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>Real official unemployment rate of 5%.
>Longest job creation streak in American history. 73 months and counting.
>95% full time job creation
>Lowest jobless claims since 1973
>All time high job openings

Barack HUSSEIN Obama one of the greatest presidents ever!
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>>72845496
Seriously any autist can pull that off by borrowing ###9 TRILLION DOLLARS###
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>>72846190
Obama is the slowest spender since Eisenhower.

Educate yourself.

Obama spending binge never happened
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/obama-spending-binge-never-happened-2012-05-22?pagenumber=1#:dI8B50A_Bnn/PA
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It's that time of the day again.

IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITS

CRAAAAAAAAAAAZY
DELUUUUUUUUUUUSIONAL
LEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAF THREAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!

AND HERE ONCE MORE FOR YET ANOTHER OF THE EXACT SAME TREAD...


IT'S THE CRAZY FAGGOT LEAF... OP!
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>>72846350
NINE TRILLION DOLLARS
>NINE TRILLION DOLLARS
NINE TRILLION DOLLARS
>NINE TRILLION DOLLARS
NINE TRILLION DOLLARS
>NINE TRILLION DOLLARS
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>>72845496
>nigger president creates a bunch of fast food cashier jobs.

t-thanks obama
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>>72846444
Are you a right wing retard? Obama reduced the budget deficit by over 2/3.
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>>72846374
Why do right wing retards think facts are crazy?
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>>72846568
Don't you dare speak of jobs you aren't qualified for.
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>>72845496

Tell me about Obama; How does he create the jobs?
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>>72846573
NINE TRILLION DOLLARS
>NINE TRILLION DOLLARS

DO THE MATH TED

19 - 10 = NIINE TRILLION DOLLARS TED

Even autist might have added more jobs than obongo...
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>>72846573

Tbh he had to do it to bail out the banks
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>>72845496

Not so fast. You're about to see the worst financial crash in all of human history.

http://thefinalbubble.com/nht_v15c/front-ctrl.php?param1=nht_v15c&hop=newstoday5&device=computer

This is a long video. I am afraid for the future. What's /pol/s opinion on this. This could be the worst Financial Crisis, ever.

"Remember the word, "bubble", you heard it hear first..." - Donald J Trump - 19/12/2015
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>>72846646
>continuous training and development

"mandatory brainwashing so you stick to the script instead of trying to help the person on the other end of the line"
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>>72847004
Reagan tripled the debt. Conservatives worship him.
Bush doubled the debt. Conservatives love him.

Obama did neither. Conservatives hate him.

Cheney: Reagan proved conservatives don't care about deficits.
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>>72847150
NINE TRILLION DOLLARS
>NINE TRILLION DOLLARS
NINE TRILLION DOLLARS
>NINE TRILLION DOLLARS
NINE TRILLION DOLLARS
>NINE TRILLION DOLLARS

HELLO RATO

NINE TRILLION DOLLARS
>NINE TRILLION DOLLARS
NINE TRILLION DOLLARS
>NINE TRILLION DOLLARS
NINE TRILLION DOLLARS
>NINE TRILLION DOLLARS
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>>72847119
Any Leaf would kill for that job.
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>>72847150
NINE
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>>72847258
TRILLION
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>>72847282
KEKNADIAN
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>>72845496
>official unemployment
>not looking at an increase in underemployed part time workers
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>>72847150

The size of the Raegan debt at the end of his presidency was 2.9 trillion. (he was bankrupting the Soviets and being based)

The size of the US debt under Obama right now is over 19 trillion (he was making the yobs)
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>>72847340
S
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>>72847246
I had that job and left it to start my business, which i am posting from
no amount of money or benefits is worth throwing away your entire personality and being in order to argue with customers the exact way the company instructs
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/pol/ doesn't care about facts or reality
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>>72847402
WHATS THAT

NINE

TRILLION

LIBERAL

TEARS
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>>72847379
">not looking at an increase in underemployed part time workers

That's been cut in half under Obama.

YOU JUST GOT BTFO HOLY SHIT.

What are you a right wing retard?

That's the under-employment rate btw. Not unemployment rate. 2 different things retard.
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>>72845496
OP IS A FAGGOT
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>>72847232

deficit doesn't mean anything if it is connected with growth. If you can service that debt then there is no reason why it would be a problem. It's all air anyway. I don't understand why lolbertarians and ancraps obsess over deficits since it's not tied to the gold standard anyway.

The modern global capitalism we have today, would not have existed without cutting the reserve currency from the gold standard. Since then the speculative market has done nothing but benefit the US, who has been the strongest economy ever since that event.
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A

LEAF
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>>72847402
>thinks a dollar in 1980 equals a dollar in 2016
holy shit being this retarded

REAGAN TRIPLED THE NATIONAL DEBT. If Obama was as bad as Reagan, the national debt would be $30 TRILLION right now.
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>>72847150
>Conservatives
are over, and you're years behind the American political climate.
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Every day you make this thread and every day it's bullshit

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/01/15/the-chart-that-explains-everything/
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/8/14/1411883/-Behind-the-Numbers-The-Anatomy-of-a-Low-Wage-Recovery
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/09/16/poverty-wages-remain-stagnant-despite-economic-recovery

summary
>Obama cut spending taking demand out of the economy
>deficits don't matter
>spent trillions bailing out wall street
>cut federal funds rate to nothing
>wages stagnant
>shitty low wage jobs
>outsourcing
>mass immigration
>Goldman Sachs now owns the entire economy
>economy now stagnant
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>>72847522
I do when they get blown to pieces at an airport.
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>>72845496
kinda of sinks Bernie's reasons for running

every college grad can get a job to pay back debt, so no need to cancel college tuition (professors can get paid now)
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>>72847522
THIS
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>>72847638

If Obama was in Raegans position America would have lost the Cold War in two weeks. He would have given the Soviets 150 billion dolalrs and capitulated after they crossed all the red lines
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>>72847639
>I said conservatives
>posts a chart of Republicans and Democrats

Holy shit you're retarded.
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>>72847588
>US
>can service that debt

it's like

>Greece
>Pay DEBNTS
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>>72846573

>DEFICIT

>NOT DEBT

It takes a true retard to confuse the two.

The deficit doesn't need to be reduced, it needs to be COMPLETELY ELIMINATED. And actually it needs to be reduced and start being payed off or America is going to pay an unreal amount of interest payments.
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>>72845496
Nice of him to put 14.4 million rebels to work
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>>72847588
NO MARBLES.
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>>72847644
Every day I make this chart and I BTFO right wing retards who think the real unemployment rate is 42% and there are 93 GORILLION unemployed.

