Should we ban organized religion?
Most religions are different
There can only be one truth about the creation of our world
Therefore, most religions are fake
>>73053454
>Most religions are different
All are anti-science, all are made up, all are wrong.
yes. Christians need to know they are dying out but muslims are growing. christcucks need to take one for the team so islam can be banned.
>>73053388
Hello fascist.
>>73053543
thats a compliment here Mr Reddit.
>>73053543
>Hello fascist.
Do you know what board you are on?
it literally doesn't matter
kill children
fuck animals
eat the earth
people will make excuses for whatever they want to do
Ban Yanks.
>>73053639
>people will make excuses for whatever they want to do
People would do less retarded shit if religion was banned thou. I would rather people die over resources and shit that actually matters than bullshit like ISIS.
>>73053388
No
>>73053488
Source?
>>73053687
>he fell fo the ISIS meme
>atheshit
That's 2 of 2 reddit. Fuck off
>>73053647
that would help alot though. no more interventionism by us around the world but i think jews would then just use Russia or you guys for their Neocon wars.
>>73053488
well professor, I suppose you have some research to prove your hypothesis. you know, that can be peer reviewed.
>>73053796
>Source?
Big bang, evolution, science in general.
>atheshit
/pol/ is atheist. You need to get out mudshit. I see your flag I know you are a mudslime.
>>73053902
>well professor, I suppose you have some research to prove your hypothesis. you know, that can be peer reviewed.
Every religion on earth has been created by humans. How can one religion be right, and every other religion be wrong? And I'm talking about prehistoric religions as well.
>>73053908
>science in general
You have a long road ahead of you brother
>>73053388
All I know is Britain, China, and Russia would be the first.
>>73053908
And what does that prove about anything you said?
you wouldn't be able to control people without religion
there's literally only a few people in this world that have control over 7 billion people
let that sink in for a minute
I pray for the day christcucks will finally fuck off from /pol/
How did they even manage to infiltrate this fucking place?
>>73053388
No. If anything this election shows that evangelicals are turning against this whole theocracy deal. Indiana was supposed to be Cruz's and he damn lost it. So people don't really think America is a Christian nation in the sense that it belongs to them, but that its principles promote the liberty that allow it to flourish.
Religion is almost exclusively organized, if not you're just talking about faith or creed, and religion is more than that. If organized religion was banned, the free assembly of people for any reason would be under attack and we would be under the thumb of the government.
Furthermore, it would erode our sense of community in the religions that have molded dominant culture in the US and allow globalists to attack as further. For better or worse or whether you believe in Christianity for example, unraveling it would have dire consequences for this country.
>>73053908
>big bang
Oh, a theory that was formulated by a catholic priest?
>>73054058
>And what does that prove about anything you said?
Because no where in your pedo loving rage head 7th century Muhammadan religion does it say anything about the big bang, evolution, or modern science. If Islam is the true religion, why does it say semen comes out of our backsides?
>>73053908
>/pol/ is atheist
You meant Christian board no? Or are you still in your edgy parent hating stage?
>>73053981
see again making broad half truth statements. your claiming that a subscriber to a faith thinks their faith is absolute. someone who is religious can subscribe to science and the big bang etc.
>>73053388
Should we put to death leech cuckolds like OP who think themselves necessary and entitled to society when really they are as expendable as vermin.
>>73053908
Quality argument there fâm
>>73054165
B-but le science man told me religion and science cannot coexist!!!1
>>73054165
>Oh, a theory that was formulated by a catholic priest?
Sorry but the bible says the earth was created in 6 days, 6,000 years ago.
A priest discovering the big bang doesn't mean Catholicism is right. If anything it shows that religion is further and further abounding all of it's core beliefs for modern science.
>>73054179
>Because no where in your pedo loving rage head 7th century Muhammadan religion does it say anything about the big bang, evolution, or modern science
But it does.
>If Islam is the true religion
You need to stop being underage reddipham
>>73053388
> United States
> banning anything
Commie
>>73053981
>Every religion on earth has been created by humans
Source?
>>73053388
Absolutely not. The biggest contribution that organized religions have brought was the abolishment of superstitions and cults. Those were disorganized, chaotic and morally unpretictable. They divided the people and often drove them to start violent acts based on their teachings for literally no reason.
Dumb people will always need this shit, so it was better to take control of this phenomena and propagate religions that benefitted the ruling class and society in general the most. Most historians agree that it was a step forward in both biological and societal human evolution
If organized religions were abolished, these nuts would start worshiping horoscope, new age horeshit and pray to hundreds of different deities. The recent popularity drop of christianity in the west is proof of how these smaller religions can take the place of the big ones.
People like that really do need to be taken care of like cattle and be forced into religions. Even the fucking insane islam is doing a good job at this. Religion is a necessary evil.
>>73054190
Christianity is a foreign religion not native to Europe. /pol/ is pro nativist and anti foreigner. Before Muslims the Christians were the brown crazy people who fucked shit up in Europe and the european pagans paid the price for allowing them free reign.
>>73054299
>You need to stop being underage reddipham
And you need to go durka durka in Syria so you can get your 72 virgins. Why haven't you strapped on a bomb yet Muhammad?
>>73053388
>ban organized religion in the country created by people wanting to escape religious persecution
10/10 plan
>>73054274
well if you want to go off what the bible says. consider the following, god's time is different than what humans are subject to because he is not of this earth
>>73054456
>taking the bait
>>73054443
>ban organized religion in the country created by people wanting to escape religious persecution
You do know the first thing Puritans did when they came here was religious persecution right?
