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Degeneracy, where do we draw the line?
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So, /pol/, there is this guitarist by the name of buckethead (pic related) and recently I have been growing fonder of his music. He can straight up shred or even entertain melodies by JS Bach. From a standpoint of degeneracy, this man only talks through a puppet and always wears a mask and will never reveal himself. Is he really degenerate /pol/? I have come to the conclusion that what he brings into this world has benefitted humanity more than his strange mental status has hurt it?
>anyone want to weigh in?
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dude bucket head nice
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plz just let me smoke weed and be an atheist and i'll go along with /pol/ on everything. even voted for trump
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Will commence bump with Buckethead music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVVCavjaltM
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>>72925029
>>72925133
If you don't have autism, you should be able to consume/appreciate media that doesn't necessarily 100% mesh with your ideologies.

For example, Santana is one of those annoying liberal "ayy la raza back to aztlan mi gente mehico #1" spics but I can't stop listening to his work in spite of the fact.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QupS8MIA-MQ
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>>72925227
Agreed.
I like Napalm Death, but hate antifa faggots with a burning passion.
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>>72925227
I can agree with your point. It seems that 9 times out of 10 the general consensus on this board is that we stand for nationalism. With nationalism is it not allowed to appreciate what other cultures bring to the table as well?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adV8-_hgL4g
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>>72925029
Listening to Colma as I type this
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>>72925029

Nothing wrong with wanting to keep a low profile, if I had a talent like him I'd probably do the same.
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Nottingham Lace cmon bro
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>>72925029
Are you JUST listening to him? He's been around for quite some time, anon.
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What exactly is
>degenerate
about Buckethead?
Likely he's just a shy autist
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he's not degeneracy he is the victim of degeneracy

imagine if Mozart grew up in late 20th century burgerland
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>>72925786
I realize this, and yes he was more of a recent discovery for me. Glad I can enjoy it now at least...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cG5SjwR4UM
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>>72925029
>>72925133
Thanks dude, this is great
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>>72925928
We haven't even begun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogytGbt9rrk
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>>72925029
Why don't you form your own opinion like a grown ass man and not worry about whether a bunch of fat cunts on /pol/ approve of a musician you enjoy or not.
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>>72925029
We shouldn't judge artists based on looks and behavior and judge them on the quality of their music.
And buckethead's music is fucking great.
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>>72925029
dude shreds it on twat idgaf if hes degenerate or not
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>>72925029
He had his face on one of his many albums awhile back, also, buckethead is cool, but Guthrie Govan is cooler
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>>72926071
I actually stated my conclusion in my post, but its okay, youre probably one of those aboriginals or something and couldnt read that part.
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>>72925227
His anti-trump Facebook posts piss me off but I still enjoy his music
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Why do you care what the biggest retards on the Internet think? Just enjoy the music, fuckwit.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8G5zkeJJ4LU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaDQaPoLyDY
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>>72926228
Citation needed

>>72926314
youre here man!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neZNrCDppGU
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lR1tt24mo4
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>>72926402
For guthrie govan's superiority or buckethead's face? Here's both
https://youtu.be/lNKE4dDQCDg

Buckethead was dumb though, he should've stuck with guns n roses or gone with ozzy osborne.
Dough > preserving your artform
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>>72925029

go to bed Buckethead
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>>72926594
Pretty sure Ozzy Osbourne told him he couldn't wear the mask and bucket.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVCOKbYKQm8
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>>72925029
Evaluating art, such as music, for the "messages" or for things unrelated to the art (ie the custumes, the personality of the artist) is the very defination of degenerate art.

It's the type of thinking that justifies a blank canvas (because it's being evaluted for the "message") or a shitty work because a Muslim Feminist did it (evaluating it for the person behind it)

The only acceptable criteria for good art is the art itself. Shredding complex music like Bach is by defination good art no matter who is doing it, what meaning is behind it, or other things unrelated to the art itself.

In this regard metal is one of the highest forms of musical art as it is the only genre that really approaches the classics in terms of complexity and depth. The fact that the lyrics might be about something "edgy" or the musicians dress strangely is irrelevant.
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>>72926695
confirmed

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/ozzy-osbourne-says-ex-guns-n-roses-guitarist-buckethead-auditioned-for-his-solo-band/
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this is Buckethead's secret best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfZZ0mqMqOg
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>>72926822
I agree completely with this.
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OP is a example why the right blows and will continue to blow at art while the left sings to the masses about whatever they want.
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>>72926865
might want to rethink that claim

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiNgy_Pw91Y
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>>72926949
To be honest I just wanted /pol/s opinion. I dont really care about how the man acts, he is talented. That is it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGIs3fOTc7s
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Frozen Brains Tell No Tales

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjwJYr13Ipw
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>>72925029

do you really think he talks through a puppet out of mental illness and not as a stage gimmick?
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>>72926822
nope, you are over-reacting to one extreme and going to the other extreme

the best art has a perfect balance between form and content (like pic related)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJz-u8RJRhg
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>>72925029

He is the best guitarist to have ever lived

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgPhsXHMSb8

He is also red-pilled as fuck and literally the embodiment of chan-culture. He tries to stay out of the spotlight, refused to play in black sabbath, got out of guns and roses and just does his things anonymously in the shadows releasing 50 albums a year or something crazy like that.