Donald Trump says U.S. has 93 million people 'out of work,' but that's way too high
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/aug/31/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-us-has-93-milion-people-out-work/

Donald Trump says the unemployment rate may be 42 percent
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/aug/31/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-us-has-93-milion-people-out-work/
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>>72845496
jobs for immigrants doesnt count
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>>72847788
>chart
>imblying "liberal" and "conservative" aren't the falsely dichotomous descriptors our parties use to take turns expanding government

7/10, I forgot to heed this image I'm posting.
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>>72847977
that post in no way responds to my points

I'll just post it again

Every day you make this thread and every day it's bullshit

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/01/15/the-chart-that-explains-everything/
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/8/14/1411883/-Behind-the-Numbers-The-Anatomy-of-a-Low-Wage-Recovery
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/09/16/poverty-wages-remain-stagnant-despite-economic-recovery

summary
>Obama cut spending taking demand out of the economy
>deficits don't matter
>spent trillions bailing out wall street
>cut federal funds rate to nothing
>wages stagnant
>shitty low wage jobs
>outsourcing
>mass immigration
>Goldman Sachs now owns the entire economy
>economy now stagnant
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>>72847977

>politifact

Kill yourself shill.
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>>72847920
Where did I confuse the two?

Perhaps you need to rub your 2 brain cells together.

If Obama is the slowest spender since Eisenhower, and has reduced the budget deficit by over 2/3, then clearly that's not his spending is it retard?

Clearly the problem is the $1.4 TRILLION budget deficit that Bush left Obama.

Holy shit right wing retards man.
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>>72848102
Except all the lies that you're posting have already been debunked by me.

You're just mad that America is succeeding under a black president.

You want America to fail and you're pissed that it hasn't.
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>>72845496
I agree completely, OP. Obama has been a wonderfully successful president. I just can't believe that the best the Democrats can come up with to follow him up is Hillary. Seriously? There is nobody better in the party to continue the legacy? Very disappointing.
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>>72848151
N
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Can anyone post the chart where our high paying jobs went down 9000%, median paying jobs went down 3000% and low paying jobs went up 64%?
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>>72847553

You wanna have a graph war leaf
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>>72848116
See what I mean?

Right wing retards think the REAL unemployment rate is 42% and there are 93 GORILLION unemployed Americans.

You're mentally handicapped and so is your god emperor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRO1nS0Wo-A
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>>72848284
since the recession
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>>72845496

deficit does not equal debt. if I spend 10 dollars I don't have in one year but only spent 9.50 the next, I cut the deficit by 50 cents but increased the debt by 95%. I owe 19.50. if you start your first year spending 9 trillion dollars and then cut it to 8 trillion, congrats - you cut the deficit but increased the debt - for a net gain of 17 trillion.
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>>72848151

Yeah you can't blame this nigger's woman-tier debt spending on Bush.

Bush was full retard, but Obama managed to be even worse somehow. Being worse than Bush was unimaginable 8 years ago yet here we are.
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>>72848242
>Except all the lies that you're posting have already been debunked by me
citation needed
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>>72845496
You're a retard if you trust anything the obama regime says.
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>>72848322
Why don't you actually show Obama's record.

YOU JUST GOT BTFO.

I proved that right wing retards rely on lying and fake charts.

The U6 rate has been cut by nearly half under Obama.

WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU LYING RIGHT WING RETARD?
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>>72848284
Under Obama? You're obviously lying.
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>>72847809

If you knew anything about economics it's that the growth rate is intimately tied with the debt rate. The debt is not serviced all at once but payed in the course of large amounts of periods.

What Germany and the EU did to us, nobody could pull that shit on the US, not even China (unless it wants it's economy to collapse). But what they did to us was to demand unservicable debt to restructure their own banks when the shit hit the fan in 08' and Greece could not service that debt due to low growth rate.
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>>72848325

Look at the workforce participation percentage and the distribution between full time and part time, it's a very clear picture. The middle class and lower-middle class is getting rat fucked. I mean I personally don't blame this on Obama, it's more an international trend based on overpopulation and globalization, but you're still being absolutely deluded here.
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>>72848382
'B-but right wing retard?!!'

'I urm- Uh- Reagan tripled the debt you right wing retard, here's my graph.
um yeh hildog 2016'
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>>72845496
EVERY. FUCKING. WEEK. SOME. STUPID. LEAF. POSTS. THIS. FUCKING. BULLSHIT. PRIVATE. SECTOR. JOB. CREATION. STATISTIC.
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>>72848431
EVERYTHING IS FAKE BECAUSE I'M A RIGHT WING RETARD!!!
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>>72847150
As a conservative, I support Obama's economic actions.
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I wont refute anything you post here because I already have done it several times before in several of the same threads you made here. I'm already noticing how you are once again posting a graph on how the deficit was reduced, implying that it was somehow a)notable b)not just a very slow return to mean (not even mean, above average mean) and c)answering a criticism about the US debt with something about deficit

Anyway, I hope you come here this summer/autumn when shit hits the fan and it becomes obvious to the common man that the economy is in complete meltdown globally, and be a big man to admit that the Obama recovery is a failure.

But I know you'll probably just solely blame it on China and its "failed transition" or whatever.
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>>72848548
>Look at the workforce participation percentage

It's going down because the baby boomers are retiring? Are they not allowed to retire?

“Each day,10,000 baby boomers retire and begin receiving Medicare and Social Security benefits.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2014/07/24/do-10000-baby-boomers-retire-every-day/

LOOK AT ALL MEASURES OF UNEMPLOYMENT UNDER OBAMA. THEY'VE PLUMMETED! FROM U3 TO U6.
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>>72848610
Because right wing retards need facts.
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>>72848488
Republicans are hammering on a sore spot in the Obama economy: part-time jobs.
Over 6.6 million Americans work part-time jobs but want full-time jobs. That's much higher than the roughly 4.5 million part-timers before the Great Recession began.

These so-called "involuntary part-time workers" have become ammo for Republicans to fire at Obama's economic recovery.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/06/09/news/economy/america-involuntary-part-time-worker-problem/
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>>72847638

Moving the goalposts fallacy.
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>>72845496
What is congress?
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>>72848544
pay denbts
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>>72845496
He didn't create jobs. He just imported millions of mexicans and other assorted shitskins who set up pizza or car washing businesses with their own capital and then claimed he """created""" that """job""" for them.
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>>72848382
Just to confirm. You agree with all the facts I posted right?

