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http://www.cjad.com/WorldCP/Article.aspx?id=511483

Current 18-21year olds will not be grandfathered in either.

Lmao. 18-19 year old jew stick addicted cucks btfo
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>old enough to die for country
>old enough to drive 2 ton vehicles at 65mph down insterstate with other humans at risk
>old enough to get married and start family
>old enough to sign contracts
>not old enough to inhale burning leaf smoke
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What the literal fuck man. I dont smoke. I think its a terrible idea. But this law is si beyond fucked and should never have passed. Basically for >>73039241 reasons
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I mean what the FUCK
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Put an end to the breathable Jew.
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cuckifornia does it again
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>>73039241
>expecting logic out of commiefornians
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>>73039241
>18 is old enough to die for our liberal beliefs
>but not old enough to smoke silly goyim
>now turn in your guns we dont trust you to have them
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Cigarettes should be banned due to the damage that they do.
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Thank god...

NO DRUGS
NO ALCOHOL
NO CIGARETTES
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>>73038720
>California raises smoking age from 18 to 21
>Current 21year olds will not be grandfathered in either.
typical liberal stupidity. 21 year olds can still smoke as per the new state law. they dont need to be
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>>73039572

Why not just put an end to all your rights while youre at it. Honestly, if people want to smoke and get diseases and lung cancer that's their choice. The government has absolutely no reason to put their hands in this.
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im fine with this law.

less people that smoke the better.
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>>73039241
It's actually good in the long run. Less people will take up the nasty habit of smoking. It's been shown that people who don't start smoking at around the age of 18 will be less likely to start later on.
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>>73039808
>The government has absolutely no reason to put their hands in this.
sin tax, why do you think weed is getting legalized
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No drugs no alcohol no Oreos no Mexico
I fucken love what America is turning into
It's beginning a true trump nation where we all kick habits and focus on our country and start winning at everything that makes us live longer
Imagine soon Americans will live to be 200 because of trump
I really would support banning alcohol
Less blacks with 40s they might get a job
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>>73038720

Based California?

Smoking is basically a dead cultural fad at this point. Some old people haven't gotten the memo yet.

>Lmao there are going to be 19 year old men "Hey-Mister"ing me at the gas station

>mfw I say "Cigarettes? Those things'll kill ya, you know."

>mfw I'm the guy those kids made fun of later while they puff away on the cigarettes they drove across town for.
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>>73039808
>I have the right to expose everyone around me to carcinogens
top kek
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>>73040100

But the constitution protects my ability to poison those around me and cause scent pollution!
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>>73040100
You do know in an outdoors environ carcinogens are only detectable within 3 feet and all combustion materials are undetectable outside of 6 feet?

Of course you don't because you're a faggot and a dumbass.
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>>73040100
You do it everyday you drive.
No driving until your 30 NOW!
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>>73038720

If you smoke cigarettes you should kill yourself anyway.
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>>73040158
Well then it tells me I have the right to self defense
Smoke around me and I'll shoot you
>>73040316
Nice try you should carry measuring tape around then
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Hawaii did it last year I don't know why you Cali fags think you're special.
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>>73040443
Califonians always think they are special

I say this as a native Californian

Somebody pls nuke us
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>>73040316
What about the residue and smell? It's disgusting if you're a non smoker and you should have some respect for the people who have to be within your proximity. You wouldn't make people sniff your farts so why do you expect people to have to breathe in your burning tobacco?

Smoking is the equivalent of being a nigger and walking around with your pants around your thighs.
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>>73040443
Wow never thought Hawaii got the US flag ID
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No one cares but those born after 1993... honestly though smoking is one of the worst things I've ever done to myself. Not that I have any medical problems but god damn do I get cravings.
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>>73040443
>Compaq
>Steven King
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>>73040573
just fuck off any realize you're in public... don't like it get the fuck away from me or anyone else smoking and shut the fuck up. Might as well complain about people not bathing or car exhaust.
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lol I'm 29 years old, and I remember as a kid in the 90s going to the mall and seeing a bunch of teenie boppers smoking cigarettes outside. Like 15-17 year olds.