So no he is not degenerate, he is the opposite of degeneracy. He is an excentric artist sure but he is also a genius.
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>>72925029
Check Eros Ramazotti. His official profile liked my #MAGA photo on Instagram. He is very for Trump. Guy is based.
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BH playing the taco

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIYor1ZG2qg
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>>72925029
It's a gimmick to gain popularity and notoriety you dip.

Otherwise he would just be another random dude with guitar and everyone would ignore him no matter how good he was.
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>>72925029
Hi buckethead
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>>72927481

BH killing the bass
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>>72927589

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVB-qcLQWas
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>>72927565
you could say that if he was actually average, but he puts out a lot of music with a fairly wide range of styles and they are all good
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>>72927626
Sounds a lot like primus
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>>72927481
Nice, throwing some foggy mountain breakdown in there followed by chickin pickin. This man is the talent america needs.
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>>72925112
>
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>>72925029
He's a shit guitarist who's only as big as he is because he's a pussy animal rights advocate.

Protip: If your favorite band/musicians paint their face, or wear stupid costumes, they're shit.
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>>72927751
What makes a good guitarist?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKQypgRJ9vU
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>>72925568
I greatly enjoy that album
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>>72925227
this

I play in a band in a music scene literally infested with SJW's, doesn't mean I let that get in the way of enjoying music.
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He has released 264 albums. How? How do you put out new albums every 3 days?
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buckethead power songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTsi3g5s-zs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POKYEwwrkkM
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>>72927875
Well, one that doesn't try to draw your attention away from his mediocre ability with gimmicks, political bullshit, or halloween costumes
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>>72925227 >>72925394 >>72925395 >>72926296
Lots of hypocrites in Punk music, many who still like to criticize Bush or have just shut up because Bush isn't around even though Obama is doing just as many atrocities as they claim Bush did.

Rise Against seem like fags and don't seem to have political themes in their music, but at least one video is anti-Bush

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FVmHEeLROo
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BH hellish landscape songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_kGPI2dC6U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj5gkou3K7Y
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>Retarded metal faggots who are impressed by worthless guitar fiddling who think some retard incorporating "JS Bach melodies" into their garbage isn't just pure desecration and disrespect
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>>72928043
At first I only knew about his costume. The animal rights and politics is news to me as of this thread. I don't think about the bucket on top of his fucking head when I am listening to his music, its just an added bonus when you realize this guy is doing this shit with a bucket on his head.
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>>72926822

This is what I tell myself so I can enjoy The Knife kek, except the whole metal thing. Metal is shit.
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>>72925395
Nationalism is only about putting your own people and culture first. There's nothing inherently un-nationalistic about consuming things from other cultures. Culture is not something that is static, it evolves over time and primarily does so by interacting with other cultures. To live in a world without cultural diffusion is impossible.
Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8Fi3s8yPBc
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BH heavenly landscape songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKUYSl8c-90

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGIs3fOTc7s
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>>72928097
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoA_zY6tqQw
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>>72928147
Found the rap beat idolizing nigger.
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>>72928191
>its just an added bonus
You make it sound like he's blinding himself making it almost impossible to play guitar but somehow he manages to do it because he's "just that good, no other person could do that!!!"

It's retarded.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9ljioyR1I0
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>>72928043
>>72928191
All those gimmicks are annoying as fuck, Slipknot being the worst.

I think Ghost has an excuse because they're supposedly professionals that are under contract and can't play for other labels or something. Plus they have guest musicians, like Dave Grohl, at some concerts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri3kDiWaZFc
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>>72928147
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>>72928275
enjoyed your video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaCHBmGWcBc
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>>72928275
>LatsBrah

Yes
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>>72928403
Im not saying it would make him blind at all, just would be harder for anyone to do.
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BH with vocals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkCEXrlfJ4E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z30msLIhEf4
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Nj1D2y-PY8
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>>72928448
Ghost is the worst, as hard as it is to say, they suck worse than Slipknot.

