http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TM651Y15_13/filters/SC_RACE:2
>Trump
12%
>Hilllary
>69%
Its over at this point. Blacks have the highest voter turnout among all voter demographics. Trump will need at least 30% of the black vote to win key swing states such as Virginia and Pennsylvania.
>>72940043
Are you even trying anymore?
>>72940043
>12% of black vote
>only needs 15%
This is somehow bad. Try harder kangaroo nigger
So weak. The polls already show that they are in a tie, and Trump hasn't even started going against Hillary. Trump is going to win in a landslide, and here you are talking about one poll that concerns only a small demographic of voters.
Fucking hell, you guys are desperate. So fucking desperate. At this point you can just drop the proxies and give up already.
>>72940043
>126 respondents
i use to support trump but after this im a cruzmissile now
>>72940135
This isn't 1988 anymore. Whites are only 70% of registered voters also blacks have higher turnout than whites. 30% of black voters will be needed if trump ever wants to crack the blue wall.
>>72940043
Go breathe the air in Hamilton you wanker.
>>72940256
>in a tie
>>72940416
Some polls show Trump winning, but in general it's a tie. It's a bit too early to say that Trump is leading.
>Trumps numbers matter in a 3 man race
One he's got the nomination, which he does now, then we can start our estimates now that Cruz and Kasich aren't screwing around with the polls. Same goes for Sanders.
Don't forget that he is on pace to get slaughtered in the female demographic. Clinton is going to secure a higher percentage of the woman vote than any candidate has seen since at least 1980 at this rate. And women make up a much larger percentage of the population than blacks do.
If Clinton can get women out to vote at a rate close to the rate blacks generally see, then it's over before it even begins.
>>72940644
>some polls show trump is winning
Like which ones? If Rasmussen was right R-Money would have been elected in a landslide. Just shut up you delusional cuck.
>>72940644
>>72940416
The latest poll has Clinton up by 13%.
>>72940256
>in a tie
>>72940368
Kiwi Kek
>>72940043
Why do black voters matter? They are only 13% of the population. Trump needs to win over the white majority, and then grab the fringe asians.
>>72940749
Wow, you sure are mad, shill.
What do you think you're accomplishing here? Telling someone who doesn't even live in US that Trump isn't going to win? That's not what the polls show. You aren't going to influence the election, why are you here lying about it? You will not make any difference.
>>72940043
Except republicans have record high turnout(like 3x normal), and democrats at record lows.(like 1/3)
I expect Trump to easily get 60-65%
>>72940879
Completely irrelevant. The GOP had a very competitive primary with many candidates, so of course more people turned out to vote. The Democrats only had two serious candidates, but even then Clinton was the presumed frontrunner the whole way through. Therefore, less people voted.
I just read that Trump's popularity among blacks is like 3-4 times that of Dubya and McCain. And Bush got elected (at least once!) so I don't see how Trump's game's over.
>blacks vote 96% for obama in both years
>thinking they will give the slightest fuck once dey nigga is out
You seem to be under the delusion that this wasn't all part of Trump's plan.
Now comes the part where he crashes Clinton's minority demographics... with no survivors
>>72941077
It's not just blacks. He's also popular with women. The hispanic support is on the lower side, but still higher than expected.
People are not going to continue to support a woman who thinks defending child rapists is funny. Once the information comes out that she's responsible for a lot of deaths she's going to get destroyed.
Even though Trump appears to be winning, these numbers don't matter because Trump has so much dirt on Hillary that she will have to leave the race and flee the country.
Romney won 6% of the black vote. Anything more than that is a great performance. I predict that Trump will win around 15% of the black vote, putting states like FL, VA, OH, and maybe even states PA and MI into his column.
>>72940043
>Blacks have the highest voter turnout among all voter demographics.
fucking kek, only for Obama.
Imagine this. Unlikely, but Trump is the strongest in the Midwest and Northeast.
How many more black votes would he get if he nominated Ben Carson as his VP?
>>72940347
Yeah blacks have a higher turnout than whites, the two years that had a charismatic black candidate in the general. You're fucking deluded if you think black voters are going to turn out in 2008/2012 numbers for Hillary Clinton.
