I'm a member of the Bavarian Parliamentm the Landtag of Munich.
You often wonder why we accepted Refugees so readily.
As for the CDU, it hasn't much to do with humanitarian reasons. It is simply demography. Despite our best efforts to attract immigratian from European countries, we still end up spending 40% of our budget more or less on pensions and healthcare for the elderly.
I neither can nor want to tell you more. Decide for yourself what to do with this piece of information.
The babble that Merkel is an altruist or cultural Marxist and whatnot is unbearable. Look at the way she is treating Greece or the Syrian refugees at the Turkish border.
She is a pragmatic, somewhat cold politician that knew exactly about the risks of mass immigration.
>>72607337
So why haven't you killed her and driven all the invaders from your land?
Solves both problems.
is es wahr, dass Sie Moslems die allgemeine Bevölkerung machen wollen
It's like taking cyanide to treat headache
>>72607337
If you and Merkel are so smart, then how come you only invite people who've proven multiple times that they are not only too lazy but also too incompetent to work.
If a CDU politician seriously thinks that the cockroaches will pay into the social funds, he should be sent to the loony bin.
>>72607572
It is the opposite. They plan to overwhelm and crash the model.
>>72607337
>treating demographic problems by creating demographic problems
Yeah no.
If that's what my gov believes, it's time to become a refugee.
>>72607337
So instead of cutting spending and encouraging Germans to have kids with tax benefits you commit suicide by taking in millions and millions of africans and arabs?
brilliant!
>>72607337
And then we will spend 40% or more on pensions, healthcare and welfare for mudslimes. What a brilliant plan.
>>72607512
How do you look in the mirror and not spontaneously vomit?
>>72607337
so why not invest in programs to convince Germans to have more kids?
>>72607337
>It is simply demography. Despite our best efforts to attract immigratian from European countries, we still end up spending 40% of our budget more or less on pensions and healthcare for the elderly.
So it's fear that you will end up facing a firing squad because you led this country into mass poverty?
>>72607947
Come on over to burgerland.
>>72607337
>thinking third world niggers will pay taxes or pension one day
>thinking having a 20% male surplus is demographically a good thing and no death sentence to your country
My god politicians are really that retarded.
>>72607337
Bullshit. You should have taken in south African refugees if this was the case. The afrikaaners are being rejected by Europe.
>>72608157
because I'm handsome
>>72607337
Why is she pushing migration to other countries too?
>>72608402
>because I'm handsome
>>72608166
It's not about money. It would require big reforms in the whole society so people don't see family as a hinderance for their career and lilfestyle. The BRD has proved over and over again that it is unable to reform. The political system, parties, union, the bureaucracy etc. are too stiff.
>>72608414
Because she wants to become head of the UN.
>>72608358
Refugees make at most 1% of the total population, so its 20% of 1% which is 0,2% male surplus in the total population.
Not ideal but hardly the end of the world.
>>72608457
I would fuck both of them 2bh
>>72608462
but you do realize that your solution is unsustainable right? Even if you choose to completely ignore the fact that German people will no longer exist this way, what happens when most of the world is below replacement? Because that the trend. Even India has birthrathes approaching 2.0
What happens when even developing countries need immigration to sustain their population?
>>72607337
Thats not a believable story Adolf!
>>72607337
You already have millions of migrants from Turkey and Eastern Europe, maybe its time to actually fix the reasons causing the low birth rates in Germany?
>>72608596
>I would fuck him
>>72607337
If socialist state is to continue its existence in Europe, immigration is a must. It's that simple, always has been.
>>72608601
>but you do realize that your solution is unsustainable right?
Yes, I just wanted to explain why our government is not making programs for more german babies.
Also I wouldn't mind if we would use the automatization we have instead of creating even more low wage job. Every cashier in the west only has work because he is cheaper than a self-service station.
>>72608414
bilderberg
If you recall just prior to the last meetings. Merkel was patting some crying girl on the head telling her she simply can't allow refugees.
Then she did a 180 and it went full bore.
This post is for the germancuck that fought a nigger with a knife.
If you are here read this, fag
>>72605546
A kitchen knife enough to kill you so you did well. Dont listen to the brave neets in this thread, sure they know how to fight in GTAV.
About avoiding a fight it depends entirely in what kind of fight you are involved and agaisnt who you are fighting. An example, if I fight an spaniard in my same social condition, I would fight him without a doubt because I know there is a high chance to be a fair fight. If I am going to fight a rich kid (you know the typical fucker with money that is always with friends but know how to fitght) i would fight him but with precaution because I know these faggots can't stand 1v1 and his friends sure defend him... Still there is a chance they will pussy out. If I am going to fight a nigger, moor gypsy or sudaca I would try to avoid the fight because these people are animals without honor. They rarely fight 1v1, they sure use a weapon, and in the case of gypsies and moors, and maybe sudacas there is a high chance that after you win they will come with much more people after you.
This is the big difference between Europeans and subhumans. Whe fight alone and once the fight is done, it is done. But if you fight a gypsy or a moor (my experience) they will come with their families and friends, and you xant do nothing about it but hide until the shit goes calm again.
Then, as you said, he had a knife. Do you know how to defend yourself agaisnt such huge knife? No, right? Then you did well avoiding the fight.
