Is the sexual liberation we're witnessing today the cause of the fall of modern society?
>>72532808
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxpVwBzFAkw
yes this is redpill 102
right after redpill 101 all women are whores.
stay on curriculum you'll be alright.
>>72532808
Its a symptom.
Lack of external threats, wellfare states allowing women to be more promiscuous, less interests in family and nature, more interests in status and hedonism, ubranization of society, anonimity in big cities allowing for no shaming or social ostracism, wealth disparity and even free education.
Voila, you got yourself a shit sandwich.
Rich old men and slutty women are the downfall of society.
>>72533185
And I forgot a big one.
>media and entertainment propaganda
>social media and technology allowing for propagation of a diseased sexual "culture"
>>72532808
No. Sexual liberation is a symptom of egalitarianism which is a symptom of pride. Pride is the root of all this mess.
>ye shall be as gods
>>72533185
>>72533333
Nice get
but yes this anon
its like a web of features that cause and perpetuate each other in a death spiral until collapse.
it appears to happen to all advanced civilizations after a certain point.
>>72532808
MUH DICK
>>72532808
Literal autism the post
Attractive girls taking selfies is not the reason Western society is falling
What we lack is artificial wombs
birthrates will go up in no time
>>72533185
>>72533333
can I please move to your country, I'm a huge fan of Venusian conquest and heredity and my children will almost certainly vote correctly.
>>72532808
Yes.
People mock each other like "jews are not the reason you're not getting laid".
True, autism, shyness, social mishappens are the reason I can't get laid.
But they're the reason I can't find a suitable wife for the rest of my life.
Watch out as they try to twist this addendum.
>>72533557
>he thinks the OP is talking about selfies
you are not a perceptive anon are you?
>>72533607
DO YOU HAVE THE MASKETTA MAN MR RARE FLAG?
It's one of the causes but also the welfare state. Sexual liberation and the welfare state are both dysgenic. It allows the lowest IQ people to reproduce the most. Add third worlders to the mix and its a dysgenic death spiral.
![huacos1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/hHWe1pq.jpg "huacos1[1].jpg")
>>72532808
It has happened several times before. Just before the dissapearence of that culture.
Interesting times are ahead of us /pol/
>>72533607
THAT WHICH IS RARE DOTH ETERNAL LIFE
LIE
>>72533607
R A R E
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>>72533695
Sure, but you wont get around having to speak German and even have a B.Sc. to be eligible for citizenship. If you have Irish grandparents or something like that, first try getting Euro citizenship, then youre in anywhere you want, otherwise its difficult without at least a bachelors, or Masters.
>>72533607
>What we lack
all that's stopping them is muh feels
>mfw in the future females will literally be obsolete
>>72533832
R O A C H
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>>72533832
>>72533749
>>72533732
>>72533607
>>72533508
>>72533333
Ya gotta say, all of these anons from all over the world and they all see the same issues in women.
interesting indeed.
>>72532808
No. It's birth-control. Everything we're seeing can be traced back to, and is a consequence of, the invention of the pill.
>>72532808
I don't like her face but damn she has a nice build. Athletic and curvy at the same time.
>>72533749
These interesting times need to come faster.
>>72533607
Robowaifus are the future Rare m8
>>72532808
Women want to display their beauty to attract the best mate
It's just nature
Modern technology makes it more apparent
You can have as much religion & legal restrictions as you want, women will always strive to be this way
Now here come the 'social marxism' altright clowns
>>72532808
No, if anything, it is a result of the fall of modern society. There was degeneracy during Caligula's time that you can't even imagine, and the Empire went on trucking for a few centuries after he was gone.
>>72532808
I know humans aren't mice and behavior is notoriously difficult to study scientifically, but look up the "mouse paradise" experiment. female sexual liberation (well, the mouse equivalent) was one of the contributing factors to the downfall.
It is a feature. Nonreproductive women, paternal disenfranchisement, every generation has gotten prgressively worse the further monogamy is deviated from.
>>72533861
Ich bin ein wissenschaftenjunggeselle!!
ya?
>>72534097
>What is lesbianism?
What sexual liberation?
Our parents had way more sex with way more people than we ever did.
Shut the fuck up.
>>72534126
No Caligula was a degenerate flash in the pan that was murdered for it
there is degenerate behavior at all times and in all places, the difference is how widespread and how society reacts.
>>72534003
MUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHH DIIIIIIIIICKKKKKKKK
>>72532808
>sexual liberation
>deviant sexual behavior, like bisexual degeneracy
pick one
>take flattering photos on instagram with lighting/make up and photoshop etc
WEW
E
W
10/10
>>72534035
We're going to spawn Slaanesh at this rate.
Yes, or rather, it already happened.
>>72532808
>the fall of modern society
There is no fall, only "momentary" decrease in uprise. If there was a downfall, you'd know it.
>>72534205
This
>>72534205
And they had shotgun weddings when a wild fetus appeared instead of sterilizing themselves with hormones or aborting the thjng
![tazs_angels_demi_rose_makeup_tutorial_snapchat+%25286%2529[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/QFt0vK4.jpg "tazs_angels_demi_rose_makeup_tutorial_snapchat+%25286%2529[1].jpg")
>>72534263
have some ramen, you sound bitter
>>72533978
pretty interesting stuff
>>72532808
No, but I could agree with all this mainstream tolerance towards faggots, trans, feminists and whatever other buzz word sexualities is a contributing factor. It's to the point that these freaks are distracting even your average person from day to day life with their mental illness actually being taken seriously as a political and societal issue. If you want to be a faggot, fine, I don't care honestly. However them interjecting themselves into every aspect of society like they somehow are not an example of failed genetics should be a crime.