>>72941460
This makes my stomach churn, because if we don't win PA and MI (very well might not) it will literally be 269-269 and we'd have a CONTESTED PRESIDENTIAL CONVENTION. EVERY VOTE IS UNBOUND ON THE 2ND BALLOT.
Either way it fell, whatever reps went against the state would literally get murdered.
PA alone could shift this election to a Trump win.
Although, I do consent that the odds are against Trump becoming president.
Did you hear what Hillary said about putting coal factories out of business? Well, that will be an attack ad in states like OH + PA, which economically rely on coal.
>>72941478
honestly, very few. As dumb as niggers are, they will vote dem no matter what. They could run Hitler, and we run MLK as a repub, and they'd vote hitler.
>>72941328
>He's also popular with women
Trump is reviled by women
>>72941589
Tell that to Bernie Sanders.
>>72940860
>Still not answering which polls other than Rasmussen show Tru pm ahead of Clinton
>Calling other people shills
Your desperation is showing, and it's quite embarrassing
>>72940749
>R-Money
Reddit shill. Just because you say cuck doesn't mean you blend in.
>>72941460
>WI
>MN
>MI
>IA
>PA
>red
>>72941691
Where did you get that idea? That one poll that shitposters posted here for a few weeks?
>>72941591
I think this is the most likely draw scenario
>>72940879
>thinking primary results are in any way reflective of the general election
Most states have like 10-15% voter turnout in primaries, m8.
>>72941601
Trump supporters seem to be under the collective delusion that PA is in play. It's not. PA has not gone red since 1988 and it isn't going red in 2016.
>>72941591
> Contested presidential convention
That's called the House of Representatives, buddy. They aren't just unbound, they can vote for people who aren't even running.
Paul Ryan could be made president on November 9th.
>>72941758
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/05/03/gop_tries_to_salvage_support_among_women_130460.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/31/politics/donald-trump-women-poll-numbers/
>>72941771
>NV
>IA
>red
>>72940043
the black vote doesn't matter. you do realize that the blackest states have the longest voting record for republicans
>>72941771
we can get ohio
>>72941750
I know it's unlikely. I'm just playing around with the maps. Iowa could go either way though. There are a lot of whites, especially evangelicals, in Iowa who are dissatisfied with the Democrats after Obama.
>>72940043
This is some serious shitposting.
>>72940043
Black people aren't going to turn out like they did in 08 and 12. I live in a black majority county in Georgia and they blame Mexicans here for the lack of jobs. Op is delusional.
>>72941758
>>72941819
Also
>>72941809
>they can vote for people who aren't even running
Not true. The constitution requires that they select someone who won electoral votes.
>>72941803
It went for Obama by only 5.5 percentage points. That's a very narrow margin. It's a fairly white state which could shift if Trump could win the so called Reagan blue collar Democrats.
>>72940416
She was leading by 25 points in the polls. What happened? :^)
>>72940043
lmao no they dont. white males have the highest. even in 2008 . obama wasnt swept into office by black people thats a myth
>>72940717
>If Clinton can get women out to vote
She can't, though. Women don't care and she can't convince them to care.
>>72941809
what? You made no sense. Yeah, it's both houses of congress that cast the 578 votes. 100 senators and 478 reps. Every senator and rep is unbound on the 2nd ballot. It'd be pandemonium.
Fun fact. Thomas Jefferson was elected after 36 ballots at a contested presidential convention lasting over 3 days.
>he'll need to win over hillary voters
How the hell do you do that?
>>72940332
The Cruz bots haven't been unplugged yet.
If you think black turnout for Clinton will look anything like what it did for Obama, you're dreaming. She'll win on the percentages, but I wouldn't be surprised if Trump gets near to a quarter of those who do vote and they are going to be a much smaller sliver of the electorate at large.
>>72940043
>Blacks have the highest voter turnout among all voter demographics.
Obama isn't running this time, so this is a naive expectation.
>>72940799
Source?
Hillary literally just needs Virginia and the chances of Trump winning are demolished.
One large swing state translates into a Hillary win.