>Party City halloween costumes
>slightly edgy lyrical theme
>bland ass light rock/AOR music
>non threatening vocals that borderline on full throttle gay

And people eat this horseshit up.
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>>72925029
>He can straight up shred or even entertain melodies by JS Bach
that you think shred is good music and don't think Bach is entertaining in itself proves you're degenerate trash yourself
But I like buckethead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEyOVaG151c
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BH christmas songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCj9tl-z5Gk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcH5Xkr085M
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>>72925834
dude, why would you put a greasy chicken bucket on your head? He's the fucking moral breakdown of society personified
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>>72928814
How could a frenchman even throw around a term like degenerate if he isnt referring to himself?
>just go ahead and get rid of the red and blue on your flag for a more accurate historical representation of your country
BHs cover is on par with the original piece, "La Gavotte." Its not like we can actually hear Bach perform it.
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BH classic power songs live

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYxrdrzmuUw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGt4J9oBKKo
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>>72928755
It's something new, I guess

No gimmicks, but I do love Volbeat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joqG_VEJkVE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV7aM32Jur8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj1sVQ2qdnI
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>>72928448
Ghost is god awful.

>>72928043
Buckethead is the Michael Jordan of guitar. He is a living legend. Get your ears checked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnpedrrWH6E
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>>72929128
>Buckethead is the Michael Jordan of guitar
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>>72929035
I just heard it, it's an acoustic cover, not a shred fest so it's ok
but I fucking hate people who never listen to classical musical and come to me like "oh you should hear Alexi Lahio/any fucking shredder play this classical tune, it's insane!"
no it's not, it's shit most of the time
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>>72928497
Likewise, that was a great speech

>>72928555
He's rather glorious
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>tfw buckethead will never come to poortugal
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>>72925029
>wears mask to hide identity

We all know he is the guitarist of Primus.

You just didn't get the memo.
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>>72929171
agreeable statement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTsi3g5s-zs
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His playing always reminds me of Paul Gilbert
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>>72929367
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-H4nvb_wDM
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>>72927338
>refused to play in black sabbath

He didnt, meaby Ozzy but not fucking sabbath.
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>>72928043
Regardless of the gimmik he is insanely talented. I've never heard of this dude before, but from what I have seen I can tell you he is an elite level guitarist. He could match any guitarist alive right now with ease.

And there is nothing wrong with using an edgy gimmick, if you weren't a retard and actually appreciated music you could look past the gimmicks, fucking moron.

You think everyone is distracted by these gimmicks, and yet you take this habit to the extreme.

Stop judging MUSIC by the visuals you autist.
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>>72925029
It's the 4th wall in effect OP. He has created a persona to distance himself from being "him" in the act/music and in effect allow the audience a deeper more genuine connection with "Bucket Head" instead of whatever his real name is. That may be ignorant on my part but I like Bucket Head, not the man who actually has the skills to be Bucket Head. Same thing with Daft Punk, they are world famous and iconic but humble and smart enough to shield their faces and personal lives so they can still maintain anonymity and attend a music festival in the crowd if they wanted.
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>>72928237
Metal is pretty fantastic to be honest. Unlike Dubstep and shit, the only critique against it is personal preference and being triggered by the lyrics which are typically misunderstood anyway.

Classical and metal are the highest tiers of music. Maybe jazz to, jazz is pretty cool. Blues and Jazz together is god tier.
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>>72928591
OH MY FUCKING GOD! Serj paired up with this dude? WHY DIDN'T I KNOW ABOUT THIS!

SOAD is GOAT and not Bucketman is GOAT.
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>>72929367
Paul Gilbert was one of Buckethead's teachers.
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>>72929901
Yeah, if it was some meh guitar player or band the gimmick would be bad

I remember Mudvayne got rid of their gimmick and their music got better

Gimmick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_5UOkUDti8

After gimmick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T54hTMNy8u4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bjswc9AKdOQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPFVJ4PR1uQ
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>>72929843

yea you're right it happened with ozzy so I thought it had something to do with sabbath

>Ozzy Osbourne: "I tried out that Buckethead guy. I met with him and asked him to work with me but only if he got rid of the fucking bucket. So I came back a bit later and he's wearing this green fucking Martian's-hat thing. I said, 'Look, just be yourself!' He told me his name was Brian, so I said that's what I'd call him. He says, 'No one calls me Brian except my mother.' So I said, 'Pretend I'm your mum then!' I haven't even got out of the room and I'm already playing fucking mind games with the guy. What happens if one day he's gone and there's a note saying, 'I've been beamed up?' [Laughs] Don't get me wrong, he's a great player. He plays like a motherfucker!"
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>>72930059
He taught at Guitar Institute, right? So probably hundreds of students.

Satchel from Steel Panther taught there in the 90s as well. Too bad it's more of a parody band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOvpfksFBH0
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>>72925029
The word lost all meaning.
Look at his discography.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckethead_discography

He's got some serious mental issues. Apparently various sociological disorders.
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>>72925029
>>72929937
In addition to what I said here OP, I can't see how devoting your life to learning an instrument to such a degree that you are considered in the top 1% of guitarists alive (or ever depending on your opinion and preference) could be seen as degenerate. There are meatsacks who smoke and booze their life away with nothing else to show for it, that's degenerate.
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>>72930066
Mudvayne aye? Loved those blokes back in the day.

