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>Trump rising support,
>AfD rising support
>FN rising support
>Hofel wins in Austria
>Netherlands voted out of EU deal with Ukraine
>Brexit may happen

What does this mean in a global context? Is the right going to be the new left?
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>>72517748
>what does it mean
That the fire rises,brother!
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>>72517748
>Is the right going to be the new left?
No, there's no feel good politics so women won't vote for it.
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>>72517748
The right will never be as awful as the left got.
But yes, people are going more right after all the stuff thats been going on.
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>>72517903
That being said, don't think the writing hasn't been on the wall for a long time that there would at some point be a massive right swing. So really what you want to do is think ahead a couple of steps about how it will be used against us.
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It means people gain more time through machines and instead of planting flowers some start to seek their old status through blame shifting.
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>>72517748
The hate for the Muslims is rising
And that's what the jews want.
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>>72518076
But why.
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>>72518191
Divide and conquer in the short term.

I find it increasingly difficult to not conclude that the folks at the helm are trying to bring about their vision of end times prophesies and things like that. Whatever it is, it's easy to see that the people going blindly headlong into this view it like a religious necessity.
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>>72517989
The only way it can be used against us is with a more totalitarian state. Both sides push for this, less so the right but they still push for it.
Now with the world growing more right people also need to become more libertarian, return the power to the states in America, don't trust big government.
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>>72518363
I have long been of the general opinion that rebalancing powers back toward states rights is going to be an important factor of not winding up with the worst of both worlds.
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>>72517748
It means the leftist spell is broken, mostly due to the end of the MSM's monopoly on distribution of information and the subsequent collapse of their credibility as they caught repeatedly sweeping facts under the rug, distorting them, refusing to investigate politically inconvenient leads and spreading propaganda.

If this process is carried to its logical conclusion by a disgruntled populace, modern progressive leftism will be wiped out as a political force. They cannot compete in a free-for-all of ideas without having a monopoly on filtering and shaping public discourse.
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>>72518820
You really like taking pictures of your cat's crotch, huh?
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>>72518871
What else is he going to take pictures of?
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>>72518871
His photoshoot, his rules.
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>>72518914
I'm sure there are plenty of weird things in Israel to take pictures of.
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>>72518820

And how will you kikes destroy this little sliver of hope this time?
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>>72518820
CatStatJew is now posting on /pol/
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>>72517748
It's simple
The power of memes, and truth is overcoming guilt and sophistry
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>>72517748
It means that the pendulum is swinging the other way. Human history is cyclical because the more out of equilibrium the actions of its ruling classes the more of a reaction there is to it. We'll have a period of about 25 years of the right wing ruling the roost, and then it will swing back.
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>>72517748
No it means a return to nationalism and away from globalism.
It also means the NWO is failing, probably because the factions within it are really bad at compromise
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>>72519331
Not that simple. Over the course of history, certain ideas and policies fail so spectacularly that they end up being effectively blacklisted for far longer periods of time, if not forever.

This current iteration of leftism just might be one of these.
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>>72519465
We can only hope.
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>>72519559
We can more than hope. In a way, it's our decision to make.
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>>72517866
mfw the left is in full damage control because Milo's US Campus tour videos are reaching a huge fucking audience and people are waking up to the leftist brainwashing on american campuses

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/04/28/breitbartcom-becoming-media-arm-alt-right#.VyOJP8BTFjs.twitter
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I fucking hope so man.

I hope soon we can argue about what countries have the best women and sports and beaches again, instead of what countries willingly accept the most Islamic radicalists
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>>72519465
Let's hope so
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>>72519613
Well, obviously. Let's just do the best we can.
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If right wins it will be just as bad as the left so nothing will change.
You can't kill a criminal because it brings you on the same level, it's the same with politics.
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>>72519814
I also want to randomly point out, the most depressing banter I have ever read on here was between two different European countries recently.

One was boasting to the other how they had taken in significantly less Syrian refugees in the past year than the other country.

Very disappointing....
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>>72519814
>what countries have the best women and sports and beaches again

Eesti

>>72519814
>instead of what countries willingly accept the most Islamic radicalists

Definitely not Eesti!
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>>72519465
Memories are pretty short, all it needs is a couple of generations to turn the tide back, the first to teach it, the second to enact it.
But yep, the complete failure of natsocs means i dont think the batshit insane racial anarchism will ever return, but ethno nationalism will have its day again.
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>>72517748
It means that we're still cucked enough to rely on democracy to get things fixed.
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>>72517875
Women should be disenfranchised
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>>72517748
great, just wonderful. i was beginnign to get really comfy about being a fringe hipster supporter of the republican and conservative party.

but now its going to be popular again, and that can only mean one thing

eventually we'll become a target
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>>72518363
>snakefags
>2012 + 4
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>>72519011
more pics pls
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>>72517875
>No, there's no feel good politics so women won't vote for it.

neither do the meek metrosexual "men". It is only some middle aged middle class guys that vote for AfD, and those never can get a majority anywhere
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But I don't get it, if knew the Jews were behind this, why did they lose control, what are they doing just sitting back and watching the world implode? Doesn't this mean it effects this too? What is their Ultimate plan?
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>>72521633
I think it's a kind of "divide and conquer" tactics.
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>>72521633
the coming of the Messiah (Armageddon)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKOQOXGE3ds
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>>72517903
that's because we wont see religious conservatism or neoconservatism rise, but libertarianism and conservatarianism
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>>72517748
We live in a pre world war world.