>>72941977
>only 5.5 percentage points. That's a very narrow margin
>>72941914
>Every group majority hates him
Why did he keep winning even when it was only a few candidates? How the hell did the Repubs have more voter turn out?
>>72941202
Oh lawdy, is dat sum Trump promisin' mo' money fo' dem programs?
>>72941819
Flawed polls. GOP is anti-Trump, which is something to consider when GOP is talking about ''salvaging support among women''. They don't want support from women because Trump is not their guy. They're just putting out the idea that they are struggling to get women to vote for Trump. What a joke.
And CNN polls? Might as well take Buzzfeed polls into consideration.
>>72942175
>only VA
>gave her PA, NH, and NV as well.
All of those are swing states, trust me.
>>72941589
blacks get bused to the pools to vote and are get a couple bucks thrown at them for their troubles, its the democratic way.
>>72942052
>it's both houses of congress that cast the 578 votes
That's not how it works, look up your own electoral college. It's sent to the house, the senate elects the VP. In the house each state delegation has to vote as one.
>>72941691
Yeah just like how most women hate Chad. But when they step in that ballot box their panties are mysteriously drenched. Its rich cool guy plus daddy love multiplied by mommy hate.
>>72942250
This. When's the last time Trump performed BELOW his polling? He's blown the polls out the last 3-4 primaries.
>>72941771
Utah is red as red can be, but the Mormons hate Trump. He won't win here.
>>72942256
VA, NH and NV are not swing states
>>72942250
>flawed polls
God this is going to be Romney 2012 delusions all over again x10
>>72942316
But will they vote for hillary?
>>72942316
In the national? You're kidding right? A bunch of hyper conservatives voting for Shillary the witch demon?
>>72942291
>when they step in that ballot box their panties are mysteriously drenched
>trumplets really think this
>>72940043
What is this pool even?
Where is it form?
Is it a random internet pool where are only young blacks and people posing as blacks just to show how blacks don't like trump or something?
>>72942428
>>72942411
They'll vote Johnson so Hillary will win on 39% or something.
>>72942068
Bringing up numerous scandals, especially ones that show her to not be such a friend of women?
>>72940043
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93ZqVBk57ks
Daily Reminder: The MSM are against Trump, 187 groups funded by Soros are against Trump and Trump is bulldozing over them all.
The conditioning is being broken. All naysayers are in stages 5 and 6 of the 7 stage trump grief scale.
>>72941771
I can see NY going red.
Upstate is super red. The city has Trumps name all over it. PA will go red because its rural as fuck outside if Philly
>>72942355
Nevada was Dem by 55k votes in 2012. Trump has specific vegas ties and is well received there.
NH was dem in 2012 by 40k votes, same story. Trump does great in the NE outside of Jew York
VA voted dem by 50.8% in 2012, a very very very slight majority. 50.8 isn't 'solid blue' by any stretch. It's just math, sonny.
>>72942355
I'm beginning to think that you don't even know what a swing state is. And a 5.5 percent margin is narrow. There are states that literally flip over 8% each election year. Take Indiana for example. Compare the result in 2008 and 2012.
I don't know if this kiwi's spouting the truth, but for fucks sake, learn a lesson from it. Please guys, if you support trump, VOTE FOR HIM. One day out of your life to determine the next 4 years isn't a bad deal.
You have a chance to prove this shill wrong, show up and vote, and don't be a lazy fat fuck who doesn't vote.
>>72942468
>UKuks not realizing their women are riding Chad cock.
>denying women are attracted to money and power
Ill take evolutionary psychology for 1000 Alex
>>72942568
NYC alone is insurmountable. NY votes dem at a 60+% rate as a whole, while upstate jew york votes 65% repub. It doesn't matter. Same as in PA and IL with Philly and Chicago. The huge cities vote Dem overwhelmingly and push it in tha tdirection
Don't forget Trump has the military vote.
The majority of retired and in service milfags will vote trump. Hell the whole reason I became a trumpet was after he skipped the debate to raise money for vets.
>>72942068
>>72942540
You do realize Democrats need 90% of the black vote right?