I went back to that mall a few years ago. Then it banned smoking even in the parking lot and there was no one inside. The place was fucking empty. Now it's not even a mall, it's a series of outdoor shops. Times change.
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>>73038720
>tfw I turn 21 a few days before the law is enacted
Nice try you statist fuckwads.The Western half of this state can't sink into the ocean fast enough.
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>>73041032
That's China's fault
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>>73039808
>Falling for the smoke jew because "muh freedom"

You're free to hang yourself, fucking addict.
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>>73040432
If you're that close to me get the fuck out of my personal space you little bitch.

>>73040573
Bitching about smokers is the equivalent of being a SJW hamplanet crying about cyberbullying
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Did they even fucking legalize weed yet?

I remember fucking all californians were deluded and argued that legalizing weed would only make it more expensive, because their fucking kike dispensary overlords actually fucking brainwashed them into believing it so they could keep a monopoly

That whole state should be fucking nuked
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so what? less young degenerates who smoke.
18 to 21? what, that's like 3 years. it's fucking nothing.
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>>73038720
I grow my own tobacco and smoke it in a pipe. I also brew my own hard apple cider. Jokes on you gov't.
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>>73038720
Okay blahh blahh blah commiefornia is dumb and cucked idc it's immoral whatever I really don't care.

My question is, will it actually work?
Will this all around decrease smoking or will it have other effects they're not telling us about?
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>>73038720
They do that now when in fact every 18-21 year old uses e-cigs now lol.
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>>73041278
It is all but legal. Being caught with less than the amount a dealer would have is a slap on the wrist, and there are legally operating clinics that exist for the sole purpose of getting you medical marijuana card for something like less than $100 for a one-time consultation.
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>>73041188
Top that off second hand smoke is a myth.
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>>73041362
It will stop the average goy public high schooler from smoking. The ones who actually deserve to smoke will grow it themselves. I only agree with a smoking ban if there is a national health service in effect, which I also do not agree with.
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>>73041278
$200 an ounce on average in Colorado... $1000 an ounce in Denver. That's high quality stuff that will put you on your ass though... way better pricing than non-legal states. $80 for a quarter for what I can only assume is low grade is FL.
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>>73041188
I'm all for you killing yourself I'm not going to stop you I'll root you on
just do it away from others it's called common courtesy
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>>73041508
I can't tell if you're shitposting intentionally or are just fucking retarded.
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>>73041550
Seriously, I used to be able to buy $100 an ounce plus extra if the dealer liked me in high school.
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Any of you have $30,000 laying around?

Start a vape shop. Electronic cigs will be the only answer for at least 500,000 people.
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>smoking tabacco is bad
>but weeb LMAO is ok

Fucking liberals
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>>73041618
Let me make this clear. I do not support a smoking ban. If you are old enough to die for this country, old enough to work and pay taxes, then you are old enough to buy a fucking pack of cigarettes and a bottle of beer.
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This is just gonna make kids want it more especially teens rebelling just like buying shit tier beer and partying underage its all a game man
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>>73041820
>bottle
Can is superior
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>>73041820
Don't care faggot.
I was asking about the effectiveness of the law and you just decided to reply with shit.

Maybe you should take a break from pol or just lurk more.
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>>73038720
Hawaii did this in January. Get with the times, dumb mainlanders.
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>>73038720
The vast, overwhelming majority of smokers here in California are foreigners.

I never witnessed anybody smoking in my entire life until I went to college and met the European exchange students, who were all like fucking chimneys
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>>73041869
How so? Because it is cheaper? The smartest thing to do is brew your own, but when I don't I usually buy Pabst.
>>73041932
>All this salt
I did explain the effectiveness of the law.
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>>73041820
>being able to stop kids from drinking or smoking
When I was a kid we used to go to a mate's house and her older brother would get us slabs of beer and weed, he didn't mind and said we should be able to drink anyway (we were 15 at the time senpai)

>>73041869
Fuck off cunt, you can taste the metal in that shit. Glass is the best.

