http://www.benzinga.com/analyst-ratings/analyst-color/16/04/7885499/why-apple-could-layoff-between-25-000-and-30-000-of-115-
they're getting ready to make their products here.
>>72571888
What exactly happened to apple to make them go full JUST
>>72572358
wrong flag?
>>72572459
Despite the asshole and pos that Jobs was, it's undeniable that he know how to fucking run the company.
Since his death, product after product has been a rehash of an older product or a slightly improved version of the same product.
They can't keep doing it anymore. They've lost their creativity and they are facing their inevitable crawl into obscurity.
Got to say, I'm not all bummed by that.
>>72572358
first comment best comment
>>72571888
>bazinga analysis says apple macintosh is going to lay off thousands of Us Nerds Huh™ for the superior training of indian and chinese people of color
What the fuck am I reading?
>>72572513
no, apple makes a lot of itos shit overseas
>>72572459
>>72572655
I'm hearing it's mainly China. Sales fell dramatically, though Apple says it's because they were so high in the first place.
Chinese companies have also developed better and cheaper phones.
>>72572655
Im not bummed either. I was always rooting for Microsoft, and I'm glad to see that they have finally pulled their shit together just as apple begins to collapse
The main reason for this isn't falling sales btw. It's just that they projected sales increase when there wasn't one. They thought the Apple watch would sell more, but it failed miserably.
>>72572883
Asian countries also buy Asian. They have a strong sense of nationalism and state, especially in China. Buying American when there's a Chinese option is undoubtedly frowned upon
>>72572931
too bad microsoft is pretty much nsa tier with windows 10
>>72572931
>rooting for Microsoft
why do you hate freedom ?
>>72573004
More like the market is saturated.
Lot of poor Chinese people scrunched up all the money they could to get that shiny Apply logo on their phones, and they are in hurry to upgrade.
>>72572834
It's crazy how Chinese make phones for $1.85/hour and they're still $600
Though other phones are still pretty expensive as well.
>>72572931
i own the base model of the SurfaceBook and dear basedgod it's everything i'd hoped for.
and convenient as hell.
>>72571888
>believing bullshit written by retards
>>72572931
>not knowing anything about computers or the technology industry
>>72572931
Hahahahaha, fool anon, I may despise Apple, but my disdain for Microsoft surpasses that of Apples 100fold.
Have you not at all been keeping up with Microsoft's bullshit with Windows 10?
If you're not really invested or involved in the actual professional industry, I don't blame you actually. The bullshit and hoops they make us perform in Windows 10 for things that used to work in previous versions of Windows is maddening and infuriating.
Word around the rumor mill is that Windows 10 is the last version of Windows and it will just be updated periodically with update overhauls. It's the absolute worst steaming pile of shit Microsoft has ever pushed out to date.
See pic related and then tell me how Microsoft has "pulled their shit together:
I just bought a $2000 iMac from them though.
>>72573055
>>72573100
I mean really from a standpoint of who is making the best tech, because it is between microsoft and apple and both of them have shit privacy policies. Lesser of two evils, how happens to be making the most innovative and gorgeous shiet
>>72573141
When you consider how advanced our phones are, it's not that unbelievable. The amount of things a smart phone can do is incredible
>>72572358
Are all these employees Asian? Please. Imagine 30,000 new jobs for 30,000 legal Americans, in a single move, one company.
>>72571888
Here's a great site for job losses
http://dailyjobcuts.com/
Weird that they don't mention Sports Authority
>>72573327
Yet most people just use them as cameras and for social media
>>72573266
Why? Are you some kind of retard?
>>72572931
> Rooting for Microsoft
They spy on you, they charge 100-200$ for a license just to put fucking ads on it, everything is closed source with the most restrictive licenses imaginable, etc. You are being chucked by the ULTIMATE Jew.
Apple v. Microsoft
>ITT autist argue about shit that doesn't matter
It's splitting hairs at this point and has been for a few years
http://fortune.com/2016/03/12/googles-go-computer-vs-human/
https://deepmind.com/
Go, Jeopardy. Just the tip of the iceberg.
Just wait until quantum computing memory storage makes available all combined human knowledge into a single memory storage site and then the retrieval and processing, cross referencing and analysis of that information is available to a single A.I.