Opinion of Slipknot?
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>>72927751
You're gonna get the hatchet for spouting shit like that bro
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>>72929901
Actually, I do appreciate music. Good music by good musicians.

When I want to listen to good music, I don't listen to Buckethead, because imo, he ain't that good. People who haven't heard a lot of music think Buckethead is good and most people don't bother seeking out other musicians in the world. For them, Buckethead is the be all, end all.

I can sit here and ramble off name after name of musicians, both living, and dead that play circles around Buckethead, but it'd be a waste of time seeing as how this thread is already a "Buckethead is literally god" thread.

If you like him, good on you. But don't start shooting off about he's the best there's ever been or like >>72929128 put it, the "Michael Jordan of guitar", it only makes you look like a inexperienced child.
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>>72930224
Guitar is a pointless waste of time. Stupid hobby.
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>>72930266
Don't get me started on the magnet fags...
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>>72930253
They only have a few good songs. Stone Sour has just as many or more.
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>>72930308
>t. booty bothered virgin
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>>72930266
Fuckin magnets.
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>>72930108
If the dude kept up the "character" around Ozzy fucking Osbourne he either thinks very little of Ozzy, or is genuinely disturbed.

My guess is that he is an extreme savant.
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>>72930308
>hobby
>waste of time
Ok.
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>>72930253
I saw Slipknot last January. With Suicidal Tendencies as their support.
Tbh I really love the metal of mid 90s and early 2000s. Brings back so many memories. And Slipknot is probably still the only band from that era that is still on top. And I really appreciate how almost every one of their song is memorable in one way or another, or has a good chorus or at least something. Most bands have 3 to 4 great songs and the rest is just filler.
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>>72928591

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGEMIvqHNqg
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>>72930266
>>72930322
To be fair, they have some "redpilled" songs

Bullshit in general
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ud1ETRmqtc

Reality with and without the "redpill"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPkWGZYocCo

Against religion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8gwXPslzuU

Killing rapists and pedos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzQlw0oseuw
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>>72930289
>Inexperienced

You elitists are cancer. I bet you are a mediocre player as well.

I know my guitar, mate, I know my guitar very well. You can name all of your obscure wankers off one by one, and I doubt many would match this guy.

The dude is a savant. I truly think something is a little off with him. Most young people who dress to sell through a gimmick aren't that good. Practiced veterans are that good. Unless you are a savant, someone so autistic that their focus is unrivaled.

Being someone so cynical that he has become dismissive, you probably don't believe savants exist, so please just google it before you become an embarrassment.
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>>72930511
*Bullshit in general and celebrity worship
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buckethead is great i've seen him in concert a bunch of times.

Really deserves to be inducted into the rock and roll hall of fame imo.
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>>72930308
Another cynical retard...

Hobbies aren't supposed to build rockets. And it is probably more productive than a classical instrument considering the popularity of modern stuff.
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>>72928954
Holy shit, its like pol has no idea what artistic expression is
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>>72926966
Sounds like Nicolas Cage
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>>72930451
Agree entirely. Of course you need to be pretty into the metal you just mentioned to think highly of almost all of their songs.

For some reason people point to All Hope Is Gone as one of the good ones when even the fucking band hates that album.
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>>72930546
>elitists

Ah.... There it is, the term thrown around by children when they encounter someone that doesn't like what they like.
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>>72925626
>play on stage in front of millions of people every night
>want to keep a low profile

Pick one
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>>72930356
Stone sour is pretty bloody good. I am however into the heavier metal. I'd wager you are more into softer melody, whereas I don't give much of a fuck about the vocals most of the time and just listen for intricacies in the guitars.
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>>72930253

This is the best slipknot song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EWfA_5NK9U
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>>72930687
I know their songs. I try to focus on each band at a time, listen all of their albums before I give my opinion.
AHIG is probably the least memorable I think. But the band was at its peak at that time. The last one is definitely a grower whereas the third one (Sublimal Verse) is probably the most experimental and unique. Usually the best for those who hate the band weirdly enough. Well at least they try different things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06gELOeEoQ4
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I like joe satriani better desu
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tbqh his music really isn't all that fantastic. The majority of the music he has released in the Pikes series falls into the same predictable patterns. Even his latest live shows seem pretty meh.
Still love his earlier works though.
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>>72925029
Sometimes autists actually manage to be popular with their guitar wanking. Buckethead looks so stupid when you first see him that you have to check out his music. But this trick won't work by just being individual and trying to be stupid, Buckethead's popularity is actually spread by OP faggots like yourself.
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>>72930689
No, it isn't. It is a word for elitists, as if you have some authority to call others who enjoy music "inexperienced" as if there is a quota. Ultimately I called you an elitist because you are being a cunt.

I've never displayed any issue with you liking different stuff, the autistic component of your drivel comes from the illusion of objectivity, as if YOUR tastes matter in the slightest, let alone become condusive to fact.