>14.4 million jobs created
>Real official unemployment rate of 5%.
>Longest job creation streak in American history. 73 months and counting.
>95% full time job creation
>Lowest jobless claims since 1973
>All time high job openings

Which fact were you disagreeing with?
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>>72848488
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>>72848900

Over here faggot: >>72848779
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http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/bETZS-X4QMfjUd0wQkRkNg/
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/h-ZmzBXPFri_iIRKHX_gwQ/
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/KcZ0UeS9bmqIxcUXUGB76Q/

Imagine being this autistic and shilling for the outgoing president of a country you're not even from.
Also ask this guy what he thinks of Obama supporting and expanding the NSA's wiretapping, it's always funny because he says it's acceptable since the agency's been around for 50+ years.
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>>72847589
I DRAW LIFEFORCE FROM BLOWING THE FUCK OUT HUNDREDS RIGHT WING RETARDS EVERYDAY.

You America hating faggots are pissed that America is succeeding under a black president.
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>>72848975

Over here faggot: >>72848779
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>>72848900
The bubble will pop at some point, but your ass will be blaming the Republicans.
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>>72847004
Is the left side adjusted for inflation?
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>>72845496

>A Canadian gets paid to shill a president that is leaving office for a country he doesn't live in or have rights or claim to.

How much do you get paid, btw? I work from home and I could use some extra income.
Where do I send my CV?

>>72847589
>>72847589
>>72847589

Global IDs was the greatest thing this board threw away.
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>>72848779
I just showed you that the U6 under-employment rate has been cut in half under Obama.

Wtf r u on about?

95% of Obama job creation has been full time.

What's up with your retarded chart? Did you think Obama entered office in 1978?

Do you seriously not understand that when baby boomers retire, THEY LEAVE THE LABOR FORCE.

Holy shit being this retarded...
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>>72848242
Every day you make this thread and every day it's bullshit

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/01/15/the-chart-that-explains-everything/
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/8/14/1411883/-Behind-the-Numbers-The-Anatomy-of-a-Low-Wage-Recovery
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/09/16/poverty-wages-remain-stagnant-despite-economic-recovery

summary
>Obama cut spending taking demand out of the economy
>deficits don't matter
>spent trillions bailing out wall street
>cut federal funds rate to nothing
>wages stagnant
>shitty low wage jobs
>outsourcing
>mass immigration
>Goldman Sachs now owns the entire economy
>economy now stagnant

These are liberal sources btw so good luck saying "das raciss"
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>>72848737

Boomers are already retired retard, they aren't retiring now, they're dropping dead like flies. They've just been replaced by millennials as the most populace generation, the ones retiring now are Gen Xrs who are the least numerous of the 3. Based purely on population dynamics workforce participation should be going up, not down.
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>>72849037
I just blew him the fuck out. 95% of Obama job creation has been full time.

>>72849156

Involuntary part timers have been cut in half under Obama

>>72848737
>>72848488
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>>72848916
Obama wasn't presidnent in 2006.

U3 and U6 have plummeted by HALF under Obama.
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just a reminder that obama finally got unemployment back to where bush had it... that's all. oh, and it hit 10% under obama.
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>>72847588
>if you can service the debt.

Therein lies the concern people have.
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>>72848737

And again, the reason the unemployment is going down is because the perma-neets who don't get counted in those statistics. I have no idea why you would disregard that when it's brought up every single time.
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>>72849183
Holy shit you're fucking retarded man.

You're seriously mentally handicapped.

>Boomers are already retired retard, they aren't retiring now, they're dropping dead like flies.

HOLY SHIT THIS FUCKING MORON!!!

“Each day,10,000 baby boomers retire and begin receiving Medicare and Social Security benefits.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2014/07/24/do-10000-baby-boomers-retire-every-day/

10,000 EVERYDAY.

How can you be so stupid?
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>>72848900
Cost of living - food & rent?

Savings rate of average Americans?

Jobs are something that can be created on paper and still not exist in reality
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>>72849420

10k in a population of 300 million, it's fucking nothing.
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>>72849351

Bush also had had the worst financial crisis under his watch due to Wall Street irregulation.

While it did begin with Clinton, the junk bond speculation expanded with Bush.
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>>72848900
and yet everyone's mad. a social democrat just turned the Democrats upside down, and a goddamn reality star advocating for hard protecionism is melting the Republican party completely.

You see, its great to have a discussion with someone that is bullish on the US economy, its a good way to argue about, and clear out your position, but you are just the most unsufferable, dishonest autistic motherfucker I had the displeasure to see in a long time.
You're incapable of going beyond a partisanship view of this, and incapable of understanding the simple idea that both parties, incumbent presidents and congresses were terrible, and that the 2008 crisis and previous and late fallout are all the result of actions that completely surpass any presidential or governmental action
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>>72849404
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And again, the reason the unemployment is going down is because the perma-neets who don't get counted in those statistics.

WTF are you talking about?

How retarded can you be?

The unemployment rate is going down because 14 million jobs have been created.

When baby boomers retire, THEY LEAVE THE LABOR FORCE.

Are you talking about discouraged workers?

HAVE YOU EVER STOPPED TO LOOK AT U4 UNEMPLOYMENT. READ THE CHART MORON.

Holy shit why are right wingers such retards?

READ THE CHART THEN THANK ME FOR THE EDUCATION.
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>>72849636
Congress controls the budget and effects growth more than the executive
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>>72848525
Yes under Obama. in late 2015 we just gained back all the jobs we lost in the recession. Why isn't the entire media hailing Obama for that? Because 75% of the jobs he created are part time service related jobs. The american dream is gone and that chart explains in concrete evidence why.
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>>72849351
Clinton left Bush 3.9% unemployment.
Bush left Obama 7.8% unemployment that hit 10% within 6 months.
Obama got it back down to 5%.

What's the point of electing Republicans when all they do is crash the economy?
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>>72849156

LOOK AT THE FUCKING GRAPH HERE: >>72848779


In January of 2009, the labor participation rate was 65.7% (at least one metric that isn’t better now than when he took office) and the unemployment rate was 7.8%. Were the labor participation rate 65.7% today, the unemployment rate would be 9.7%. In other words, the entire improvement in the unemployment rate since President Obama took office (from 7.8% to 5.7%) is due to a decline in labor participation. Had labor participation held steady, unemployment would be 9.7%.
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>>72848900
This faggot always focuses on job numbers, yet discounts any other metrics of economic health.
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>>72846573
Spending (budgets) comes from Congress, not the Presidency.
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>>72849710
I love how you retards change the argument from one failed talking point to another.