>>73053388
There's really nothing you can do to stop this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huFra1mnIVE
The thing about Christianity, and strangely Judaism for that matter, the King is literally a rock star.
>>73054510
The idea was still to escape it. Banning it all is just retarded.
>>73054443
You know what Islam does right away after gaining majority?
>>73054419
Christianity has been on my isles since the 5th century, it's more native than most Irish people.
Should we ban disorganized nihilism?
retards need religion to have purpose in life. Take that away and they'll find something more dangerous to fill the void like communism or personality cults
>>73054508
got nothing better to do. i never get involved in these type of conversations as I'm non religious. I really would like a little more insight on "militant" atheist.
>>73053388
I'd rather remove their tax-exempt status across the board. Milk that cow for a few tens of billions for a while.
Eventually consider banning if they don't shape the fuck up.
Also, jail sentences for child molestation, corruption, involvement in politics and election tampering. Plus full liability for all deaths and damages for various faith-based medicine and other similar brainwashing.
Trying to ban them makes them into martyrs. That's exactly what they want.
Much better to discredit with facts and bring everything under the jurisdiction of all secular law, removing all special exemptions.
It's much, much harder to play martyr if your so-called "martyrdom" is merely being treated on a level playing field with every other citizen ad business.
>>73053388
do you think theres no life after death?
so how can you know your dead?
>>73054746
>what is Egypt
>what is Syria
>what is Lebanon
No because I don't want the self indulgent fuckheads that are athiests in total control of society. All the neckbeards and mouth breathing degenerates should stay where they belong and away from the majority
>>73054510
They cried out for the freedom to persecute others in their own special way, though.
>>73054777
you literally can't
not that it would matter
>>73054876
>I'd rather remove their tax-exempt status across the board. Milk that cow for a few tens of billions for a while.
This, I don't understand why they get any special treatment in the form of not having to pay taxes. Plus we can stick it to those Scientology faggots as well. The whole religion is practically ran by wealthy celebrities, we'll get millions from them.
Only jews and muslisms
>>73054419
>Christianity is a foreign religion not native to Europe
>the Christians were the brown crazy people who fucked shit up in Europe
>/pol/ is pro nativist and anti foreigner
How can you think removing Christianity from Western Civilization is a nativist now? It's a globalist goal.
>majority of people decide on their religious faith before they are even 14 years old
>Older ages generally lean towards atheism or never get involved with religion
This is really all the evidence a person should need to realize that religion is nothing but fairy tales.
>>73055071
well it's supposed to keep religion out of politics. lol
>>73054777
The outspoken atheists in the US aren't nihilists. Most of them are worthless ex-theists that would rather make up their own rules because they failed at whatever religion they left.
>>73053388
I'd rather ban Atheism. Atheism encourages degeneracy and is a Juden construct. Even the ancients believe in some kind of organized and older forms of religion like animism, ancestor worship, and so on.
A person who doesn't believe in anything is not a person at all. It's an automaton with no sense of purpose--just live and wait for death. And on your way to oblivion, you become degenerate that affects everyone else.
I'd rather purge your kind to save the rest from degeneracy.
>>73055108
True, all atheists are playing right into the hands of the Jew.
Do we know what caused the big bang?
>>73055181
you act like fairy tales aren't filled with morales and don't provoke thought. when I was 10 my aunt and uncle drove me to niagra falls over the summer and my sega game gear batteries died so I picked up the bible and read the story of ... fuck me can't tell you the actual name but satan wagered to god that he could get this man to loose faith and his family died his livestock he got boils and shit. I learned a very important lesson on perspective. How could god be "good" if he allows satan dominion over earth blah blah blah
>>73053388
29 year old just found religion again. I can't wait until the dollar collapses. You will be purged.
Please proove to me God isn't real. I don't want to waste my life dedicated to him if he doesn't exist so yeah.
Please provide definite proof that God doesn't exist
>>73054893
Dictatorships designed by the intellectual elite of their countries to supress popular desire for Islamic fundamentalism/Sharia? Only like that can you control these fanatical morons.
>>73055225
id say 9/10 are failed marxists, or followers of the holy pzmyers and A+
>>73054274
I don't give a shit about catholicism, my point is that fedora fucks like you who spent hours sitting his fatass in front of his computer ridiculing people who believe in God claiming to be some kind of enlighthened and logical but don't contribute shit to science meanwhile theists(that priest for example) actually contribute to science.
>>73055753
Can't. It's like proving unicorns don't exist.
>>73056103
How can you know anything to be true?
>>73053388
Thanks for that question Chairman Mao.
The answer is no and nor can you.
Have a nice day.
>>73053388
Yes.
>>73053488
This atheist = clever meme has to end. From /pol/, i have learned that the smartest people here are mostly christians and right wings. Your words there are shallow and very common.
>>73053488
>>73053488
>>73053388
>Seven gifts of the Holy Spirit:
In the spanish version "understandment" is called "science"
Stop being a dickhead USA
>>73053388
>>73053525
Banned in where ?
>>73054274
>core beliefs
the creation myths aren't "core" to christianity.
>>73054223
Nah, just you...
>>73056560
The bible is not a science book
>>73053388
You couldn't
>>73053388
Begin with marxism, the dominant religion in the west.
>>73056631
Neither your mom, but she's easy as reading one
>>73053388
Germanic Paganism is the true religion.