Software employment is the very least of our worries.
We have no contingency plan for creating technology that makes human meat bags obsolete.
We have a contingency plan to invade Canada, but not a plan to handle the human race becoming an intellectual ant in comparison to A.I. self aware sentient life.
We literally cannot convince 1 billion humans to shit into a container instead of shitting in the streets, how would an intelligent life that has a 500 I.Q. or a 1000 I.Q. look at us.
Humor would be irrelevant, only humility and pity.
The hope the A.I. would reach a hand down to pull us out of our dark ages instead of crushing us underneath a boot.
>>72573327
Which makes people lazy.
No jobs + lazy people = bad
>>72573141
They make the actual phone that much. But you forgot to add in hundreds of programmers, designers, material costs, computer parts, and other such costs. And that's just the production of the phone. You also forgot lawyers, marketing, and basic costs
That's not to say the Apple isn't overpriced shit. But people have an idea that Apple is the highest quality products out there, and because of that idea, Apple can inflate their price.
>>72573555
Because I get pic related.
>>72572358
>http://www.benzinga.com/analyst-ratings/analyst-color/16/04/7885499/why-apple-could-layoff-between-25-000-and-30-000-of-115-
they are getting ready to ditch the US
Apple more like Rato
>>72573573
>most restrictive licenses imaginable
Hahaha, I take it you've never dealt with Matlab licenses.
>>72573438
>Say goodbye to Sports Authority. The sporting goods retailer will liquidate all stores and wind down operations in the coming months. It’s the final chapter in its quest to reorganize under Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.
>Sports Authority notified the U.S. Bankruptcy Court that the company would be able to reorganize and would pursue a sale instead.
>That means all 450 stores will close.
>Sports Authority filed for Chapter 11 in March, saying at the time it would close 140 stores and two distribution centers.
>But the retailer is saddled with more than $1.1 billion in debt and won’t be able to reorganize.
http://archive.is/r4NK4
This is after Sports Chalet is closing 30+ stores
>>72573259
not to mention forced upgrades even if you're using an enterprise edition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMPeTrHNX1U
>>72573692
Surely iTunes sales makes them a lot more money. Most of it is overpriced too, I can get songs from Amazon for $0.10-0.20 less.
>But people have an idea that Apple is the highest quality products out there
All made in China, ha
>>72571888
>give all the powers to the workers
>the "owners" have no power
>we dont need 1 person to own anything
>the WORKERS run the company
>the BIG BOSS is EVIL
>the workers are responsible for innovation
>the workers do all the work
Why should 1 guy earn more than the rest when he does literally nothing and everything he did had zero effect on anything lolz i mean cmon get with the times its 2016 communism is the real deal!
>>72573795
Well actually I think that's "forced" in the sense that the upgrade is marked for yes by default while you have the "choice" to disable it, whereas for all other versions you have no choice at all whether you want to disable it or not.
>>72572655
>Since his death, product after product has been a rehash of an older product or a slightly improved version of the same product.
iSheep detected. That was exactly the business model he ran Apple on. And all of it was grossly overpriced because of hipster brandwhores and stupid boomers.
>would you like to upgrade your storage an additional 10gb for just $99.99 :^)
>>72573969
>Sneakers
>No belt
>>72573795
That weather girl is qt.
>>72573741
Apple will be back when Trump threatens them with a 35% tariff on all imports.
>>72573748
Mathematica, so similar. I despise closed source trash in general. As far as all that goes Apple hands down has the most restrictive licensing, it's so bad that webms can't run on safari just because Apple has their own proprietary shit they're trying to push.
>>72572834
>apple makes
apple doesn't make shit
>>72573259
lmao, that's fucking tragic.
>>72574204
lol. I almost never use a Mac unless I'm dropping into a single user mode shell, so I'll take your word on it.
>>72573259
>It's the absolute worst steaming pile of shit Microsoft has ever pushed out to date
you don't say
>>72574165
>that pic
To be fair, Republicans fight those topics, but only after Liberals bring them up.
>>72574392
Is that his family?
>>72573100
why do you hate pc ?