You mean the GOP Congress that predicted the Obama stimulus and Obamacare would be a job killer?

Yet we've had 73 straight months of job creation since.

You can't oppose everything Obama did, claim it would be an economic disaster, and then take credit for it when you were wrong.

Fucking right wing retards man.
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>>72849736
Republicans are the ones who controlled congress
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>>72849833

THE FAGGOT DOESNT EVEN UNDERSTAND THE JOBS NUMBERS
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>>72845496
Kill yourself.
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>>72849722
95% full time actually.

And yes it's a 75% service job economy.

Programmers, IT, architects, engineers, actors, athletes, truck drivers, cops, plumbers, real estate agents, mortgage brokers, those are all service jobs retard.
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>>72849890
And who passed the stimulus? Is obama a king? And you call me retarded
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>>72849264

Pumping cocaine into the stock market through quantitative easing and artificially low interest rates in order to force a fake recovery.

What amazing monetary policy!

The market was never allowed to fully correct in 2008.

Look what happened to the stock market when the fed raised the rates *******0.25%******** a quarter of a fucking percent.

2016 has been one of the worst starts to the year ever!
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DAILY REMINDER THAT THIS LEAF SAYS THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER

HE WILL CALL YOU A

"RETARD"
"MORON"
"TRUMPTARD"
"RIGHT WING"

AND

MOVES GOALPOSTS
IGNORES ACTUAL FED DATA
IGNORES NORMAL POSTERS
STILL DOESN'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IS CALCULATED

HE WANTS YOU TO RESPOND

IGNORE AND REPORT THIS THREAD
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>>72845496
I sure love that all those jobs went to illegals.

I love working at walmart and mcdonalds :)

Go smoke some maple leaves.
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>>72849753
>Had labor participation held steady, unemployment would be 9.7%.

So not 1 baby boomer has been allowed to retire since January 2009?

How fucking retarded are you?

How fucking stupid can you be to not understand that when BABY BOOMERS RETIRE THEY LEAVE THE LABOR FORCE.

HOLY FUCKING SHIT.

WHY DID YOU THINK THE CLFPR WENT DOWN?
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>>72849573
Based Portugal
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>>72845496
Stupid fucking leaf. Under president nig-nog, economic growth has been <3% for his entire term. That's the measure of how the economy has grown (or contracted).
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>>72850041
the unemployment rate doesn't matter

the fact is wages and the economy are stagnant

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/01/15/the-chart-that-explains-everything/
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/8/14/1411883/-Behind-the-Numbers-The-Anatomy-of-a-Low-Wage-Recovery
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/09/16/poverty-wages-remain-stagnant-despite-economic-recovery

summary
>Obama cut spending taking demand out of the economy
>deficits don't matter
>Obama created trillions bailing out wall street
>buyback bubble in stockmarket
>cut federal funds rate to nothing
>wages stagnant
>shitty low wage jobs
>outsourcing
>mass immigration
>Goldman Sachs now owns the entire economy
>economy now stagnant

These are liberal sources btw so good luck saying "das raciss"
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Yes your chart shows that Bush crashed the economy. What's your point?

Wages are rising retard.
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>>72849948
You're just mad that America is succeeding under a black president.
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>>72845496
Implying a politician can do anything other than steal money from everybody and give part of it to their closest friends.
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>>72849990
Democrats did.

So you admit you're a retard.
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>>72850232
You mean the democrat house and senate
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>>72847650
That's not how you spell m80 m8
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>>72849736
WOW these are some shitty stats you have. Just blatantly false. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, Clinton left bush 4% UE which stayed steady until fucking 9/11. After that it peaked around 6.3 about 1.5 years after 9/11 and eventually fell to 4.7/5.0 towards the end of his presidency. Obama inherited a 5.0 UE rate.

In one year under Obama it reached 7.8, a year after that it was at 9.8 and holding steady. 5 YEARS after Obama took office the UE rate was still at 8.0! Now it's finally back to what Bush left him with. Finally.

http://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet
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>>72850034
Stock market is overvalued. It has to correct. Wtf are you bitching about? It can't go up forever. This is a chart of job creation. You're obviously retarded.
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>>72850232
why the demand for $15 an hour then?
>inb4 #NOTALLWAGES
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>>72849636

Ah ok I was wrong on that, but still Americans are getting fucked. Look at the debt and median incomes and all this shit.

>>72849573

Fuck just look at the debt alone.

Yeah when Obama injects stolen debt money into the economy at a full retard rate things can be ok, but when America actually has to pay it and the interest off they're fucked.

The QE shit was the retard mistake of the century and will Obama will go down in history (along with Bush) as the retard that fucked America over and killed their global domination.
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>>72847058
> wa-wa-wait! Its about to crash you'll see!
> thefinalbubble.com
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>>72850323
I am not the one asserts that the president is some sort of magican who magically controls the economy,budget and job growth. Fact of the matter is 2010 is when the greatest growth is according to your own charts just around the time when republicans got control of the house and took a bit of the senate
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>>72850041
>STILL DOESN'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IS CALCULATED


Yeah I do. You guys are the fucking morons that think the unemployment rate is 42% and there are 93 million Americans unemployed.

You're too fucking retarded to know that WHEN BABY BOOMERS RETIRE THEY LEAVE THE LABOR FORCE.

I posted every measure from U3 to U6.

>>72849315

Nice projection bro. You're the retards who don't understand how unemployment works. You think it's fake because a black man is president.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRO1nS0Wo-A

Donald Trump says U.S. has 93 million people 'out of work,' but that's way too high
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/aug/31/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-us-has-93-milion-people-out-work/

Donald Trump says the unemployment rate may be 42 percent
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/aug/31/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-us-has-93-milion-people-out-work/
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>>72850093

What now fag?
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>>72850378
>WOW these are some shitty stats you have
>Obama inherited a 5.0 UE rate.


No he didn't. You're a fucking retard.

Obama inherited a 5% unemployment rate?

Seriously are you in a mental hospital right now?
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>>72850678
Once again obama does not control employment
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>>72850438
Because corporations can afford them.

They made $7 TRILLION in profits last year.
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>>72850547

And you don't understand that the number of working age millenials has risen more than the number of boomers leaving the work force.

Workforce participation is more important than any unemployment statistics.
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>>72850678
Also >2010
Thanks republican house
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>>72850486
>Ah ok I was wrong on that,

No problem. I can honestly appreciate when people admit they're wrong so I appreciate that.