>>73056757
So then she is not that easy then, have you ever read a science book? i can tell by your joke that the Argentinian education program is awful
The breakdown of Christianity in Europe has directly caused the current problems they have now
Whatever qualms you have with religions, there will always be useful religious idiots to use against even worse barbarians
>>73053388
No, just have secular states, after then nobody will give a fuck about what you believe.
Except muslims, they need to die
:^ )
>>73056830
Brother you are miss informed
>>73054753
he's right though, look at the stained-glass windows in a church - even if you turn everyone into white europeans they're still wearing robes and wandering around deserts.
it must have some sort of adverse effect to have your attention always drawn out of your own landscape all the way across the world to a land you have no experience of.
>>73053388
I'm an American first, and an atheist second.
As an American citizen, it is my duty to protect the constitution from all threats, foreign and domestic.
The constitution has already established a secular approach, and the only way your religion can fall outside of protection under the constitution is if it impedes you from fulfilling your agreement to protect it as a citizen.
Warning: refusal to acknowledge your freedom can be hazardous to your health.
>>73056977 (cont.)
By the way, since Islam forbids its followers to adhere to laws that aren't in strict accordance with Islamic Law, Islam is one of those religions that prevents you from fulfilling your agreement as an American citizen, so "Muslim-American" is inherently self-contradictory, and the Constitution cannot be called upon to protect your religious freedom either.
>>73056874
Maybe real SCIENCE is not for you. Maybe you should try watching Dr. House or watch tweets of depressed people to quote them and "disprove" God
No. Religion is ineradicable.
All we can do is properly educate people and allow them to make their own decisions.
>>73057156
I believe in God, you are talking to the wrong person.
>>73053908
>/pol/
>an atheist board
Oh anon...
>>73054796
or substance abuse, casual sex, pornography, internet addiction, video-game addiction etc.
OY VEY RELIJUN IS SO DUMB YOU GUYS REMEMBER TO CONSUME YOUR FOOD PRODUCTS AND PLAY LOTS OF VIDEO GAMES. PORN TOO, CONSUME IT EVERY DAY!
....
FUCK there goes my best line
"kike on a stick" lol that is TOO funny haha
>$.50 has been deposited into your account.
>>73055181
children have to learn the rules of grammar at a certain age or they're unable to learn to speak at all - that something takes a stronger root when you're young isn't a sign that it shouldn't be there.
>>73057247
sorry, my bad
>>73057123
That's some impressive mental gymnastics to justify taking away people's constitutional rights.
>>73057515
Its okay, i forgive
The Bible is so stupid you goys, everybody knows Science™ is the REAL way to go.
>>73053584
A board that has been hijacked by conservative Christians?
>>73056357
Stupid things sound smart to stupid people
>>73053388
Good luck banning Memetheism
>>73053388
It's time to lift the lid on these hypocrites, liars and deviates. Ted Cruze was a classic example of a bible thumper that would do anything god willed, including fraud, adultery and probably murder.
You can't ban religion but it should be held to an extremely high standard, If you preach it you must practice it or be punished harshly as a fraud.
>>73057631
Im on the Right, and i am a christian, but im not on the fundamentalist right.
OY VEY how can there still be Christians???? The Bible is so dumb! Haven't any of you read a Kosher-approved Science™ book?
>>73057535
If you cannot be called upon to protect the constitution, then the constitution cannot be called upon to protect you.
Islam literally tells you to ignore man-made laws.
The constitution is a man-made legal construct.
Warning: refusal to acknowledge your freedom can be hazardous to your health.
>>73057659
JW's dont believe in hell
Everybody knows Hitler was an Atheist/Pagan/Agnostic/Satanist/Luciferian/New-Ager/Occultist/Crypto-Jew/Reptilian and DEFINITELY not a Christian!!
So in order to be TRULY redpilled, you goys are going to have to abandon your "faith" in the magic sky fairy!
SEIG HEIL!!
>>73057861
Hitler was catholic
>>73053388
Wether you don the fedora or not, America needs a moral authority now more than ever. People can get away with doing whatever they want, so long as their peers approve. We need a moral iron rod that can severely socially damage degenerates, and that iron rod could be the church.
t. fedoraless atheist.
>>73057922
No goy, h-he was definitely an Atheist s-so you should be too!!
prayer works
>>73053543
I don't know what fascists you are talking to. /pol/ is more natsoc that classical fascist, and natsoc is Christian.
>>73057734
>If you cannot be called upon to protect the constitution, then the constitution cannot be called upon to protect you.
Yes it can. When do citizens ever make an agreement to "protect the constitution" unless they join the military or hold public office?
Besides, there are plenty of muslims in the US armed forces who serve their country.
>>73056830
if you're Germanic. You're in Australia anyway, either start worshipping the Rainbow Serpent or move back to where you have roots.
>>73053388
I'm noticing that only rare exceptions among 1980+ parents choose to indoctrinate their children, there's a prevalent belief that all religions are but an anachronism in this day and age
there's no need to ban anything except pisslam that's a religion in name only and a grave threat to many a civilizational achievement the developed world is enjoying today
>>73053687
This is the dumbest atheist meme ever. America with added secularism looks like college campuses you fruitloop. People can only be kept civil out of the goodness of their heart for so long.
We need an authority. That authority could be a nationalist traditionalist leader, or it could be a reformed American church. We already have half of the second one, and we are getting at least 3/4 of the second one.
Just fuck you people man. You probably watch the Amazing Atheist, that edgy pot smoking degenerate retard.
