>he fell for the STEM meme
>>72522749
>he fell for the not-having-a-job meme
>>72522749
I've never understood how NEETs manage to convince themselves that they are actually the smart ones.
Willingly imprisoning yourself in the same 12x20 box for your whole life is some Brave New World shit
>>72522922
Assblasted stemfag who couldn't find a job detected
>>72523296
>implying I'm NEET
I just didn't fall for the STEM meme because my parents weren't fuckwits telling me to get a degree that would be useless by 2010 due to oversaturation, and instead encouraged me to pursue a degree I was interested in.
>>72523404
If you're happy with your choice, why are you so bootyblasted about STEM majors?
I went to an engineering college and literally everyone I know is employed and makes >55k.
>>72523708
What's your age? Times are changing, and while I know OP is baiting, it really is getting harder to get a job. CS guys are getting crushed by foreign competition, and the chemical engineering market took a shit when the oil prices collapsed
I don't get why STEM is pushed so hard on here as being something successful.
All that STEM does is guarantee you a life in the middle-class. It doesn't make you rich, it just makes you comfortable. You're still a pleb and will not ever actually contribute anything or make a name for yourself or ever become rich, you will live a comfortable life with a 3-4 bedroom house in nice area, have a fat wife and some kids, have a mortgage and other typical middle-class stuff.
Being a good boy and going through the education system, studying everyday, doing well on assessment and exams, getting that pretty good paying job at that nice place in the city with pretty good benefits, that isn't going to get you rich. That's going to get you comfortable.
If you want to get rich, you need to work outside the sandbox that is the education system and job market. You need to pick that sand-box up and shake all the sand out of it and fill it with your own substance.
You should still go for STEM if it is something that you are truly passionate about. If all you want is money, go for a humanities or an arts degree. But if you want to follow your dream, go for STEM. Who knows, you might actually get to make your hobby of working with STEM into an actual JOB one day! Sure, you won't be earning much in a STEM field and the hours are INSANE, but look at it this way: You will get to work with STEM, ALL DAY. Money and status isn't everything and getting to work with the one thing in life, that you are truly passionate about and feel that you can express yourself through, STEM, makes it worth it all. Leave 'success' to the kids in the Social Sciences, you are a Dreamer.
>>72524431
>>72524399
These
>>72523296
>tfw family is well off so i actually have a pretty big room
Never learned any STEM oficially and now I work as a full job programmer.
We actually have too much high-tech jobs and lack of engineers and programmers here.
>tfw STEM would be perfect if it were easier to get a job
>tfw I'd give no fucks wasting 2 years just hammering out code and tech writing
>tfw wrong demographic and the people they are hiring probably hate it
STEM is God tier.
It's sociology that's lowest ring of hell tier.
>>72524700
We have the opposite problem. What do you think happens when demand exceeds supply? Without government protectionism all those jobs will go to places with skillful engineers.
>>72524399
>STEM
>will not ever actually contribute anything
I really wonder what fields you inept retard think do contribute to society if not STEM.
Then again
>Australia
>>72525083
>STEM
>God tier
Not if you're talking about job placement. It's down there with liberal arts when it comes to kids not being able to find work out of college.
>>72525369
It's an artificial problem caused by people actually worse than liberal arts, at least they stay home and act pretentious on tumblr, it's when they're actually working and implementing SJW policies and writing CoCs.
Also, outsourcing takes a chunk out of jobs too..
But only junior positions because then companies that use outsourced resources then have to hire a senior developer to fix up the bullshit they get back. In a better world something would exist to prevent this, it'd be beautiful to watch Trump try.
>>72525369
every degree is down there with liberal arts if you're too stupid to get internships
plus you have a shit ton of people who have terrible skills socializing with others
I got a STEM degree and now I sit in my own office all day where at least 50% of my day is shitposting on /pol/ between actual work.
Things turned out okay.
>>72526564
And STEM is the one area where internships are basically a requirement. Other fields you can take or leave them. So the competition internships is just as fierce, resulting in lots of jobless graduates.