Most of these right wing retards are clueless and completely closed to new information.

Thanks Leafbro.
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>>72850536
Right wing retards want the economy to crash. They literally want their country to fail. They've been programmed to hate America. >>72847058
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>>72850734

Even if he did create the jobs the overall increase was fucking negligable. Also he ovrwhelmingly created shit jobs while people lost high paying middle class jobs.

This is all the leaf fag can credit him with a fucking non-exist rate of job growth. Discounting the debt and the decline in median income and everything else.
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>>72845496
Hello Ontarian NEET syrupnigger

Has mommy fed you your chicken tendies yet?
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>increase employment
>GDP stays the same and cost of living increases
keked
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>>72850854

Over here faggot: >>72850558
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>>72845496
Barack HUSSEIN Obama is one of the WORST Presidents ever, and note I voted for the guy.
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>>72850678
Copy-paste my link, faggot. My data is straight from the US Department of Labor, and yours sources some stlouisfed.org bullshit that I don't know and likely isn't a reliable source since it disagrees with the fucking BLS.
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>>72850941
He is a autistic shill he will never address it
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>>72850745

You have no idea how markets work buddy.

Raising the minimum wage to 15$ kills America's competitive efficacy on a global level. Corporations can't afford it if they can't compete with other countries on a competitive level.

A 15$ minimum wage will run a large number of businesses out of businesses, it'll move more businesses overseas and it'll put more Americans out of work. Guaranteed.
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>>72847589
Fucking kek save this shit and spam it
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>>72847589
move along anons

OP has been btfo as an outed shill

does he do it for free?
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>>72850558
Yeah the 25-54 participation rate has been falling since 2000 and is exactly where it was in Reagan's 2nd term. What's your point?

It's been going down because people are staying in post-secondary school longer and going back to get another education more frequently in the middle of their careers.

I'm about to B you TFO so please be ready for this.

YOU DO FUCKING REALIZE THAT THE BLS REPORTS WHY PEOPLE ARE NOT IN THE LABOR FORCE RIGHT? HOLY SHIT LOOK AT THIS CHART.

YOU JUST GOT BTFO.

SO TELL ME AGAIN RETARD. WHY DO YOU THINK THE CLFPR WENT DOWN?
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>>72850283
You are just sad that you are a fucking leaf.

Canada, our retarded, faggot cousin to the North.
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>>72850547
>You think it's fake because a black man is president.
why keep bringing race into it?
your obsession with presidents in weird
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>>72850678
FUCKING LOL I JUST CHECKED YOUR SOURCE AND IT FUCKING AGREES WITH ME YOU RETARDED FAGGOT. BUSH LEFT OBAMA A 5.0 UNEMPLOYMENT RATE. GET FUCKED.
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>>72850779
You mean the GOP Congress that predicted the Obama stimulus and Obamacare would be a job killer?

Yet we've had 73 straight months of job creation since.

You can't oppose everything Obama did, claim it would be an economic disaster, and then take credit for it when you were wrong.

Fucking right wing retards man.

Also, the entire turnaround was thanks to the Obama stimulus.

Obama literally averted another Republican Great Depression.
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>>72850392

I was replying to you in general.

Did you ever stop to think this "job creation" might have something to do with the over inflated stock market.

You a stupid beyond belief.
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>>72845496

HAHAHAHAHAHA.

One day this will stop right? You will eventually stop posting this right? You are a sane individual right?
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>>72850854

Right wingers are actually biologically inclined to be more fretful and to worry more about the future. There has actually been research on this and it's fairly consistent across regions as well, and it explains the fairly consistent split between liberal and conservative parties in every nation across the globe. It's fairly interesting, I'd recommend looking into it.

And yes things are going to crash hard. Look at that debt bro, it's been said a thousand times already but I'll keep saying it until you listen. The debt is going to anal fuck America there's no way around it.
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>>72851166

The survey that the BLS uses to determine the number of jobs the economy creates (the Establishment Survey) is very different from the survey it uses to determine the unemployment rate (the Household Survey). The Establishment Survey measures the number of jobs the economy created. The Household Survey measures the number of people employed. The numbers never match up. In part this is due to differences in survey methodology. In part, it’s due to what they measure.

For example, in January the Household Survey found that there were 7.5 million people working multiple jobs. While such individuals work at least two jobs, the Household Survey counts them as one person with a job. In other words, when calculating the unemployment rate, the BLS counts 7.5 million people as employed who account for at least 15 million jobs.

Both surveys do consider part time and full time jobs equivalent. So, in calculating the both the number of jobs the economy has created and the unemployment rate, the BLS considers someone working 2 hours a week just as employed as someone working 40 hours a week. The employees certainly wouldn’t consider these jobs equivalent, but they are equivalent for purposes of the official unemployment rate.

While the number of jobs the economy creates is certainly important, for purposes of determining the health of our labor market, both the quality of those jobs and the number of people who are actually working are even more important. The BLS does report a measure of unemployment that considers those who have looked for a job in the past 12 months and those working part time who want a full time job as unemployed. January’s unemployment rate for this group was 11.3%.
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>>72851344
The republican congress is the one who managed to get americans working funny how obamas stimulus only starts to work under a republican congress lol
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>>72851299
>BUSH LEFT OBAMA A 5.0 UNEMPLOYMENT RATE. GET FUCKED.

Guys cmon? I know he's one of your right wing retards but can you please calling out for being an extra special autistic right wing retard.

Why don't you take a look at that chart again there champ.

>>72850678

Please admit you're an autist.

I can't fathom the mental retardation it must take to think that BUsh left Obama 5% unemployment. >>72850976
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>>72851166

>vast swathes of people accumulating mountains of debt for worthless gender studies degrees instead of working

Don't worry Goy, that's not a problem at all.
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>>72849982
We lost a lot of high paying and median paying jobs and just because you think people would believe everything they see in the media there are people who don't and want an intellectual answer to that question. And believe me, the intellectual answer destroys Obama. Obama really did a shitty job compared to any other president besides Bush. Don't be so sure about Obama's place in history. We will tell our kids the truth and Obama will be our last black president.
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>>72851154
December?
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>>72850745
7 trillion divided by the number of employees times $15 times 40 times number of days in a year worked comes out to be what again?

now add benefits to that total for the same number of workers

once we get that figured, we can move on to payroll taxes, SS, medicaid, state taxes, etc
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>>72847638
>tripled the debt

Tripling 1 trillion to 3 trillion is nothing compared to tripling 5.5 trillion. Even with inflation adjusted
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>>72851563
Your own source agrees with him
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>>72851586
So you agree with Bernie's plan for free college. That's good.
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>>72851344

All he did was postpone the correction you idiot.

