Give me one good reason why you arent going MGTOW?
>Cannot be cucked or lied too.
>All the time in the world to accomplish your dreams and do anything you want too.
>Unlimited freedom.
>No drama or relationship bullshit.
>More money.
The MGTOW life style is the true red pilled way to live. Only dumb blue pilled faggots still believe in "love" anymore.
OP has a tiny dick and is gay and baby
>>73118968
because the future needs more white children
and mgtow has been co-oped by betas trying to find justification for their loneliness
>>73118968
You know when you buy something and you take it home and think it's going to be super awesome but it actually kind of sucks?
It's kind of like that, except you can't exchange your wife's son for store credit
>>73118968
because I can't clone myself yet.
>>73119226
>mgtow has been co-oped by betas trying to find justification for their loneliness
It just sounds like you dont like being by yourself because your a boring shitty person.
You dont need some whore to validate your life, anon.
>>73119574
but he needs betas on a canadian snow sculpture website to validate his life?
>>73119226
>muh white race
No thanks, not marrying or having kids. If you want to be a cuck for society though, you go ahead and do that.
"Why haven't you discarded any plans to have children in place of playing vidya and watching anime?"
inb4 b-but muh white children JIDF shills
I think I've always been one. I am schizoid and have no libido. I'm not ugly so I get approached by women but I'm just annoyed by their presence(and other people's too) and don't want to have anything to do with them.
I think it's pathetic how normally function men claim they're MGTOW, face the facts you will fall for the first woman who shows you attention. A girl makes a video about killing kikes and half of /pol/ thinks she's a goddess just because she's a girl.
>>73119764
I dont understand what your trying to say
>>73118968
What's funny about MGTOW...
I got married once.
We shared the same dreams for our future.
We shared the responsibility of working towards those dreams.
We shared the same misfortunes.
We talked about decisions like a couple of logical people, weighing the pros and cons of any life altering event (like the house we bought, the cars we bought, the children we would sire).
7 years later, she still sits by my side, we still share the same dreams for retirement, the same goals, the same paths to get there..
Honestly, I see her as a net benefit.
Someone to sound Ideas off of, who understands what it is we're trying to accomplish for eachother, and ourselves, independently...
you MGTOW faggots are nothing more than selfish adult NEETS, who will never know the pleasure of working with someone to accomplish the same goals...
that or you tend to go after the Basic bitches... you know, the yoga pants, ugg boots, blonde, north face jackets, and pumpkin spice latte skanks who think that going clubbing on a friday night is better than sitting at home watching a movie, or learning a new skill...
>>73120470
/pol/ is very blue pilled when it comes to women. Just look at all the fucking waifu shit.
This is probably one of the worst places for relationship advice too.
i would fucking love to be mgtow but i just can't give up sex. it's frustrating. every time i say ok fuck this shit i'm out i end up meeting a nice little piece of ass and them i'm like ok just one more then i'm done. it's a never ending cycle. at this point i just need to be honest with myself and admit that i'm not strong enough. either that or take like estrogen pills or anti depressants or whatever to kill my libido.
>>73121167
It's normal for men to be bluepilled when it comes to women. It's easy to say things online but normal men probably just want to be loved. I think only people like me and gay men can be truly redpilled.
Not a beta faggot.
>>73121167
What idiot comes here for relationship advice?
>>73118968
the real redpilled way to live is
>work hard as fuck through your 20s
>fuck around with hoes
>don't pay their way
>get rich
>marry a younger hot woman
>have 6 beautiful children etc etc
>>73118968
>Give me one good reason why you arent going MGTOW?
1. Im not a crybaby faggot who blames his problems on women
2. Im not some autistic neckbeard with no confidence who cant get laid anyways.
3. Im not nearly as gay as op
>>73121414
Gay men arent red pilled, its just a different culture. If you were a gay man you would be complaining about other gay men.
I just dont see why men even entertain the idea of a life long partner that actually loves them. Every relationship ive observed and had has been just total shit. Its not modern women either, this is how they have always been.
Feminism has only unleashed the true female nature. We have nothing left to stop it.
>>73121670
Hopefully not many men but ive seen a few.
>>73118968
I MGTOW while seeing 18 year olds on the side
mgtow is fucking retarded and you faggots ought to be ashamed of yourselves.
>>73121704
>get rich
Crucial flaw in your plan. Chances are that wont happen.
Nothing worth having comes easy.
Women might be a headache but its worth finding a tolerable one in the end.
Life is about compromise, suck it up you fucking baby.