The key thing with elitists are that they are cunts. I'd consider plenty of people with my own tastes elitists. This one faggot posted on my facebook feed a meme along the lines of "TFW you hear you friends talking about the new Beyonce album but you can't relate because you only listen to good music".

This good music he refers to is exactly the kind I listen, to, and yet I'd still lot him as a cunt.
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>>72930059
It all makes sense now. Wish I had Paul Gilbert as a teacher back in the day.
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Don't know why people call it nu. It's just a new generation or a new wave. Can't believe people want Korn, Godsmack, Deftones or Static-X to be put in one category.
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>>72930961
Nowhere in any of my posts in this thread did I say I was superior to anyone.

If you think Buckethead is good, you have not listened to very much music in your life, therefore you are inexperienced on the subject. That isn't me trying to be better than you, it's just a fact.

Listen to more music.
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>>72930961

>ausposter best poster

What kind of twilight zone thread is this

Anyway, it's the typical "my taste>your inexperienced(smugface) taste" not worth a serious reply, only engage if interested in bantz

Goddamn it Australia
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>>72930971
Doesn't matters how good you think you are if you don't create any songs, you don't do anything else than covers and you don't even remember your own shit. Being a musician is a profession like everything else.
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Joe Satriani is better
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>>72931143

Buckethead is the best guitar player to have ever lived prove me wrong with the use of science.
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>>72931246
There's no best guitar player you autist. Try to find a guitar player in Portugal instead of considering everything the best that's most popular.
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>>72931246
To a 12 year old, I'm sure he is.
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>>72930798
Technically it is up there. Not my favorite though.

Tricky for me to pick a favorite. Before I Forget is high up there. Wait and Bleed, Duality, Devil in I. AOV.

I can't decide.

>>72930888
Trips. I'll try your method from now on. Typically though I grab a few albums over time, and I assume an average. I can't afford all of them sometimes, ya know.

As for the last one, I't my favorite, aside from antennas to hell which captures my favorites into one album bar the last.
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>>72925227
You might be one of the few intelligent people left, much respect.
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>>72931143
How is it a fact, fuckwit?

No, I have listened to tones of music, I have played tones of music, I am in no way inexperienced, and I think he is pretty fucking good.

This is an example of you putting your opinion forward as objectivity, which is a huge calling card for cunts, and, funnily enough, elitists.

You enver stated you were superior, but you have arbitrarily assigned your opinion with weight, despite the fact that it is literally "you don't like what I like so your taste in music either sucks or you don't know about music".

It's almost sad talking to you. You are the pinnacle of musical plebdom.
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>>72931246
https://youtu.be/Yo6LXD7uzn4
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>>72931332

Hey Boris read the full argument instead of projecting whatever it is you're projecting.

Take this as a gift

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwhV1ivYNsQ
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>>72931161
>Interested in bantz

This is a given.

Aussposter always best poster.

Do not ignore Australian threads.

Do not ignore Australian posters.

Do not hide and report Australian posts.
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>>72931519
More name-calling....

As expected.

Keep proving me right.
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best song coming through
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOTNawTlE38
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>>72931549
I want to say they play technically similar. I know this guy, he is fucking great, one of the people who inspired me to git gud. I'm conflicted.
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>>72931596
>posts classic guitar
You sure are autistic aren't you? They sell electric guitars in Portugal too?
You know typing in Google "best guitar player in Portugal" makes you even bigger autist.
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>>72931549

I like Satriani but he is too "classic" if that makes sense, i prefer BH
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>>72931714
Can he play with his teeth?
https://youtu.be/6b5D7kKy0Fg
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>>72931741

Lol I'm sure YOU could just get Paredes by randomly mashing your head on the keyboard my friend

Don't know why the fuck you're so angry tho is something wrong?
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>>72931654
I'm not proving you write. You have a very shallow standard of proof.

You have been condescending throughout this whole thread, which is pretty much the same as name calling. They should both be tolerated, that is unless you are weak. Are you weak?

You lack the ability to see a point through getting roasted, just like you are unable to get over gimmicks and just listen to music.

I'm pretty much done with you, friendo.

Oh fuck, is does friendo count as name calling? Are you triggered sweetheart?
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>>72931741
How does that make anyone an autist? This is some low octane shitposting mate. It's barely digested.
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>>72931865

You seem to be experiencing a moderate to severe case of the Appalachian Red-Ass. There's no need for alarm, but immediate treatment is required.

After you take care of your butt troubles, listen to more music.
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>>72931853
I needed 5 seconds to find an electric guitar player from Portugal and he already sounds better than Buckethead:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StCa_H91I1I
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>>72931802

He can play with nothing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYxrdrzmuUw#t=03m50s
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>>72931802
The bucketman kind of wears a mask. And it isn't as hard as it sounds. Once you learn to move around a lot, and be active with the guitar, you can get to putting your teeth on the guitar not long after. I can only do it with simple tunes about the E strings, but someone any quantity better than I am could do it all over the board.