Now its going to be a hell of a lot worse when it does happen. Obama just continued Bush's bullshit.
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>>72851643
>9.8
It's 6.8 now
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>>72851732

Handing off the debt from individuals to the unborn tax payers +mountains of interest is even worse.
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>>72851700
This chart shows Bush left Obama 5% unemployment?

>>72850678

You retards don't even know your numbers from 1-10.

Ok now I know you guys are fully mentally handicapped.

Holy shit. Have any of you passed grade 1?
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>>72850957
b-b-but, did you see how many "jobs" he created?!
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>>72851643
yours doesnt even have months

besides it was just b8 to get a reply from you
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>>72851081
Here's how market work.
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>>72850957
Fucking cuckold, kill yourself.
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>>72851563
STOP looking just at pictures and go to the actual sources. For some idiotic reason your image starts between 1-2 years AFTER Obama took office. You're either too stupid to read (would explain why you can't just follow my links to official government sources), or you're deliberately misleading.
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Over here faggot: >>72851454

If you, a family member or anyone is unemployed and has subsequently given up on finding a job -- if you are so hopelessly out of work that you've stopped looking over the past four weeks -- the Department of Labor doesn't count you as unemployed. That's right. While you are as unemployed as one can possibly be, and tragically may never find work again, you are not counted in the figure we see relentlessly in the news -- currently 5.6%. Right now, as many as 30 million Americans are either out of work or severely underemployed. Trust me, the vast majority of them aren't throwing parties to toast "falling" unemployment.

There's another reason why the official rate is misleading. Say you're an out-of-work engineer or healthcare worker or construction worker or retail manager: If you perform a minimum of one hour of work in a week and are paid at least $20 -- maybe someone pays you to mow their lawn -- you're not officially counted as unemployed in the much-reported 5.6%. Few Americans know this.

Yet another figure of importance that doesn't get much press: those working part time but wanting full-time work. If you have a degree in chemistry or math and are working 10 hours part time because it is all you can find -- in other words, you are severely underemployed -- the government doesn't count you in the 5.6%. Few Americans know this.


Gallup defines a good job as 30+ hours per week for an organization that provides a regular paycheck. Right now, the U.S. is delivering at a staggeringly low rate of 44%, which is the number of full-time jobs as a percent of the adult population, 18 years and older. We need that to be 50% and a bare minimum of 10 million new, good jobs to replenish America's middle class.

http://www.gallup.com/opinion/chairman/181469/big-lie-unemployment.aspx
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>>72851848
>bitches about everything
>jumps from one topic to the next
>agrees with all the facts I've presented.

You're a good lad.
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>>72845496
>that one Canadian Obama shill
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>>72851804
>>72851804
>>72851804

Yep I can't wait! More tax cuts for the rich!
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>>72851889
When did Obama take office? Do you even know that?
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>>72851680
>thinks debt was 5.5 trillion when Obama took office
>being this fucking retarded
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>>72851889
Labor stats show unemployement was about 5% theoughout his presidency
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All these brain dead liberal retards who actually believe the economy isn't rigged defending a man who spends billions on bombs and drones to kill children. You collectivist trendy retards are basically insects at this point, killing you would be no different than stepping on a cockroach.
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>>72851951
who the fuck is the Tax Justice Network?
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>>72852105
Yeah better than bernie who will reduce the average after tax income income by 13% including the poor. Good thing cucks like you are irrelevant and he has no shot
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>>72852033

Do you even know what point you're trying to make anymore?

You got BTFO here

>>72851166

So now you're just pasting copypasta from BLS.

Yes the BLS counts full time as 35 hours+. It's been that way for decades.

95% Obama job creation has been full time.

The reasons why people are not in the labor force are right here.

>>72851166

SO TELL ME AGAIN RETARD. WHY DO YOU THINK THE CLFPR WENT DOWN?

Also, will you admit Trump is mentally handicapped for thinking the unemployment rate is 42%?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRO1nS0Wo-A
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>>72852146
Hello shillary
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>>72852146
I'm using it as an example. I don't mean it literally. but regardless my point still stands. 3 trillion tripled is 9 trillion.

But if you triple 9 trillion you're looking at 27 trillion.

To triple debt as much as Obongo did is still a lot of a larger feat, and actually involves more money than Reagan would have.
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>>72852105
Jeb?
please match it up with Hillary's platform or how about Obama's?
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>>72852390
You realize the yid whose nob you polished said real unemployment is at the same to right?
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>>72852342
Don't worry. The rich care about you. Just give them more money.

Work for less Trumptard. Also, we need you to be replaced by an H2B. Like at Maralago.

Trump's Mar-a-Lago hires hundreds of foreign workers
http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/18/news/economy/trump-maralago/index.html
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>>72852390
This idiot cannot be for real can he?
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>>72852056

I'm not jumping from topics at all.

What I've said has basically been:

>debt
>debt
>workforce participation
>QE was retarded
>debt
>workforce participation
>debt
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>>72852390
>>72852640
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg02n7tJfMM
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>>72852056
>>72852657

And Bernie's college plan would be payed for entirely by debt by the way. Any further government programs added at this point will be.
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>>72852438
As I've already made clear.

Obama is the slowest spender since Eisenhower.
>>72846350

Obama reduced the budget by 2/3.

>>72846573

Why don't you actually look at the source of the debt.

>>72848151
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>>72852390
It's 30 hours a week you lazy fuck
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>>72852816
Shoo shill
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>If you, a family member or anyone is unemployed and has subsequently given up on finding a job -- if you are so hopelessly out of work that you've stopped looking over the past four weeks -- the Department of Labor doesn't count you as unemployed. That's right. While you are as unemployed as one can possibly be, and tragically may never find work again, you are not counted in the figure we see relentlessly in the news -- currently 5.6%. Right now, as many as 30 million Americans are either out of work or severely underemployed. Trust me, the vast majority of them aren't throwing parties to toast "falling" unemployment.
Except ignoring those who aren't looking for work is completely intentional and actually makes sense. The point of the EU rate is to show how many people can't get a job despite *actively looking for one*. That number is a useful one to show the health of the economy.