>>72534126
>>72534205
After Nero, Roman Empire started going down.
It was slowly anyway, but after that anyone could be proclaimed Emperor, which would be one of the causes of the weakining of the Empire.
>>72534481
I can't remember who said this.
But it is because there are no wars, or struggle to survive.
Thus, humanity doesn't need to reproduce, and there are more fags and strong independent women.
Here, we don't have that problem, because after every earthquake there is an increase in the birth rate.
>>72534209
No m8, there was boundless degeneracy all throughout the empire, even after he was gone. Look up what was discovered about Roman sexuality from Pompeii. Look up the brothels during Roman times.
>>72534481
What you are talking about goes far beyond tolerance. I never really cared if two faggots got married. It's none of my business. However, a couple of dykes suing a Christian photographer because he doesn't want to photograph their wedding for religious reasons is far beyond tolerance. It is domineering.
>>72532808
A symptom as others have said. If it wasn't for the promotion of feminism and the break down of the nuclear family it wouldn't be like this.
In the past, people married off very early and started families. Just about everyone had a spouse and that worked, for generations. Now that men and women can't seem to get along they both just go out for one night stands where you need no skill other than looking attractive to succeed. The result is the whole 80-20 rule thing.
>>72534205
Our parents were filthy degenerates too. Society has been on the decline since we got rid of arranged marriages.
>>72534481
Perhaps you can still keep the faggots, trans, and working females around. Just tell them that sexual expression/parading is criminal as public distraction.
>>72533922
That's because thos issues are a meme, you're on pol, dubsfag, don't forget it
>>72535037
Also legalizing divorce, not sure which one came first globally.
>>72534775
nothing shocking to what we see in brothels today
No Caligula was an early emperor and although he lat republic also and its bout of Degeneracy at this point the empire had reformed a moral authority.
However the empires grip on it was tedious at best and it did eventually succumb again in the 400's ad
>>72532808
Yes. Millennials think everything that brings pleasure is good, and anything stressful is bad. They're not realistic
>>72533185
This.
>>72535345
>millennials
this shit has been on the roll since 1965 asshole
>>72533026
NOT AN ARGUMENT
captcha 666
>>72535037
>>72535223
>arranged marriages and divorces are bad
I'm sorry no one wants to be with your creepy ass.
>>72534390
>caked her face in makeup
WEW SHE SHOULD MODEL
SHITSKIN
>>72535443
>1965
This shit has been going on for far, far longer than you think senpai.
>>72535291
Except that in the US, NV excepted, brothels are illegal. In Roman times, they were taxed and prostitutes had rules about what they were allowed to wear in public, they had to be registered, etc... This was true even when emperors tried to reform the morals of the empire.
>>72533026
Just watched that and I felt my mind explode.
What do I watch next?
True reasons for the downfall
>overuse of makeup
>overuse of clothing that hides their fat
>breast enhancement
>push up bras
>plastic surgery
^all of these create the illusion that a 4/10 thinks she is an 8/10 and thus you have other idiot men fawning over legitimately ugly girls who just know how to disguise themselves to look good
plus they post this all over the internet and get guys to tell them they are beautiful when in reality they are ugly/very normal looking
watch this and never watch porn again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWM4bJNpch0
basically, its the jews
>>72535557
Arranged marriages are good. Learn how to read
And of course divorces are bad, how could you possibly think otherwise?
>>72533333
nice quints
>>72535782
Romans were quite different from us in terms of sex and the value of human life.
but brothels in the US were not illegal until the 1930;s
>>72535034
>A symptom as others have said. If it wasn't for the promotion of feminism and the break down of the nuclear family it wouldn't be like this.
Marriage rates are plummeting also in Islamic nations
Where's the promotion of feminism there?
Women need men less in technological societies where they can earn their own money and possess their own transport
Feminism just follows the trend of society. Feminism doesn't even exist. All women are "feminist".
Again where's the "feminism" in an agricultural economy? Does not happen
What we call feminism is simply the modern life and options of a female
>>72535094
That's what I meant actually, I didn't mean kill them off. I just think they don't deserve special treatment or privileges for being a genetic failure.
>>72534311
who s to say we haven t already?
>>72532808
>/pol/ thread where the op is a one sentence question
>hint, the answer is usually "no"
>>72532808
>I don't get laid
>therefore modern society is falling
/pol9k/ is pathetic
>>72536120
does the suffrage of women have anything to do with that?
>>72534311
The parallels between the fall of the Eldar and western civilization is crazy. I never expected 40k to be so deep.
>>72536050
>Arranged marriages are good. Learn how to read
non sequitur
>And of course divorces are bad, how could you possibly think otherwise?
They're not something to celebrate over, but like abortions they are sometimes necessary. Would you rather have people be forced to continue being in a loveless relationship where they just constantly cheat and lie to each other?
>>72534035
What's that from, anon?