>>73121936
>If you were a gay man you would be complaining about other gay men.
They do but they still fuck each other because of the different dating culture
With straight men, they let women manipulate them so easily because they're desperate for sex
>>73118968
>Give me one good reason why you arent going MGTOW?
i don't want to become a miniority in my own lands
>>73122158
>Women might be a headache but its worth finding a tolerable one in the end.
Keep telling yourself that Britcuck.
The worst mistake humanity ever made was giving those cunts rights.
>>73119226
>muh white babies
Piss off, kike. We're on to your tricks, and you're going down.
>>73121148
Ive had two girls tell me that they love me. Both were lying or just drastically exaggerating their actual feelings.
My mother and father split up literally a couple weeks after my 18th birthday. My brother is a cuck married to a fat white bitch with a nigger kid.
All of my friends have either gone through hell with relationships or just given up. One of my friends in highschool was fucking tortured by his ex gf.
Women are just not worth it. Im glad and jealous that you found your one in a million mythical unicorn wife but I doubt ill ever find a girl like that.
>>73122195
I hope you plan on having several dozen million white children then.
>>73118968
I'm MGTOW to the point where I'll never spend the rest of my life slaving away for some women or marrying one, but I do like relationships with them. I don't mind chilling with one for a few months until they outlive their use to me. I could care less if I'm cucked or lied to. I ain't emotionally invested in these hoes
>>73122672
as many as i can burger you should too
How long until the Jews infiltrate MGTOW?
>>73118968
I like having sex and I'm not a homosexual.
It's the best reason I can think of.
>>73122923
No I dont think so. Whites are just going to be a minority. I really wish it wasnt so but its just not the world we are living in.
>>73123093
Be defeatist it's like you want the world to turn to shit
>>73121148
>implying she's not out riding the cock carousel while you're at work
>>73123056
You cant control MGTOW. Its not like feminism. You will never have a MGTOW political party, nor would they ever get any power or influence.
The jews may start trying to shill MGTOW beliefs (have less kids, dont marry, etc) but MGTOW is immune to their control. Its like water.
>>73123189
Its not defeatist its just realist. If I could I would have every white country be 99.8% white with booming populations but that is out of my control.
Even if I had nine kids it wouldnt help make the US any whiter. Im competing with shit skins that breed like rabbits.
Whites have some inner desire to cuck themselves. Im crestfallen about it.
>>73121704
>get rich
Sure, good luck
>marry a younger hot woman
Obviously a golddigger
>have 6 beautiful children etc etc
She leaves you for some younger chad and you're stuck paying child support for 6 kids and don't even have a pot to piss in
because I met a girl and she's great and desu I don't care about politics anymore
:3
>>73123056
pretty sure it's a jewish movement, or at least they predicted it would happens in response to feminism.
they win all the time. retards. it's all your fault.
>>73118968
I think MGTOW is utter trash and nonsense because the majority of males who do so (as far as I've seen) don't improve themselves in the meantime to find a better life partner and have a sense of achievement before settling down with the best possible partner they could attract
>>73121148
this. death to mgtow.
>believing that men are MGTOW by choice
Because I am a bad goy that wants white children.
>What the fuck is MGTOW
>Google it
Oh, it's rebranding being a perma-virgin autist. Got it.
>OP: "Why aren't YOU buying into the hysteria of some women-hating autists and their sad little movement?"
>>73118968
I love chicks too much, man
>>73124081
If you think its a jewish movement then its genius.
If fight the jew and go against you own self interest. Modern women are so insanely dangerous that its no wonder men are dropping out in droves. Add dating sites and shit like tinder and you have a shitty single mother infested hookup culture like now.
>>73124179
>having intimate knowledge of the lives of the majority of MGTOWs
Remember kids, your hero Milo is a big backer of the MGTOW movement.
No possible ulterior motive in a weirdo gay guy telling young men to avoid women.
Nope.
None at all.
And yet /pol/ fawns over that smirking turd.
>>73122570
>he gave up after two whores tricked him
Rofl just keep at it.
>>73122805
I see this as my only emerging option. Attempting to be able to satisfy the terms of the MNT, seems impossible at this point.
>>73124179
men should do all the improving, work etc etc, meanwhile women have casual sex with others guys. seems legit
>>73124179
MGTOW are going their own way. Its not something you do to improve yourself to attract more girls.
>>73124580
>And yet /pol/ fawns over that smirking turd.
