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If being transgender is a mental illness, what would be a suitable treatment for this over hormone therapy?

Hard Mode: Nothing that requires killing the individual
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>>73043877
Removal of anime. Trans often comes with anime. Coincidence? No.

Nuclear bombs created this.
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>>73043877
Bible camp and spiking food with methamphetamine.
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>>73043877
The simplest solution is the best solution.
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>>73043995

I'd argue more nuclear bombs would fix it.
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>>73043877
Labotomy and removal from society
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>>73043877
Antipsychotics
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>>73043877
>what would be a suitable treatment
treating their mind maybe
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>>73043877
They should just quit being such a faggot.
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>>73043877
Proper research into the brain chemistry and anatomy of afflicted individuals.
Determine the source of dysfunction, whether it is due to chemical imbalances or whether the cause is genetic, or if the problem is psychosomatic.
Follow up with proper post diagnosis treatment:
If psychosomatic: counseling
If chemical imbalance: medication
If genetic: possibly allow transitioning while developing gene therapy treatments which would allow them to genetically become whatever gender they want

You know like how we treat every other disease

The reason we don't already do this is because any legitimate researcher who even hints that transgenders might have a disorder is immediately demonized and ridiculed out of the profession.
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government issue girlfriends so that lonely nerds stop idolizing women to the point of wanting to become women
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>>73043877

Normal therapy.
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>>73043877
Massive sensibilization campaign to encourage parents to block pornsites, regulate the internet time of their children and actually take a look at what they watch (just have a software who save logs).

I already know that if I have a kid, the day he is 11 it will be a cyber warfare to not let him be mentally fucked by all the internet pornography like I was (and still struggle with).

Anyway most trans people are mentally ill, and when I say that I don't speak about the fact they want to change their gender, I speak about all the co-morbidities they have with (depression, anxiety, PTSD, etc...), they need psychological help, not pills or surgery.
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Bullet to the head. Trannies are an abomination
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The reality is that we don't have a good way to treat it. Hormone therapy may be the only short-term way to keep these people from killing themselves.

The problem is that because regressive liberals are so fucking set on not considering these people mentally ill that proper research on better treatments will never happen. Trannies will never get true help because leftists think they are already helping by enabling their condition.
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Mandatory euthanization of virgin men over the age of 20.
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>>73043877
More anime but of a different sort.
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>>73044644
>Hormone therapy may be the only short-term way to keep these people from killing themselves.

Hormones therapy actually provokes or exacerbates depression, anexiety and suicidal thought.
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>>73043877
Nothing will fix their detachment from reality.

I would like to see what it would be like to have two x's, but let's be real here, it aint ever happening.
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>>73044689
I knew Canada was retarded, but holy shit.

Fuck yeah for 18 year old parents goddamn EVERYWHERE!
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>>73043877
> if its considered a mental illness

First its to make tge individual to understand their place in the world
- their pressence will make an impact on their direct surroundings
- their lack of pressence will open up questions or force people to lie

We as a species need have many obstacles in the future we need to reach such as
- colonization of space
- inventing the means to create and maintain ecosystems
- effectively establishing a culture of understanding, tolerance and justice

The persons transition is an expensive procedure whos obly benefit is to open up doors so that others can also get this expensive procedure

The feeling or believing of being the opposite gender does not help in evolution since your actions is to make yourself infertile. If you would like to support evolution, celebrate crossdressing and attempt to attract the opposite sex with it. It is the opposite sex's role then to try and attract you. Sttracting the same sex helps by supporting a sexual culture which increases population size and forces us to search fir a way to survive and expand. Additionally sex is entertaining.

If you would like to experience life as the opposite sex, do not bring the world down to bring yourself up. Bring yourself up to bring the world up to your level

Tbh though I kinda like tgirls tbqh
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>>73043877
Sauce on these two? I need for research purposes
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>>73044497
>The reason we don't already do this is because any legitimate researcher who even hints that transgenders might have a disorder is immediately demonized and ridiculed out of the profession.

Why is that? (Inb4 "the Joos")
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>>73045278
Baka to test and idolmaster
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If only I could get test as easy as transfaggots get estrogen
>feelsbadman
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>>73045312
Gender studies and the whole postmodernist, critical theory bollocks, written by...
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>>73045421
t-thanks
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> wanting to stop femboys

why seems gay idea to me
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I know liberals have convinced everyone that being trans is great, but gender dysmorphia is very obviously a mental illness and is recognized as such.

I don't see how anyone could be in such suffering over their identity and not feel they had a mental illness. It's one thing to be gay and feel sad because society hates you. It's another to feel deeply distressed because you have a dick.

Whether or not it is a physical or measurable problem in the brain, it's still a mental illness. I don't know the best method to treat it because I'm not a doctor or a researcher, and neither are most of you.
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>>73043877
Graft a tusk on their forehead so they can recognize one another anywhere they go, other people can recognize them, and they can feel pretty and "special" like a unicorn.

Problem solved.
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>wahh stop living a way I don't like

Literally who gives a fuck?
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Well first you're going to convince them why they shouldn't do it.