>>73056830
Good goy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_paganism#Human_sacrifice
>>73058090
>When do citizens ever make an agreement to "protect the constitution" unless they join the military or hold public office?
>I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God.
> "I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.", should be rendered by standing at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. When not in uniform men should remove any non-religious headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Persons in uniform should remain silent, face the flag, and render the military salute."
Put it this way, you make that agreement every single time you invoke it to protect your own rights.
>>73056898
>The breakdown of Christianity in Europe has directly caused the current problems they have now
I noticed this as well - addiction; social isolation; neglect of the elderly; female emancipation; divorce rates; breakdown of traditional roles; widespread stress, anxiety and depression - all are at least addressed through religion if not successfully treated by it as well.
>>73053388
I believe we need it. Not for the meme skydaddy part but for the culture. We need something unmovable willing to pass down values for generations and to give a common moral ground for the people. It's required to ensure your kids can leave in a similar society with a similar piece of mind as the one you grew up in. Only a kind of religion or church as did the roman church can do that. The governments can't. But I'm not all happy with the current church since it's far from unmovable so...
>>73053908
You are so new it hurts...
>>73053687
>>73054343
The original cucks
>>73058311
The pledge was invented by socialists
But you're right anyway, there isn't any reason we should protect assholes who want to fuck us over
>but my right to be a communist and infiltrate your government!
>>73058543
They only infiltrate government because they can possess parts of office that don't require votes.
As for the actual elected offices, an elected official should plan a rigid charter, and when they break the charter, there should be a national vote yet again. This may sound like a hassle, but the internet has made it possible for people to interact with government this way without disrupting day to day life.
Most atheist have a hate boner for Christianity because it was forced on this as kid so they had to deal with that shit or they bought into it 100% to an extreme then finally found out the truth themselves. Rarely do you see atheists out right attack Judaism out of fear of being called an antisemitic, never Buddhism because they never bother anyone, Hinduism, new age garbage. It's mostly Christianity they go after in public and Islam when alone or when they have back up. I'm no fan of Christianity, I find Christian zealots disturbing, but the amount of vitrol and antagonizing many atheist take part in doesn't help detour others from organized religion. Especially those already brainwashed. I find them just as insufferable as people like Lying Ted or Little Macro who wax poetically or use it as a moral base for their politics.
>>73054299
Lol when you said pedo I thought you were talking about Catholicism because that's where all the pedos go
>>73054274
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
>Sorry but the bible says the earth was created in 6 days, 6,000 years ago.
can you tell me where it says its 6000 years from that bible verse
>>73058090
>Besides, there are plenty of muslims in the US armed forces who serve their country.
Irrelevant. If the choice came down to whether they had to protect the constitution, or obey Islam, which do you think will take priority?
As it happens, you're right.
The constitution is pretty much void at this point, since we're literally flooded with morons who don't understand how their own citizenship works.
As such, it's a meme gesture that we even keep pretending to honor it as a country, and the American Experiment failed, due to the inability of the American "citizen" to acknowledge their own inherent freedom.
>>73058806
Atheists are disproportionately are Jews though
That one guy in California who keeps trying to get "under God" removed from the constitution is an atheist Jew
Reminder that to convert to judaism you need to denounce christ, that the talmud teaches that jesus is burning in a pot of his own feces in hell and that the word "kike" comes from the yiddish word kikel which means circle because jews who immigrated through ellis island who were illiterate refused to put an X for their signature and instead put a circle because they hated the cross so much
>>73057306
Sounds like my life and guess what I'm happy as fuck faggot
>>73057508
So a priests cock in my ass should?
>>73058311
You still can't take away the rights of 3 million people based on a book they read and follow to varying degrees. I'm sure you could find something in the Bible, or Das Kapital, or Mein Kampf that says not to obey bad laws.
Do you take away the rights of everyone who reads those books?
Hell, even Gandhi and MLK said to disobey bad laws.
>>73058205
Look who encouraged radical Islam to fight the commies
>>73059287
>I'm sure you could find something in the Bible, or Das Kapital, or Mein Kampf that says not to obey bad laws.
The Bible Christians to obey the law of the land, in both the Old and New Testaments, and the other examples aren't religions, but if they were they would render their agreement to protect the constitution void also.
Not that it matters anymore, see:
>>73059116
I'm just one of these idiots who go around reminding people that nobody takes their citizenship seriously anymore, so why the fuck do we even bother with the constitution?
>>73059530
tells*
>>73053388
>Should we ban organized religion?
No. I don't think we should. The better idea is to tax the shit out of religious institutions until they're forced back into smaller buildings. After that, increase taxes slowly until they're forced to do their business outside. The vast majority of these people aren't capable of staying out in the hot summer sun/winter cold for long periods of time, so they'll move back into their homes and have smaller congregations.
Once that starts to happen, start charging for licenses to congregate in homes, and force people to pay for them each year. Then gradually decrease the time it takes for the license to expire, while increasing the fees required to renew or purchase a new license. Anyone caught congregating in their homes without a license is punished with absurd fees or jail time (later, make it both).
Make sure this is for every religion, no matter what religion it is or what kind of backlash it causes, stick to your guns. If they want to preach, they gotta pay. Making sure this is a subtle change is the most important part, because without subtle change, there'll be a bigger backlash/kneejerk reaction.
After a generation or two, we'll have successfully snuffed out religion.