>>72524624
fucking kekkkk
comp sci/math degree
gpa: 2.5
already have my own business, work with notorious reformed felon hackers and made 30/hr working anytime I want 50/hr after 2am doing service on our servers. Fell for the STEM meme, fucked up in school, still doing okay
>>72526685
>reading pol at work
nigga, that could easily end badly
>>72526774
>work part time pizza delivery to pay rent
>late nights followed by 8 am classes
>2.7 gpa
>visit advisor, ask if theres any internships I might qualify for
>"lol no, fuck off retard"
>all internships posted are looking for grads and masters students
what the fuck am I supposed to do? if Im not a rich fag with mommy supporting me and it effects my grades, fucking not a single person on campus has sympathy for that and its fucked up.
>>72526930
Damn, how'd you overcome that GPA?
>>72526979
What's your major? Internships aren't an absolute requirement for most jobs unless you majored in STEM. Internships always look better on your resume but depending on your field you won't be automatically discounted for not having done one.
Honestly, the people who call STEM a meme are just upset that it won't instantly grant you 100k starting with 0 competition.
It's not like there are many other degrees that are much better either way. The only other good option is medicine.
That feel when had a kid in High school and had to do manual labor until I learned a trade in school. Now I do less manual labor and get paid twice as before.
Feels okay man
What is better than STEM?
>>72527197
Women's studies, obviously.
>>72527197
Business
>>72523296
I imprison myself in my room in my free time.
Why would I want to go outside and socialize and other inane boring shit when I have a beastly computer?
>>72524120
CS white dude here, I landed a summer internship and they hire 95 percent of interns, so Im set.
>>72527017
I threw $500 into starting a business and we basically did everything ourselves, 3 people. it was insanely hard work at first but we keep snowballing. Waiting to get bought by amazon because we are shekeling their workspaces project.
we also undercut local internet service providers (comcast and verizon) by 2x the price and gave 4x better speeds
I'm doing Agriculture. Is that a meme too?
>>72527297
i like you
Everytime talk about STEM they seem to focus on the TEM and not really science. If you are in Bio or Chem getting a job is super easy in both.
>>72527437
Y-you too
>>72524624
I really like your flag, Brazil. It doesn't look like any other flag. Very unique.
>>72526979
>work part time pizza delivery to pay rent
>2.7 gpa
>what the fuck am I supposed to do?
Stop making shitty excuses for your mediocrity. You have a part time pizza delivery job and that's why you have a shitty GPA? Really? Do you think the top students don't work or have other shit going on in their lives?
How about try harder before you complain?
>>72522749
Isn't this board supposed to be about politics?
>>72526979
talk to professors and get in on their research
>>72522749
>he fell for the working for a living meme
>>72527348
What is your business, anon? You've piqued my interest
>>72527619
They won't take him, he's a shitty student
>>72527603
>>72527603
>>72527603
I know the top students, and no they don't fucking work, because I'm a comp sci major and our homework just takes lots of hours. I didn't say it was hard but most of our weekly projects are 15+ hour deals, on top of working at least 25 hours to support myself and you know, all of my other classes that aren't programming. so yeah, all the top kids are "FULL TIME STUDENT LOL" or they have a 12 hour a week part time student job, you can right fuck off because im busting my ass
>>72527520
i meant that as in i like your views on socialising as i have similar views myself
>>72527884
>most of our weekly projects are 15+ hours
Sounds like you just suck.
>>72527603
Are you dumb? Nowhere in that post did he imply his pizza job was the reason for his lower GPA. Or do you just not understand how greentext works?
>>72522749
>>72527114
Major is comp sci
>>72527884
>15+ hour deals
lmao u r really dumb for real.
I have finished projects in 3 hours time.
Im not busting my ass and I have a 4.0 in both of my majors, and I'll have earned my degrees in 3 years You are just brian dead or something. stay mad.
>>72528085
This pretty much. STEM is being completely outsourced to cheap Indians. Good luck with that computer science degree when Pajeet is willing to do the same job with the same qualifications for a fraction of the cost.
>>72528114
you need an internship.
>>72528051
You should probably work on your reading comprehension. He said he has a pizza delivery job, which leads to late nights, followed by early morning classes, then mentions his low GPA. You're retarded if you don't infer that he's blaming the pizza delivery job (late night work) on his inability to succeed in early morning classes.
