Is this what you want, /pol/?
And increase by 20
>>73057475
Yeah, because government spending is considered, perversely enough, part of the GDP.
>Deport 12 million people.
>Population drops 4%.
>GDP drops 2%.
>Net difference of 100%.
>GDP per capita grows, indicating an improvement of well being for the people.
How is this bad exactly?
>>73057475
hiding buzzfeed from your screenshot doesn't make it not buzzfeed
>>73057701
It's not BuzzFeed, it's Luciana Lopez of Reuters.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-deportations-idUSKCN0XW0TP
>by Luciana Lopez
>>73057892
>Mexican intellectuals
>>73057475
Given that there are at least 12 million illegal immigrants in the USA, a nation of 330 million people. That would be a 3.6% reduction in population as well. In other words, the GDP will fall, but GDP per capita would rise.
Population and GDP is correlated.
Seems like a good trade for a more stable society: less narco fuckers, less disloyal citizens, and less unqualified leeches.
>>73057475
>cut down on government spending on needless projects
>gdp falls
>crack down on child prostitution black market
>gdp falls
...see where i'm going with this OP?
>luciana lopez
>>73057475
>Mexican Intellectuals
>>73057475
But how does it effect GDP PER CAPITA
>>73057892
MS13, he's obviously Salvadoran pinche gringo
Reminder that 12 million is a bullshit statistic and the illegal population is likely much higher
>>73057672
this
>>73057475
Now quantify that in terms of tangible real-world dollars instead of leftist think-tank SPOOPY SCARY guesstimations. Because ending illegal immigration and deporting illegals would save the US government $150 billion PER YEAR.
Trump's plan is the single greatest cost-cutting measure in US history.
>>73057475
>population goes down
>GDP drops 2%
>we no longer have to spend hundreds of billions on illegal immigration problems
>drugs stop pouring in so people naturally become healthier and less people start drugs
>prison populations drop rapidly
>jobs for lower class working people that have been taken by illegals and shipped overseas
>blacks are put back to work so instead of it being 50% unemployment it's 10%, also lowering the prison population
>wages start to naturally rise so there's little inflation and higher life quality for everyone since there aren't people who will work for pennies
>GDP per capita skyrockets
>GDP skyrockets because we have our manufacturing back and better trade deals
>Not to mention the trillions of dollars foreign companies have overseas because they can't bring them back
>foreign investment into our stocks, businesses and manufacturing skyrockets
>>73058451
Positively. 4% leave, GDP drops 2%, difference of 2% per head, GDP per capita gets an additional boost of 2% outright.
>>73057672
GDP has to be the shittiest meme-value that is currently used in the media, now that BMI is not talked about as frequently anymore.
Everyone and their mom tries to draw conclusion from it which simply cannot be extracted from a single value with absolutely no context and further information.
>>73057475
>could slice 2 percent off U.S. GDP
And? The mexicans transfer their money back to mexico, our societal structure is askew due to a source of underpaid labor taking jobs in every sector.
So we'd rid ourselves of those who depress wages, send money out of the nation, dont pay taxes and are in turn enormous tax burdens themselves. Gee sounds awful.
>>73058639
Damn straight.
>>73057672
fucking racist, kill yourself
>>73057475
I care about my countrymen and culture, not my score on the world leader boards.
People should use the economy, the economy shouldn't be using people.
>>73058740
It's fucking stupid, yeah. I guess Nigeria's a better place to live than Switzerland, because their GDP's 1.1 trillion while Switzerland's is less than 500 billion. Nigeria's GDP is growing faster too, so they must be more prosperous!
He can have my GBP, match me bois.
#Tendies4Trump
>Luciana Lopez
>Lucian
Never read an article written by a female. It's 99.99% of the times pure shit
Remember it, and act this way
>>73057475
Wow lose a whole 2 percent to get your country back.
>>73058979
Luciana*
Those fucking weird names..
>>73057475
So you're telling me that 3.6% of the population is responsible for 2% of GDP?
Sounds to me like we're losing a lot of dead weight.
>the wealth of the elite is more important than the welfare of the nation
>we should just abandon laws for muh gdp
get the fuck out
>>73057475
Yep, fuck the GDP. America first, illegals get the fuck out and come back in legally.
>>73057475
>2 percent
Low energy.
>>73057475
Yes. I want them deported. Yes. I want them deported. Yes. I want them deported. Yes. I want them deported. Yes. I want them deported. Yes. I want them deported. Yes. I want them deported. Yes. I want them deported. Yes. I want them deported. Yes. I want them deported. Yes. I want them deported. Yes. I want them deported. Yes. I want them deported. Yes. I want them deported. Yes. I want them deported. Yes. I want them deported. Yes. I want them deported. Yes. I want them deported.
>>73058955
I'm always amazed how retarded people are when it comes to handling data. Even the ones that should know better.