Just an advice. Once you are in fight with someone go full troglodyte without any compassion. The worst thing you can do is doubt in the middle of the fight. Just bring back the neanderthal in you and smash the motherfuckers.
>>72608593
>total population
I'm talking productive and reproducing age group.
>>72608810
Also not the refugees have 20% male surplus, they are almost all male.
The 20% is the surplus in the male population in Germany in age group 18-35.
>>72608593
>at most 1%
>1.5 million rapefugees entered last year alone
>in a country of 81 million
>on top of millions of arabs and africans already there
thats a lot more than 1% of population in rapefugees alone, not even including what trash is already piled up in Germany.
>>72607337
And your plan did not work But you still pathologically follow it . WHY because you actually believe in multiculturalism. You are a Cultural Marxist.
>let's spend Billions on welfare for uneducated violent Muslims to pay for social security
I don't believe anyone really believes this
>>72608750
sorry I thought you were OP, didn't check the ID.
Governments are really shortsighted.
>>72608906
I think they do. I am glad I sold all my German stock when their government decided a DAX listed company must have a certain quota of incompetent retards in their board if they happen to have the right gender.
>>72608462
You are only starting to see this! what have you been doing in the past pandering to them no doubt.Buying all their Politically correct treachery You (and Politicians around the world)have helped create this beast.
>>72608906
Does anyone know how exactly this is meant to work? How do millions of unskilled third-worlders help pay for anything?
>>72607337
if this is the reason you are a bunch of deluded fat assholes
>>72607337
You won't fix demographics without making the CDU anti-feminist and anti-egalitarian, which means the bad islamic terrorists have won either way.
>>72607337
Everyone knows that though?
Nobody believes Merkel actually gives one shit about poor shitskins.
>>72607337
Have you ever thought about maybe not having the sexual education consist of
>If you don't use condoms you will literally die and pregnancy is worse than cancer, all girls should have a career instead
?
Because importing gypsies and sandpiggers surely won't solve that problem. Actually, if you import someone in their thirties who isn't a highly skilled professional it won't help either, even if they do work, because they will still consume more than they have paid into it in the long run.
>>72608870
Don't forget about unregistered illegal immigration which is a huge problem nobody talks about.
>>72607337
> Despite our best efforts to attract immigratian from European countries, we still end up spending 40% of our budget more or less on pensions and healthcare for the elderly.
>implying you let European migrants in
how about setting up tax reliefs for families with 2+ children you incompetent fuck.
>>72609123
You can't turn back bug catching family destroying hookup culture with sexed, you would have to ban women voting first. Not going to happen.
>>72609044
I think their only hope is meme magic.
too bad meme magic only works for us racist nazi /pol/iticos
>>72608166
>>72608086
>>72607947
>>72608071
All of this would require time and ressources, and it's not aligned with the interests of corperations who just want cheap labour.
Politics nowadays isn't about long term solutions, but short term bandaids that prolong the inevitable collapse.
>>72607337
40% of your budget was on pensions and healthcare.
Now 80% of your budget will be dedicated to provide for and deal with useless refugees.
Basically, you're trying to plug a hole by digging an another one.
>>72608596
and what about the girl?
also
>let immigrants in
>they vote for you
Labour did the same thing
and they dont care about the social problems because they all live in wealthy neighbourhoods full of wealthy people, their kid isnt going to get beaten up or raped by a muslim so they dont give a fuck
this is exactly how they think
>>72607337
>We're forced to take in uneducated detritus from the middle east and Africa in order to pay for our pensions
That's wrong you fucking retard.
the kind of immigrants you're taking in en mass from the middle east and afirca are going to be a net drain on your country's economy and finances, just like they have been proven to be in Denmark.
If you wanted to fill Germany with workers there are CONSTANTLY people from india an the far east and Europe with education who are applying for visas and citizenship that you could automatically let into your country instead.
So not only is there a much better alternative for finding workers than letting in rapist africans and pakis and Iraqis, letting in those uneducated kinds of people who need much more money spent on them for german lessons, welfare, integration classes, and who cause much more crime and have much less skills as workers is actually a net burden on Germany.
>>72609180
>tax reliefs for families with 2+ children
Yeah, let's subsidize those muzzies who breed like cockroaches because their holy book commands them to.
>>72607337
Stop paying pensions for government employees and make them pay into regular social security ffs.
Merkel is commie scum. Here's one talking about commie tactics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK4OqCK5oxY
>>72609272
they get that already with kindergeld and other handouts.
tax reliefs would help middle class families who actually work you dumb fuck
>>72609200
>it's not aligned with the interests of corperations
Guess they will learn the hard way when they get taxed to death to pay for all the "new germans" they wanted so bad. guess importing millions who dont want to be good hard working people, but instead want free gibs me dats and to play on the prayer rug and football fields all day make shit workers.
yes I mad. fucking idiots.
>>72609195
Every unaccompanied """underage""" """refugee""" costs the state 60,000€ per year.
Even just offering half of that as a bonus for your first born child and another 25% for the second would be an infinitely better option than importing literal human waste.
Importing some goatfucker from Afghanistan will not do ANYTHING to improve the situation but just worsen it.
This!>>72608733 its a socialist state ergo Cultural Marxist state>>72607337 Id start there.