>>72527919
I know, silly.
I get enough socializing in class and at work.
Why would I want to waste my free time doing shit with people or going out at night when I can be at home playing videogames, watching movies, listening to good music and having lots of fun.
>>72528036
>>72528159
The prof uses my code for examples and im fucking good at it, these aren't babby intro cs or even data structures projects im talking about, algorithms and operating systems. They take everybody that long
>>72528227
You're making assumptions purely on speculation of the order of his greentext. He never implied anywhere in that post that there was any causality between them.
>>72528284
yet you ave a 2.7?
will you get an internship?
I've always wanted to be a marine biologist, and working in an aquarium would be a dream job
how fucked am i?
>>72522749
The STEM meme. Lol. I'm a licensed engineer in new York long island making 46 an hour starting as a union oiler. I'm 21. What meme are we referring to? The one where I can pay my 12 thousand student loans in under a year or the one where my gun collection has grown to 50 plus beautiful guns in the past months.
>>72528269
Some people have more fun alone. I socialize a lot at work and when I go out on weekends, but I see nothing wrong with spending most weeknights alone. Not everyone needs constant human interaction to feel fulfilled in life.
>>72522749
>started working at 14
>left home on my 18th
>been working ever since
>started my own business at 19
>22 now
>actual international companies are busting my fucking ass with purchase offers
>every single week i see a bigger number than the week before
>considering opening up a rocketry company here in australia
>life's good
>meanwhile people are just getting out of university with shitty degrees and thousands in debt with no jobs
>>72522749
Funny how the mods delete the thread where we were discussing how flags have ruined /pol/. But not this bullshit, amazing!
>>72527884
Most of my top students (comp sci) aren't geniuses, they just work harder than you. They have jobs, some have a wife, kids, a mortgage and other responsibilities...
If you can't handle a pizza delivery job while going to school, quit. You could even try and find a job on campus.
>>72528369
>muh internship
get a fucking job you deluded insufferable miillenial
>>72528416
The meme is you getting a worthwhile engineering degree with only 12k in loans. Saw that and stopped reading.
>>72528369
I get A's in the programming classes my man, I just don't have time to study for, you know, the four other classes im taking that are only tangentially related to my major. Im also good at math and have been offered plenty of work as a calc tutor
>>72528569
This. Why do people constantly say "lol no internship you're fucked". When I graduated, NONE of the jobs I applied for required an internship as part of your experience. When will the meme end?
>>72528355
Man you're dumb.
If that were the case, he didn't need to mention the pizza delivery job at all to get his point across.
He later goes on to complain about how the top students in his program don't work, here:
>>72527884
>>72528595
Went to a SUNY school, had good SAT scores and got a division one rowing scholarship.didn't even have a good gpa. Mechanical engineering with sea time. 3rd engineers license reefer ticket and steam license means anywhere and anyone will hire me and my year and a half is sea time.
>>72528527
>>72528527
>>72528527
>>72528527
>>72528527
>just quit
>just get an on campus job
I had an on campus webdev job faggot, 9 an hour 12 hours a week WILL STARVE ME TO DEATH. I HAVE RENT TO PAY
>>72528478
>A
>FUCKING
>LEAF
>>72522749
More like fell for the college meme. You see, college doesn't offer the kind of insights that the real world does, and those are what employers are interested in.
>>72523296
What? for example in my case what kind of medical specialty has you boxed in a cubicle ? oh wait you think all STEM is programming.
>>72528926
>Le
>Fresh
>from
xD
>>72528885
chill the fuck out you fucking sperg
>>72522749
For the Es reading,
The thing people are doing wrong is that they have no hands on experience when coming out af a university with engineering degree.
First you wanna do a trade school, then obtain an engineering degree.
If you can find an apprenticeship and do ini at night your golden.
>mfw ill be chief of system controls on our commercial side at the HVAC company I work for in a few more years.