>>73041843
This.
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>>73040069
>smoking is a dead fad

Uhhh hate to break it to you but go to any college party, motherfuckers are still smoking them as if its going out of style like you say, except its not
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>>73041979
Reminds me of a guy from Hong Kong I met in college. Dude could party harder than anyone, smoked a pack a day, and is still the most handsome Asain dude I've met to this day. He was racist as fuck to anyone that wasn't Asian or White too -- mostly towards blacks and Native Americans, oddly enough.
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>>73041738
I can't wait until the long term affects of these things reveal themselves
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>>73040443
i planning to buy a canon rebel but i want video you recommend it?
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>>73042093
>going to college parties
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>>73041278

it's set to be on the ballot in Nov
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>>73040443
hey brah
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>>73042049
No, you didn't. You were too busy spouting /pol/ memes to try and fit in and just other shit like suggesting people are going to start growing tobacco themselves. You're literally fucking retarded.
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>>73042188
>affects

looks like they've already started d.e.s.u.
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>>73039241
>>73039428
>>73039642
>defending smoking
There is literally no reason to defend Cigarettes
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>>73042206
For the price range it's one of the best you can get for video if you know your way around them.
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>>73042152
This may surprise you. But with the exception of the West for the last 50 years, every single race, religion and government on the face of the Earth thought of niggers as something closer to an animal than a human.

Many religions (such as Mormonism) have special explanations in their creation stories to explain the creation of niggers, separate to the creation of humans
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>>73042253
>not going to college parties
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>>73038720
>Drug prohibition has failed. We need to legalize drugs and treat people
>Let's begin prohibition on cigarette because it will work.
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>>73042354
Its not about defending cigarettes, it is about defending businesses and people rights.
>>73042297
>being this butthurt over not having a counter-argument
>>73042438
This. It is just a waste of everyone's time and money.
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>>73042253
college parties are the best place to get laid. i go to my local state university on friday nights after buying a big bottle of whatever and am more than welcome, no questions are asked

t. soon to be 26 year old
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>>73042422
Oh, I hold no illusions that all except the willfully blind dislike niggers, I was expressing my surprise towards his contempt towards Native Americans. I assumed he would really have no reason to know or care about their history, but he did in spades, and he *hated* them.
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>>73039770
NO PORK
NO DOGS
NO NON MUSLIMS
The future is bright inshallah
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>>73042543
You still have a right to smoke

Should children be allowed to smoke because its their right?
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>>73038720
It violates female autonomy to decide for her what she can deepthroat, whether it's dick or cigars.
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>>73039241
>>73039698
>can also do gang bang porn with a pack of niggers and have it spread all over the internet
but no smoke after sex
have to wait 3 years
because they love you.
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>>73038720
Calling it, smoking profits are going to sky rocket in cali.
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>>73042612
Yes, children should be allowed to smoke.
>>73042544
Why don't you just find a woman you actually plan on starting a family with? College party sex is a good way to get STDs.
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>>73042599
Well that's interesting. They did migrate from Asia originally, thus they are "Asiatic" in that sense (slightly slanted eyes for example).

It could be that people have a stronger dislike for races that are similar to theirs but slightly different, as opposed to races where there are dramatic differences.

Possibly because similar races tend to be located close geographically, and thus compete for the same resources and the same women
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>>73039838
No one would ever die of tobacco use if we locked everyone in padded cells.
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>>73038720
I remember when they put it up from 16 to 18 here. Must have pissed off a few 17yo addicts.
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>18 year olds can't drink and smoke
>"free country"
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>>73042612
18-20 year olds aren't legally children faggot.
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>>73042839
t. Alberto Barbosa
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>>73040424
Isn't that exactly what smokers are doing?
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>muh individual rights

Smoking doesn't only hurt you.
It also hurts the people around you. You should ban it for that alone.

Personally i don't give a fuck if you want to decrease your own health and personal lifespan - Means more to do for me. But don't let other people live in your smog.
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>>73039820
>implying people start smoking at the legal age
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Been smoking since 16 and never had a problem finding a paki gas station willing to sell to underage
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>>73042771
I'm not interested in starting a family with anyone, unless its with someone from Eastern Europe with conservative values, which we don't have where i am currently living
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>>73039838
This is true, because what makes it true is that everyone surely buys their cigarettes legally?
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>>73042839

>mudslime country
>free
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>>73040443
>state of 500 people
>state of 30 million people
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>>73042969
>a
>fucking
>leaf
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>>73038720
>Cigarettes classify as Schedule 1 Controlled Substance by the rating scale.

>Kept legal for taxes.