>>72609272
We went down the road too far, there is no easy way out anymore.
>>72609205
Germanys anual budget is 300 billion. The refugees cost 10-15 billion a year, absolute worst case is said to be around 40 billion if everything goes wrong.... so no, it´s not like suddenly 80% of our budget is needed for "refugees".
Still, we need to send this scum back, maybe let 100k here for cheap slave labour but the rest is not needed.
>>72609272
Give the tax cuts on the income tax. Tada, problem solved, none of them works anyway.
>>72609323
Tax handouts are always bad. As a German, you should know money is not meant to be spent.
>>72608777
Wonder what happens to people when they go to that meeting.
The zeal and dedication which politicians that have been to that meeting work on destroying the west is truly amazing.
I'd bet on brain transplant or some reptilian shape-shifter replacing them.
>>72607337
AFD will take over germany
Muslim and nigger immigrants rape
>>72608402
Lel. I may not like you, but that doesn't mean I don't appreciate humour. Noice.
>>72609353
What are the crime costs? And economic costs from Arabs attacking Germans and potentially injuring them so severely that they cannot work for a particular period of time? And the increased policing costs?
>>72607337
I don't get it. If you are going to say something JUST FUCKING SAY IT?
What was the whole plan behind this bullshit? If Merkel is so smart then why commit to something so stupid. Her political career has been severely damaged but the mass migration...
>>72607572
Cdu is useless vote AFD
>>72608166
they obviously take some masochistic pleasure in self-genocide, can't say i feel sorry for most of these arrogant yet self-hating bastards
>>72609353
Dont forget
>schools
>police
>hospitals
>housing
etc. you are going to need translators in school, and for everyone else, have to pay for german lessons, etc etc etc on top of paying for more police to watch these fuckers and hospitals to fix people that have been raped or beaten by them.
this will cost a shitload.
>annual budget of 300 billion
top kek
>>72607337
Kill yourself you useless tax payer money grabbing piece of shit
>>72609478
The AfD is literally the CDU of the 1980's. Not entirely bad, but not the savior of the Germans. I still advocate to vote them, there is no better option right now.
>>72608402
>demography
With Jews.....you win!
>>72607337
>>72607501
>>72607556
>>72607572
>>72607947
>>72608346
>>72608462
many people here don't get the point,
Merkel just tries the same thing that Lyndon Johnson did to the blacks in the 60's and Kohl did in the 80's/90's with the people from the former Sovjet Union.
They shit on everything with demography they just want a stable amount of voters. But what the CDU doesn't see is the fact the Muslims don't want to integrate. Maybe the 1. or 2. Generation will vote out of graditute form Mammi Merkel (like people still do for Kohl) but the 3. Generation will start to make demands and change the political spectrum to their demands
<- here some funny picture with cereals guy
>>72609342
B-but what about all them engineers, doctors and PhD graduates from Iraq and Syria?
>>72608071
>encouraging Germans to have kids with tax benefits
You can't have kids with tax benefits
TAX BENEFITS CAN'T EVEN CONSENT, RAPIST.
>>72609398
>>72609478
AfD might be nice guys, but I'm not going to vote someone who will only serve as a catalyst for further transgressions of foreign governments against the will of the German people.
>>72607337
In the other words, you meant that an economic welfare for you is more important than historical and cultural identity of your nation?
>>72608402
can i touch your peepee
>>72609630
>Germany
>historical and cultural identity
>>72609615
So you'll vote for no one?
>>72609568
You'll laugh, but they actually hold these degrees. The problem is that they are worthless in an actual society. It's not like the educational system of the Middle East is famous around the world.
>>72607504
Burger Deutsch, not even once.
>>72609630
>>72609656
Germans are taught in school that they don't have a culture and have to look up to niggers.
>>72609575
lol, thank you Germany.
I needed some fahnny to reduce ass hurt at What is happening to the land of my forefathers.
>>72609461
>>72609511
All the stuff you mentioned, so implyed extreme crime rates, cripples created and all costs like schools, police, hospitals and so on would be the worst case scenario of around 40 billion a year. It´s from a recent study from the "Allianz insurance company".
Everything you mentioned was part of that study.
to get some comparable numbers: germanys school system budget is around 15 billion, adding all free university stuff together with their research at adds up to around 70 billion believe I believe.
>>72609553
>>72607337
MAybe Germanys only hope is to embrace the Jews.
>they know how to make money alledgedly
>they know how to deal with muslims.
>apparently they control everything
>win/win
>>72609630
Why does no one get this - they can only think in terms of having a few more shekels, culture and happiness mean nothing to them
>>72609659
I'll vote for those who have proven they ignore the idiotic pleas our neighbours the most.
>>72609711
70 billion extra or total?
70 billion extra for 1.5 million future non tax payers is horrific when your yearly budget is barely 3 times that...
>>72609656
No one asked you, Ahmed.
>>72609700
German history ended in 1945. Ever since then, we sat at the back seat of history, ate up all the bullshit that came our way, and God help us if we didn't ask for seconds. Culturally, this country is a void. Everything cultural you see here has been produced by foreigners, mostly Americans. This Germany is not worth defending, it needs to be remodeled into something more powerful and more independent.