>>72532808
no, the downfall of society is due to smartphones, snapchat, and twitter.
prove me wrong.
>>72536342
>thinks 40k is deep
You should go outside.
>>72534035
What's that from? Also
>Mysticism
Literally every chick I know is into horoscopes and astrology.
>>72536408
it is better for the children parents stay together and it is rather selfish of the parents. People divorce over reasons that are arbitrary and flimsy that is should be restricted as a principle
>>72536485
>>72536552
Legend of the Galactic Heroes
Worth watching even if you're not into anime.
>>72532808
I'll let her fall on my modern society
>>72536408
>non sequitur
I literally said that society had been on the decline since we got rid of arranged marriage and you implied that I was saying arranged marriages were bad
That's not a non sequitur, you just can't read
also
>Would you rather have people be forced to continue being in a loveless relationship
Yes. If divorce were illegal, people would stop seeing marriage as something temporary and might be a little more careful about who they marry. It's supposed to be "till death do us part" not "when I get bored of you, I'll take your kids and half your money"
>>72533922
this is becuase they're all programmed drones eating up the "alt media" lies about artifical wombs etc which is just part of the same NWO agenda.
Feminism and sluttery is bad yes, but the alternative they propose is controlled opposition, the real agenda involves things like transhumanism and becoming like gods (satan's plan)
>virgin social pariah autists
>jealous of normies
>pick values opposite of what they want
>"muh values"
>"degeneracy is... is bad ..."
>craves attention
>doesn't get any
>is autist
>starts liking Hitler instead
All of /pol/
>>72534241
Haha, wow she was literally the biggest slut ever. That sextape man, wow! I spanked so hard to that shit when I was 14. Then Tila went off the deep end and became "Hitila." Now she's "normal" again.
>>72533607
Wtf
>>72536798
>the shit posters show up
>>72536798
Slut detected
>>72536848
>pretends Tila is a normie
just go back to reddirt, newfag.
Tila was shitposting on pol and /k/ while you were in diapers.
>>72534311
The more you look at at each aspect of Chaos symbolises the plagues of western society
the emperor symbolises a brown Hitler(removing degeneracy which is Chaos) from society
basically NWO
also
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Illuminati
>>72536798
>virgin social pariah autists
>craves attention
uwot
>>72536747
Saying that society is on decline due to arranged marriages implies that you're saying they are bad.
>It's supposed to be "till death do us part" not "when I get bored of you, I'll take your kids and half your money"
People make mistakes and what you're saying is more of an argument against laws that deal with child support and custody rather than divorce in general.
>>72536552
and literally most of /pol/ believe in god.
religion is the most blue pill you can get.
>>72537329
what sort of mental gymnastics training must be practice to make this distinct? Divorce does not offer incentives and leverage that disadvantages women.
>>72537337
>religion is blue pill
>dat flag
you are doing God's work.
>>72537329
>Saying that society is on decline due to arranged marriages implies that you're saying they are bad.
I said since we got rid of them. I'll spell it out for you since I can tell you're a little slow on the uptake: Society is on the decline because we got rid of arranged marriage and because we legalized divorce.
>People make mistakes
And they should have to live with the consequences of these mistakes without tearing apart the foundation of civilization. I have no sympathy for degenerate who marry people they're not prepared to spend the rest of their lives with.
>>72535572
This is why women won't fuck or date your autistic self
>>72533607
what the hell.
I already had you.
Didn't even remember.
>>72537337
>religion is the most blue pill you can get.
Thank you, greatest ally. I will renounce my false god and begin to worship my jewish overlords like a good goy
>>72536120
On that I will certainly agree, but they were also a lot more familiar with death from non-man made causes than we are. If you intentionally destroyed crops, that could get you a death sentence because it could lead to starvation. They were also less able to deal with communicable diseases, and people would die from them a lot more often. I think that makes sense that they valued life less/differently than we do, being exposed to death like they were.
>>72532808
No.
>>72533026
this is like confirmation bias.
women are inherently submissive. you gotta "beat" them into it though..
>>72537578
I made a typo, but my argument still stands. You said society is on decline since arrange marriages were eliminated. Therefore you implied not having arranged marriages is bad. I really don't know why you're being so smug about it.
>I have no sympathy for degenerate who marry people they're not prepared to spend the rest of their lives with.
You just sound autistic. People make mistakes and people change. Not everything is as organized as you want it to be.
>>72533922
I think my favorite part about pol is knowing I'm not all alone in the world with some of my unfavorable opinions. It's great to see other countries too
>>72537961
what's so bad about concerted marriages, the Godfather got one and they turned out okay.
>>72537961
>Therefore you implied not having arranged marriages is bad. I really don't know why you're being so smug about it.
I certainly don't think the decline of society is a good thing, do you?
>People make mistakes
Yes, and these mistakes should have consequences. If you legalize divorce, these mistakes have no consequence and women are actually incentivized to make them
>people change
If your changes are making your marriage worse, they are bad changes. Good changes strengthen a marriage.
>>72537589
>wanting to date or fuck that thing (shitskin) with a pound of make up on her face or listen to the bullshit that comes out of her mouth
sign me up
>>72533185
Hit everything in one post. Damn, nigger. That was awesome.
>>72532808
Yeah. I get envious of other people's sex lives too because I cant score shit.