Like anybody gives a fuck what the government says about either smoking or drinking ages.
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Koreans are gonna riot
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>>73042916
>muh collective society where I have to care about other people's health
>implying a little whiff of cig smoke will hurt you as you're walking down the street

The only time this argument holds up is in enclosed areas, but that's banned usually.
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>>73042610
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>>73043031
will there be enough rooftop Koreans to protect us?
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> banning alcohol

We tried that. Didn't work so good.
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>>73042916
Shame you don't apply that policy to letting in 2.3million '''''Syrian''''' '''''child''''' '''''refugees''''' isn't it?

I imagine you'll be worrying about a different kind of smoke soon enough.
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If smoking was approved by the Jew, why is literally every law passed against it?
It's because cigarettes are a symbol of white men in the early 20th century, when men were masculine. The Jews don't want to remind you of those times, and that's why WW2 isn't taught as well as it should be in schools, and cigarettes are discouraged.
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>>73040069
>smoking is a fad

Try it and say that again.
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>>73042412
thanks for the advice i was gonna buy a canon rebel but the eos and for my understanding that one doesn't have video
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>>73043090
Passive smoking is more dangerous than active smoking.
>>73043143
Sup New-Pakistan.
Atleast here we don't teach our kids Shariah law in school yet.
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>>73042880
>>73042969
>confused by the perspective of someone from a country that doesn't treat it's people like children, the citizens of the North American nanny states can only respond in memes
I feel sorry for you drones

I'm going to enjoy my legal drinking today
t. 20 year old who can legally drink and smoke
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>>73040802
Why wouldn't they? What flag WOULD they have? Dummy.
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>>73042947
So is that it? Your ancestors genetic line ends with you, while third worlders with near retarded IQs out breed you?
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>>73038720
>be 23
>some of my friends are under 21

40 fucking keks
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>>73043274
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>>73038720
Consider the following:
>no class 3 firearms for civvies, this means no: silencers, sbrs, etc.
>no .50 bmg
>AR-10s are banned for no reason besides muh firepower, yet other .308s are fine
>pistols need LCIs and lockouts for when the mag is out
>All gun sales are documented and stored in a database, never to be destroyed
>gun stores are all but closed down, even in highly populated areas
>mag limit is 10
>semi-auto rifles require bullet buttons
>state wants to make bullet buttons illegal, and require a full disassembly of lower to allow reloading
>allows illegal immigrants to get drivers licenses

But oh no, muh tobacco!
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>>73042947
>wants a whore for a wife

Anon you're an American, just grab the white girl down the street, you don't even need to go to yurop.
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>>73039838
>Implying kids will stop smoking because its illegal.

Shit man I think I smoked less when I turned 18. Still get the occasional packet but I was a regular smoker 16-18, illegality changed nothing.
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>>73043274

Then the Sharia police find you and your arm gets cut off.
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>>73043351
I'm not 100% white, so i figured (You) would approve. I come from a yuge family so I don't really care about having any kids

>>73043455
>implying i am not only here for business purposes and am NOPE-ing the fuck out if Clinton sends America into a dystopian, brown, no-guns, no-free speech future
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>>73043455
You need to find a virgin from a rural midwestern area, unless you want to be kissing chads semen from your girlfriends lips.
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>>73043235
You smoke more than us.
You have more muslims than us.
You're despised throughout Europe more than us.
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Why do people smoke again?

What do you gain from it?
I don't get it. It seems like something only a retard with no foresight would do.
>here let me spend thousands of dollars on this absolutely worthless stick of chemicals while I fuck up my body slowly because ______?????
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>>73043661
Anti psychotic, anti depressant and appetite suppressant.

Not that its worth it but those are some of the reasons people do it.
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>>73043661
All that supposedly better-than-the-US education and you still don't understand what pleasure receptors are?

Really?
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>>73041032
thats becuase it was full of degenerates and needed to be gutted
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>>73043661
You don't get it because you have autism.
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>>73043661
eat a dick faggot, your opinion doesnt matter
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>>73043453
>no class 3 firearms for civvies, this means no: silencers, sbrs, etc.
true
>no .50 bmg
true
>AR-10s are banned for no reason besides muh firepower, yet other .308s are fine
grandfather clause
>pistols need LCIs and lockouts for when the mag is out
no?
>All gun sales are documented and stored in a database, never to be destroyed
tinfoil
>gun stores are all but closed down, even in highly populated areas
completely false. theres 4 open in my town.
>mag limit is 10
true but no one follows this
>semi-auto rifles require bullet buttons
only those with removable magazines
>state wants to make bullet buttons illegal, and require a full disassembly of lower to allow reloading
this ones true. unfortunately.
>allows illegal immigrants to get drivers licenses
beaners man.
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>tobacco industry one of few industries not run by Jews
>get surprised when it gets banned
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>>73043925
>>pistols need LCIs and lockouts for when the mag is out
>no?
Yes. Handgun manufacturers trying to get their guns on the CDOJ approved roster must comply, so new pistols require those features.