>>72607337
WE WILL KILL YOU ALL
>>72609511
Also what is so funny about >annual budget of 300 billion
top kek?
This is just the tax income I believe. Germanys revenue is 1.7 trillion, while the US revenue is 3.2 trillion. Doesn´t look too bad for US considering the difference in population. And the US has a deficit of around 0.5 trillion, while germany doesn´t.
>>72609666
I still think those people make up maybe 10% or so.
>>72607337
>Look at the way she is treating Greece
you mean spending hundreds of billions on greece?
68ers can go fuck themselves. No children, no pensions. Not that 2 million illiterate barbarians could pay their pensions.
>>72609700
>>72609740
The hell.
Is it really so bad?
I mean, that is terrible.
>>72609804
Burger, learn to fucking read. Total anual costs for refugees in a worst case scenario would be 40 billion a year. The current german school and university system for ALL GERMANS (and stupid minorities) costs 70 billion. It´s not 70 billion extra for the refugees.
>>72609812
We will never bend the knee for Putin and his obedient little puppets. Russia has done enough damage to Europe already. Know what's good for you and stay away.
Yes, keeping out Russia is more important than keeping out Islam.
>>72607947
My father used to say "Just throw away the passports" in reply to low income problems. That was back around 1990. I laughed it off as sarcasm. Now im a teacher and when i look into the backgrounds of my pupils...
70% of my pupils parents are on some kind of welfare. A single mom with 4 children gets as much welfare money as i make by actually working. I have seen the papers. I was absolutely shocked. I finished highschool, university and survived two years of teacher training. And im not better of then if i had just knocked up some low class bitch 4 times in a row and called it a day.
>>72609995
Here the pro-rapefugees can only argue for it based on tiny GDP increases as a result
>>72609973
>he thinks we spend money on greece.
Protip, we took 200 billion from the EZB at 0.5% interest and gave that to greece for at least 4% interest or so. We are actually making money with that kek. (if they pay debts which they probably will when we can exploit there huge gas reservoirs)
>>72609922
there is a difference between a budget of 300 billion and tax income of 300 billion.
An annual budget of 1.7 trillion makes much more sense than 300 billion.
>>72609558
>Merkel just tries the same thing that Lyndon Johnson did to the blacks in the 60's
Because that worked out so well.
I can't wait to see the "Arab Lives Matter" in 5-10 years time.
>>72609341
>big companies
>paying taxes
haha no
it's all gonna be paid for by the average german tax payer
>>72609968
>I still think those people make up maybe 10% or so.
It's propably even less.
>>72609995
>Is it really so bad?
It's not really teaching us not to like our nation, they just don't talk about it at all. You get general medieval times, the american revolution, a whole lot of holocaust and the whole seperated nation thing. We never learn about the greatness of Germany, we just hear how bad the end of greatness looks like.
>>72609995
Yes. But what do you expect, if you Country was driven by its Military discipline, and basically got castrated and pacified after the war.
I blame the loss of Prussia for this.
>>72610047
How does it feel to know that most people think Russia is more a part of Europe than your country?
>>72610059
Paying Kindergeld as a tax refund would be so much better, but suggesting that would be ripped to shreds by the media, calling it an Akademikerwurfprämie (and of course the inevitable Nazikeule whether the NSDAP did this or not).
>>72610047
>Yes, keeping out Russia is more important than keeping out Islam.
Yeah no. I'd trade 10 russian/ukrainian bydlo for every mudslime we have.
>>72610160
its all the same in the end.
they either get taxed to death, or their consumers do and can no longer afford their product.
>>72610105
>We are actually making money with that
this is what fucking retards actually believe. why don't you lend me all your money for 20% interest? sounds like a good deal, no?
>>72607337
bavaria is one of the only 3 states in germany that actually brings in money.
literally bavaria and 2 other states generate any revenue for the government to spend.
it be better of to save yourself bavaria you already have a young new demographic that actually has children.
the faster you decide to step out of germany and become your own independant country the better your off.
cut your ties and laugh at the rest of the third world country that is germany.
>>72607337
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8jk5v8NCNo
>>72610153
never said it was smart, but it worked the majority of black vote democrat in the us
>>72610221
You wouldn't say this if you knew their plans. A few muzzies can't even do any significant damage compared to what the Russians are scheming. I'll personally throw my life away to make sure they won't get through. And you better get used to that thought, because we don't intend to leave you a choice.
>>72610376
With all women voting socialist you actually only need a small amount of dumb enough immigrants to actually have a guaranteed majority.
>>72610257
You don´t seem to get what is actually going on, nor do you understand why we try to keep greece in the EU and not just let them go.
>>72607337
Wozu ist Bayern eigentlich nütze?