They tried that, over the course of several decades of clinical psychology, and at best they were able to convince people not to do it in public, only so they don't get dragged into town square and burned for witchcraft.
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>>73045676
It's not easy to look at yourself in the mirror and say "There's something wrong with me. I need help." Confronting a mental illness is difficult and painful. Many sufferers refuse to do it, and instead gravitate toward people that enable them so they don't have to.

Bizarrely, instead of toxic friends and neglectful parents like with other more common mental illnesses, the people who enable transgenderism are million-dollar media organizations, elected officials, and accredited medical professionals.
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>>73043877
If its Blaire White then the answer would be a right good going over with my penis. Then I'd take her for Ice Cream and shoe shopping. Bitches love ice cream and shoes.
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>>73045676
Pop open the DSM-V some day.

There's a reason clinical psychology doesn't want that book passed around.

One of them is so people don't learn how to fake symptoms.

The other is so people don't notice that literally everyone on Earth could potentially be diagnosed with some shit.

Mental illness lacks the social stigma it had before. Everyone wants a meme diagnosis now.
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>>73043877
Take a berdache approach no changing names no sex change just dress comfortably act and do what ever you please to be comfortable with yourself it worked for the two spirited natives for centuries
http://hubpages.com/education/Native-American-Berdache-Tradition
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>>73046107
>First, anthropologists studying Native America are re-thinking the concept of gender as a whole. Accounting for European bias, we are beginning to understand that gender has meant a multitude of things in different societies and is often distinctly separate from one's sexual orientation.

Careful friend, /pol/ will lynch you for linking articles like that.
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>>73046107
Oh ya definitely no hormone therapy that shit can seriously fuck up your body
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Fuck off kike
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>>73044061
The final solution is the only solution
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>>73046107
I live near a reservation, and I occasionally see one of these "two spirit" guys riding around town with some other dude at 2:00 AM on a beer run.
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>>73046198
Ya i might get it but in thr end im still against the concept of the trany movement and the use of sex changes in a attempt to suppress ones mental illness. Plus everyone should know by now th e reality of how well the two spirited culture worked for the natives
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>>73043877

Why treatment? Let them either contribute to society or starve out. They're perfectly capable of working, so they should receive no benefits from the state. Those depressed fuckboys can either metaphorically man the fuck up and do something useful or off themselves. Nobody cares what you do to your body. Fuck off.
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>>73046401
If you read the article or any other information on this you would know that the two spirited aesthetic in the native culture was killed off in the 1800s when the us government ran the kill the indian save the man approach
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>>73043877

Damn that's a lot of good Shinji crossdressing

Who got more
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>>73046273
this
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>>73046677
I live near a reservation, dude.
Take a stab at how many spooky white man stories I've heard where they were forced to abandon their culture, and why it's so important to preserve what's left.
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>>73043877
>Nichi-bros on that list.
Disgusting.
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>>73044497
But gender dysphoria is already a DSM V categorized disorder, no one in academia should dispute that it's a condition.
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The draft during WWIII.
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>>73044751
>Hormones therapy actually provokes or exacerbates depression, anexiety and suicidal thought.

But what happens if transgender people are put on hormone therapy that reinforces their actual gender rather than their perceived gender? What happens if a man believing himself to be a woman gets put on a proper /fit/-style steroid cycle?
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>>73048098
Surely, nobody has given that consideration in the last hundred years. They must have just jumped right to sending them in the opposite direction with no regard for how society would respond to it.

Damn. You might have just solved the whole dilemma with this profound insight.
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>>73048240
I mean, obviously someone has done this at some point, presumably when psychiatric ethics were more lax. My question isn't "why has nobody done this", it's "what happens when this is done"
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>>73044838
>virgin over the age of 20 detected
He's right you know.
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>>73045312
Liberals don't want to lose a whole new victim class to exploit for easy votes.
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>>73043877
There's some amount of research being done into stimulating the brain using magnetic fields and one of the potential applications is as a voluntary procedure to assist in the rehabilitation of criminals. The brains of criminals are known to be different in predictable ways and it is thought that correcting this abnormality might curb criminal behavior. That said, if one was going to really cure gender dysphoria, that might be the method to use, correcting the developmental defects which cause the problem.
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>>73048335
I suspect the results weren't successful, and only exacerbated the dysphoric symptoms, but since I'm interested I'll look into it and if I'm able to find something even though Google will throw more popular hits at me before the thread dies I'll post it.

Psychology always gets a bad reputation for telling people things they don't want to hear, and you'd think with our obsession with "meme magic" people would be more likely to look into cognitive research to explore the root of memetic effectiveness.
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>>73048896
Pardon me if I step in and remark that transgender issues and criminal activity clouds the issue over whether brain manipulation and literal "mind control" is something we should be calling for as a society.
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>>73043877
Rope.
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Cognitive behavioural therapy for most
For the more Borderline Personality disordered, dialectical behaviour therapy.
Administered by a decent, empathetic but redpilled, psychologist.