>>All gun sales are documented and stored in a database, never to be destroyed
>tinfoil

"All handgun serial numbers and sales are recorded by the state (registered) in the Department of Justice’s Automated Firearms System. While there is no requirement for California residents to register previously owned handguns or firearms with law enforcement, §12025 and §12031 enhance several misdemeanor offenses to felonies if the handgun is not on file in the Department of Justice’s Automated Firearms System. California §12025 states that handguns must be transported unloaded and in a locked container other than the glove compartment or utility box in a motor vehicle. A "locked container" is further defined to mean "a secure container which is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, key lock, combination lock, or similar locking device". New residents must register handguns (purchased outside of California) with DOJ within 60 days.

As of January 1, 2014 Long gun serial numbers are now recorded, where as previously only the sale was recorded. However, it is not required that long gun owners register their firearms and it is not a crime to be in possession of an un-registered firearm."
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>>73043783
>b-but it feels good
Gas yourself you filthy degenerate.

Also, not an argument. Before you've tried it you shouldn't know if it feels good or not. Only a retard with no foresight and no personality would start smoking.

I bet you're a smoker, you filthy retarded degenerate.
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>>73042612
Good thing 18 year olds are adults in the legal sense and when you're talking about laws that is all that matters.
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>>73039808
my health insurance costs say otherwise
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>>73043379
>>73043508
Funny memes drones
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>>73044164
In 23 years, I have smoked a grand total of 3 cigarettes. Not 3 packs. Not 3 cartons. Three cigarettes. I don't enjoy smoking, so I don't smoke. Stop being an uppity cunt and realize that there are valid reasons as to why people choose to smoke.
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>>73044164
>Gas yourself you filthy degenerate.
That edge. Did you have a bad day anon?
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Reminder that I'm running for state legislator here and I'm going to make it illegal for Californians to buy property here.
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>>73044243

Price of freedom you commie faggot
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>>73044265

FUNNY POST AHMED!
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>>73044433

Chad fucked his body pillow
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>>73044164
>Also, not an argument. Before you've tried it you shouldn't know if it feels good or not.
Oh god, I missed this gem. Actually, saying that you found pleasure when you finally tried it would be considered ANECDOTAL evidence, which could be argued against easily. The reasons behind the enjoyment of smoking are well-documented. Claiming this bullshit about it 'not being an argument' only continues to paint you as a retard.
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Yeah but dude... weed.
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>>73038720

1) Nothing wrong with me
2) Nothing wrong with me
3) This is pure communism
4) It didn't stop 15 year olds from smoking when 18 was the bar, it won't stop 18 year olds when 21 is the bar
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>>73042894

Indeed it is, anon. Indeed it is... Along with everyone around them.

They need to speed up the process tho.
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>>73044194
18 years is the age arbitrarily decided upon by the state. 21 was the age of majority for a long time in many US states, and different countries around the world use different ages as the age of legal majority. Just like the age at which one can drive and the age of consent varies from place to place, it's not something set in stone, and different rights can be granted at different times. It's like saying 18-year-olds are "adults" so should be able to run for Senate.
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>>73044536
Finally someone who gets that the Portuguese are subhuman nigger animals.

Good on you leaf-bro.

>>73044820
Nice one kebab
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>>73041508
>It will stop the average goy public high schooler from smoking.

No it won't. Leave your basement before opening your dumb yap
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>>73044820
>1) Nothing wrong with me
>2)Nothing wrong with me

LET THE BODIES HIT DA FLO
LET THE BODIES HIT DA FLO
LET THE BODIES HIT DUH

RRRRRRAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHH
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>>73044243
So it's okay to make women illegal because of breast cancer?
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>>73038720
Good. Smoking is a degenerate threat to our racial health. When my sis and I got caught with trying out a cig, we got a hundred rods each, since then not a puff. I think we should implement corporal for smoking. In Old Russia it was the case.
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>>73045205
>Good

Of course a soviet would agree.
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Honestly, smokers piss me off. They do. I hate the fucking smell and think it's a goddamn waste of money...