>mid 20s
>>72528633
>he doesnt take 4 cs classes per semester
>>72528478
>I'd rather have rampant shitposting because everyone is claiming to be from countries they're not
>this is better
Kys le weed man, you're just mad you're from a literal meme country.
>>72528699
It literally can't hurt at all and I'm making ~30/hr for my internship. They pay for my housing too.
>>72528569
Im @ my campus job right now, lmao. It's a paid internship too lmao.
>>72524399
Yeah cuz everyone can be rich right? Waste 4 years for a decent desk job or waste more time AND put in effort for what? A bigger house and a nicer car? WOWZERS glad i wasted my limited life so i can live the "good" life which consists of the same shit but with more expensive crap
>>72529281
That wasn't the point. Internships are GREAT experience and resume builders, but people saying they're required to get a job don't know anything about the job market.
>Tfw I live with my parents close to university and don't have to worry about rent or food
I'm probably never going to get laid but at least my GPA is decent.
>>72523296
As opposed to willingly agreeing to a huge fucking debt burden, long boring classes and test after test after test, just so you can go work for someone smarter than you?
The problem with STEM-fags isn't that you think you're smarter, it's that in your ultra autism, you never stopped to ask yourself how much of your life you're going to burn away to achieve your dream job, which ultimately leaves you bored, in debt and middle aged before you're close to being free again.
By that time, you're married, burdened with a wife that stopped giving you blowjobs and now have 4 screaming brat kids who hate your guts, because you spend all day at work trying to supply your whore coal burning wife with her dream life, which includes fucking black bucks while you're at work counting your legos, like a good little autistic goy.
There is no self reward for autist STEM nerds. The reward for you idiots is the obsessive compulsive lifetime work, while your body withers away and you never learn more about yourself or the world.
You just keep stacking those legos, cuck boy. Me and my pals will be pleasing your skinnyfat wife, while your brats are at school.
>>72529557
true, I do know nothing about the job market.
>>72529635
What a post
>>72529635
Dafuq are you even trying to say here, nigger? So, I should choose liberal arts because it somehow lets me "learn about myself and the world" by fucking other people's wives?
You're autistic, kiddo.
>>>/b/
>I fell for the trade degree
>can't even have fun in life since piss test are random
I don't know how but Jews are behind piss test
>>72529635
Lol my side work almost rivals my salary.
And its called paint vacations you neet.
It think I'm going to have a month long stay in Europe here soon and stay in nothing but 4 star and above.
>>72522749
If I didn't had a lot of research experience during my undergraduate years, do I still have a good chance of getting into good research while I am doing my masters?
>>72529200
> be you
> first day on job, if you somehow make it through the interview process
> have to work with all these brain dead retards
> gets assigned work
> starts complaining about all sorts of shit, manager is a retard etc.
> brain dead retards work hard and admit mistakes and learn from it
> get's shit review, braid dead retards get good reviews
> b-b-but i graduated in 3 years with a 4.0 gpa, im a genius, you are all idiots
> fired
> who needs you idiots anyway
> repeat at next job if you are able to make it through the interview process
>>72529805
>no u r
Where did I imply getting ANOTHER useless degree and more debt was a good idea?
Did you misplace your stapler, faggot?
>>72529893
*PAID
>>72529911
lol
>>72529947
>don't get a degree
>forced into either a shitty trade or a wagecuck job
>live in a low-tier apartment
>b-but I know myself and see the world!!!
Consider suicide.
>>72529635
NEEThood Rising:The post
I'll take a large number 6 with sprite OP
>>72522749
DELETE THIS
>>72529893
>month long stay in eurocuck shithole
>spent 2 years accruing that paid time off
A month of your life, the majority of which you will wish you were still at work stacking legos.
I love you spergs. You guys are the gears that turn and turn and turn, keeping our society working.
But you break and get replaced by a cheaper gear from India, worth half as much and half the quality, if not less.
That's what your life is. You're a gear in the machine, without a place or function outside of the machine.
Guess who that machine works for, cucky?
>>72529911
>be you
>don't enterprise outside of tour trade
Did you really want to do this or did you just not have the effort and will.
>>72530390
Umm you think I don't enterprise outside the company as well from people I meet at the bar?