>>72574392
Ahhahahahahaha, I should have known. I should have known when a poo-in-the-loo took over microsoft.
Seriously, They just can't help themselves, can they?
>>72572978
I don't see the appeal of the apple watch at all and nobody I know understands what the point of it is.
>>72573184
>insults people for being dumb
>does not ad anything constructive whatsoever which makes readers believe he also has no idea
>>72574555
Assuming you have Windows 10:
1) pay 150$ for OS license
2) open Minesweeper
3) see a fucking ad--they're fucking making money off of you after you paid them for a license, you're being cucked so goddamn hard
>>72572358
More like their projections are garbage because they've stagnated
Trump literally can't "fix" the "problem" of companies leaving, by force, short of amending the constitution. The reason isn't complicated either
The only plausible solution that will likely be coupled with, and misattributed to tariffs, is lowering corporate taxation, removing regulations, and removing the minimum wage
>>72574967
i have win 7
win 10 is a pile of smoking turd
i like the pc because its more flexible.
although working is better on a mac ( music , video etc)
>>72571888
Apple isn't as good since Jobs died, but it will always be better than microshit. Microshit went full nsa with windows 10, and literally puts adware in the operating system.
Linux might actually have a chance to compete here.
>>72573055
Microsoft employee here. We only use that information to help us improve the product. For example, its how we improve cortana and her speech recognition. Everything is anonymized. The difference between us and Google/Apple is were up front about data collection. You can opt out easily. We don't mind.
>>72574967
>1) pay 150$ for OS license
Is that included when you buy a pre-made computer?
I bought a laptop for $300 or so with Windows 8 and they're pushing 10 on me.
>>72575210
I switched to Ubuntu when I bought a laptop running Win 8. I haven't looked back. I'm computarded but it mostly "just works" and anything that doesn't I can easily google and work through in the command line.
>>72571888
>benzinga
>>72573149
i have a chuwi vi8 plus, fucking love this thing. slap a tablet keyboard on it and its a nice ass device.
>>72575311
10 is free. And the "ads" are in the app store. No ads in the OS itself. Don't buy into the shilling
>>72575352
I use fedora.
If your hardware is right, try installing hackintosh yosemite from niresh. I put it on my 7 year old toshiba, and it works great. Same specs as a macbook pro and cost me nothing.
>>72575160
Win 7 might be the last good closed source OS that's not locked down like Apple. God help us once it's discontinued.
>>72572655
>product after product has been a rehash of an older product or a slightly improved version of the same product
The last 10 years of Apple has been variations on one idea.
Touchscreen phone
Touchscreen mp3 player
Tiny touchscreen mp3 player
Big touchscreen mp3 player (ipad)
Slightly smaller version of the big mp3 player
Tiny mp3 player with a wrist strap on it.
Apart from this they've been plodding along with laptops and all-in-one desktops.
>>72571888
I thought Apple was doing well? Didn't they just report that they just sold the highest amount of smartphones yet, as well as the success of their other products?
>>72575554
I'll look into that, thanks anon.
It's an Asus K550A I think, 8GB RAM and a SSD. Pretty quick now but was slow as fuck with a 5400rpm drive and Win8
>>72571888
>Chowdhry says the tech world is becoming far more efficient and less employees will be needed to do the same amount of work.
What are the implications of this?
>>72571888
Not surprised. I went to the Apple """"Store"""" yesterday and saw a sea of useless employees. I asked the genius bar guy how many employees that had on staff and he said around 130. You could literally show up with one of those apple shirts and pretend to work there no problem.
it really makes no sense why people hate apple, besides being poorfags
this country has been nothing but a contradiction to itself after we started shipping all our jobs to overseas slaves
apple doesn't give anymore of a fuck about harvesting your data than any other platform/website/etc, they've told the feds to fuck off a million times
Microsoft is literally supported by the government because they make it so easy for them to get at your personal info
>>72575311
It's disgusting how hard they press windows 10 on you if you are on win 7, 8, etc.
>>72573004
False, they like foreign brands
>>72575787
>Asus K550A
It will run on that. It just needs an intel based processor, which that has.
>>72572655
>Since his death, product after product has been a rehash of an older product or a slightly improved version of the same product.