Now that being said...

It pisses me off even MORE than liberals are so fucking thin skinned that they pass laws against things they don't like and reduce the freedom of this country. If a motherfucker wants to poison his body that's his own business.

>inb4 socialized heathcare costs!
That's a fucking stupid liberal law as well.
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>>73045205
That's right, obey your superiors will and they will treat you right!
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>>73038720
Good

smoking is degenerate anyway.
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You can legally suck a nigger cock at a bus stop when you're 8 (your're an evil raciss if you don't), but tobacco is degenerate.

t. California

p.s. You're totally a faggot if you don't want to suck dick. I mean a big flaming gay faggot. Everyone in Cali sucks cock. Are you special? Are you a raciss? Didn't think so, cocksucker.
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>>73045486
Looks like somebody doesn't like freedom
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>>73038720

But DUDE WEED should be legal, right?

Fucking liberals.
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>>73045405

It poisons those around them too though.

I agree on liberals and their hypocritical destruction of freedom, I think cigs (and everything else) should be legal... but smoking cigs shouldn't be legal in public spaces due to being a legitimate, proven, real hazard to others.
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>>73045815
>It poisons those around them, too!
And I didn't bitch about those laws.
This is just fucking retarded, though.
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>>73045815
>It poisons those around them too though.

>I want big, strong mens to come save me from myself!!!

Faggot.
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>>73045679
I live in San Francisco and the only time I've ever seen cocksucking here is at the folsom street fair (google it).
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>>73046142
>google it

no thanks, this is /pol/ not /lgbt/
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>>73039428
It's California, what did you expect? I'm waiting for that hell ridden state to fall off the US.
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>>73046142
> I live in San Francisco

Good for you?

Can we hear a story about that one girl in the tenth grade who was so silly she thought she loved cock more than you??
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>>73045858

I never said you did. I don't use exclamation points either.

>>73046088

Your logic is flawed.

Also... Lick my sack
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>>73039838
>It's been shown that people who don't start smoking at around the age of 18 will be less likely to start later on.

do you really think most of these kids just start smoking out of the blue right when they turn 18? I bet you believe kids under 21 don't drink either.
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>>73046495
>Lick my sack

Faggot.
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>>73040573

Where are you that you're around smokers? If you say a bar then you need to fuck off and stay home because it's a FUCKING BAR
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>>73046570
Don't try reasoning with a retard, it is like administrating medicine to the dead. He will take his stupid anti-freedom beliefs to his grave.
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>>73039838
>It's been shown that people who don't start smoking at around the age of 18 will be less likely to start later on.

It's also been shown that men who get laid before 20 have a 36000% less chance of sucking dick out of desperation for human affection.
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>>73046570

You said that.

>>73046725

Your logic is flawed.
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>>73046725
t. faggot.

You argue like a girl.
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>>73047090
>Your logic is flawed.

You catch.
Logic is beyond your comprehension.
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>>73047123
>>73047217

Not very bright, are we?

>>73046725

I believe in more freedom than your feeble mind can handle, son
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>>73045405
even without mandatory insurance it pushes up healthcare costs. The smokers who do have insurance push up the price of insurance directly. Anyone without insurance ends up using the ERs as go-to clinics, and doctors are legally and ethically required to give them some basic care before shoving them out, even if they can't pay. Sure, they'll get bill collectors after them, but if they can't afford insurance in the first place, what good will that do? Thus, the hospitals must eat those costs, and they try to make it up from the people who can pay, or more commonly from those people's insurance companies, and that raises prices for the rest of us.
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>>73039972

Are you having a meltdown?
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>>73042916
Smoking in restaurants is already banned.

I have honestly not had to suffer any second hand smoking since they enacted those bans.
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>>73038720

good. smoking is bad.

I support anything that prevents it.

I gave up 6 weeks ago, cigs were 28 dollarydoos a pack here in aus
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>>73044324
3 cigarettes isn't enough to sway opinion on it... It's great you don't smoke but you don't start getting addicted to them until at least 10 packs in. The flavor changes and the kick is more noticeable...You have to really let the nicotine in and change your brain chemistry.
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And as we know from the drinking age being 21, no teen will ever smoke (or drink) again.
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>>73040335
False equivalence.