Oh christ shut the fuck up. No one here likes Milo. He a funny faggot that hates SJWs but he isnt anyones hero.
>>73124740
More than two, just two lied about loving me.
>>73124580
I think Milo is true MGTOW because he just doesn't give a fuck about anyone, but his followers are normal teen boys and can't do the same. Like me, Milo will die alone once his boys grow up. I kind of want to meet him because of that.
If you're dumb enough to fall for the MGTOW victimhood shit, you don't deserve to reproduce.
Weed yourself out of the gene pool, thanks.
>>73125163
what are surrogate mothers you idiot.
the women are the ones that aren't getting any babies. stay mad
>>73124550
>having intimate knowledge of the lives of the majority of MGTOWs
Didn't even read my post I see
>(as far as I've seen)
I've seen/read more failures than successful MGTOW so the majority as I've seen has caused me to believe that this "movement" is useless
>>73124787
>men should do all the improving, work etc etc,
Both sexes could use improvement but completely alienating yourself from the problem is not the solution
>meanwhile women have casual sex with others guys. seems legit
You know you don't have to associate with women who do this??? What's stopping you from going your own way and becoming successful in order to get a younger mate with less experience?
>>73124824
>MGTOW are going their own way.
And doing a horrible job at it, if going your own way means erasing yourself from the genepool go right ahead
>Its not something you do to improve yourself to attract more girls
Lets be honest here I'm sure a good chunk of these men would abandon this movement if they were loved emotionally and sexually
>>73118968
I am going mgtow
Although having a loving wife and family would be pretty nice
>>73125621
>what are surrogate mothers you idiot.
what is off-the-scale levels of delusion?
how many single men pay for a surrogate kid and then raise it?
cool story, bro
>the women are the ones that aren't getting any babies. stay mad
that's right, women can't have kids without autists like you.
where would a single women find a man to get her pregnant?
it's impossible!!!!
MGTOW truly are mentally deficient.
>>73125773
>loved emotionally
Women love men for what the men can provide, you deluded simp.
>>73120470
You sound like a stereotypical Finn
>>73121148
>I got married once.
I hit my knee once, now i always hit my knee, no matter where i stand. Even in the middle of the sea, i hit my knee on passing sharks at 2 meters depth.
>>73121167
I'd say /pol/ is half and half. You should go and see on the other boards how blue pilled they are.
>>73126387
Normal Finns do want love and sex, and people fuck a lot, but are just shy
I find any kind of intimacy(emotional and physical) uncomfortable
>>73126266
>Women love men for what the men can provide, you deluded simp
Where'd you read that on the internet, I know this is used a lot but it has never been false... go outside and be social you unacknowledged plebeian, theirs different type of women out there and you could always choose which ones you associate with or not
Sorry but I'm going to include a smug anime girl in this post to signify how I feel overall about this conversation we're having, I know it's looked down upon but for your specific post I could not resist
>>73125773
>And doing a horrible job at it, if going your own way means erasing yourself from the genepool go right ahead
MGTOW are doing a great job of it. The point is not dealing with women because they are unreliable and vampiric. Not reproducing is a by product of not dealing with women unless you want surrogacy.
>Lets be honest here I'm sure a good chunk of these men would abandon this movement if they were loved emotionally and sexually
They arent doing this just because they are a bunch of faggots that decided one day to stay lonely and be mad at women. Its a culmination of life events that makes someone go MGTOW.
If they had a girl that actually, genuinely loved them emotionally and physically then no man would be MGTOW. The problem is getting a woman that actually loves you.
MGTOW dont hate relatinships, they just see the ideal relationship as impossible or close to impossible.
>>73126647
Some have went full tumblr.
>>73122312
>a fictional play from over 2k years ago is any kind of evidence of anything
Are you being serious right now?
MGTOW here
feels good man
>>73126878
I believe those are shills. Just like at this moment we have an invasion of Shillaries, same way we have many kinds of shills.
>>73118968
Why are all MGTOW types super snarky?
>>73127199
helps with the crippling depression of ignoring your instincts
>>73127053
linking someone elses finances is probably the most pathetic thing iv ever seen on /pol/
>>73118968
BECAUSE... while one hand pushes MGTOW to white men as some form of
>Freedom from the vaginal oppression" leading to money and happiness"
The other hand is telling white women:
>these white men are low-test small dick cucks who won't go out with you... go fuck this HOT SEXY RAPPER INSTEAD! As you see on TV and in your favorite social behavior-cue magazines.. it'll make you POPULAR and ENVIED!!
and then no white kids are born.