>implying they werent doing the same thing before Jobs died-
>>72576084
My point is at least they were "creative" about it. Now it's so blatant it's obvious.
>>72576084
before jobs died at least they had the ipad, iphone, and everything else.
>>72575382
Kek
>>72575530
Thanks. I don't even use the store.
>>72576049
It's horrible. At least once a day, usually when I'm in the middle of something. I already have 30+ tabs open, the pop up just slows everything.
>>72576071
link
http://www.macbreaker.com/2014/11/how-to-install-os-x-yosemite-on-your-pc-with-yosemite-zone.html
>>72573004
Chinese people have a MASSIVE boner for Apple, which caused their iPhone sales to skyrocket for the past few years. Now it's slowing down because it's finally hit a ceiling.
>>72571888
Because fuck chinks?
>>72576134
Yeah you are right iPhone, iPhone 2, iPhone 3g, iPhone 4, iPad, IPad 2, iPad mini are the epitome of creativity and good product design right?
>>72572655
Steve jobs was actually a business starter.
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What you have to understand is this is typical ivy league CEO behavior we are dealing with now. Most of those harved MBAs can't really do anything meaningful for a company.
What they do is 'reorganize', sometimes it's by cutting employees, looks great on the books for the first year, margins are up boys!
sometimes it's by growing with "mergers", looks great for the first year on the books, assets are up boys!
it's all stock market bullshit and trying to justify themselves.
>>72575530
No ads you say?
(This is a fresh install I did earlier today)
>>72573149
the surface is too heavy for a reader thou
>>72576629
Yeah the refreshed models are not that innovative, but the originals came about under Jobs. What do we have under cook? The apple watch? lol.
>>72576629
Why do you suppose I put creative in quotes?
Because it was able to market and sell under Jobs. With Jobs gone, neither of those are happening now and are on a steady but rapid decline.
>>72576726
>he didn't install a classic start menu
>>72575530
Open your minesweeper right now.
Also it's not free, the upgrade is free. Somewhere along the line you paid for Windows whether it was a Win 8 license or paid by whoever built the device and passed on to you. Look up windows 10 on Amazon, it's about $100.
There's no excuse for making money off of ads for software people paid a premium for. Unless you're fine being cucked that hard.
>>72576726
You can hide everything on the right I think. I used win10 for about 15 mintues before I went back to seven
>>72576653
Yuppies are evil scum. They will be the death of this country if they are not annihilated.
>>72573004
Kek are you joking? The top status symbol cars in China are Jaguars, Land Rovers, and BMWs.
Most Chinese people won't even touch most things if they know it's made in China
>>72576726
literally right click->unpin
>>72577198
Yeah but the point is by default you have fucking advertisements built in. It's absolutely fucking ridiculous. Advertisements on any paid thing is insane, let alone an operating system, let alone Microsoft Windows.
>>72573259
I always read that then remember what a crap shoot linex is for the end user
>>72577333
Doesn't actually get rid of it though. To actually purge it from your system you have to use the powershell cmdlet get-appxpackage wit the right arguments.
Nothing funnier than you niggers who will spend literally months playing games, but not a day configuring your PC and doing basic OPSec downloads.
Doesn't apple need all those employees because they're putting out their electric car?
>>72571888
>>72573741
BENZINGA
>>72577333
They've just gotten started cucking you Windows 10 fags. At first it will just be little things like that. Easily hidden little annoyances. Then one day it you won't be able to hide it. Then one day it will get bigger. Then one day there will be a massive Doritos(TM) banner ad on your lock screen every time you log in to your computer. And you can't do a fucking thing about it because there will be forced automatic updates. And even if you find a way around it millions of other people won't and Microsoft will be raking in billions on top of the billions they already make from licensing.
>>72572655
Honestly /g/ memes aside Jobs was great for the tech world. The GUI would have languished for years at Xerox and he accelerated its adoption by at least a decade. The work he did at NEXT was great. He saw opportunities everywhere like in Pixar and snapped them up providing them with the money and obsessive impulse towards perfection that they needed to succeed.
Jobs was an excellent businessman and Apple is much less of a company without him. The unfortunate thing is that I don't see any other companies ready to step up and push the markets forward in the future.