Fellow student of mine went to Denmark as Postdoc because
>Wow, I get so much more money here!
He got 10% more but the costs of living are like 25% higher.
>>73057475
yes fuck yo slavery gdp
>>73059272
>He got 10% more but the costs of living are like 25% higher.
how stupid did he felt when he realized he got less in the end?
>>73057475
>GDP goes down
>still have more money and more whites than before
This would be a compelling article if I was a multinational CEO that relied on betraying the US to earn my paycheck. As a normal guy, a 2% contraction doesn't mean shit, and can easily be overcome.
Artificially increasing your GDP causes ridiculously large amounts of debt. Not worth it. Also, Earth cannot support more than 10 billion people. There is not much room for growth left, we have reached our potential. Capitalists should deal with it.
>>73057475
Yes. An economy shouldn't be based on illegal activities unless you're a failed third world state.
>>73059272
Its hard to quantify the cost of living without actually experiencing it for a few months
>>73057475
Yes
>>73057475
GDP means shit, GDP/Capita is the real shit son.
>>73059010
pretty normal desu
weird name are tyrone and kashya
>>73059272
It's just a polite way to say that Denmark is much better than Germoney, even if more expensive.
>>73057656
thread should have ended here
>>73057475
>Trump's deportation plan could slice 2 percent off U.S. GDP
/pol/ is anti-growth and anti-capitalism
Fuck you guys.
>>73057475
What a load of horseshit.
What a load of horseshit you fucks spew.
I saw an article recently (on FB of course) arguing that immigrants to EU had increased GDP and were therefore creating economic growth. The entire argument to support this was based on the increased government spending they trigger.
If we spend another trillion of future generations' money providing housing, food stamps, and Obamacare to foreigners who have no right to be here; we have increased GDP by 1 trillion yay! Oh don't forget the multiplier effect it's going to be even more!
All kinds of magic things are possible when you spend money and refuse to think about the day of reckoning when it is paid back (impossible at this point) or when your currency is dumped and economy wrecked.
Few things are as dangerous as a cursory familiarity with economic principals.
Same thing on trade: "Oh, Trump is too stupid to understand free trade is good for any economy!" Bullshit we are not engaged in "free trade" with China and no economic model supports 365 billion dollar trade deficit. They have been waging economic war against us for decades and Trump is the only one with the balls to call them on it and force a change.
Honestly, coming to Pol and arguing against a border is like.... banging your head against a wall. And that wall just got 2' taller.
If kicking out every spic cut our GDP by 98%, I would still be heavily in favor
>>73058054
>mexican intellectuals
That 2% is mexican slave labor.
>>73057475
"study"
I can find a marxist study that says communism works. What the fuck kind of proof is that. Economics is a pseudoscience, or else it'd work.
>>73057475
yeah i dont give a shit
OUT OUT OUT
>>73059521
You can look it up fairly easily online. There are even websites that let you enter your rough region so you don't just get a country average.
>>73059626
Shitting on Germany is pretty much a state mandated past time, no one would need an excuse to avoid harsh words. He wa sjust a moron.
>>73059632
Per-capita GDP would rise by 1.6%
That's easy money.
>>73059689
Good post man. I especially liked the bit about retards with a 5th grade understanding of economics being dangerous.
>>73057656
>>73057672
Typical media tricks, presenting things in a slanted manner in order to influence people's thinking on the subject.
This attack on our thoughts after we've been weakened through shitty public education and garbage like common core.
This is what brainwashing looks like, lads. No black and white spirals here.
>>73059721
daily reminder that this is the
Relevance per country map
bigger country = more relevant
>>73057672
T-THAT'S RACIST!
>>73059778
Thays aggregate, it doesnt factor in discounts deals or other factors.
>>73057475
This anon understands >>73057672
Is money more important than following the law or abiding by your morals? Don't be like our leafcuck PM continuing to sell arms to Saudi Arabia citing its a matter of principle when you support LGBT rights and the country you're selling to doesn't and kills those people.
>>73057475
oh right because all the money illegals make are kept here and not sent to mexico tax free.
>>73060083
>russia
>absent
wut
this map is bollocks
>>73057475
>implying jobs won't be re-filled by American workers
Democrats literally defending the need for slavery. Damn, if we haven't heard that one once before I'd be shocked.
>>73057475
It will only come off the top. Then labor will be valued higher, people will work and get more money, people will spend more money, the economy will increase.
Its a fucking circle but these pieces of shit always seem to see labor getting fucked as good and the fucks on top not getting everything they want as bad.
>>73057475
>could
>>73057475
god forbid Trump hurts the economic power by removing illegal labor, lowering currency value and increasing competitiveness.
>>73058598
>>Not to mention the trillions of dollars foreign companies have overseas because they can't bring them back
This is bullshit. They are keeping it overseas because its profit from tax dodge bullshit and they would have to actually pay taxes if it came back.