>>72940043
Don't make us do it, Kiwi-san,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xUYbI64QHI
(Rest of world, please excuse my retarded, inbred cousin.)
>>72942650
NYC has changed since the last election.
When the BLMs killed 2 cops in cold blood. Plus Trump has a lot of stake in NYC. New York went red for Reagan iirc.
>>72940043
I used to be for Trump but after hearing this I'm going basic for Kasich.
>>72940043
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78Q0y-Zj1Z0
>>72941202
Based trump killin it
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-swing-the-election/
This will help you visualize
>>72942275
So what's wrong with buying a few votes, anon?
I'm sure Trump could take something out of his monthly earnings to organize something likewise.
>>72942996
>kick up college educated white and non-college educated whites barely a few percentage points and the map goes overwhelmingly to Donald
>>72940043
12% is higher than any Republican in recent memory
>>72941914
>and NASCAR fans
Wtf when did this become a demographic
>>72942822
Donald Trump is New York in human form.
When he says he has a real chance there, he isn't kidding.
>>72940043
>The tears of you shills will be glorious
Trumps vetting his VP's after the GOP officially endorsed Trump. Insiders say Rubio is his first choice for many reasons including personal backstory, hispanic support,native of Florida and clout for foreign policy. Rubio is the Democrats worst nightmare aswell.
Gingrich is his second choice the only issue being that the Clintons probably have an armoury of secrets and dirt to dish out of their own against him comparable to the stuff that he has on her and Bill.
Trump/Rubio 2016?. He's warming up to it aswell judging by his compliments of Trump from a couple days ago. Though his aides say they are are false or misinterpreted.
>>72942673
Except that the majority of the time, the military votes aren't counted
>>72942540
And our fool media is mad at some priest calling Mohammed a rapist, saying that the man whose words were the inspiration for sharia could not be a rapist when rapists are to be stoned under sharia.
>Fucking your wife against her consent is totally not rape, guiz
>Raping a woman is totally not rape because you're married, guiz
>>72942540
I don't think you know how deluded people that far left are.
>>72941809
>>72941959
If they tie tie at 269 they need 270 electoral votes or a vote by the house of representatives where the person with the majority of states is president. If Trump is the tieing that means the republicans will have probably maintaine their edge in the house so he should get in. However with the electoral votes the electors don't have to be loyal so if Trump or Hillary gets 270 they get the presidency. A wqy for the repubs to cuck Trump out of office would be for some electors to defect from someone and vote for another candidate, so long as they are 3rd they are in the running in the house vote and could be elected as a compromise candidate.
>>72941841
In Virginia they definitetly do
White girl gang bashed by #blacklivesmatter
http://i.muchosucko.com/production/asset/url/130/364/crackergirlinaseaofblacks.mp4
Also on a side note the Irish were the first slave workers in America.
>>72942579
I can speak for Nevada, we're on Trumps side. The bean counters fucked up trying convince us that we want universal background checks.
The days of buying legislation are numbered. The people are aware their liberties are at stake, and support trump simply because he isn't part of the political perversion selling liberty to the highest bidder.
>>72943715
That makes no sense.
And even if it was true, we have more conus troops than oconus so fuck it.
>>72943697
Still think TrumoxCarson would be dank
>all that appeal to hyper Conservatives
>black vote
>much racist argument dies
Trump doesn't need Hillary supporters. He needs Bernie supporters, which he will get in spades. Many of them would rather vote Trump as a 'fuck you' to establishment Dems than vote for Hillary. Others will sit the election out or vote for some irrelevant third party leftist like Jill Stein.
>>72944200
I think this election will be the one that gets rid if the 2 party system. Libertarians have been shilling hard against Trump. Even people who don't like Trump don't want Hillary.
>>72940043
Aren't they like 12% of the entire US population?
Who gives a fuck?
>>72941841
this should actually concern you, since there is simply no way trump will win traditional blue states, and he is shaky enough already where that could cost him states like virginia.
goddamn /pol/ tears are gonna be delicious in november.
Trump really wants to win he'd choose a Black or Latino Female VP. It would make him appear to be less racist by the media, and it would clench the woman voters.