Im dead serious and not even trolling. I just like to be frontal about it.
>>72533607
This.
I would love to have children someday, but unfortunately it usually comes attached to a woman who will most likely take them away from me.
>>72532808
>Oh its just sex anon! Eveyrone likes Sex!
It's also ruined the nuclear family and pride/ambition along with it. Instant gratification has taken over and no one aspires to much anymore. Everyone just shouts.
>>72536507
Those tools simply take women's craving for male attention and put it on steroids. Women have always been a force of destruction when it comes to civilizations.
>>72538954
>nuclear family
>pride/ambition
Oh anon, don't you know these things are highly racist/sexist? Are you some kind of radical right-winger?
>>72536747
The real solution is the removal of "no-fault" divorce. Women should not have the power to divorce-rape a man that did nothing wrong.
>>72537934
Women are physically weaker. Naturally they'd fall into a less dominating position
>>72538954
The nuclear family was the death throes of traditional marriage
Women didn't want it, men didn't want it, both walked away
>>72539291
Society thrived when women viewed their fathers or husbands as the most powerful figure in their lives. Now that they have been replaced by the government, women run around like wild animals.
>>72532808
Yes it is a shame we aren't living in the good ol great america anymore.
why aren't we having sex after marriage anymore? what is happening to society!?
>>72537114
>>72537221
degenerate whore
http://www.xvideos.com/video12575965/tila_anal
>>72538647
fuck yourself!
does your penis know who is touching him?
>>72539350
Nuclear family is the bedrock of civilization. Without it, you have single mothers raising thug-spawn that's destined to be sent to jail (costing even MORE taxpayer dollars than the mother's welfare alone).
The last few decades have proven that women are not responsible enough to handle their own sexual urges without consequences. They fuck thugs and expect the taxpayers to pay for the offspring.
>>72539350
Yeah, all children should be raised by single mother because that always works out so well. That's what men want, since they know how sexist traditional marriage is
>>72539276
>The real solution is the removal of "no-fault" divorce. Women should not have the power to divorce-rape a man that did nothing wrong.
Complete myth
And if you make divorce very difficult, women either won't get married to Joe the burger flipper in the first place, or they'll make their husband's life a complete misery and bitterly resent him
Marriage is a shitty archaic institution
>>72539484
Thanks bro, saving that shit.
>>72539491
you can also argue that the nuclear family was the beginning of the atomization/individualization of society since it removes the family from its context of an extended family/clan/tribe. Two parents are crucial but still incomplete.
tfw most technological advances serve only to push people's degenerate lifestyles instead of making us immortal or able to terraform
>>72532808
>Demi Rose will never ever do nudes
>>72532808
Depends on what you mean, if you're referring to birthrates well the cost of raising a child and welfare play a huge role in who is reproducing and who isn't
>>72539594
>women either won't get married to Joe the burger flipper in the first place
Women shouldn't be getting married to men they aren't willing to spend the rest of their lives with in the first place
>or they'll make their husband's life a complete misery and bitterly resent him
This is why the bible says women shouldn't be allowed to withhold sex from their husbands and that women should obey their husbands. This is the foundation of civilization.
>Marriage is a shitty archaic institution
Single mother detected
>>72536324
RED PILL HOLY SHIT
>>72540114
it makes sense, IIRC age of consent was raised once they could evercise political influence as well. The stale pussy union has no tolerance for scabs.
>>72537337
Jews need to find jesus
>>72539491
>Nuclear family is the bedrock of civilization
the Nuclear family as we know it isn't that ancient of a concept, it was created after the industrial revolution to make it easier for families to move.
The true bedrock of humanity is the extended family. Humans are an oddity, When it comes to maternal bonds to a child we have least compared to all other simians. No other simian has the same rate of infanticide as humans, which is shocking compared to the rate of Chimps, our closest living cousin.
The idea is that in actuality, a good portion of the tribe would take care of the child at various times, including grandparents.
>>72537060
>>72537114
>>72537221
So she was basically Milo with a vag. Dude, she's using you for hits and attention. I bet you contributed to her GoFundMe you beta cuck. Then you have the nerve to bitch about SJW and "gamer" girls with patreons.
>>72535818
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g_Z4gLgFEI
>>72539691
You can argue that, yes.
Successful tribes expand to the point that they become nation-states, which requires overriding certain tribal instincts in people.
>>72540404
This concept you mentioned may have something to do with women's neverending desire to grow government to the point that it takes over all duties of the tribe.
>>72539868
>Women shouldn't be getting married to men they aren't willing to spend the rest of their lives with in the first place
A woman could marry a man and then he shows no ambition, doesn't progress. Or is badly injured/disfigured. Why would a woman want to stick around? Even if she married with good intentions. What if the man cheats on her?
>This is why the bible says women shouldn't be allowed to withhold sex from their husbands and that women should obey their husbands. This is the foundation of civilization.
The bible cannot deviate from reality. Women trade their bodies for long term commitment.
"Women should obey their husbands"
Yes they had no choice when the ONLY work was farming or mining or some variation thereof.
Women can earn their own money now, they don't need men like they did in the past. But humans are still basically the same as 10k years ago so women DESIRE ideally a relationship with a man, but a man better than herself.