>>73058320
All problems that are way worse in the united States and much worst in the Bible belt
>>73059561
You know they give a fuckload the charity right?
And American needs an overarching moral authority. I have gone over this in great depth in this thread in other posts.
We are experiencing the consequences of a populace that is taking a liking to the freedom of subjective a relative morality.
>>73059530
I take my citizenship seriously I want to make America great again by getting rid of you pedo faggots that want to stop me from rawdogging bitches and making them abort that fetus
>>73059561
that's the nork approach and you're better than that ameribro, let them live in peace
>>73059603
You are delusional if you think hat religion is at fault for any of that. Secularism is obviously increasing right along side those things. People were afraid to stop out of line when the church had social power.
I can tell you get your opinions from YouTube.
>>73053388
No, America is based on biblical doctrine.
And /pol/ is a Christian board.
>>73059804
And this is exactly the problem. You don't give a fuck about America, you give a fuck about "muh dick" you disgusting nigger faggot.
>>73059837
Sorry it's true buddy the Bible belt is full of impoverished idiots with zero education and lots of guns
>>73059742
>And American needs an overarching moral authority
America was founded on the opposite of this claim, but since it's illegal nowadays for me to kill you for attempting to subvert the constitution, and the government won't do it for me, then go right on ahead.
>>73053981
>Every religion on earth has been created by humans.
Great faith claim :^)
>>73059891
Basement dwelling virgin
>>73059995
Is this the quality of shill Hillary can afford? Retards who string together meaningless insults on a website where being a "normie" is seen as a bad thing?
>>73059742
>They give to charities, so they should be given free reign to continue to spread ignorance and hatred.
I see your flag there, straya.
>>73059888
wasted trips
I would at least expect a fuckin europoor to know about world history.
>>73059941
Actually the federal government has a ban on church and state because of the religious differences within the colonies
The states themselves had official churches, they were never subject to secularism
The only one subverting anything is you
>>73060079
Yeah I support Hillary I have a shit ton of investments in the stock market and the Clinton's love money and wall Street baby
>>73059934
Yeah, so it the middle east. And Mexico. And every third world peice of shit like China, minus the guns. The countries will strong Christian traditions do better all of the time in the long run.
Yes, protestant dissolution is a problem, robbing the degenerates in the backwater parts of America with the strong moral authority I keep speaking about. It is OBVIOUS that these people are serving themselves.
Tell you what, you don't want god, fine, I respect your hypothesis.
Please, give us an example of an atheist state that produces wealth and equality for it's people.
I can give you a list of 50+ that were Christian.
Plus my argument is patently logical, yours is driven by autistic fedora sperging.
>>73055246
This to be honest, a nation without transcendent values and metaphysics can never succeed.
>>73059287
>you still can't
We can if we have the popular support. Who will stop us, you?
The fact is society cannot exist if it is unwilling to remove foreign populations like the muslims who actively seek to overthrow the existing American society.
>>73060195
I sincerely hope the going wage is .02 cents a post because you certainly don't deserve more than that with this poor quality
>>73059603
>way worse in the united Statesand much worst in the Bible belt
well, obesity is worse there - I thought that was due to having a higher african-american population though.
>>73053388
Is he charging his ki?
>>73059995
Respectable human being, actually, who is more educated and probably earns more than you.
This is what secularism does to you when taken to the extreme. You really think being a morally perverse waste is more valuable than actually building a nation and keeping it up.
People like you are what produces the SJW movement, the moral relativism just allows them to fuck around all they want.
I ge that you are an atheist, but so am I, and yet I can see religion as the useful tool it is, and just like a wrench or a screwdriver, you can cause pain with it, but without it, you are fucked, unless there is some other social authority that you would like to invoke.
>>73060325
>We can if we have the popular support.
Doesn't a right mean it *can't* be taken away by majority rule?
>>73060225
Lol I don't give a shit about religion it just doesn't effect my politics at all I only care about making cash and getting pussy you faggots can argue over social issues all day
>>73060187
States have always had the right to express an official state religion and the only right they had was to assemble and discriminate against those who did not share it, until the federal government imposed secular law upon the states.
There was never a national religious establishment though. Keep on keepin' on.
>>73060130
Way to cherry pick the strange part you retard.
They aren't selfish, they give back. That was my point.
Not only that but the last thing we need is a smaller church. It needs unity and it needs reach, so that we can stop degeneracy. SJW philosophy and general deviation can't exist in a united christian environment.
>>73053388
No. But psychotic Christian zionists should be banned from holding any public position more prestigious than a PTA board member
>>73060162
You're the one ignorant about Western Civilization and the principles of the Founding Fathers, with all due respect.
The rule of law and a legal system is a biblical belief system.
>>73057691
>>73053388
They just get more extremist that way. Education is the key to get rid of more primitive ways.
>>73060477
If you cannot be called upon to protect the constitution, the constitution cannot be called upon to protect you.
You cannot claim "rights" if your religion prevents you from acknowledging them.
>>73060438
Yeh I'm going to enjoy my limited time among the living you idiots can waste your 80 yrs believing in a afterlife idc
>>73053388
Yeah
>>73053388
Don't you guys realise that Christianity is the only thing trying to keep society intact.
>sluts getting knocked up, freebleeding and transgenderism
did not happen when people went to church every sunday
>high divorce rate, women choosing a career over marriage
did not happen when we went to church every sunday
>decline in with birth rate
In most cases Christians have birth rates that go slightly above the 2.1 replacement lvl
>refurgies welcome
The church tries to be to modern with their pro gay and refurgies welcome attitude, to appeal to the masses. But back in the days when we went to church every sunday we tried to keep muslims out.