- Sie sprechen nicht unsere Sprache
- Sie haben das Volk verraten, um Königreich werden zu können
- Sie haben schlechtes Bier
- Sie haben eine Kultur die noch homoerotischer ist als ganz Köln: Mooshammer, Sedlmayr, Lahm, Ludwig Zwo - allesamt Schwutten
- Sie stehen für eine Kultur der Hochnäsigkeit und der als kulturelles Brauchtum gepflegten Abartigkeit bei gleichzeitig maximaler Unterschichtigkeit wie Oktoberfest, BMW, Adidas, Lederhosen
- Sie biedern sich maximal bei den derzeitigen Besatzern an, wie sie es auch schon bei Napoleon taten
- Sie sind genetisch keine Deutschen sondern haben keltische Beimischungen wie die Franzosen und Engländer, was auch ihre Affinität zur Unterwerfung und Anbiederung an Besatzer wiederspiegelt
- Ihre Landespolitiker sind noch korrupter und verkommener als die Bundesregierung
>>72610424
Tough talk for somebody who pays a military who's navy is used to comfortably bring boatloads of enemy invaders from coast to coast.
>>72607337
Now hold on. You want to attract immigrants because "lmao they will pay the pensions!!!!!". BUT you also want them to integrate in german society. Which means that, ideally, they will slowly make as many babbies as germans do nowadays, which means they will have to import more IMMIGRANTS.
How about convincing people to make more babbies? How simple would that be?
>25% of immigrants since the balkans war has jobs
>they are supposed to pay for social security
>it costs the same amount to validate an education to educate someone from 0
>these people are supposed to get jobs
>they are all muslim and will want to change society for the worse because their home countries aren't bad, they are just poor.
>>72610469
>Bayern
>schlechtes Bier
Nope
>>72610185
Want to rage? There is an old prussian border stone in a forest in Westfalen. It stood there for roughly 200 years. This is how it looks now. Some asshole went up there and smashed it to pieces.
>>72610561
Weißbier tastes like shit, Pilsner master race.
>>72607337
Everyone and their mom knows by now that they only import these countless immigrants to patch their doomed social security system that requires eternal growth forever.
This fucking ponzi scheme needs to fucking stop. A stagnant or negative birthrate is not a bad thing, if you have a SENSIBLE system for the elderly.
But no, this is boomers blatantly bleeding the country dry for all its worth just as they are about to kick the bed.
>>72610424
> A few muzzies can't even do any significant damage compared to what the Russians are scheming
Then enlighten me. Do they want to colonize europe and annex our countries? They have sinking birthrates themselves. How are they supposed to flood us with migrants if they can't uphold their own population?
>because we don't intend to leave you a choice.
Who is "we"?
>>72610512
We're stronger and more brave than the Russians regardless. And I intend to prove that claim.
>>72607337
Just encourage Germans to bang some more you retard.
>>72610640
Hahahaha
>>72610530
You can't though thanks to scoialism, feminism and the general gender bullshit. Women should do the same amount of work as men bla bla. Who is gonna stay at home and care for kids?Nevermind that it is fucking expensive in Germany to finance children.
>>72610424
>can't even do any significant damage compared to what the Russians are scheming.
What are we scheming? I'm kinda curious.
>>72610604
Weißbier is tourist beer.
There are plenty of dark beers, lagers and other shit.
>>72610632
>Do they want to colonize europe and annex our countries?
Yes.
>Who is "we"?
All upright Europeans who know Russia must never again be allowed to have power over European countries.
>>72607337
This doesn't explain the feminization of young male children and teens.
This doesn't explain why police are ordered to turn a blind eye to immigrant crime.
>merkel isn't a marxist! i swear!
Go to bed, Angela.
>>72610449
I can tell you what's going on. After the first, second and third "rescue package" greece is about to go bankrupt soon because they just refuse to reform their socialist system and count on the debt cut. So we will launch the fourth rescue package in a few months and so on. It's half-assed politics that will only lead to even more tax payer money getting funneled into a 100% corrupt system. You should argue with Hans-Werner Sinn if you're so smart, he would sure love to learn about Merkel's ingenious secret plan.
>>72610771
We must not yield to US and IMF interests. Selling Greece to China would be more benefical for us than doing what the Americans want.
>>72610752
But everyone in Europe sees Germany as the greatest threat not Russia
Funny, Japan has the same problem and doesn't feel it needs to let in rapefugees to solve it.
>>72607337
>We're spending too much
>Let's import shitskins that don't work and take welfare money for nothing.
EVERY FUCKING TIME
>>72610681
>implying food is expensive and 200€ per year for school books (implying you need new ones) will blow your budget
"Kids are expensive" is just a fucking meme. Raising entitled brats who get everything is expensive, yes, but those kids are human garbage anyways.
>>72610771
You still didn´t explain why we don´t just kick out greece and continue to pay. When you understand this, the "half-assed" politics doesn´t look so retarded anymore.
>>72607337
Why not only accept aged-care workers?
>>72610837
This.
>>72610837
Only the brainwashed do. Most people still see clearly.
Russia will back off or die.
>implying the migrants won't be a drain on society.
Yeah, those migrant centers, prisons, integration courses, immigrant programs and extra police forces sure are free.
You are literally retarded OP. Can't wait to skin and torch you and your delusional kind.
>>72610893
Hans we hate you and that cuck that you elected for some many years already, not Russia
>>72610752
>Yes
That's it? This is their entire master plan? Apart from how retarded that is, at this point I'd rather would want germany to be russian province than new turkey/eurabistan.
>All upright Europeans who know Russia must never again be allowed to have power over European countries.
t. Martin Schulz
So I guess you are a member of the Atlantik-Brücke e. V.
>>72610424
This is the key to germanys problem you don't want Muslims but you don't want help from anyone else.