>>72944200
>>72944290
kek. babby's first election, eh guys?
>>72943697
There can be only one.
Just need to emphasize Webbs conservative viewpoints and his history as the secretary of navy, assistant secretary of defence and a war hero. Show that he was a Republican until the Establishment turned their back to him.
>>72940043
>12%
>Stumped
12% of blacks are smarter than OP
>>72944417
Why did he drop out so early? He was the only real democrat that everyone liked. Was it because Hilary bribed everyone to take out her only real primary opponent?
>>72941803
if you dont support trump why are you even here? The race is over cruz dropped out you know
>>72940332
I was once a Cruzmissile but now I'm Konvention Krashin with Kasich
>>72944351
No one here will concern themselves with the opinions of castrated eunuchs like yourself we have mined enough salt from cuckolds like you to last us through the shitstorm if it all goes tits up.
If it goes our way for a change you are well and truly fucked.
>>72944549
he knew the DNC was in Hillary's pocket, and I also think he realized that the democrat party as a whole has changed
>>72944854
the irony of this of course is that i am a married landowner with a white wife while you jerk off in your mom's basement.
how does it feel to know a "libtard" is accomplishing the things you never will?
>>72944974
Oh how wrong you are.
>>72944974
not him but you're still on 4chan despite having "made it"
why did you come back?
>>72941077
I think people are underestimating Trump's Black support.
On CNN and shit, they'll just brush off the notion, saying "Blacks for TRUMP? HA!". But have they ever talked to a nigger?
I don't mean a Negro PhD. I mean a nigger.
I live with them, I work with them, and they fucking LOVE Trump. They think he's insane, but they love him, and they think Hillary is a fucking bitch.
I have never in my life seen so much support for a Republican candidate from niggers. Some of the support isn't even informed. Like one guy at work who said "Yo man, he hate mexicans, so im votin fo dat nigga, i fuckin hate fuckin mexicans".
Regardless, expect a very strange Black vote this November.
>>72945039
i should add that the outcome of the election doesnt matter a whole lot to me, i'm from the boston area which tends to be immune/resistant to political hell/economic turmoil. it would just be sad to see the rest of the country vote themselves into irrelevancy again.
>>72945121
i never left-- i post from work. once you're here you never leave
one of the perks of not working a bitch job is you can shitpost all day if you feel like it
>>72944351
Look man, I understand your doubt
But there's a REASON Trump has been winning. It's not an accident. He has a method to his madness, he's going by a playbook. The same playbook that put him at the top of the world in business.
It's not an accident he rose to the top of a field of 17 candidates. It was inevitable, he simply out-skilled them. Just like he out-skills Hillary. This is going to be Mike Tyson vs. a 6 year old
Hillary is BARELY winning against an outright Communist. She's weak. Her campaign staff is full of diversity hires who don't know what the fuck they're doing. She's going to get killed
>>72941803
Almost every state is considered a swing state.
California, Jew York, Texas and Alabama are the only non-swing states I can name off the top of my head.
>>72945158
How much property do you own? want to make a bet i own more land than you?
>>72941877
Can confirm the same for northern New Jersey.
>>72945151
Black people arent voting for Trump you idiot
>>72940043
i saw on cnn last week that if trump can simply get 25-30% black vote and ADD to the fact they will simply not turn out like they did for obama for hillary.. he will win the election.
>>72945222
It's not a coherent campaign based on political savvy. The American people have been tired of so many false politicians and so absorbed into reality television that Trump is like a phenomenon for the disillusioned.
He brought a whole new level of mud-slinging to the table and the other candidates largely didn't really know how to respond. Jeb Bush probably did go hide somewhere to cry because of the hostile environment and speech he was under.
The reason why he's polling so high and getting voters is this reason alone. The man promises America a better future. That he'll single-handedly make new laws, bully politicans, (essentially) use executive action, and force Mexico to somehow pay for a big ass wall spanning ~1900+ miles.