The number of people who simply don't have a job is a fairly meaningless one, as it's difficult to determine whether they're jobless by choice (like say, housewives), they've "given up" on looking for work, or even if they desire a job in the first place.
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>>72852816
Obama doesen't control the budget. Neither did clintion. Both were under republican congresses
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>>72852816
This asshole nigger presidebt is the fastest spender if all time you fucker
Check out stimulus
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>>72852640
"She has been more specific about an overhaul of the immigration system at the outset of a Clinton presidency, promising to advance comprehensive reform that offers a path to full citizenship for illegal immigrants within her first 100 days.

“If Congress won’t act, I’ll defend President Obama’s executive actions and I’ll go even further to keep families together,” Clinton promised in January. “I’ll end family detention, close private immigrant detention centers and help more eligible people become naturalized.”

Clinton also has been mildly critical of Obama’s deportation program, promising to stop deportations of almost everyone"

it's gonna be great under Hillary. no need for H2Bs
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>>72852390

This is not hard to understand you leafy fuck:

The U.S. unemployment rate announced today plunged below 8%, from 8.1% to 7.8%. Economists had expected a rise to 8.2%. When 2 plus 2 doesn’t add up to 4, there is great skepticism…Has Washington adopted the Chinese method of producing economic growth: pressure the statisticians?

Do you smell a rotten fish somewhere? In China, the party bosses tell the statisticians the number they want, and magically, that’s the economic number they get. The big job creator, our president, now has the lowest unemployment rate since he took office. However, only 114,000 jobs were added in September versus a revised 142,000 in August. So, it actually worsened.

Now get this: The “household survey” showed a phenomenal gain of 873,000 in employment, the biggest since June 1983. However, 582,000 of these were part- time positions. How do they get that number? The government calls about 60,000 households and asks if people have worked the last month. If I were asked, I might ask, “what do you consider work? How many hours? For pay, or without compensation, etc? Does it count if I do something for a relative?”

We wonder what the specific question on the phone was? Like, “if you worked a few hours for your father in law, like helping him move a couch or mow the lawn, that counts as part time work.” (Believe it or not, it does! Furthermore, if one person had 5 part time jobs during the month, that’s counted as five new jobs. Apparently, it’s counted as a job even if there is no compensation.)

The so-called “under-employment rate”—which includes part- time workers who would prefer full-time and people who want work but aren’t looking—stayed at 14.7%. Obviously, there has not been a sudden rush of job creation. So, how is the sudden surge in part-time jobs possible?
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>>72852816
ADDRESS ME you faggot shill. Or can't you admit that your reading comprehension is so terrible you failed to notice the start point on your little picture didn't coincide with the beginning of Obama's presidency?
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>>72845496
Hitler was the best president correct.
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>>72853121

Understand, there are two numbers for people working: the Household Survey and the Payroll survey. The former is explained above. The payroll survey comes from businesses. That is also not exact because they don’t capture small businesses. So, the labor department “imputes” numbers, guesses, to adjust for that. Private payrolls rose by a terrible 104,000 in September versus 142,000 in August. That’s a big downturn in employment. Expectations were for an increase of 130,000. That makes the number of 873,000 even more suspicious.

Keep in mind, economists say the economy needs 200,000-250,000 new jobs created each month just to absorb the new people entering the labor force, such as school graduates, etc.

We are not the only ones skeptical about these numbers. Former CEO of General Electric, Jack Welch posted on Twitter: “Unbelievable jobs numbers. These Chicago guys will do anything. Can’t debate so change numbers.”

However, Labor Secretary Solis said on CNBC that she is “insulted” by the skepticism, and that it is “ludicrous.” She said these numbers are produced by “dedicated public servants.”

Well, even in China, top politicians admit their numbers are cooked by “public servants.”

Our opinion: the 873,000 is highly questionable. But this is nothing new. It’s been going on for decades. Just as in China, our economic statistics are more political than real. The calculation methods of major statistics, such as unemployment, inflation, etc. have been changed often over many years to fit the goals of the leadership. Why should anyone be surprised?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/investor/2013/11/19/fake-unemployment-report-shocker/#59af8c94eb36
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>>72852890
The number is a meaningless one when your whole recovery in that regard is based on waiters and bartenders, and millions aren`t even counted because it's hopeless for them.
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>>72852921

The Republican congress are bought and payed for conservatives by name only who bow down to every large industry imaginable, continually accept large increases in spending and are all around just the worst kind of crony-capitalist faggots imaginable.
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>>72852105
why is your pic a bad thing?

you think rich people care about tax cuts more than the favors jeb bush could give them? you are deluded
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>>72851958
My chart starts exactly when Obama took office.

How retarded are you?

You fucking right wing retards don't even know when Obama took office do you?

The unemployment rate was NOT 5% when he took office.

Seriously you right wing retards are only adding to my collection.
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>>72853218

Correct.
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>>72853286
Yep
He is leaftarded
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>>72853218
>President
American education everyone
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>>72847977
>32% of ""american"" population is on wellfare
>somehow it is wrong to say 93 million(1/3 of US pop) is unemployed
>using Politifact as a source
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>>72845496
He just duplicate the self debt, throwing gubermental jobs aka paid to do pointless shit. If that your idea of job creation....
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>>72847977
>Every day I make this chart
he even admits it
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>>72853223
I simply said the number is meaningful to economic health, not that it's concrete proof of such.
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>>72852552
The guy said Bush left Obama 5% unemployment. That's completely wrong.

>>72852642

You're talking about Trump right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRO1nS0Wo-A

>>72852847
No BLS tracks fulltime as 35+hours a week. I even put the screenshot in.
You're obviously a right wing retard. I mean the screenshot from BLS is right fucking there.

>>72852390
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>>72847589

Whew is he one of the famed payed Hillary shills?

Hot damn that is dedication.
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Thinking nigger made jobs even though the government almost shut down. It was businesses like trump that fixed this
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>>72853244
What does that have to do with them reducing the deficit that you despartely try to give credit to the executive you like
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>>72853437
I know he was the Chancellor of Germany.I was begin sarcastic.
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>>72853121
>>72853121

You're gone full mental handicap. You've completely lost it. You don't even know what you're arguing anymore.

You're just spamming copypasta.

I already explained earlier that the U6 rate is the under-employment rate. It's been cut in half under Obama. Pic related.

So wtf is your point?

I posted all rates from U3 to U6.


>>72848737

Btw the U6 is down to 9.8% You pasted something from like 2010.

Those people are in the labor force though.

So I'll give you one more chance because you're obviously a right wing retard.

One more chance.