First, clean electric car is introduced, so no emission in the city (future energy generation will be clean fusion power).

Second, vehicles are necessary in many cases to get from point A and B, to transport things etc. while smoking has no legitimate benefit that can justify it. In contrast, the nicotine Jew is directly inhaled into your lungs, it destroys your own body, the one of others, contaminates your environment, results usually in garbage on the streets almost everywhere, costs a lot of money that could be spend for something reasonable etc.
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>yfw they soon raise the age of consent law to 21, forcing you to stick with shitty used-up, institutionalized, broken older women.

>No more teen pussy.
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>>73045251
>corporal discipline
>Old Russia
Have anything to do with communism. You were skipping school right? Society tried to eradicate physical discipline tradition and were very lax in smoking. >>73046534
That's the point. You need to make them busy, entertained and invested in sport and health improving activities.
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>>73040069
Looks like someone tell for the above the influence meme. Was it the catchy techno music? The cool young guys?

Laaawwwlllll
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Lol commiefornia
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>>73041362
How successful is the war on drugs? Or how successful was prohibition?
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>>73051535
This tbqh. I would rather fall on my sword that resort to some old hag.
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>>73039241
>Leaf smoke
I seriously hope people do not believe this shit
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DUDE STATISM LMAO
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Man, I remember buying cigarettes when I was 14 and no one batted an eye. Times have changed. Damn. It's for the best, though.
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I started at 15 and always got my ciggies

People will find a way if they want what they're addicted to
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>>73042051
Nah but Tins cunt
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>>73052000
It is extremely successful in Singapore (and in some Islamic countries).

Prohibition would work perfectly, because people usually only drink in public. So if they cannot drink in public, they will practically not drink at all. Of course it is a long-term process, you also need to accomplish a cultural change against the cosumption of the alcoholic Jew.

The only reason why prohibition did not work is because Jews did not want it to work.
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Okay. Time to raise the age of majority.
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>>73052665
inshallah, my friend
soon the west will be ours
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>>73042354
There is literally no reason to defend the fucking State telling a taxpaying adult what they can put into their own bodies.
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>>73042354
>defend Cigarettes


>defending cigarettes
>defending the right for a legal adult to purchase cigarettes

Two different matters. Kill yourself. Immediately. Please. Please? Pretty please.
Why don't you kill yourself? Stupid people like yourself don't deserve to breathe the same air as me.
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if only they would raise the minimum voting age, they would actually do something useful
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I can see the consequences for commiefornia already

>Raise smoking age
>lower # of smokers
>lower healthcare cost in the long term!

However, this is how commiefornia will do it

>Raise smoking age
># of smokers will be reduced
>Oh shit, tax revenue is going down, what could be the cause?!?!
>More taxes!!!
>"In recent news, the governor of california passed a new bill, now there is an oxygen tax, everyone must report to designated FEMA facilities for O2Max testing"
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>>73052665


Maybe in faggot villa over there, but no chance in hell here.

Prohibition did not work because we like drinking far, far too much. It single handedly created organized crime in the usa and was widely ignored and broken on every level.

If prohibition was tried today there would be riots and insurrection. Seriously.
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>>73052665


Btw drinking in public has been on the decline and under attack in the usa for years and years. But alcohol use and abuse rises every year. Compare nuber of liquor licenses by year. To say nothing of dui laws and bartender liability laws, etc.
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>>73052665
Jews were the ones who helped get prohibition up and running because it was an anti-german law. Prohibition was meant to do what banning weed to blacks did but to germans and their beer companies. Jews were behind it all along. Back then every alcohol company was owned by germans here.
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>>73053032
Born and raised Californian here, I've been smoking sense i was 9, I'm 30 now. None of what you said is true. The state will actually make more from the fibes of those 18-20 year olds.
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>>73038720
Does a person have a right to make decisions regarding his/her own body? Abortion ban when?
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>>73053229
>Prohibition did not work because we like drinking far, far too much. It single handedly created organized crime in the usa and was widely ignored and broken on every level.
But the question is why do you like to be addicted with the alcoholic Jew so much, even if it totally destroys your body and brain?

Look at the culture which is obviously controlled by Jews (just look at the ownership of the biggest Hollywood studios) then you will realize that alcohol is promoted heavily which is again supported financially by the alcohol industry.