We had a forgiveness period before and the only thing it did was let a bunch of leeches dodge the taxes you and I pay and make them keep it over seas longer next time hoping for a another window.
If we do it a second time well never be able to keep them honest.
Anytime someone tells you about all the overseas profits that wont come back because of taxes you tell them to go fuck themselves.
Im tired of all the less tax energy and momentum going mostly to the people on top. They are wellfare queens as big as niggers.
>>73057475
Yes I want my country to stop using second-class not-even-citizens as slave labor.
>>73057672
but anon that's raycist!
>>73061332
This has been my go to argument for over a decade now, when it comes to immigration.
It's great because you immediately seize the moral high ground from self-righteous leftist whores.
It's ALL OVER guys! TRUMP is the NOMINEE!
Now it's time to "Start me up" against war criminal Hillary Rodham Clinton. Watch!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oBze2CPbMPU
..,
There are more important things than the GDP. Like actually having a nation, borders, a culture, tradition. 2% is a perfectly acceptable drop.
>>73061728
Now that the mainstream media's spell seems to be wearing off, I think many people will naturally come to this conclusion instead of being suckered in by their fear-mongering.
>>73057475
>trading 2% of GDP for about 50% of crime
Sounds great. When do you start?
>>73057475
>welfare for illegals
>"GDP"
>>73062129
We are deporting the latinos not the blacks. Its probably 25%. Well maybe it would get jobs back for blacks so maybe you are right.
>>73057475
And how much of that ends up being eaten up in remittances anyway?
>>73057475
You gotta spend money to make money
>>73062229
There are a hell of a lot more latinos than blacks. They commit less crime per capita, but a lot more in terms of raw numbers.
>>73057475
Who even cares about GDP? It says very little about personal wealth and distribution.
>>73062229
>Well maybe it would get jobs back for blacks so maybe you are right.
Or you just continue to abort them out of existence.
>>73057875
>Lopez
Yeah surely no bias or conflict of interest here :^)
>>73062366
>Who even cares about GDP?
Way too many people sadly. The ones profiting from all this shit made a genius move when they tricked people into believing that GDP is a decent measurement for the quality of living in a country - that way they can mask their own exploits of the system as something good for the average guy.
>>73061283
>Im tired of all the less tax energy and momentum going mostly to the people on top.
This is partially because Obama's IRS is corrupt from top to bottom, since the start of his Presidency.
>>73058929
Agreed. The way it is, Americans aren't benefiting from illegals when we don't have jobs and our dollar turns shittier.
>>73057475
YES. I want 15% off GDP if it means taking every illegal out of the country and dumping them back in mexico and building a wall so tall and deep they can't go under around it or over it. On top of that I say we remove troops from South Korea and japan and put them on the southern us border with the orders of shoot to kill anyone who approaches the border.
/pol/ has nothing to lose
no one in here has girlfriends or money that's not coming from parents, government welfare
>>73057672
THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!1!!1!
>>73060083
>South America
>Africa
kek
>>73057656
It's not really perverse to have it. Government production is still production. Whether it's efficient or not is a whole nother matter.
>>73057475
Yes. It's exactly what I want
>>73057475
lmao . the fake article is written by luciana lopez
why not just let nigs publish a study about the positive affects of eating fried chicken
>>73057892
As an American with Mehhican heritage, this offends me, for that sub-human is Salvadorian. Even the wetbacks dont like em.
>>73063259
I'm getting married next month and have a full time, professional job.
>>73057475
Beats Hillary's plan to export young soldiers and import dead bodies.
> the operative word in that sentence is COULD.
As in, his plan also could fix the budget.
>>73058069
Plus that doesn't even factor in the savings on bullshit welfare and free medical care these leeches often recieve or the increases in prison and law enforcement funding that they neccessitate. Oh and let's not forget the tens of billions they send to family in Mexico taking it out of the US economy.
>>73057875
>Luciana Lopez
Certainly Unbiased.
>>73058639
>4% leave
Have you been anywhere other than a farm in Iowa? Census statistics come nowhere near the real number/percentage of illegals living here.
I bet you we get an 8% or higher turnaround on GDP with deportations alone. The question is can we can get the nogs and white trash to do the work once hose-a and hose-b leave the country involuntarily.
>>73058276
Gdp doesn't account for black market activity
>abolishing slavery will slash our GDP! Lincoln is a madman!
>>73058528
Likely true but it'll take awhile to get most of them deported. Self deportation and known illegal will be millions that go quickly but the holdouts will take awhile. The net result is twelve million isn't a bad estimate for how many will be gone during his first term.
YES BUT WHAT ABOUT GDP PER CAPITA
TOTAL GDP IS AN IRRELEVANT FIGURE
Fuck I hate leftists. There will be 100k obnoxious liberals that read this, shake their head and think "Wow, those right-wingers sure are crazy!".
Day of the rope when