It's funny how people advocate immigration as a solution to the aging population. Bringing in immigrants won't get rid of the feminist culture that sees children as a nuisance. It's also pointless given that many immigrants are themselves old. Hell, in Australia there are a shitload amount of old gooks that can't even speak English. How exactly do they stop the aging population?
>>72610893
No, most people see you as the greatest threat to europe, Russia annexing a small region in the black sea makes very little difference to anyone's lives, being swarmed by muslims because of a genocidal german government is quite a real threat to people
>>72610047
>Russia has done enough damage to Europe already.
Mein gott.
You started WWI and WWI. We only stoped you.
>>72610945
By the end of this, Europe will be sorry that we're gone. We know this, and that's why we'll stay relentless. We won't dance to America's tune and if Russians bare their teeth any further, we will kick them in. Sure, we are weak, but that just means we need to fight harder. I don't care for your approval. Like I said, when all this is over, you'll wish we'd won.
>>72610982
hes probably a shill nobody can be this retarded
>>72611060
>austria-hungary declares war on serbia
>russia declares war on austria-hungary
>germany upholds their treaty and declares war on russia
>germany started WW1.
ok
>>72610652
Protip: bang the vagina NOT the arsehole you'll get better results i.e pregnancy
>>72611085
>we'll relentlessly keep guzzling mudslime semen
>THAT'LL SHOW RUSSIA AND THE US!
>>72607337
>healthcare
you'll spend twice that amount with welfare and criminality good job
>>72611154
kekd
>>72610580
wtf?? whats the name of it?
>>72610837
this
>>72611154
Europe is supposed to control Russia and the US; not the other way around. This is the eternal truth, and even if it's absolutely impossible to achieve, we'll never stop advocating it.
>>72611085
>We won't dance to America's tune
lol. That's why Merkel is so friendly with Obama and eager to sign the TTIP right?
Your government is controlled by Washington, deal with it
>>72607337
>"Despite our best efforts to attract immigratian from European countries.."
Lügen, Hans..
> http://www.thelocal.de/20160428/germany-to-block-eu-citizens-from-welfare-for-5-years
That is 'best efforts'? EU Burger meets German qt, ok, go live with her in Sunny Germania and make new babby Hansi Taxpayers for the State. Except, if anything goes wrong, at all, even temporarily - they are so fucked and far from home?
Syrians, they get fucking welfare but. Lying Hans.
>>72607337
when do you expect voters would start supporting killing off pension ponzi scheme and coming reform after reform?
do voters really favor their own ethnicity being replaced so they can squeeze as much as they can out of the fucked generations?
my personal strategy is to pay as little as I can into the system, sadly limited by min wage
>>72611150
Fuck you.
Austia only proclaimed war vs Russia on August 6 1914
And you did on August 1
>>72611246
You control USA by pandering to RUSSIA not ISLAM!! >>72607337
>>72611246
I know you are just baiting in this thread but
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/bundeswehr-beteiligt-sich-an-abschreckung-gegen-russland-a-1089868.html
Hasnt Germany learned from its history?
>>72611150
>germany upholds their treaty and declares war on russia
Again with this meme...
Austria declared war, Austria started the war. The treaty was only in case of being attacked.
You joined Austria because you wanted to, not because you signed that fucking piece of paper.
>>72607337
>we still end up spending 40% of our budget more or less on pensions and healthcare for the elderly.
Now what? You spend 40% of your budget on the elderly an additional 30% of refugee welfare, and an extra 10% on increased police activity to keep rapefugees in check?
>>72611246
Europoors aren't controlling shit anymore. You people threw that idea out the window during your two great chimpouts, and now, you're irreconcilably eliminating your sovereignty and importing millions of people that will drag your nation down even further.
I'd rather the Russians controlled you, at least your people wouldn't be such faggy doormats.
>>72611277
If we gave in to America's demands, Greece would be the US navy's personal aircraft carrier parking lot by now. We successfully prevented that, and if it weren't for European treachery, Crimea would be ours as well.
>>72611464
> it weren't for European treachery, Crimea would be ours as well.
Please explain how you would have managed to do that
>>72611060
A-H started it, not Germany. And if Russia had stayed out of it, it would've just been a regional war between A-H and Serbia, and you wouldn't have gotten bolshevik'd.
>>72611434
Your country is a big fat fucking failure - you do not have the moral authority to be a superpower. The longer you keep this up, the more painful your collapse will be.
>>72611464
>Greece would be the US navy's personal aircraft carrier parking lot by now.
Why isn't it? It's not like you queers have the ability to protect yourselves.
>>72611464
>Ours
If you think Russians aren't european but crimea somehow is you're fucking retarded
>>72611464
btw; even greece has a stronger millitary than germany now
you wouldn't have done shit
>>72611464
This! >>72611363
stale mate.
>>72611531
>>72611532
>>72611533
>>72611540
You are, all of you, traitors.
>>72609353
>germany is a prosperous country
>let's try everything in our power to turn it into germanistan
>>72611580
Oh yeah we're the traitors make sense
Yeah, what is thousands of women, girls, boys and gammys raped and beaten compared to cheaper labor price?