>>72540404
>the Nuclear family as we know it isn't that ancient of a concept, it was created after the industrial revolution to make it easier for families to move.
It's not a concept or a creation. The "nuclear family" just happened.
Just another stepping stone in human history.
/pol/ in a nutshell:
"How can we rig things or turn back the clock so that women are forced to be companions for men"
>>72539717
the immortality is a carrot on a stick. It's a lie. You can't become as gods.
>>72540704
This is some quality bait you've made here, sir. Australia would be proud.
WHO
THE
FUCK
IS
THAT
>>72540704
This is the only time the Helen Lovejoy response isn't a canard. Marriage isn't about childrearing and providing a stable environment.
What you talk about hypergamy is true but working women makes marriage less attractive for men as well, when women lean in men drop out and don't develop themselves into their betters
>>72540962
Feminism:
How can we rig things so that women have 100% sexual power and 100% financial power, yet keep men around for fucking or fixing shit that we break?
>>72540962
It's further than /r9k/ ever gets in these discussions.
>>72541084
I presume that 'isn't' was supposed to be an 'is'.
>>72541247
yes that was an error
>>72541084
Natural selection. The men that drop out aren't worth of reproducing because they're not good enough. Those that stay in and accept their working wife as those worthy of reproducing. Men that see marriage less attractive because the woman works aren't men worth being with.
>>72532808
I guess so, I mean, if you believe what people do sexually has the ability to physically destroy society, yeah sure why not.
>>72540694
No, it was likely an adaptation to humanities incredibly long developmental time. Split the work raising, give the elderly of the tribe something to do, it also exposed the child to more people to learn from.
>>72540819
That doesn't mean it's a good thing, you're now placing the weight of child rearing on merely two people.
>>72540704
>A woman could marry a man and then he shows no ambition, doesn't progress.
Well, then she made a bad decision and should have to suffer the consequences.
> Or is badly injured/disfigured. Why would a woman want to stick around?
You think a women should be able to divorce a man just because he gets injured?
>be soldier
>fight for my country
>take bullet to the spine
>can no longer work
>at least I have my wife and family
>nope she's divorcing me and taking my children
What a world, man
>Even if she married with good intentions. What if the man cheats on her?
In this case, the man should be put to death, so she wouldn't have to worry about divorce.
>Women can earn their own money now, they don't need men like they did in the past.
>women don't need men
The genders are yin and yang, they complete each other, Women need men, men need women. Women who work are typically miserable, men who stay at home with children are typically the same. There's a reason gender roles exist
>>72541090
You want to deny people their freedom because you're a envious little shit?
You evil thing. You're the villain that needs to be killed.
The sexual frustration on /pol/ is real today. We get it, you want degeneracy police and fashion police to stop woman from wearing shorts and yoga pants. You want to install sections of Sharia law but say you hate Islam. The reason why mudslimes are doing so well is because they connect with lonely frustrated men like you guys, and whether you want to admit it or not, you have more in common with the Islamic ideology than your native one. Very sad state of affairs here.
>>72541090
>Feminism:
>How can we rig things so that women have 100% sexual power and 100% financial power, yet keep men around for fucking or fixing shit that we break?
That is women! Men are never good enough. This drove our species. Constant female dissatisfaction with the male, constant male drive to screw as many women as possible.
Men are men and women are women.
You ascribe too much to political tags and ideas.
It's all nonsense.
This is that Sargon guy;
"If only we can defeat feminism, women will be absolutely perfect!"
How crazy does that sound. Yet essentially it's what he proposes.
>>72541322
not all change is progress. The marrying up impulse is only eugenic when it encourages women do not pursue cads but rather dads.
>>72536408
>Thinking marriage is about love and sex
This board is 18+ only, leave
>>72541437
>You want to install sections of Sharia law but say you hate Islam.
>Western civilization is collapsing
>Islamic civilization is spreading and quickly taking over the world
We should take some notes
>>72540704
Women have demonstrated that they cannot be trusted to make that determination. Once they have the option, they abandon marriage completely, like an irrational herd of people destroying fire escapes by crowding them all at once. Thus, lifetime marriage.
>>72541555
Islam today is rooted in third world countries, whatmakes you think they're going to save western civilization when they don't have one to begin wjth.
>>72541483
>Men are never good enough.
We built western civilization, and invented all of the technology you're using to shitpost right now. What have women accomplished for humanity aside from raising children?
No, Marxism is.
But..
Sexual liberation is a product of feminism, which is a form of Marxism.
So it is one of the many things that are contributing to it, but it alone isn't the source.
I'ts the fucking commies, it's always the fucking commies.
>>72541405
Why would have to suffer the consequences? Why do you want to force people to suffer and be miserable? You are a horrible inhuman being if evil is all you're capabl of. Evil is the opposite of humane.
It makes no sense for a women to suffer when there's a remedy. You're saying, someone poisoned you now instead of healing yourself you need to suffer and die. That makes no sense.
>Women who work are typically miserable
The ladies at my office are some of the happiest people and they all do not want to their have good life ruined by objectively bad men like you.
>>72541483
Feminism is simply women's childish nature politicized. We all want the benefits without the responsibilities, yet women are the ones that see this as a god-given right, not a pipe dream.