>everything left
Atheists vote Democrat 7 out of 10 times. For Christians its the other way around.
Go to a hardcore liberal newssite with a comment section or a liberal forum, look up an article about Christianity, see how they bash on it.
Christianity gives a lot of people a moral compass.
>>73060664
>If you cannot be called upon to protect the constitution, the constitution cannot be called upon to protect you.
But many muslims have served in the military and do protect the constitution, so your point is moot.
>>73057659
As if a God would send you to be burned and tortured for all eternity just because of thoughts in your head you couldn't really control. Insanity.
>>73053388
Yes, there is no place for superstition like that in the 21st century.
>>73060479
Alright, good. Thankfully morons like you don't have as much of a sway on politics as educated and respectable individuals such as myself.
You are useless. You are refuse. You are, fortunately, inconsequential. Part of me hopes everyone will start thinking like you so you can wallow in your own filth, but actual mench such as myself don't want everyone to suffer.
>I can't be wrong, I don't care!
>I know I was invested in the argument but you guys are faggots for being invested in the argument!
>I was just pretending so I can be schooled in the topic I don't care about
>>73060780
bullshit, show me a major group of Christians that actually lives true to the word of the Lord
going to church=/=being religious
you should see how many fresh Catholics (in name only) emerged after the fall of communism in my cunt
>>73057922
>>73057861
He converted to Islam in the last times of his life
All I hear are a bunch of ugly neck beards who get no vagina or have any fun so they don't wants anyone else to either
>>73053488
2 edgy.
>>73060780
>Atheists vote Democrat 7 out of 10 times.
This correlation is cited whenever it's necessary to imply causation, in either direction, but nobody makes up their mind which direction it is.
It's a pretty important question though, since we're practically being asked to assume a one-size-fits-all generalization as the premise of your argument.
Do atheists become degenerates because they're atheists, or do degenerates become atheists because they're degenerates?
Make up my mind, so I can figure out why I'm an atheist but I'm not a degenerate.
>>73060706
I'm an atheist, and you are wasting your life. I live happily, surely happily, because I build and create new things. I get to have an ego because I have earned everything around me from hard work.
I'm going to live longer than you, and I will be living in a mild state of euphoria through all of it, while you destroy your mind and body to to half of the same thing.
No one is jealous of you, which is why we don't become like you. We, are what we are because we believe in hard work, and it is a lot easier to be a moron picking up sluts and buying drugs than it is to work hard.
I'm not living soft core, I am living as best as I can.
Someone with the will to experience a good life such as yourself could achieve something similar to.
>>73060856
I went to Catholic school and can see through your faggotry
>>73060818
>But many muslims have served in the military and do protect the constitution, so your point is moot.
Are you sure that's what they're doing, or do you think it's possible that they're just doing what Islam encourages them to do to promote the spread of Islam?
>>73060994
The point is the impact. An atheist such as myself can recognize the utility in religion. They can deal with their own theological inconsistency, just leave it alone and try to benefit from it.
>>73061065
I do work hard and then I play hard
>>73061104
I didn't go to a catholic school, and it seems to be I did a hell of a lot better than you did.
It isn't the best growing up poor but it feels DAMN good knowing you fought out of it.
>>73061186
You were too busy being an edgy fucker to explain that.
No one is arguing against that, but really I don't feel the need. When I was working to pay through certain debts and education stuff, I'd party as hard as I could to, only because I didn't feel good with what I was doing.
I suppose there is no karmic wheel. There is no reason someone with your world view can't do an adequate job.
>>73061191
Yeh sorry I was born rich you might become rich but you'll never be one of us faggot
>>73061341
Honestly I have a girlfriend and have settled down a ton and will probably get married and have kids which will be my purpose to raise them right which may include going to church but I'll probably never believe
>>73061384
Um... I probably have better connections than you do.
I highly doubt you work very hard at all with that attitude.
You will never be one of us. Working out from poverty is what builds real ubermench. You are in every way other than birth bellow me. But that's okay, at least you are productive, and I respect that. Human toxicity doesn't poor into work.
>>73061062
#notallatheists
But one could argue that the lack of a moral compass Christianity has given is promoting degeneracy.
I dont believe in god myself, but since I browse this board I respect christianity again, the values it stands for, at least the values it represented when I was a kid.
>>73060994
I dont really care about how true you are, but to me its about the moral guidlines.
Molyneux did a vid about it, sadly I dont have the time to fully explain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqQdc0mX1_c
>not an argument
yea whatever, a lot of his vids are to long for me, but this one is very decent
>>73061504
That is wise. However, if you are a good father, I don't think they will need much religion. I don't have kids right now, and I'm not married, but my parenting won't be church centric.
Between you, me, and everyone else reading, the church is really pleb control, and I say that with the utmost respect for the working class of the country.
>>73060994
it isn't about the "word" necessarily so much as the assembly and the sense of inclusion etc.
>>73061504
You're an honest man. Ignore the Aussie.
>>73061130
Someone's spirituality is not black and white. It's not "if he's not a lunatic trying to spread the religion, he's not a muslim." Someone can just believe in Allah and not caring about anything.
>>73061062
>This correlation is cited whenever it's necessary to imply causation
Sadly I gotta go back to work, but look back at all the things I pointed out
>sluts
>freebleeding
>decline birth rate
>divource rate increase
>refurgies welcome
>transgenderism
And thats just quickly typing this without thinking about it, just comes to mind first.