Not sure why you would want to put a filthy bacteria infested food hole near the strings though. Thin, long cables of steel entwined with nickle don't grow in trees.
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>>72931930
Autists are too lazy to concentrate into finding something or doing something, they tend to be dependent on other people telling them what's good. Austists don't spend 5 seconds to search for anything in their own country, but claim they know it all.
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>>72927481
That's a Banjitar he's playing. It's got 6 strings and tuned like a guitar. So that's not a significantly different instrument than he usually plays.
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>>72926594

if you watch him perform, it seems like he has crippling stagefright when he isn't playing, I've always figured the buckethead thing was his autistic way of dealing with taht
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>>72931654

buckethead is pretty fucking good at guitar, dude.

he plays and writes many different styles of music. he is at the bleeding edge of technical proficiency. he has an ear for tone. he has taste and uses it when he arranges music. he's constantly writing new material and constantly growing as a songwriter and guitar player.

He might not be 'the best', there is no 'god' of guitar (or anything else) but as far as modern guitarists go he's on the short list of greats.

I don't even like the guy but I can respect his ability and dedication to his craft. As a musician I find it fascinating how he's constantly writing and releasing new material, the methods he goes through hashing out a new riff or entire song, etc. It's incredible to watch him take one motif and turn it into an entire song in a matter of minutes in real time.

So how about this list of dozens of guitarists, living and dead, who are as proficient and prolific as buckethead? I can think of many who play well, I can think of less who are as prolific, but I cannot think of many who do it in so many genres and styles.
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>>72931997
It's worse than I though.

>Don't call me names you meanie
>Y-your butthurt!
>Y-your not listening to enough music!
>That's right, I-I know all about what you listen to!

Pic related

>Look mum, I made a bum joke! Can we go see the wiggles now?
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>>72932092

I was just showing you who Paredes is, he is the god of portuguese guitar.

Unfortunately you seem to be too busy trying to be negative on the internet and projecting some sort of mental issues to make up for something missing in your life so it was a wasted effort by me, shoulda known better desu
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>>72932242
You don't listen to enough music, and me pointing out the obvious has got you fartbox flabbergasted.
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>>72932215
>B-but you don't listen to enough music!
>Other people being good makes this guy bad!
>You must have a sore ass (don't tell mum I said that)
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>>72930289
Buckethead is a guitarist's guitarist
the dude is on the same level as guys like Paul Gilbert, Vai, Satrian, Yngwie etc
I don't like a lot of his music, but his instrumental talent is undeniable.
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>>72932374
>I know all about music!
>Your tastes are because you don't listen to enough music!

This is the text book logical process of he vegetable.

>I can extrapolate these conclusion based on absolutely nothing but autism!
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>>72931997

>american
>trying to point out how someone else has hemorrhoids

my sides
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>I know all about music!

Make up more shit I never said, maybe it'll ease your poop chute predicament.
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>>72932569
>portugal
>trying to matter

sides, indeed.
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>>72932373
Lets just quickly search in Google for:
- best of guitar
- best of trumpet
- best voices
That's surely confirm Buckethead being the best and Portugal not having a single electric guitar player besides myself, my humble Buckethead student.
Without exaggerating logic should tell you that there are at least 500 million as good or better guitar players as Buckethead, simply because electric guitar is the most popular instrument among young people, besides singing. So claiming that Buckethead is the best is you being naive as shit consumer of Jew products.
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>>72932735

Oh no, I didn't quote, hurry, say this is being mad!
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>>72925112
Nice ID twat
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>>72930308
You're right. Music is haram.
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>>72932804
This is flawed logic. I and others have made an assessment based on the readily available information that we have, being other guitar players. This would be valid logic if we were picking a random guitarist without examining others, but in this case it is cykablyat logic.
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>>72932804

I didn't search in Google for anything you autist, this is literally you projecting some problem that you have, I think it goes something like this:

>stop liking things!!!!!!!!
>why are you liking things!!!!!!!
>you just googled this!!!!!!!

This is your train of thought and only a professional psychiatrist can diagnose you I'm not qualified I'm afraid.
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>>72933134
I am qualified in memetic sorcery and can diagnose him with faggotry. Observe.

>>72932804
ur a faggot.
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>>72933008
Every guitar player that plays in some band for years has to play guitar regularly, so that makes that guitar player good at guitar. Which is what autists don't understand, since they think if they cover a song and upload it on YouTube, they are good guitar players. You are only good if you actually create something.
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>>72930735
>make a living doing what you love and excel at, literally living the dream and gaining international fame and recognition
>be able to do normie things in public without being hounded by everyone

pick buckethead
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>>72932429
>talent

You mean thousands of hours thrown into the gutter fiddling a phallic wooden plank so that you can be a neato dude who goes FIDDLY DIDDLY WAHAW WHAW FIDDLY WEEEE!!!