>>72611580
Under the circumstances Germany is in DEEEP shit. remove the kebabs situation and Aus would deal with GERMANY over RUSSIA ANYDAY OF THE WEEK. Its just that now Russia is doing what we all want destroy kebabs (Islam)
>>72611518
Your country is a retarded failure. Literally all you had to do was wait for our inevitable collapse and then reap the benefits of being a stable, homogenous nation in the new world order. Instead, you wanted to play empire, got blown the fuck out (for the third time in a century), and now, you're self destructing and blaming it on everyone but yourselves. Get a fucking grip, Germany.
>>72607337
>we still end up spending 40% of our budget more or less on pensions and healthcare for the elderly
And you will spend even more on workless muslim invaders with no education or worthwhile skills.
As they age they will require MORE money for health care at the same time as destroying German national identity and hence the German nation
The fucking nation you are elected to represent
Bastard, if I could get my hands on the likes of you, you'd be fucking praying for ISIS to cut you stinking traitorous head off
And yes I am triggered
>>72611580
What do you mean by that? Who are they betraying, and how?
>>72610047
German and Russian alliance is now the only hope for Europe. There are rumours it is happening behind the scenes. Perhaps a more longer lasting and fortuitous one than the Hitler/Stalin pact.
>>72607337
why didnt we invite the boers?
>>72611666
Don't try to understand first world problems.
>>72607337
>Bayern
>CDU
Oh komm schon, versuch es wenigstens.
>>72611808
DATS RAYCISS
>>72611757
All Europeans who do not oppose the lordship of Americans and Russians over this continent are betraying their ancestors and future generations. If we want our nations to exist any further, we need to unite and become strong enough for our independence.
>>72611686
The whole of Europe would be better off without ISLAM smash these cunts and we go back to trade, imports& tourism So consider dealing with he RUSSIANS to remove KEBABS after that the world would prefer to deal with Europe than RUSSIA. Although if things go well RUSSIA will get some points for doing good job and share in the trade etc if they go too stupid then their back to the arch enemy of the world.Just an opinion.
>>72611882
>Implying your grandchildren aren't going to be arabs
>>72611882
Your future is in danger regardless either ISLAMISATION ot AMERO RUSKI"S your choice there is no obvious other way.
>>72610640
Toppest of keks. My sides.
>>72611798
You have absolutely no idea how fucked up Russians are. Nowhere on this good Earth you'll find a people more deceitful, fraudulent, corrupt and degenerate. Muslims would have to be ten times as bad as they are now to be worse for civil society than Russians are.
Go there, spend a week in St. Petersburg, tell me I'm wrong, I dare you motherfucker.
>>72610752
You are the wirst kind of deluded cancer in this world. You and all the EU/NATO/USA bootlickers.
>>72607337
>implying 'refugees' are helping solve the problem of government dependencies, not making it worse
>>72611815
I live in a country with 40% of muslims, and yet my future looks way more brighter than your's in Germanistan. Why? Because I'm a Slav and we know how to deal with goatshaggers when shit hits the fan. All you Krauts know is how to spread your wide-open gaping butthole some more.
I'm more happy in Herzegovina than you'll ever be in Germanistan.
>>72612117
>t. Otto Mustafa
>>72607337
Here's an insanely easy way to increase your nation's population:
1. Portray mothers as heroines.
2. Give new married couples interest-free loans to allow them to establish families.
3. Reduce the principle of said loan by a smaller amount for each time that married couple has a child.
For more information, consult the successes of former German admin., esp. the one in power in the 1930s.
>>72608462
Congratulations your society is getting reformed anyway
>>72612144
I hate Americans and non-German Europeans more than anyone else on this board, but they're one hell of a lot more reasonable than fucking Russians.
>>72608166
But the evil nazis did that.
>You're not a Nazi, are you Hans?
>>72612291
I bet your wife slept with the Rus'
>>72607337
every fucking expert says we are gonna pay for the "refugees" for at least 20 years, after that feel free to look at how other immigrant groups who have been here for longer are doing to take an educated guess.
there is NOTHING pragmatic about this uncontrolled immigration, its ruining the state AND society.
>>72612117
It's probably time you got over your grievances, they're not that bad.
>>72607337
Vote-buying cunts, kill yourself.
>>72612291
Cuckest of all cucks. You've lost all your wars, and you'll lose the next one too, siding with muslims won't help you.
>>72607337
In what party are you? CSU?
>>72612340
How many of you pro-Russian faggots have actually been there, how many of you have any idea about how that country is run, I wonder.
The answer must be 0, because nobody in their right mind would want the ugly madness of Russia, with all its drug addiction and mafia trade, to spill over to anywhere else.
>>72611580
>>72611246
>>72610893
Your conviction for your country makes me proud too. But we are at the conclusion of a global socialist experiment that was meant to usher in the Socialist utopia, But its failing Europe is the focal point, Kebabs are striking while the irons hot.thats the first task get them out, defund the UN, second task forget EU ambitions as they stand. each country must govern and rule themselves not from a central EU parliament,joint trade and economics separate. Just an opinion.
>>72612519
I'm russian-speaking and a large number of my friends are ethnic Russian, I'm going to wager I have more experience of Russians than you Mustafa
>>72612519
You have no idea how your country is run
>>72607337
>>72612474
bosnia? what are you? your a mix of turkey and serbia so your pretty much irrelevant here
>>72612659
are you posting form moldova?