A whole lot things that are connected to decline in Christianity
>>73061527
>I dont believe in god myself, but since I browse this board I respect christianity again, the values it stands for, at least the values it represented when I was a kid.
Doesn't that lend a degree of validity to the argument that religion is a tool of social manipulation, in a desperate attempt to justify "stop liking what I don't like" with a knowingly falsified moral authority?
If this is legitimately your position then you should stop admitting that you don't believe it yourself, because you're being counter-productive to your own goals. *wink wink*
>>73061654
Read the whole thread pajeet. He neglected to mention that he wasn't a total waste. You read his first posts and tell me you don't smell faggot.
Scratch that, learn to poo in loo before you learn how to read, my smelly brown friend.
>>73061787
>Someone can just believe in Allah and not caring about anything.
If you claim to believe in Allah then you are subject to whatever assumptions can be made about you based on your claims.
Hiding in the shadows of vagueness and insincerity is literally the source of the problem with Islam.
>>73061801
...Can you fucking read?
Religion is a tool, simple as that. Stop being a faggot. A wrench doesn't need to be logically consistent, a screwdriver doesn't need to be morally justifiable.
>>73061917
The source of the problem with Islam is a religion started by a war lord tyrant. Oh, fuck, what was it called? Um... Uh, Islam!
I hope God doesn't exist
>>73053543
>hello fascist
oy vey redditard your newfagness is leaking out
>>73062039
MALASIA! Muh dude! Still making drawthreads?
>>73061792
Again. Correlation I can accept.
You're not actually establishing the direction of the causal relationship though, and that's important, because we need to figure out whether shitty behavior is the source of atheism or if atheism is the source of shitty behavior, and I always see about a 50/50 ratio of both implications being made.
Bye.
>>73061527
>moral guidlines
when will this meme end? the morals you speak of have transcended Christianity and became an integral part of all our secular societies, therefore the only real-world application of your opinion I could see play out in places like Lebanon or any other mohameddan-infested place, serving only as a shield against death cultists and not much else
if you knew any irreligious people that aren't fedora'd atheists you could see that a vast majority does not have loose morals or lives an immoral life
>>73061947
But in doing so you are ripping the carpet from beneath your own claim to moral authority and reducing yourself to "stop liking what I don't like".
>>73062107
That guy is probably dead already
>>73056357
>implying intelligence is at all correlated with political affiliation
Most athiest or agnostic people have higher IQs than religious people
There have literally been studies on this shit
Google it nigger
>>73062341
What's your IQ?
>>73062188
It's a matter of making that moral authority both rational and backed up by both social and implied spiritual consequences.
This is basically goy control mate.
It can be perfectly morally consistent. Christina morals happen to be fairly bloody reasonable when it comes to keeping a populace healthy, happy and strong.
The alternatives are half assed decisions that keep the degeneracy neatly trimmed, or we can sue religion or government to spread propaganda. This is the core reason why I think the Nazis were a net positive. Something needs to keep the people in line, but not only that. They need to be strong, happy, and healthy.
>>73062313
So there are more people farm Malaysia now? Shame, I almost miss the dude's cancer.
>>73062605
Then take your own advice. *wink wink*
>>73062341
I've seen dirt retarded people run logical circles on people who are supposed to be very intelligent.
Basically, a high IQ doesn't keep you for being retarded.
>>73062708
I can't help but feel like a moron for this, but I honestly don't have much of a fucking clue what you are on about with the winks.
Yeah, I'll keep doing what I am doing... If that's what you are saying.
>>73056357
Most atheists have read the bible, most christians have not.
>>73053388
yes for fucks sake it should have been banned long ago. you worship a space jew you got problems and you need help
>>73062771
>I'm an atheist, but I think everyone should be Christian.
Cool story bro.
>>73056038
>i dont give a shit about catholicism
INC faggot or a American Protestantnigger? Eitherway, BURN THY HEATHEN
>>73053543
>implying fascism is a bad thing
How'd you like a free helicopter ride
>>73062929
I never said everyone. I just think it should be heavily propagandized. So the stupid are guaranteed to go down a good path , while the astute are still under a moral authority, but can believe whatever they want.
I don't see how this is hard to understand.
>>73060780
>did not happen when we went to church every sunday
because divorce doesn't exist in Christianity.
>>73063045
I don't see how it's hard to understand that it has been heavily propagandized throughout the Western World and people still aren't buying into it.
Imagine that I am one of these idiots who are too stupid to be responsible. You're telling me that you don't believe in god, but I should believe in god because I'm an idiot. That's counter-productive, and it suggests that you might just be the actual idiot in our conversation.
>>73053454
>There can only be one truth about the creation of our world
The best religions are hardly religions at all. They're focused around ideologies. Coincidentally, these are the same ideologies that psychologists have decided to study and which those who do psychedelics can not shut up about. It seems just about anyone can understand that feeling of "oneness", or to live in the moment, that feeling of putting one's mind down and taking everything in, and the feeling of listening to one's own thoughts without judgement and questioning ones' self. All these religions do is tell you how to control it better and how to live your life by this.
Why need religion in the first place? We all live by ideologies, what we're lacking is what religion seems to give a lot of people. Philosophies to live by that seem true to you. Well, maybe people should incorporate psychology, philosophy, and Taoist/Buddhist beliefs into the most redpilled "religion" in existence. It teaches you to truly control ones' self while allowing your mind to be open about the questions of the world. You don't need to fill that void with a God. We can just leave it open. This would also allow science to coexist happily with it.