>>72541322
>Bulgaria talking about being worthy men
>>72541437
Islam is a mad dog that should be taken behind the barn and put down. That said, the idea of maintaining a degree of modesty in both sexes is an idea that should be embraced. However, legislating this is likely the wrong way to go about it when social endeavors are likely to produce it anyway.
>>72541679
I don't think they're going to save western civilization, but I think we could save ourselves by adopting some of their ideas such as not wanting to replace your own people because you feel guilty about your race
>>72541679
That's the complete opposite of what he said, idiot.
>>72541608
Watch nobody getting married ever again except for the most desperate because mothers in the higher state strata of society will warn daughters not to get married and marriage will have extremely high requirements for men.
>>72541781
No one wants to immigrate to these Islamic countries, they never had the issue to begin with.
>>72541431
Freedom doesn't mean everyone else mops up the mess you leave behind wherever you go. Feminism wants to give all "freedoms" to women while keeping men chained to their roles as maintainers of civilization.
Jews are the cause if the downfall
Sexual liberation is a syptom
/thread
>>72541733
>Why would have to suffer the consequences? Why do you want to force people to suffer and be miserable? You are a horrible inhuman being if evil is all you're capabl of. Evil is the opposite of humane.
>It makes no sense for a women to suffer when there's a remedy. You're saying, someone poisoned you now instead of healing yourself you need to suffer and die. That makes no sense.
Yeah why do we punish murderers? You want them to suffer and die? Why do you want to force murders to suffer and be miserable? It makes no sense for a murderer to suffer when there's a remedy.
>>72541743
>>72541787
Then why is he adopting Islamic ideology, forest nigger?
>>72541484
Don't be butthurt because you're not worthy to be a dad.
>>72541901
Yeah, but even if they did, the muslims wouldn't let them.
Try building a catholic church in Yemen. See what happens, while in western civilizations the government will build mosques for the invaders out of guilt
all i know is i don't see any woman as marriage material.
i'd only marry a pure and virginal bride. but they're rare as unicorns.
>>72541972
Don't call a brazillian a forest nigger. Jungle nigger is far more appropriate, learn some geography.
>>72542149
You're just looking in the wrong places, then. There are still plenty of virgin women, but it's a matter of timing and opportunity.
>>72541972
Islamic ideology goes far beyond controlling female sexuality, this is simply the reason they have so much power and are spreading so successfully. The problem with Islam is the fact it kills basically everything that is not an adult straight muslim male with a lot of followers and money.
>>72541964
That comparison makes no sense. Murder is a crime, there is an intent that is generally recognized as bad as it causes harms to others (who are likely to be innocent) and is therefore condemened. And even then, not all killing of people is murder.
How does it compare to women being forced to stay into a marriage that is harmful to them? If anything the woman is the victim here. Do you want women not to get married because most men are shit and wouldn't fit the requirements?
>tfw my 13 year old sister dresses like a slut
>>72541483
>Men are never good enough. This drove our species.
I agree. Men built civilizations to impress women. We risked our lives, we took the dirty jobs for the better paycheck, we sacrificed ourselves for women. We all gained from that mindset as a society.
However, if hypergamy isn't kept in check, most men quickly realize that women are never satisfied and would rather torpedo a family than grow up. Harems sprout up around the top 20% of males while the bottom 80% stop giving a shit. And society DEPENDS on beta males producing more than they consume.
>>72541972
>taking the few good ideas in islam and applying them to western civilization is adopting islamic ideology
what?
>>72539358
dont buy into it, theres still women out there who are true.
I sure hope so.
>>72542014
we're regressing into a low investment mating strategies, that is the pattern of lesser peoples and races, which bears worse fruit. The groups that are able to form stable families will have the future, that's why american blacks will solve themselves and islam may actually accomplish its monoculture.
>>72532808
It's nothing more than a symptom The real causes are much deeper and have their roots in the foundation of western civilization.
>>72542473
Of course it is, retard. Read that sentence a few times.
>>72542385
Whoop her ass. When I saw my sister going down that path, I nipped that shit in the bud.
>>72542374
Ideally, that would be good. Providing those women never reproduce, and those who would enter those situations where marriage succeeds, they would literraly be bred out of the gene pool as a waste of resources.
>>72542495
>islam
>stable families
So stable they kill their own children.
>>72532808
>sexual liberation
Would you prefer pic related?
>Sexual liberation era
>More virgins now than before
How does this happen anyway?
>>72542694
An increase in the rate of autism.
>>72542374
>Murder is a crime, there is an intent that is generally recognized as bad as it causes harms to others (who are likely to be innocent)
Destroying a family should be a crime, there's intent to harm children (who are likely to be innocent)
>How does it compare to women being forced to stay into a marriage that is harmful to them? If anything the woman is the victim here.
What about the children? Should they just have chosen not to have been born their parents
> Do you want women not to get married because most men are shit and wouldn't fit the requirements?
I think all men and women should get married to whoever their parents decide they should get married to, they should have little to no say in the matter.
Getting rid of arranged marriage was the worst thing we ever did to western civilization
>>72542681
i would prefer the 1950s and for women to not be massive whores.
>>72541685
>We built western civilization, and invented all of the technology you're using to shitpost right now.
It does not matter.
You can explain that until you're blue in the face.
The situation is what it is. Uncharted waters.