>>72572655
>>72572931
Apple, Google, Microsoft, all these tech companies will soon suffer from the same malaise - hardware advancement will slow to a crawl within 5-10 years as the limits of Moore's law become felt.
Circuits cannot keep shrinking beneath 10nm indefinitely, bar a breakthrough out of nowhere, or a paradigm shift from integrated circuits to a new form of computing (like the switch from vacuum tubes to circuits in the first place). Eventually, hardware will be fairly static.
There will be no optimization left to squeeze. No new software left to be developed for desktops or phones - all needs and niches will be covered.
There used to be a points to upgrading your CPU every 2 years, now there isn't (even for gaming).
Where will all those computer engineers (hardware) go?
Where will all those computer programmers (software) go?
Without a miracle, there is going to be a massive employment dark age in the tech industry within a decade. Fuck what you heard about robotics, artificial intelligence, automation, all that shit. If the hardware gets stuck, there's a few years of optimization left at max (requiring very smart dudes, not your typical college grad), and then R&D gets laid off, simple as that.
>>72573004
This is bullshit, iOS has a huge market share in both Japan and China, iPhones are pretty much a prestige product in China, I go to a university with a lot of rich mainlander kids and they ALL have iPhones.
Carl Icahn sold his shares in Apple
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-29/carl-icahn-warns-of-apple-'day-of-reckoning'/7370830
Economic happening is still on its way lads. Get ready
>>72578386
I agree with all you said for all the companies save for Google (actually Alphabet).
Alphabet is doing just dandy and is invested (pretty successfully) in many different markets as opposed to Microsoft and Faceberg which are attempting the same thing and flailing wildly.
Honestly, of all the Major tech companies, I think Google (Alphabet) is faring the best right now. Oracle too maybe (minus their shitshow circus known as Java)
>>72573374
those jobs are not coming back to the US, deal with it.
trump will just put poor whites and blacks back to work on the farms
>>72574392
why are indians obsessed with microshit?
>>72578824
Even before that Apple fell 5-7%
>>72580840
Biggest hires of H1Bs I'd guess
>>72574564
Indians love Microsoft for some reason. Now that the CEO is one of their own, it's probably turned into cult-ish levels of dedication.
>>72580840
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-pxI8PlY0o
To them, he's their ticket to success
>>72576726
but anon don't you wanna play vidya and pretend to be an explorer on a quest?
>>72578386
>>72578939
I don't know about hardware, but for software you're clueless. There really are so many new applications that need to be written.
You're just dense and cannot envision them until you see them.
how will apple survive with the death of trailblazing CEO tim cook?
>>72578386
Also think about it, just because there is a size limit on transistors doesn't mean hardware is done.
There are new paradigms, such as hardware virtualization that can also be improved. You're just not thinking outside the box.
>>72582132
Of course there are many new applications to be written. But guess what? Companies like Microshaft and Faceberg are not centered around that model.
The shit they make is inane and pointless drivel only to bring forward more profit at the end of the day. They don't care about making the world better. They just use their consumers as a front end of parasitic profiteering. They make money without actually bringing forth something truly useful for society.
So really, no my point isn't invalidated.
>>72582404
>>72582132
STEMcuck getting nervous.
Eat shit, fuccboi.
>>72571888
>graduating as STEMcuck next year
>apple about to blow up
>implying there will be any jobs when i finish cuckiversity
>implying im not considering just going to my nearest mcdonalds for a job right now
>>72582977
You're Mexican. Just join your local cartel
>>72573592
Humor's just a method of dealing with and reacting to the unexpected.
>>72583147
i dont want to be killed m8 i wanted a peaceful life
>>72583222
Become a turnip farmer. Can't get more peaceful than that.
>>72583722
wages are too low m8
as STEMcuck ina generic code monkey i was expecting 700-1200 dlls a week
as a mcdonaldscuckits like 400-600
as a turnip farmer you get 400 or even less and a shot in the back of the head when your back is too fucked
>>72584086
400-600 dollars a week at as a mccuck? nigga is this in pesos?
>>72575858
they hire people to act as customers to pretend to buy stuff so others will buy it too