Go play some Vidya neat
>>72530390
>this is what NEETcucks actually believe
Enjoy your homelessness once mommy dies, kiddo.
>>72530261
I have a degree, but it didn't cost me anything.
I have a wealthy girlfriend so I don't pay for fucking shit, including my car or my house.
I'm leaving for Iceland next month. Going to camp out under the stars and see the aurora and shit.
Cost to me? $0
The reality is that STEM fags are unattractive obsessive compulsive retards who dream that a high paying career will get them pussy and power.
The result is that you work yourself to death, find yourself lucky to get any poon because money won't make you attractive, and all your money ends up in the government's hand anyways.
Your life in a nutshell.
>>72530693
>t. a basement dwelling neet who thinks his waifu and Chinese cartoons are real life experiences
>>72529824
>can't have fun without recreational drugs
Kill yourself, degenerate.
>>72530868
Whatever keeps you on the hamster wheel, cuckboi.
I'll be living life, enjoying the world and not killing myself.
Mommy and daddy got me prepaid and i go to a cheap state school. Gunna make muh STEM bucks in less than a year working a comfy finance programming gig. No debt neets
>>72523404
>oversaturation
kek
>>72531028
>what is outsourcing
>what are half a billion Indians in competition for your job
LMAOing @ ur life
>>72529635
I see, a prime victim of cultural marxism right there.
Glad I don´t live in a shithole like the US where you can get several 100k in debt for going to uni. topkek.
>>72530983
Whatever makes you feel better about having no job/skills, and soon to be homelessness loser.
>>72524399
Underrated.
>>72531251
>STEM
>no job/skills
are you retarded?
>>72530693
>be a literal manchild sucking at the titty of your girlfriend
Damn, son, you sound like a loser.
You know what women like more than that?
Handsome guys with huge muscles, tons of money, supportive families and great jobs.
Shit, I get women lining up to cheat on their boyfriends. Last one was a millionaire. You're low hanging fruit pallo and I'm not even the biggest threat. Once one of my fellow cuckmasters finds your girl you're out on the street. Enjoy Iceland tho lmao
>>72530693
>I got really lucky so STEMfags are dumb!
Wow look at the mental power we're dealing with here.
>>72531251
I own multiple homes, stupid nigger.
I'll never be homeless.
>>72531182
>flag
As expected of a robot.
>>72530693
>implying your gf won't leave your pathetic ass
>>72531130
>outsourcing
>stem
Yes, curryniggers dominate all of the thousands of stem related jobs.
Go back to making shitty coffee you imbecile.
>>72531316
>you
>reading comprehension
He is a NEET.
Stem is useless. It really is a meme.
Go into finance, accounting, if you want a good stable job
>>72527197
communications, since all the athletes are communications majors it must the way to go
>>72531354
Your mom's basement and attic aren't "multiple homes", laddie.
>>72530926
I am very degenerate fucked a Milf last night raw and she pissed all over me
>>72531518
Low paying desk work with automation nipping on its heels
>>72531354
>he lies to strangers on the internet
>I go into CS at an out-of-state college
>get a programming job at that college
>relaxing, fun, and interesting.
>job pays all expenses: zero debt
>recruiters pay to line up to have a chance to suck my dick
>get a paid internship from college recruiters
>get a job offer before I even graduate
>6 figures
Yep... I sure fell for that stem meme. darn.
>>72522749
>he has a job
>>72530693
If any of that is true your girlfriend is totally cheating on you. BTW I want in at STEM because I simply enjoy programming, it happens.
I actually have two degrees. Coming out of network engineering I could have been a sysadmin and would have been applying for jobs that earn as much as the jobs I'm applying for now 4 years ago.
I didn't because fuck staring at a cisco or juniper CLI until I die. Fuck. No.
So I enrolled at computer engineering because money isn't why I'm applying for STEM jobs. If a bitch is a gold digger I don't want her, what I want is to excel at what I'm good at until I'm so old I'm clearly no longer good at it. If I feel I've taught my trade, I'd retire then.
You just don't understand the guy who was simply meant to be a programmer because he's shit at everything else.
>>72524399
Go to med or law school instead.