>>72612525
>each country must govern and rule themselves not from a central EU parliament,joint trade and economics separate
That would be a marvelous plan, but unfortunately the economies of France, Spain, Italy and a few others are actually defunct and wouldn't go any further without Germoney. We hate dependencies of this kind the most, but everyone can see what happens every time a German official tells other European administrations to cut their spending already.
>>72612752
Ahahahah
>germany actually thinks they're the benefactors of UE
I'm starting to think that this is just a huge bait thread.
>>72612571
Have you actually been to Russia? Because I have, many times, and every time was a waking nightmare. Ask yourself why your ethnic Russian friends are not living in Russia anymore.
>>72609740
Capitalism. Growth / Profit above all
>>72612679
yes why
>>72612659
Actually, I'm blonde, with green eyes, I'm tall, I'm Croatian. I come from the parts of Herzegovina that never converted to 7th century death cult. You're all afraid of ISIL nowadays, but we had ISIL here back in the 90s.
>>72612519
Fuck off Abdul
Did you find the Rus not as pussy as the Germans you like to intimidate?
>>72612820
i'm sometimes on business trips there, its pretty amazing, rich as fuck. Especially St. Pete, amazing. Rich. People with nice cars and the infrastructure is better than Berlin.
All the time when I'm in your country though, i'm ashamaed how it smells everywhere full of hartzer infront of discounter shops
>>72612829
what does it mean your blond and green eyes? you think your aryan? im sorry but not even germans or nordic people are aryan.people from old persia fitting the arayan profile
also stop lieing bosnia had several ISIS bootcamps
>>72612855
>Abdul
Do you actually believe everyone who doesn't conform with your stupid bullshit is a shitskin?
>>72612820
Petersburg is 1000 times the city berlin is, I've a lot of experience of both, moving to peter quite soon
>>72613021
yeah this
>>72612855
The Rus thinks about himself first and himself last. Those that did not do so were exterminated over time by one of the many opressive regimes. There can be no liberty with the Rus.
>>72612825
your flag shows unknown
>>72612940
St Petersburg is 5% flashy cars and resource money and 95% a poor hellhole.
Lovely metro stations though but that's not a representation of how Russia is today.
>>72612965
We fought the ISIL scum back in the mid-90 here in Bosnia and Herzegovina during the war. They were attacking our villages and beheading civilians. Europe doesn't know what will hit her in the future.
>>72612752
Yes work thru that AFTER the first task.
(actually its just and outsiders observation)
I don't have a preference as long as each country is able to write their own laws and govern as their people see fit thats my main point.
>>72612940
>>72613021
>lying on the internet
I wouldn't expect any better from a bunch of Ivan-enablers.
>>72607337
If that truly is the reason then it's far worse.
Your not some loonies having retarded ideal.
Your just massive pragmatic idiots, having jackshit knowledge of demographics, zero fortought and maimum greed.
You just don't want to ruin your pretty economic statistics and your own wallet by just paying for the overbundance of eldarly for the few decandes it exists before they die and we have equillibrium again.
Mass migration will reduce (actual)german birthrates even further, since their living space and living quality is being contested and they will have less money for their own kids due to feeding the foreighn ones with taxes.
Not to mention that you invite arabs and turks who are majority mudslimes. If you tink they'll vote for you in the long term then "your" party is even dumber. You invite civil unrest at the least and mudslime takeover at the worst and history proves it time and again like in lebanon, and india/pakistan.
Also:
>bayern
>CDU
>not CSU
Nice try
>>72613179
Like i need to lie on the internet
>>72607337
>Despite our best efforts to attract immigration [sic] from European countries, we still end up spending 40% of our budget more or less on pensions and healthcare for the elderly.
OP is probably troll, but this is very likely a form of reasoning politicians have in general.
>Taking care of the elderly is a bad thing.
>Immigrants don't grow old.
>>72610469
Bayern gleicht die Schulden anderer Bundesländer aus.
>>72607337
So? Merkel's just as bad for doing this. She's ruining the German nation, culture and people, just for financial reasons.
This is why the right is as bad as the left. Both love immigration for different reasons.
>>72613179
Said the Mohammed-enabler.
>>72612972
YEP either your a Muslim or a Leftwing mussie sympathiser. siding With Muslimes for ANY reason is a way to alienate your self.Your not dealing with the liberals or lefties here.
>>72613260
We both know the Irish have their difficulties with the concept of honour, don't we?
>>72613304
Oh, I agree. It's just that I think siding with Ruslimes is even more pathetic.
>>72607337
Would you rather be hung or shot?
maybe instead of brainwashing entire generations of women into not having kids and having them work dead end jobs you faggot should have focused on promoting the family unit which would have given you more jobs and workers in the long run
But no lets work whites like workers ants and let illiterate parasites who will never pay into the system breed like crazy and give them benefits
>>72613354
What does that even mean
>>72613446
>he doesn't even know what honour means
>>72612972
Yes
You are either with the White race or against it.
Clearly you are against it, therefore you are a muslim shitskin or might as well be.
>>72613606
The only white people I owe allegiance to are the Germans.