No law will turn back the tide. Blaming no fault divorce etc or cultural marxism or SJWs, look this is OK for a snide Youtube critique but it goes nowhere.
Short of inventing a special super wepaon which permanently eradicates all electrical devices, medical advances and combustion engines, the current gender dynamics will continue along current lines into the future.
>>72542559
So if I take one idea from an ideology, I automatically adopt that entire ideology?
What?
>>72532808
that already happened in the 70's, what you're seeing now is the result of it and how there are no brakes to the reasoning behind it and it will just keep going until things completely fall apart
>>72542641
they at least replace themselves and yourselves if things progess.
>>72533333
>>72542614
>they would literraly be bred out of the gene pool
That's what butthurt men said about the unmarriable feminists of the 1800s. They were wrong.
If anything the ones getting bred out of the gene pool would be you, because you're undesirables, therefore no woman would choose you. While they would just marry good desirable men. It's already happening as the higher classes are dual income.
>tfw right wing conservative virgin and darn proud of it
>>72542818
>Short of inventing a special super wepaon which permanently eradicates all electrical devices, medical advances and combustion engines, the current gender dynamics will continue along current lines into the future.
No they won't. Women will continue to elect leaders who let in Islamic migrants and eventually Western civilization will fall and islamic civilization will take over completely and the first thing they will do is reverse the current gender dynamics further than you can even imagine.
The only way to stop this is to get rid of women's suffrage.
>>72542859
You just admitted they're low-value crap.
It's mainly a combination of consumer capitalism and gender equality.
>>72542809
>1950's
Ah, a classy gentlemen such as myself I see
>>72535538
Then I'd recommend you come up with an argument.
Whenever I am faced with a woman acting irrational, I step back and think "will this get her access to food/water/shelter?" Break it all down with evolutionary psychology. And don't ever expect a woman to stick by your side when shit heads south, that's a myth from Hollywood.
>>72533607
Im on my phone!
What flag is that???
>>72543000
You want to stop the reversion of the current gender dynamics by attempting to reverse current gender dynamics by depriving people of their means to protect themselves?
>>72542641
They have so many children that they can afford to, this is why they are taking over Europe
>>72542770
This.
Women have clearly shown they aren't capable of choose proper mates when their sexual value is peaking. It's not fair because their sexual value far exceeds their maturity (18-25). So they follow their cunts to the ghetto to fuck Jamal who in turn ruins their lives with bastard spawn and/or violence.
>>72532808
Photoshoop? Because muh dik tbqh
>>72532808
what you are witnessing is cuck faggots will pay a bitch like this to sit on her ass and cam whore, giving her a false sense of importance based solely on her fragile limited looks.
>>72532808
What's wrong with a girl taking care of her body? Jesus fucking christ op I knew you were a faggot, but this is an entirely new level.
>>72543000
>No they won't. Women will continue to elect leaders who let in Islamic migrants and eventually Western civilization will fall and islamic civilization will take over completely and the first thing they will do is reverse the current gender dynamics further than you can even imagine.
>The only way to stop this is to get rid of women's suffrage.
Islam blahblah
Saudi divorce rate high
http://www.arabnews.com/featured/news/744426
Rise in divorce in Iran linked to shift in status of women
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-divorce-idUSKCN0IB0GQ20141022
>>72543141
No, I want to reverse the current gender dynamics back the way they were in western civilization before we got rid of arranged marriages. I don't want our civilization to be taken over by Islam.
>>72543036
which has no bearing on the fact they like most other religious believers are insulated from the sexual liberation and don't have birth control, abortion, and careerist lifestyles to drive their babymaking rates down.
>>72543299
Taking care of your body is one thing. Flaunting it online for attention and validation is purely degenerate.
>>72541322
>The men that drop out aren't worth of reproducing because they're not good enough.
According to women's standards.
You're essentially handing control of the gene pool to women. The same women who blow paychecks at nail salons and spas, who vote based upon abortion and wage inequality.
Women whose entire culture is based upon fabricated trends from hair to clothes to music.
You're cucking yourself without realizing it.
>>72543382
well said
>>72543137
Uzbekistan
>>72533607
Indeed, we can either meet the same end all other great civilization met or go down the untreaded path of artificial wombs
>>72542770
when your parents dont like each other it destroys the family. sometimes divorce is the best option.
also it seems like you want arranged marriages and no divorce ever. but are also saying that women should be careful about who they marry?
>>72542818
This guy gets it, women are our "equals' only thanks to technology.
>>72535557
No fault divorces are bad.Not divorce in general. If you want to leave you shouldn't get half the assets you should leave
>>72542934
Undesirable? Shit, I better go tell my wife she made a mistake when she married me. Anyway, ad homs aside, it will happen. If people fuck up social conduct enough, things happen where collapses and then resets occur. We're unfortunately at a dark time in the current cycle of our superpower status.
>>72543474
Yeah, it would really help out. Women have greatly overestimated their value nowadays and something like that would knock them down enough of a notch to bring back some normality to our social interactions.
>>72543134
Bollocks. Even bottom rung girls can easily manage to get fucked.
>>72542770
>Destroying a family
Forcing a woman to stay with a bad husband is destroying a family. A children that witnesses their parents fight everyday is no better off than a child who witnesses their parents divorce. In fact he's worse. The woman should not be made to needlessly suffer at the hands of a bad man, as that will reflect on the children, as well.