But how many of these promises are grounded in reality? I live in NY and it's a mixed bag here. A lot of the blue-collar workers either hate or love Trump based on nationality or personal views. The financial sector on Wall Street scoff at his successes (Trump inherited a shit ton of money from his wealthy landlord father). Trump is the master of pumping his ego, schilling poor bastards out of their money, threatening to sue people (well almost anyone who insults or threatens him in some way), and pushing away all personal liability (I'll pay for any of my supporters' legal troubles if you hit one of the protestors-another lie).
Voting for Trump is like going to one of his casinos, pulling the lever on a slot machine, and expecting jackpot. The man only cares for himself. Why would he care about anything else? He's made himself into a internationally recognized brand. He's a winner. He wins for himself, not for some patriotism you think you see in him.
>>72946474
>He's a winner. He wins for himself, not for some patriotism you think you see in him.
Why can't you accept that this is a major component in all these contests. Show me an altruistic candidate, i'll show you a loser.
>>72946474
What you're missing is that Trump is hugely egotistical. He cars about legacy, and he isn't going to want his presidency remembered as ineffectual or corrupt. He's going to have to at least try to make good on what he's promised.
>>72940043
>black people vote
Only happened for Obama.
>>72946474
>The finance sector scoff at his success
Hahahahhahah this is how I know you're bullshitting or you work for some shitty leftist kumbaya firm.
>>72941803
All you predictors of trumps loss seem to think that nothing can change bcause things have been a way since 1992
Swings in the electorate happen a lot
>>72946743
That is true. All politicians are nasty scum. They are all flawed and not really the best to become president.
However, they're all flawed to varying degrees.
Trump, The Big Man, has mind of a schoolyard bully with a rich father. He's not a good idea to run a nation because businesses don't work the same way. You can't file for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy after failing to implement crappy ideas like Trump steaks, Trump Airlines, or even Trump dildos (his face impressed into the head of each phallus). Congress (that has a all-time low approval rating) needs to come to a concensus and all of those old men (who we hate but need to keep a nation running) are divided about him. Not to mention that such an open-mouthed, hostile president would destroy all diplomatic ties with the rest of the world.
Ahem. Clinton has fucked up repeatedly, with her emails sending out secret info, Benghazi (most of the crap to that was pinned on to her by wingnuts), and drinking from the Wall Street money tap. But...she does know how to work the government and get what she wants. She has experience and experience really does count.
Well, Cruz is already out of the race. BTFO.
Bernie Sanders might just keel over in office, something that ppl will want to take into account. He's also the most idealistic of the bunch but also promises newer, more progressive changes that everyone as a whole doesn't like. No one's sure if he's suited to become the face of the US, but a lot of the younger voters are jumping on his ship because they don't want to put up with Clinton's controversies and murkiness.
I might be wrong in my personal viewpoint and writings, so if anyone would like to contribute and inform me, please do so.
>>72947810
This argument is so weak.
You want to say he inherited money so that negates what he's done?
Well please tell me why everyone who wins the lottery doesn't have long lasting prosperous suscess.
You want to say he's not actually successful because he's tried things that have failed?
Get serious, literally everyone fails at shit. It makes it that much more impressive that he still has whatever amount of money he does, if you want to argue the $10billion. Show me 1 person who gas succeeded at everything.
>>72942015
That is one thing that I never see people talk about. Donald trump was losing by 20+ points just a few months ago. If he can keeps this momentum up and stats hitting Hillary on her wall street connections/ Hawkishness its fucking GG
Trump is not a success story. He had a rich also racist (against black people) daddy (Fred Trump). His daddy died in 1999, leaving an estimated $250-300 million fortune. Said fortune was said to have been divided to his children. Trump received a lump sum of $40 million to play with, a lowball estimate, given that he had received money throughout the years his father had been living.
Trump became the president of his father's real estate business early on. His father was the silent man behind him, giving him the cash needed to keep the business going, given his name was tainted in real estate circles for windfall profits and abuses. Donald was the front man, promoting the deals. No bank at that time expressed any confidence in him.
But, Trump continued on. He had his hundreds of millions, continued making deals. Probably pushing liability onto others when it went bad and profiteering when things turned out well (much like many unscrupulous businessmen). Given that corporations and businesses obfuscate their real earnings all the time due to our tax laws, no one really knows his real worth unless Trump shoots over his tax returns and all his financials for the past ~30+ years.