Treat the comorbid depression and general madness with either citalopram, fluoxetine or with a light anti-psychotic.

help them seek meaningful employment, probably something hands on and with decent job satisfaction.

Get them to lift.
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>>73043877
Wouldn't making this shit a nonissue be cool? I have fucked a tranny, but the bitch whored itself for surgery. Sounds fair to me as long as I am not paying probono
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>>73048942
>Psychology always gets a bad reputation for telling people things they don't want to hear
No it gets a bad rap because much of it is absolute bullshit that gets passed off as real science. It's not completely without validity it's just it's nowhere near on the same levels as say physics or chemistry, it's more around economics level (no offence). Just look at this shit

http://www.nature.com/news/over-half-of-psychology-studies-fail-reproducibility-test-1.18248
>Whereas 97% of the original studies found a significant effect, only 36% of replication studies found significant results. The team also found that the average size of the effects found in the replicated studies was only half that reported in the original studies.
This is exactly the same as what happens when people look into the results of fucking psi researchers and other such pseudo-sciences.
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Sustanon and/or testosterone cypionate
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>>73043877
The solution to all problems you have with people
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>>73049289
>it's just it's nowhere near on the same levels as say physics or chemistry
Well I agree, and the reason is that the subject itself is, at this moment, at the objective level of "alchemy" by comparison to "chemistry".

Most everything dealing with the complexity of the human brain and nervous system is a shot in the dark with trial and error, and reproducibility is no doubt a problem with research, which is why more research is necessary.

I can't refuse to acknowledge that they often jump the gun on conclusiveness on shit.
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>>73044351
Thread should have ended after this answer
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>>73043877
>what would be a suitable treatment for this over hormone therapy

This is like saying what would be a suitable treatment for a burn victim other than a hot iron. Literally anything else.
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What about brown girls growing penises to impregnate moms?
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>>73043877
how about removing all the fucking plastics we use in every product we buy from the shops?

microwaving your food in plastic containers, drinking out of plastic bottles, the "fragrance" additives in deodorant and cosmetics. all of it fucks your hormones up.

just think about it. every fucking bitch out there in the first world is waking up every morning and slapping make-up on full of BPAs and other horrible shit, going out and getting koncked up, and STILL putting this shit on their faces with a foetus inside them.

we have an entire generation of feminized males thanks to our addiction to plastic, as well as phenomenal levels of prostate and breast cancer killing us slowly.

do your future children a favour and stop eating out of plastic containers, drinking out of plastic bottles, and make absolutely fucking sure that if you knock a girl up, she understands what that shit is going to do to her child.
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>>73043877
Chemically castrate them for a short time. During their time let them know what its like to be gender neutral.

Assuming male, removing their jiggly bits that make them horny is a point of no return. Chemical castration can simulate a life of not having testicles. If they can handle the 6 months or so of chemical castration then who knows.

Pic unrelated, just fapped to etrian odyssey 5 portraits because I fucking love being a male
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>>73043877
>If being transgender is a mental illness, what would be a suitable treatment
dont allow sex changes. then they cant BE transgender. duh
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>>73043877
Cute girl therapy. As soon as they see how cute girls can be, they'll want to stop being trans faggots and get a girlfriend instead.
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>>73049832
I'd love to tell you this is a great idea, but I'm not sure what to replace these things with.

After all...

Even though the vaccine/autism link is debatable, it's an objective fact that vaccination promotes the spread of unfit genes throughout the population, which will inevitably result in permanent dependence on vaccines, when there are plenty of people who don't even need them.

That alone should be a significant enough reason not to support a mass vaccination program, but >muh feelings seems to be more important.
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>>73050097
Give me the name of this.
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>>73043877
Anime made me a sissy trap crossdresser.

That image is true.
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>>73050116
the difference between myself and a cfilthy "plastic is baaad maaan" hippie is that i'm against stupid plastic, not all plastic.

i'm sure you've seen packaged fruit in stores, as well as those little plastic sleeves that juicebox straws come in, tacked to the side of the cardboard.

and every tin can you see in stores today is lined with plastic on the inside. a lot of pubs precook a week's meals, store them in plastic, then properly cook on the day of serving. and have you seen how supermarkets package cheese these days?

>cheese
>inside a plastic-lined foil wrapping
>inside a plastic dish
>with a plastic seal around it
>in a plastic laminated cardboard box

"stupid plastic" is everywhere, and all of it is directly related to decreased testosterone and small penises.
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>>73046273
/thread
Anime is pure.
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Honestly, most people are already too far gone.

A bullet between the eyes is the only way to fix all the tranny-freaks, faggots and other scum.
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what if I want to bang fuccbois because the modern woman is a poison

assume that i'm an agnostic theist and don't care what the bible says

should I just bite the bullet and seek out a mate anyways or go for a trap
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>>73050747
even in gay marriage the "fuck boy" can still take half your stuff, happening all over the place actually
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>>73043995
What's it like being 14?
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nothing

let them live in their delusion. just don't let them get surgery, and don't make me call a he a she
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>>73043877
tfw fell for the yaoi meme
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