It's really no different than speed runners who practice their timing and buttons for 9 hours a day for months instead of being human beings.
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>>72933344
Some are better than others. Some people are born with talent.

Some people take this to the extreme and are savants.
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>guy wears a mask
>iz le degenerate xD?

worst thread of the month, probably even year
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>>72933450
sure, if that's how you wish to look at it
though the same could be said about literally any other pursuit out there...
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>>72933556
It turned out okay. I didn't mind discussing moosick
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>>72931802

that's not even hard since he's only playing a few notes at mid tempo. if he was shredding with his teeth then that would be impressive.
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>>72933665
Less discussing, more discovering.
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>>72933450
Are you the same cynical faggot that was posting before, because I have plenty of images of crying children to make fun of you with.
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>>72933450
>a-anybody can be a world renowned musical genius all you have to do is practice lots and lots
>the reason there are so few on his level is just because they didn't practice enough!
>i could easily become a virtuoso if i wasn't a normie faggot
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>>72933499
If you play in any rock band for years you can do whatever Buckethead can do, the question here is if you want to do what Buckethead does. Many rock group guitarists have solo albums, since rock music leans towards guitar lead. You should check mp3 sites, since many can't release their music, since they don't have a record label. But you being seriously limited if you think that a guitarist that plays rock music for 5 years or more in a band can't learn to play Buckethead. Playing somebody else's notes is one thing, other thing is remembering and making your own songs.
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>>72933735
You can't even talk about that. All we have discovered is that your are a prepube who listens to the wiggles and makes bum jokes.

Nothing wrong with a discussion.

pic related.

How I imagine you look while responding, minus 5 years of age.
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I was always a massive fan of Bucketheads work with GNR

https://youtu.be/m_8yFOiCQwU

some amazing solo work!
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>>72933770
to be fair to buckethead, the guy makes close to 100 albums a year, every single year.
its incredible, can you imagine the amount of sheer dedication it takes to make each individual one different yet good enough to justify continued albums being made year out of year?
thats a hell of alot of talent in all honesty.
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>>72933995
Maybe he improvises, then it's not that hard, since you don't have to learn the exact notes to every song.
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>>72933770
A big part of evaluating skill is the ability to make your own shit. Yes, you can practice and play everything. The fact that he is making music on this level, which is exceptional, coming from someone who has played guitar for many years.

If I nutted it out, I could play it, but making it is another story.

Plus playing in a rock band doesn't denote dedication. Dedication can be very varied, from playing in a band and going to practice, to sitting in you room every day, exploring the whole fret board regardless of musical norms, and fully understanding almost every pleasing combination their is to be made.

I know you are probably autistic, so this may be hard to understand, but there is a lot of grey area in this.
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>>72933914
Sure I can, I have been for a while now. You don't listen to much music.

You can post pics all day long, still doesn't change the fact that you're not knowledgeable when it comes to music and angry, just like a stupid hat and mask can't hide mediocrity.
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Dunno if it's been linked already but I'm a big fan of his and this is one of his best songs, dedicated to the nips

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRL-s9h1k_U
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>>72925029

Welcome to the wacky world of music.
Not the first, won't be the last
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>>72934160
I am more knowledgeable than you.
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>>72934137
In modern times it's many times not necessary even skill, since many many music albums are made with computer software, now it depends how much the musician adds to the sound and how much he actually plays it. You can release a guitar genius album pretty easy these days, but will you ever hear that genius live? It's a known fact that even Michael Jackson and Madonna used live playback or just alterations to their voice.
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The same people who think Buckethead is a "savant" are the exact same people who think Metallica is as good as it gets in metal, or Stevie Ray Vaughan is the best in blues.
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>>72933770

>If you play football for years you can do whatever Messi/Ronaldo do, it's not that hard
>I could totally do it if I tried but I'm busy posting in a cantonese cartoon interwebsite

Ok champ
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>>72934096
>not knowing that good improvisation is applied theory and only comes from a deep understanding of what you're doing

Literally every song ever starts out as a fucking improvisation you dumb faggot. Stop posting.
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>>72934489
>comparing football to guitar
Lets just say that if Messi wouldn't play at front he wouldn't even make goals, but that doesn't means the whole team doesn't do their job. At some point Messi started to be used by coach for making goals so he trained that, other football players don't train that so much. But still you comparing two different things.
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>>72934484
And think Nirvana were good.
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>>72934439
I am judging by talent. This is obvious to someone who isn't afraid of being wrong, like you. My points still stand.
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>>72934542
So then you being stupid by trying to imitate something that not even Buckethead himself can repeat exactly as he played it 10 albums ago.
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>>72934627
Some people have more born talent that others. This is also pretty common knowledge. Some genetics are better at different things, by virtue of the fact that they are different.
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>>72934484

are you shitting me?