Trump's financial history is a real hodge-podge of crap. Negative income due to tax shelters. There's some evidence that his father loaned him millions for expenses and deals.
Black people like Hillary too, in fact they've liked her a lot longer than Obama.
At best Hillary's going to dip in support from younger black people who voted for Obama because history etc etc but older black people, especially older black women, can decide multiple states and they swing hard for Hillary.
>>72940043
>Blacks have the highest voter turnout among all voter demographics.
>Blacl voters
Going to need a reliable source on that Op
>>72941202
Its already started. At the warehouse I work at there had to be measures put in place by the management to prevent a black vs mexican race war from starting because of maga hats.
Blacks fucking hate the mexicans and are 100% for BUILD WALL.
>>72946474
I live in upstate NY. A company based near Rochester just fired 3000 people and moved jobs to Mexico.
That shit has been all over the news. Trump will win NY.
>>72941153
this desu
>>72940043
>blacks
>showing up to a polling office ever
As someone who works with a shit ton of blacks, I can tell you this; they never, EVER vote. Half of them think the entire process is completely rigged and don't want to take part of it, the other half are too stupid to find out where the polling office, or too poor to travel to get there.
>>72940043
>Niggers are voting for the party that gives them free shit
Well color me shocked.
>>72948167
It'd certainly be easier to make money if I started out with a hundred million in capital, a group of financial advisors, employees to sniff out good deals, and a pre-existing real estate company to use to get a crap-ton of experience before going on my lonesome.
That said, experience in business doesn't correlate with political savvy. All Trump seems to be doing is name-calling, putting out suggestions, and not bringing anything meaningful to the table.
Trump promises many things. Including Let's Make America Great Again! He's mastered the art of the deal so well that he's selling hot air to his supporters and they're lapping it up. Can anyone tell me any solidly grounded plans (with some basis in reality) that he has set forth to indeed make this nation great again? Otherwise from all that I can see, the man is selling you real estate that he's overvalued and filled with tawdry furniture, gold trimmings, and so much other crap that you can't see it as the low-income. crappy tenement housing that it really is.
that feel that u r in the middle of europe and hoping that trump wins and makes america great again
>>72948736
Ah, you're a shill I get it. How many focus groups did the talking points you're copy pasting go through?
>>72940043
>Blacks have the highest voter turnout among all voter demographics
>>72941914
That's actually quite promising. 19% of Democrats are open to Trump, as well as 29% of Hispanics and 21% of blacks.
Not to mention Hillary's unfavorables overlap with Trump's in many cases. Since both candidates are unfavorable, that doesn't necessarily mean Trump won't be getting a vote from someone who sees him unfavorably.
>>72949717
I just went to polifacts and googled up some of his family history, real estate history, and old papers. The family inheritance issue is a bit boggled because of the fact that no one knows how much it was worth nor how it was divided.
Also, Mr. Who Thinks I'm a Schill, focus groups? I'm not reading shit articles from think tanks or foundations and all that bs. I can smell that crap a mile away.
I don't see that you have a proper response to anything I've said other than hurr durr Schill. Now properly give me counterpoints on why I'm wrong.
Donald Trump: Start Me Up! Watch it now! Awesome!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oBze2CPbMPU
>>72945151
I was taking the bus the other day and a couple black guys were talking. One was a Hillary supporter and the other was full-on "we wuz kangz" telling his friend about how the Ancient Egyptians were black. He said that women were never meant to lead and that he'd vote Trump over Hillary.
>tfw organizing for Trump in Maryland
>playing the game on the highest difficulty setting in the country
The hard truth is that Clinton isn't going to do anything that benefits blacks. Trump will bring back serious jobs. That's it.
We'll see what happens. WISH ME LUCK /POL/!
>>72940416
>three weeks old
>>72949717
Tell me why you support Trump and why you think I'm a schill. A two sentence response is not a real response to anything. It's insipid and ignorant...much like yourself.