Also, you can make alcohol illegal step by step if you want. First step would be to truly enforce an alcohol ban under the age of 21 - with life time prison for anyone who provides alcohol to people from that age group. Then ban any form of display in movies, TV shows etc. Totally indoctrinate the chldren about the alcoholic Jew in schools. And then constantly increase the age limit to be allowed to drink alcohol.

If there is a will, there is a way. But there is no way, because there is no will. Jews want to destroy your body and dumb you down mentally and spiritually. You should become addicted drunken animals.
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>looking through the minor parties for the upcoming election in australia
>fine one party that sounds fairly decent but then..
>We're going to make it illegal for anyone born after 2000 to buy cigarettes
What?

Whatever happened to freedom of choice?

>b-but it's bad for you

So what? so's sitting on a couch, so's softdrinks, so's islam

Don't see anyone banning those..
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>>73039572
>tfw no future space loli nazi team to run around with and beat up smokers
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>>73047774
What do you think of cigars(no inhale) friend?
I want to be a symbol of white male patriarchy and corporate greed later in life, and cigars are an important part of the image!
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>>73042424
>Implying you ever did.
Nice try weeb.
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>>73053306
But also the culture is in decline.

If Jews promote cultural degeneracy, hedonism and individualism at the same time, it is obvious that those laws will not work.

You can easily eliminate any crime nowadays if you really want, because we have completely new surveillance measures. But the Jew wants crime, because crime destroys social cohesion and creates conflicts. So you can be ruled even better.

>If prohibition was tried today there would be riots and insurrection. Seriously.
Then just execute all those degenerates. We may need a nice purge of those addicted subhumans.
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>>73053627
Not if their decisions impact on others. e.g. requiring a higher health budget for the nation (smoking), or polluting the genepool (abortion).
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>>73053852
Lol do you seriously believe in evil Jews controlling the minds of the common people?
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>>73042354
It's called population control if people are too stupid to not put poison in their bodies they should die not have the state hold their hand.
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>>73053892
Kys
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>NEVER QUESTION YOUR LIBERAL LEADERS
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>>73038720
Raising legal age for cigarettes and smoke
Lower legal age of consent

They really want their goys to be perma children

Brave New World
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>>73054799
cigarette and alcohol*, I mean
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>>73054398
The problem is in most countries other people pay for their healthcare.
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>>73039707
BAN ASSAULT CIGARETTES
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Tfw I only smoke to die young. But here in aus in 4 years a pack will cost 40 didgeridollars.

Guess I have to die old then and see Australia get annexed by China
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>>73041738
but that's autistic
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>>73054244
PURREE COINCIDENCE GOYIM
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>>73038720

The state assembly does everything but attempt to fix their colossal, state destroying pension liability.
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>>73056298
It's insane to think that a group of people are systematically breaking down society for no real reason other than to acquire power.

people need no outside incentive to drink, smoke, and do drugs. these drugs sell themselves.
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>>73056709
>It's insane to think that a group of people are systematically breaking down society for no real reason other than to acquire power.
Here is your ultimate red pill
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Opium_War
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>>73055387
I think the oldest person in the world ever smoked cigarettes
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>>73056922
Its genetics as well I believe. Maybe my indo heritage, where they had tons of volcanoes back then allowed the people there to adapt and thus have stronger lungs.

Ami right or autistic literately just thought of this.
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>>73042051

>you can taste the metal in that shit

no you can't there's inner plastic lining, if you poor both beers into a glass they'll taste the same.
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Smoking is stupid, whatever. I guess you will have to eat lead paint to poison yourselves now.
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>>73053892
Do you have any idea how much kids cost?
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>>73043307
Vietnam, obviously. Go back to school pls.
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>>73051442
>econd, vehicles are necessary in many cases to get from point A and B, to transport things etc. while smoking has no legitimate benefit that can justify it
source?
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>>73039838
>implying kids don't smoke or drink
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>>73042610
Wallah
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>>73038720
D E G E N E R A T E J U S T L I K E D R I N K I N G.
T. B A S E D H I T L E R
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>>73042354
Like homosexuality and drugs, I think Cigarettes are degenerate as shit, but how you ruin your body is your business. Not mine, and certainly not that of the government.
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>>73038720
Good
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