But I'm sure you are utterly brilliant for not falling for the "vaginal jew" and getting a vasectomy so you can bang filthy whores raw and then die even SOONER!
You'll really show them with your ace lifestyle choices!
Go get em kitten...err, 'TIGER!"
>>73127051
>th-those ancients knew nothing!!
Keep telling yourself that.
>>73127051
>Human nauture has somehow changed radically and the collective thousands of years of Human wisdom and knowledge no longer have any bearing on us anymore
ok pal
>>73127292
>imblying
>>73127051
>leaf
>logic
I should know better than to expect both...
>>73118968
because im not a bitch who lets women control me
nor am i afraid of them
>>73127967
Oh you should be. You should be
>>73121414
>think only people like me and gay men can be truly redpilled
You HAVE TO think that... otherwise it would be the equivalent of taking an honest personal inventory of yourself and admitting you are a defect... damaged goods.
Which, unfortunately for you... is the truth.
But it's not the end of the world. Just stop trying to pretend you are somehow "better than' those who, objectively are more functional than you.
I'm sure you have areas where you exceed far above and beyond the "normie" masses.
But cut the bullshit my mongolian rape-baby friend.
>>73127577
>>73127392
>>73127385
The ancients literally thought there were a pantheon of gods who controlled everything from the weather to famine and floods. Like are you being serious right now? They know almost NOTHING
>>73126878
>MGTOW are doing a great job of it
Until laws are passed and progress is made they've so far done a mediocre job
>The point is not dealing with women because they are unreliable and vampiric
This can be said about any human being, men have their flaws too
>Not reproducing is a by product of not dealing with women unless you want surrogacy
Surrogacy is very expensive unless you entrust some poo in loo to do it for a few thousand overseas then I guess that is a sign of being wealthy and successful
>They arent doing this just because they are a bunch of faggots that decided one day to stay lonely and be mad at women. Its a culmination of life events that makes someone go MGTOW
I understand what you're saying however the majority (as far as I've seen) have not been successful and aren't using this alone time from the opposite sex wisely as MGTOW implies
>If they had a girl that actually, genuinely loved them emotionally and physically then no man would be MGTOW
Understandable and I agree with this
>The problem is getting a woman that actually loves you
You can choose who you fall in love with and who you get into a relationship if they're willing, if these "undesirables" are all that they can attract then that really says something about themselves
>MGTOW dont hate relatinships, they just see the ideal relationship as impossible or close to impossible
I wish relationships worked out like in my Japanese animus, real life sucks m8 but reality is what it is... shitty
>you will never have a short-haired tomboy gf that has a hard time expressing her emotions and doesn't act too crazy
it hurts... pic related
>>73128101
I'm not better. I just lack something that makes me weak to them.
But I also lack the urge to be with people, so I will die alone, most likely young.
It's not good thing to be redpilled. It makes your life dull and miserable.
>>73126878
surregate is the best thing you can do.
sure cheaps jobs means that you can have only 1 son but it will enough when you are about to die. you also can give him a proper education and eventually all things are going back to normal. the bad part is that you are not going to enjoy anything, but then again, since when is your fault ?
>>73127326
sure..... ahhh... , no they go first to those guys and ignore nice guys. have you been living under a rock ?
Because I found a woman that doesn't require me to give her any resources for our relationship to work perfectly and understands the problems with modern women.
>>73126857
>anime girl laughing gif
I wonder what the neckbeard behind this post looks like.
>>73128162
>implying that today we still don't think there's an old dude with a beard and possibly a hidden pitchfork behind his back sitting on a chair in the clouds ruling over the world with sheep crying "allahu akbar" or "praise the lord" or "deus vult" all the time.
human nature didn't change. we're still using their ideals, philosophies, architecture and stuff.
if anything, we're regressing these days, as evidenced by us actually allowing the dystopian shit from that play to happen on a global scale.
>>73121292
Estrogen is the true redpill, anon. Go for it.
>>73130156
I'll admit I'm not the most attractive guy out there but we don't have to resort to name-calling
Also if you wanted more smug anime girls all you had to do was ask, try being less tsun more dere
lel. Just find a women that does what she is told.
>>73130499
Think about this for a second. You're probably locked-up in some tiny, cramped room hunched over a computer posting smug anime girls. What is your life, mate?
>>73119861
/fit/ here informing you that I am mgtow who frequents anime and works out every day. I would definitely beat you in a fight.