>>72950071
Reddit, pls stop
>>72950446
Here's where you're wrong. Serious jobs? The serious jobs like plumbing, bricklaying, construction, sanitation (80k+ with benefits in NYC), and HVAC work? All these jobs pay pretty well. It's the minimum wage jobs that suck and will always exist in any market. It's not realistic to change those.
And you say bring back? Like the factory jobs that moved elsewhere because it was unprofitable to do so in the US? Maryland has gone to hell after the companies abandoned it. No amount of wishing or organizing around Trump will bring those companies back.
I'll wish you luck though that Maryland does get revitalized in the future though. Not for Trump though. He's worse than all the other alternatives, no matter how unattractive those may be.
Blacks are just 10% of the population.
>>72950709
:) No brakes on this raep train. Choo Choo!
Seriously, you think I reddit? Is that supposed to be an insult? I'm a new arrival to /pol/ so I'm new fish, just bottling my frustrations with the current political crisis.
No but seriously, nobody refuted anyone of my points. It's like you guys never did any debating, poli sci, ap gov, or any government classes back in the day.
>>72951167
>newfag
Bahaha
>>72951352
Everyone laugh. I'm a fool, and a fool I shall be!
After, I'll just juggle in the corner. Watching. Waiting. You know what they say about killer clowns. Honk Honk!
>>72950833
Trump's trading policies will make it too expensive to import goods to America, the worlds largest consumer, forcing big companies ans factories to return to America in exchange for tax incentives.
Trump might as well just give up now because there is no chance he will win.
>>72951607
It's going to be a bloodbath. If Trump wants to keep any of his self respect at all he should stop campaigning right now and move to the Cayman Islands or something.
>>72951542
Good luck trying to get that through congress. I'm sure that's been tried before and there's a reason why that has failed (lobbyists lounging around foggy bottom on call to throw their millions at politicians to vote no). The trading policy change will never make it past the drawing board. Trump isn't really known to not really have a organized (coherent, clear, a view that he will unequivocally support) stance on anything.
As a result, nothing will change. Even is Trump is in, we still have our problem. A deadlocked Congress of retards who waste our taxpayer money on jet fare, yachts, cars, and escorts and take bribes from the richest corporations in the USA.
As a result, nothing will have changed. Companies will continue moving out.
>>72940043
>>72940135
>>72940347
Numbers make more sense than percents
>>72952023
Oh boy. And you need to throw in the angry definitely anti-Trump hispanic population in there.
On one hand, Mexicans are angry at Trump for calling them rapists, murderers, and criminals.
On the other hand, the non-Mexicans (if you've hung out with hispanic buddies), hate getting lumped together with the Mexicans.
If you push the percentages away and remember that the hispanic population in US that used to vote conservative a decade ago, they'll bring a sizeable force against Trump.
Pennsylvania voters 2016:
>Democrats: 1,652,863 total / 918,649 for Clinton
>Republicans: 1,573,338 total / 892,702 for Trump
It was a closed primary, which means Democrats who like Trump couldn't vote, nor independents. It's definitely close, but it would be hard to flip it red. Voting for a nominee is also not a guarantee that you will get the same turnout when actual voting for the presidency begins.
Here's the good news: much more people voted Republican than Democrat in the crucial swing state of Florida. Hillary did get slightly more votes than Trump, but by an extremely small margin. This could be a good sign.
>>72952367
You realize most Mexicans are under 18, right?
>>72952451
My nose if bleeding. I just facedesk'd that hard. Did you read what I wrote?
The hispanic population has been here for decades. A very large portion are illegal, yes, and normally cannot vote.
But their children, who are all over the social networks organizing against Trump, can vote.
We have to break it down even further. The naturalized latinos, a lot of who hate the illegal immigrants for giving them a bad name, will actually vote for putting up a border if that was an option. But they'd be on the edge of the fence (sorry for the bad idiom-mexican border) on voting for Trump because of his bad reputation.
Hispanics have always been a thing. How do you think Texas became a state? We stole it from the Mexicans. And when was that? 1835. That's why you see such a high percentage of people of hispanic racial profile on the west coast, those are probably Mexicans or the people who came the land route.
Others got on ships and are spread across the states, mostly staying on the coasts due to the constant influx of jobs.