Thoughts?
After all, people are selective about their beliefs as it is. The fuck are we kidding ourselves by saying we're consistent in them in the first place. I hardly believe some people when they say they're Christian anymore.
>>73063045
>>73063380
Here's to hoping that you just found Jesus today.
*wink wink*
>>73053543
>>73053543
KEK'D
>>73053543
>>73055861
A+ is such a cucked movement the early soviets were athiests but they did not tolerate degeneracy
>>73058025
Fascism implies lack of freedom of religion
>>73062710
And I've seen black people become doctors and lawyers. Life isn't always consistent, what's your point?
Cucks and faggots are atheists
>>73053388
No.
People have a consitutional right to their religion.
And even if religion weren't specified as a constitutional right, the people still have the freedom of thought, the freedom of speech, and the freedom of assembly.
You can't ban religion without affecting those rights.
If some guy wants to think and say that an invisible wizard exists, he can do that. And he can spend his time with other people who believe in the wizard. And you can't ban that.
You can only stop them from turning certain religious aspects (like homophobia and racism) into laws. But they still can believe and talk about it. It's their right.
>>73065185
I sometimes imagine Catholic priests getting a hardon listening to the adventures of his congregation in his little booth.
How many times a year do you suspect on average that they get the opportunity to hear a story of cuckoldry?
>>73053388
you cant. 1st Amendment you nigger
>>73059561
>no I don't think we should violate the 1st amendment, we should violate the 1st amendment AND the 14th amendment
Fucking brilliant idea!
>>73053908
>Big bang
The thing that was formulated by a priest?
Just lkie genetics was first discovered by a monk?
And how all the advancements of the classical world were kept safe by the Catholic church up until the renisance?
>>73062833
bullshit most atheist are little children who got raped in there ass by their christfag father , and they now reject god and know the bible in some interpretation
>>73054753
In some form or another, but it doesn't mean that Christianity was a majority. Celtic Christianity was also very different than modern Christianity also. Druids were still around in Ireland until the 9th century according to contemporary sources, and the last victory attributed to a pagan goddess was in the 11th century. Spanish and Italian visitors to Ireland in the early modern era wrote about the general paganism in Ireland still present in their time. Rural Scotland, especially Skye and the Outer Hebrides was much the same way, with the last Pagans converted in the 19th century.
>>73055108
Christianity is globalism and all mainstream Christian churches are pro immigration.
>>73066353
>bullshit most atheist are little children who got raped in there ass by their christfag father
Well if that's what Christians are doing then surely Christianity is suffering from major internal problems and they should sort those out before going after anyone outside of the flock.
I just finished writing a paper on the human right to religious freedom AMA
tldr: you can in exceptional circumstances 'ban' religion but you'd need to exhaust every other avenue first
>>73053488
Wrong. They are pro-science, its followers are malinformed. The story of the Christ is a parody on the sun and therefore the journey of the soul. Religion is a system in which normies can find morality in a literal story of history, and those searching for a deeper purpose find it through allegories, gematria, and parables.
Banning organized religion is pointless, a certain percentage of the population has a biological need to believe in a god or a whatever.
If it isn't a god they will take hold of a secular religion like feminism or PETA.
Furthermore the organized part of organized religion is a important factor in social cohesion and control. Most people are too lazy to work out the ethical proofs as to why stealing is bad, just like most people are too lazy to realize they can derive a quadratic equation. They would rather read in a book that it is true.
Ban god. We need organized religion. Specifically one that has values that we like and focuses around strengthening a community.
What I am saying is that we need to create our own religion
>>73053388
No one is being paid to shill for Hillary. It's a Republican-funded lie and a pathetic attempt at smearing her campaign.
>>73066810
http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/Issues/Religion/A-HRC-31-18_en.pdf
>25. Although the forum externum of freedom of religion or belief and freedom
expression is not protected unconditionally in articles 18 and 19 of the Covenant, its legal
protection remains strong. Limitations or restrictions cannot be legitimate unless they
satisfy all the criteria set out in article 18 (3) or article 19 (3), respectively. Notwithstanding
differences in concrete formulations, the tests required in both articles contain similar
elements. Firstly, limitations or restrictions must be “prescribed by law” or “provided by
law”. The requirement of a clearly formulated legal basis should prevent Governments from
intervening in an arbitrary and unpredictable manner. Moreover, limitations or restrictions
must serve a legitimate purpose from an exhaustive list of possible purposes. In the case of
article 18 (3), this list comprises “public safety, order, health, or morals or the fundamental
rights and freedoms of others”. Article 19 (3) enumerates “respect of the rights and
reputations of others”, as well as “protection of national security or of public order (ordre
public), or of public health or morals”. Finally, both articles require that limitations or
restrictions be strictly “necessary” to pursue one of the said purposes. In other words,
proposed limitations cannot be legitimate if the respective purpose could also be served by
a less far-reaching intervention.
>>73066636
>Well if that's what Christians are doing then surely Christianity is suffering from major internal problems and they should sort those out before going after anyone outside of the flock.
It is but it was just one silly example for many cases christianity has become corrupted as man got corrupted in this age there is no stopping that. Why would a priest fuck little children, they go to hell right ? according their belief
>>73058968
The bible is not a science book. there is a meaning to the creation story
>>73061004
No wonder he committed suicide then