>>73127499
pay off your debt while you still can, goyim. soon all your money will lose its value and you'll be stuck as someone's indentured slave forever, in a perpetual interest rate system where you'll never be able to work it off.
>>73128369
I didn't choose to fall in love with my ex. I just did. Love isn't a choice. I'm still hurt over what she did and I wish I could stop being effected by it.
Women lie. They change their minds about you. They fall out of love. It doesn't matter how much effort you put into them.
Love is a battle men must constantly fight to not lose. You don't get breaks in relationships and if your use expires or they find someone better it's a big chance they will stop loving you. I've seen it and have had it happen to me.
Even if the right, perfect girl exist, where is she? How do I find her? Relationships are to hard and uncertain. That's why I'm a MGTOW, because you just can't win.
>>73118968
>>73119226
What if you're not white?
>tfw black MGTOW
>>73124081
I know all of them
Barbarossa is a spic Puerto Rican
Thinking Ape is a slav
Turd Flinging Monkey is a white guy
Sandman is a slav
Because relationships and family is a cornerstone of western civilization.
It's not my fault you're a beta faggot.
Yes, most women are garbage, but there are some good ones. The thing is you have to be a Chad++ (educated, fit, well dressed, well rounded) to get them because of the competition for them.
So go start being a Chad++
>>73131577
Sandman is retarded but the rest are pretty good.
MGTOW is just another form of subversive hedonism/instant gratification that will destroy the west. We NEED strong families now more than ever.
Fuck off with your anti-white shilling you stupid faggot.
>>73131830
>Black MGTOW
>Have a son
>Full custody
>Crazy (white) GF tried to kill me and him
>Got restraining order
>Now happy
Yeah, fuck off. Your box doesn't fit everybody. But one thing that is true across the fucking board is that women are soulless scum. I haven't met a woman yet that hasn't tried to screw me over in some way or has acted in any way selfless. They don't know the meaning of basic emotions like compassion or even general amicability. It's all narcissism and egoism with them.
>>73118968
Remember pol. It isn't MGTOW unless you have a choice to go back. Otherwise it's just called being a faggot.
>>73131007
I'm going to be honest here on this anonymous America rip-off of a popular Japanese website now owned by a Japanese man, my life could be better and I'm trying and fully committed to improving myself... I workout and read more often than I have in the past... I just like having discussions which you normally can't have, this website isn't my life and I hope you can say the same
I'll give you another smug anime post, that must be why you're replying to me complaining about it instead of trying to hold a real conversation right?
>>73131344
I see you have a reason why you're MGTOW, I can't say that others have gone what you have in this thread or in general of the whole movement but I understand why you have chosen this option and am sorry if I may have brought up any painful experiences through this subject
my condolences to you and I hope you find that perfect someone who was made just for you and hope they feel that same way too
>>73131007
>>73119574
>that projection
Wew lad
>>73131089
while I still can? lol, it's simple people like yourself that are afraid of debt that will scrape by forever. I can pay it off tomorrow, but I choose not to because of the rate.
>>73118968
Don't fall for OP nu maleness. Propagate the white seed
>>73118968
I'm not an americuck with a 53% chance of divorce
>>73132058
>mixed race kid with a single parent
yes very mold breaking indeed
fuck the frost, pay the cost
Why did MGTOW become much bigger and more influential than PuA?
One promises regular sex and improved relations with women overall; the other promises celibacy.
>>73132839
when i say while you can i mean while american currency still matters. it won't within a few years at most, and you'll be left with crippling debt and lots of paper that's useless even as toilet paper.
i see you have property. that will be confiscated to cover some of your debt.
you'll keep saying to yourself "i can pay it off tomorrow!" until you wake up tomorrow and the dollar has collapsed and your investments vanished overnight.
in these unstable economic times (hell, in any times) only retards have unpaid debt that can be used to control them if need arises.
>>73132974
Aha! Never heard that one before. But that aside, you think black girls are any better? How the fuck do you think I came to be? I was adopted for a reason.
>>73133192
Because MGTOW tends to be a realization that women are ridiculous and the game isn't worth it. You realize the game isn't worth it and the rules are rigged and you just shrug.
The PuA is a movement of false idols. PuA's still fall for the status quo of lining up like lap dogs to get a little bit of attention from women who know you're begging for scraps.
So in a way, PuA's are blue pilled as they propagate carrying on indulging women.
I can see why so many guys fall for it though, the idea of achievement and hitting targets etc. But its an extroverts game. For introverts having to get to know so many people would just be completely undesirable.