>What about the children?
See above.
>I think all men and women should get married to whoever their parents decide they should get married to, they should have little to no say in the matter
Why do you hate people and want them to suffer?
Parents often do not make choices with the child's happiness and best interest in mind. If they cared, they would leave the final choice to the child as it's their life that is affected and not the parents', so the child's opinion would be the most important. Why do you want to make children suffer at the hands of abusive parents?
>>72532808
I think we could get over it in a white only society, maybe japs too, though that might not work, even if whites are not jealous about small dicked japs, jap men would be really agry of whites ruining fine tight jap pussies..
Look its another /pol/ has insecurities about women and sex so they blame them for the downfall of society thread.
Society is fine, you've got problems OP.
>>72543317
Wew lad, I didn't even go to your links, I'm sure Saudi Arabia is a feminist utopia full of single moms, I'm sure they have the exact same gender dynamics as the west
also, see this:
>>72543382
>>72532808
Yes
>>72543478
Well, arranged marriages remove the whole women needing to choose thing. Besides, people don't like each other all the time and they suck up and deal with it. Humans have been doing that for as long as we've existed and to pretend it's such a chore now is a bit silly.
>>72543805
Society is many things, but in its current state it is far from fine.
>>72543333
Wait doesn't Islam feature arranged marriages?
>>72543333
You do want Islam though. Western civilization at the time of arranged marriages was the same as Islam. Fathers killing their own children because adult children are people wanting to live their own life, abusive parents and abusive spouses, etc. You do want Islam.
>protein world
so its the british version of GNC where they sell you unneeded shit to get swole.
>>72543710
Any girl can spread her legs and some man will eventually fuck her. Getting a guy to commit is the challenge. Unfortunately, modern society has encouraged slut culture to the point that committing to a woman is a high-risk, low-return decision.
>>72544019
That shit has pretty much been around forever in all precursors to existing successful societies.
>>72537221
/pol/ got to Tila and she has no ability to hide her power level. Maybe we shouldn't
>>72543478
>when your parents dont like each other it destroys the family. sometimes divorce is the best option.
Having parents who don't like each other is way worse than single motherhood. Single motherhood is child abuse.
>also it seems like you want arranged marriages and no divorce ever. but are also saying that women should be careful about who they marry?
If we don't have arranged marriages, women should be very careful about who they marry.
If the marriage is arranged, their parents can worry for them, and will make a better decision because they have more experience and are better able to make a rational decision rather than one based on sexual lust.
>>72544010
>people don't like each other all the time and they suck up and deal with it
no they dont. they fight constantly
>arranged marriages remove the whole women needing to choose thing
what about getting to choose? nobody wants to be forced to marry someone especially someone that they dont really know
>>72544020
>Western civilization at the time of arranged marriages was the same as Islam.
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>>72542694
>More virgins now than before
Because 90% of the dudes are virgins and 10% of the girls aren't
>>72543382
>You're essentially handing control of the gene pool to women
That's how humanity has evolved.
>The same women who blow paychecks at nail salons and spas
Men blow it on videogame consoles and gyms.
>who vote based upon abortion and wage inequality
Both are important issues. I'd get pissed too if I were getting paid less than my coworker for doing the exact same shit and abortion prevents crime and social burdens. No idea why you retards bitch about single mothers and then want to ban abortion, something that would create more single mothers.
>Women whose entire culture is based upon fabricated trends from hair to clothes to music.
Trends that are successful aren't fabricated, and men are the same. You're worse in fact, because your entire culture is based on whiny men circlejerk bullshit.
>>72532808
>sexual liberation
Sexual liberation of women have benefited men more than women(?)
It's not just sexual liberation but feminism as a whole that will/have destroy(ed) western civilization. We are now standing on the top of a hill built by white men - the only way forward is downhill.
Feminism = low birth rates, immigration from third world countries and the end of the white race.
>>72544313
Are you really going to tell me that people don't put up with bullshit every day instead of going out and breaking into a fist fight when they have a disagreement?
>>72542975
>>72543134
>>72543710
This is the fixed version
>>72535826
Hnnnggggg. Fucking thisssssssssss! The average female looks like shit, they don't take care of themselves but would rather cover up with expensive clothing and makeup. Men line up to get with them regardless so they control the sex. We need to take this back.
Just pop over to czechcasting to see what i'm on about. You have to scroll through pages before you find a decent looking one, this shit apply to the everyday female and it is even worse in countries with a near 30% obesity rate,
Lads ONLY YOU CAN PREVENT FOREST FIRES
>>72544313
>no they dont. they fight constantly
I don't like my boss, in fact I hate him, but we get along fine because I suck it up.
>nobody wants to be forced to marry someone especially someone that they dont really know
>implying you wouldn't be introduced to the person you're getting married to
>implying your parents wouldn't make sure they were decent and someone you could get along with
>>72532808
>sexual liberation
No idea what that means. My gf needs sex about four times every day. It's exhausting. She's committed as we have kids and they need a mum and dad. She wants another kid, so my ability to provide baby gravy is getting pushed. Shagging is very tiring.
As men, we must perform. And it's physically demanding. Our lovely women don't put as much effort into it. They can just like back and wiggle a bit.