SO TELL ME AGAIN RETARD. WHY DO YOU THINK THE CLFPR WENT DOWN?
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>>72852490
It wasn't about Jeb. It was about Trump's tax plan. Holy shit I'm dealing with full blown mental handicaps here.
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>>72845496

Yeah thanks for nearly $20 trillion in US national debt. I'm surprised the USA isn't bankrupt. Or maybe it is but ignored that and chose to carry on anyway.
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>>72852921
Clinton left Bush a $230 BILLION surplus. What happened to it?

>inb4 it was fake bcuz im a right wing retard
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>>72853837
>You're just spamming copypasta.
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>>72845496
the right keeps tanking the economy, the left fixes it
republicans bitch and say we need republicans in office because we need better fiscal management
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>>72853390
Ameritards think Bush left Obama 5% unemployment. Right wing retards cannot even perform a 2 second google search. That's how fucking retarded you are.
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>>72853837
>spamming copypasta
>spamming
>copypasta

OP did it! through the looking glass!
KEK
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>>72853462
>somehow it is wrong to say 93 million(1/3 of US pop) is unemployed

So Trump thinks my 80 year old grandma is unemployed?

The man is mentally unfit for office.

>>72851166
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>>72854110
>retard
denigrating the handicapped is ok when its against someone you do not like?

outed as a shill, a hypocrite, and a bigot
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>>72853661
Yeah I have like 100 victories over right wing retards everyday.

I'm just adding collections for my folder of right wing retards.

These motherfuckers think the unemployment rate is 42% and there are 93 GORILLION unemployed. I mean you people are obviously mentally handicapped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRO1nS0Wo-A

Donald Trump says U.S. has 93 million people 'out of work,' but that's way too high
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/aug/31/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-us-has-93-milion-people-out-work/

Donald Trump says the unemployment rate may be 42 percent
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/aug/31/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-us-has-93-milion-people-out-work/
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>>72852816
>Obama reduced the budget by 2/3.
>future spending
promising to increase the budget less in the future isnt saving
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>>72853734

Reducing the deficit doesn't mean shit.

Their impact on the debt as a whole is what matters.

The US is in a crisis situation and needs to get a handle on the debt NOW. Staying at current deficit levels, or even reducing it by a third every few years will lead to an all out crash eventually, and unfortunately it seems like that's what will inevitably happen.
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>>72854459

technically it is
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>>72854137
>>72854294

I have over 60 unique posts in this thread.

WTF R U ON ABOUT RIGHT WING RETARDS?
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>>72846350
>obama '10-13
>starting every president without their first fiscal year that they are in charge of because reasons
>not understanding that slow growth =/= reduction. It's just a slower marginal growth than before.
Take for example a household in which one parent spends lavishly and increases their outstanding debt from 20% of what they make in a year to 50%. Then his or her spouse takes over and increases their outstanding debt to 60% of what they make. While the first person did much more damage, the second should not be lauded for increasing the overall percentage but by a slower rate.

It's the reason why there's very little if any love for Bush or Reagan (outside of the latters image as a 'take no prisoners conservative') They were spend happy and would fit within the definition of being a neocon.
So yes, Obama didn't increase the growth rate of spending more that Bush, however the Congressional budgets that he has approved have been incredibly loose with the nations purse strings, and have inflated the overall debt to levels even Bushy Boy would have gawked at
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Why do leaf fags constantly get involved in America's politics on this board? Are they upset because they're country has never done anything relevant?
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oh great its this leaf shill again

did Justin pay you directly for this shit?
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>>72854247
THIS
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>>72854356
Being as stupid as these right wing retards is a legit medical emergency.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRO1nS0Wo-A

I was being kind. Quite frankly they should probably be euthanized.
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how many people here think trump will run up the debt?

I do. big time
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>>72853837

> It's been cut in half under Obama

Look at the graph you fucking jew.
Unlike the “official” jobless rate, the Labor Department’s so-called “U-6” unemployment rate includes those working part time but who want a full-time job and can’t find one. The U-6 rate stood at 11.2 percent in December, nearly double the official rate.

Mr. Obama’s claim of a robust jobless rate takes no account of the record 92.9 million Americans no longer in the labor force. The labor participation rate was 62.7 percent in December, a 38-year low that recalled the “economic malaise” of the Carter presidency.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Can you not comprehend the above?

Inb4 Boomers Again : >>72852033
If you, a family member or anyone is unemployed and has subsequently given up on finding a job -- if you are so hopelessly out of work that you've stopped looking over the past four weeks -- the Department of Labor doesn't count you as unemployed. That's right. While you are as unemployed as one can possibly be, and tragically may never find work again, you are not counted in the figure we see relentlessly in the news -- currently 5.6%. Right now, as many as 30 million Americans are either out of work or severely underemployed. Trust me, the vast majority of them aren't throwing parties to toast "falling" unemployment.

There's another reason why the official rate is misleading. Say you're an out-of-work engineer or healthcare worker or construction worker or retail manager: If you perform a minimum of one hour of work in a week and are paid at least $20 -- maybe someone pays you to mow their lawn -- you're not officially counted as unemployed in the much-reported 5.6%.
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>>72854686

its confirmed, look at his tax policy
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Cant wait for President Trump for all the shill tears to flow
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>>72854686
rewpublicans won't even notice
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>>72854573
Obama did not save the economy. He took data that trends (the same in every presidency) and made it look like he saved it.

Obama didn't do shit. He needs to get his money back from whoever taught him economics and law.
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>>72854459
>>72854561

Inherits a $1.4 TRILLION budget deficit from Bush.

It's now down to about $500B.

Right wing retards can't math.

Barack Obama claims deficit has decreased by two-thirds since taking office

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jan/20/barack-obama/barack-obama-claims-deficit-has-decreased-two-thir/
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>>72846350
>George W
>stimulus included

all of my wat?
also
>2013
>current year
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>>72845496
The only change he brought to America was shilling for the TPP, which ends democracy as we know it

www.citizen.org/TPP
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>>72854715

>he thinks the unemployment numbers are made up

that system has been in place since before reagan
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>>72854778
yeah, it doesn't matter when the republicans do it.
when trump leaves, if dems get elected, they'll cry bloody murder about the debt
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>>72854809
wew lad

Do you even know how bad the economy was after 8 years of the last GOP President? Were you born yet?
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>>72845496
I don't understand how the president has anything to do with employment..
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>>72854686
$24.5 TRILLION at least.
Trump’s Tax Cuts Would Add $24.5 Trillion to the Debt
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/12/23/Trump-s-Tax-Cuts-Would-Add-245-Trillion-Debt

These idiots fall for the tax cut meme every time.
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