Buckethead is well respected in guitarist circles. Shit for a big portion of the 2000s people thought it was Paul fucking Gilbert behind the mask.
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>people talking shit about buckethead

get fucked the guy is incredibly talented.
most of the time people bashing on him haven't heard anything besides jordan because it was in one of the guitar heroe games.
his control of the guitar is absolute he can play in many different styles and shits out albums faster then fucking viper.
of course alot of those albums don't have much structure besides him jammin to some drum machine track but even then through his talent he can easily hook you to his melodies.
buckethead is a fucking legend
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>>72934696
He could probably repeat it if he looked over it, or liked the sound.

This is the highest tier of talent, being able to pull good shit out of your ass.

You have not made one correct assertion throughout this whole thread.
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>>72934627

What about the other 100 million guys who play at the same position as him? Since "it's not that hard" I guess they must all be posting in taiwanese drawing origami boards too
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>>72934760
Sure thing retard, funny that they never speak Chinese when they born in Anglo country. Why don't Anglo children get born with Latin language talent?
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>>72934934
now you are just being obtuse slovenia
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>>72934800
>Shit for a big portion of the 2000s people thought it was Paul fucking Gilbert behind the mask.

What people?
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"He has released 256 studio albums"

He's literally the Viper of the rock world.
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>>72935179
I thought it was talent, now it seems like it's obsessive work and training.
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>>72935066
I'm assuming you didn't hang out with your guitarist bros, local musos or any of the big guitarist forums back in the day?
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>>72935251
The term is called "Try-hard"
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/try-hard
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>>72935251
Is slovenia seriously trying to suggest there is no such thing as talent?
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>>72935263
I form my own opinion and don't need other people telling me what to listen to.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_ty46gAspc
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>>72935342
Don't you ever dare to call some other guy's single produced stupid album better than Buckethead's 300 albums. Buckethead will get mad and make you eat that old chicken he hidden behind his bucket for decades, you will die.
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>>72934934
... How retarded are you? Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>72935527
Is Buckethead from Australia? There seems to be overload of Australian flags.
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>KFC
fuck him and his race mixing herbs and spices
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>>72935564
nah its just 830pm and we have to meet our daily shit posting quota otherwise the government will come and fine us.
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>>72925029
Buckethead is fine, his weirdness is limited to his performances, so it doesn't really affect the real world.
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The amount of butthurt commies in here who can't deal with the fact that some people are simply gifted is hilarious.

I bet you talentless faggots unironically believe everybody is equal and the only reason you aren't on their level is because you were too busy doing radical af things like making fun of faggots and trolling kiddies in cod when you were growing up instead of applying yourself to something and mastering it.
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>>72935564
We like music and shitposting. But seriously, ahve you figured out the glaring problem with your last statement yet? I'll leave it with you.

I'm gonna go and play sum vidya.
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No you twat, people are born with a blank slate. When a child is born they have no perception of reality. Its through their experiances they devlope.
>anyone can buy a family bucket and take guitar lessons
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>>72925029

Buckethead is autism.
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>>72935851
>"some people are simply gifted"
>not everyone is equal
>...but they just applied themselves

???
so are people simply gifted and therefore superior or can everyone master a skill? you just disagreed with yourself you animal fucker
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>>72935851
>gifted

No one is born with a magic ability to play X instrument, it's learned over time. Every great guitarist sucked at one time. It how much time you put into learning. Some people pick up on it faster than others, some are forced to learn it by fucked up parents with dollar signs in their eyes, some take their time with it and aren't really that serious about it. There isn't a music god picking people out at random and blessing them with talent as soon as they exit the womb. Anyone can learn how to play the shit Buckethead/Paul Gilbert/Shawn Lane/Jimi Hendrix etc.etc.. can, there are videos posted every day of people playing their shit.
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>>72925029
>implying maintaining anonymity is degenerate
nah
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>>72936373
thats the separation between technique and writing.
everyone can learn how to play given enough time but writing is on a whole different scale.
even if you dedicate a lot of time learning theory its only a vessel which helps you to express ideas you already have.
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>>72925029
If I could wear a mask without everyone thinking I was some weirdo faggot, I might consider it.

I autistic as fuck though.

My favorite thing is having an excuse to wear sunglasses so I don't have to force myself to look people in the eye
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>>72936643
Anything can be learned. Just like playing ability, some learn to play, some can't.
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>>72936139
>so are people simply gifted and therefore superior or can everyone master a skill?

Nah man some people just like, do it a little bit more than others, that's all. Literally anybody could be a bobby fischer or a buckethead or a mike tyson. #equality

>you just disagreed with yourself you animal fucker

>implying there aren't thousands of people out there who will never achieve bucketheads level of fame, recognition and admiration who have spent the same or near amount of time practicing

I guess those other people just didn't put in those few extra hours of practice right? Maybe they weren't training correctly.
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>>72925786
Where have you been, OP? Buckethead has been spinning nunchaku and kicking ass for years.
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