>getting my final marks from my diploma program back on thursday
>writing a thorough cover letter for technologist positions between now and then to attach to my wicked resume
>chillin' like a villain before i start applying for jobs left right and center
>have options to move around if i need to
>gonna fix up some bits of my family's domicile in the downtime when i'm not playing vidya
stem is reasonably comfy.
i hope to get an interview reasonably quickly despite the local economy, though.
>>7253173
Even simple accounting is hard to automate. It's become low skill because the programs now make it easy to use but someone still needs to do it.
>>72522749
>>72524399
>>72524431
If you're an engineer, shouldn't you be able to make anything that you put your mind to?
Are most just not creative enough to make something that people will want?
>>72523404
>getting a recreational education
>>72523404
>and instead encouraged me to pursue a degree I was interested in.
Maybe some of us actually like STEM because we're interested in the sciences or mathematical fields.
>two year IT degree from respected local college
>no internship or job offers during school
>still getting job offers before graduation
>will easily be making 50k in two more years
Feels fucking amazing. I don't know why I didn't do this earlier.
>>72529467
filthy richfags don't even work and pretty much leech off of everyone they hire to do work for them, STEM fags are literal tax slaves that work the most out of probably anyone, that's the sad part. STEMfags throughout their lives will likely dump their slightly higher income than minimum wage fags into placebo shit like nicer cars, boats, "vacations", slightly larger yet exponentially more expensive homes.
If a STEMfag wanted to actually obtain something that really mattered like a company share, large tract of land, big real estate, a large business, they would never be able to get enough money because you'd need a lifetime of money for just one and is precisely the reason richfags get richer and there's a huge gap between white collar workers and the super rich.
TLDR STEMfagging isn't worth it like it used to be
>>72533254
Or social sciences like anthropology, economics, psychology, and sociology
http://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2012/nsf12599/nsf12599.htm#appendix
>>72523404
Top kek.
Must suck to live in a dieing part of America.
My state is seeing a massive tech boom due to low cost of property and low taxes.
In the last two years Facebook has built 3 datacenter here, and Microsoft just finished their second.
Is Geology any good?
>>72534016
I'll just start my own IT company in a few years, that or set up a server and host porn and click bait and retire early while still making bank.
>>72534103
Depends on the oil market
> finished a one year hvac course at local community college
> before starting I was unemployed and living with my parents
> 27 years old
> fast forward three years later
> tfw I make 80k a year driving around a van/truck in Santa Cruz fixing ACs and refrigerators
> tfw my friend who was always an overachiever and I got jelly of a few times growing up fell for the biology meme and after graduating 4 years ago still works as a waiter.
>>72534103
It rocks ;-)
Most likely too many people with degrees already
Poor OP got his gf stolen by STEM chad
But hey cmon guys atleast he can make himself feel good by lying to strangers on the 4chans
>>72530261
>Ignore college
>Get EMT cert through local fire district
>Get job with county ambulance, complete with benefits and state pension, great PTO
>Buy house on acreage with spectacular view, 10k in renovations and its great
>Invest in dividend and growth stocks instead of paying debt on shit degree
>promote to shift supervisor and make twice as much as people I know with BA degrees
Gosh life is awful I sure wish I had gone to a four year university and worked 9-5 every single day.
>shitty trades
I dont know an HVAC guy or electrician who isnt making damn good money.
>>72522749
Lulz, did you go for a compsci degree and ended up jobless?
STEM degrees can open up a bunch of well-paid careers, unless you're too stupid to spot them. I'm the last few months of my physics PhD, got a nice post-doc gig at at international institution lined up (tax-free income!). Even if I didn't have that - the usual mailing list shows something like 5-10 relevant vacancies in my field. Sure, you'll damned to sit in front of a PC for the rest of your professional career, but unemployment or financial trouble is basically irrelevant, as there are jobs in this field all over the globe. And institutions still have a hard time getting applicants.
Easy jobs are there for the taking, and you don't need to be a genius to spot those careers.
My basic message is: if you've done a STEM MSc/PhD and can't find a well-paid job - you fucked up royally and have no one to blame but yourself.