Nations divided among conflict lines (Saudi USA vs Iran Russia), economic problems and a rise of radical positions on both sides.

Next to the stuff you described there is also the protesters in France, Podemos in Greece and Antifas and Anti-Trumps become more and more aggressive. Let's see what will happen on the first of may.
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>>72519011

That is a very comfy looking jewcat. Always like when they are so comfy and happy they'll sleep on their back because they know nothing'll threaten them.
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>>72522269
>Let's see what will happen on the first of may.

???
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>>72520889
>not only allowing, but WANTING to be cucked by the state
>calls others a cuck
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>>72522346
It's the next Shemita meme. But also International Communism day, and "some people" have a numbers fixation, like for instance Nancy Reagan, so you never know with these people.
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>>72518076
Muslims brought it all on themselves, they could have come here and behaved like decent people, but no, we get the mass abuse of our welfare and women instead, and all the other shit things islamic "culture" has brought the West. Maybe the Jews wanted it that way, but the Muslims are eager to play their parts well.
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>>72522346
Yea I don't get it either
Japan please explain
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>>72518820
If by modern leftism you mean postmodern bullshit then I agree.

We need modernist, scientific, humanistic, radical, democratic leftism. Which should not be afraid to use violence against those who oppose its ideals.

A leftism that fights Islamists and fascists. A leftism that once again praises rationality.
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>>72520889
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>EU
>caring about the will of the people
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>>72522537
>A leftism that once again praises rationality.

irrationalism never was rational and never can be.
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>>72522537

>We need modernist, scientific, humanistic, radical, democratic leftism. Which should not be afraid to use violence against those who oppose its ideals.

No we don't. We need traditionalist fascism that isn't afraid to use violence against those who oppose its ideals
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>>72522346
>>72522498

International workers day. Many communists and some fascists will be on the streets.

Will also be interesting to see what happens in France with Nuit debout.
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>>72520889
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>>72522762
Read Otto Neurath or Bertrand Russell to start with. Maybe you are not beyond saving
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>>72522537
>leftism
>rationality
No such thing. Leftism is and always has been based on intentions and feelings, not results and rational thought.

The greatest cancer of humanity of recent centuries, leftism.
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>>72517994
Centuries of progress
We work more and more for less and less

Nice logic 1/10
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>>72523138
Fascism is based on feeling and thought, leftism on rationality.

Analytic philosophers and scientists like Neurath, Russell and Einstein were leftist.

Marx considered his works to be theorie stat could be proven wrong. Leftism emerged out of the philosophies of enlightenment and Renaissance, which revolutionized the primat of rationality and science.

Fascism had is roots in relativism (Sorell and Nietzsche). Actually read some Mussolini or hitler. They oppose rationality and truth and believe only in will and in "creating your own truth".

Fascists in fact are similar to postmodern "liberal" leftists.
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>>72518076

Jesus fucking Christ....

every other day the Jews are blamed for allowing muslims to immigrate, now you say they are behind the hatred of the muslims

get your shit together goy
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>>72523527
meant fascism is based on feeling and intention.
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>>72523051
>Otto Neurath
trying to creata a moneyless economy in a Bolshevik state, that is as irrationalist as it can get
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>>72519712
>that pepe in the article
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The jew and gobalist may be fucked
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>>72517748
Hope for our salvation.
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The pendulum swings back and forth, swinging a little further with each iteration, until eventually the push back is so great that goes flying off of its pivot. This usually happens after one particular ideology hits an absurd extreme, causing the reaction the other way to push things beyond their limits. The French Revolution was preceded just a generation before by a period of unprecedented power in the hands of a monarch, the rise of fascism in Europe occurred immediately after a period of unprecedented liberalism, the hippy movement in the States arose following over a decade of some of the strongest conservative dominance in the history of the country, and so on.

Right now, the left went way too far, after the right went to some pretty ridiculous extremes itself in the early-mid 00's. Now the right's surging, and the pressure may be great enough that things break again.
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>>72517875
>women won't vote for it
Married women do (provided their husbands do aswell) but sadly theyre becoming a rarity
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>>72524174
Neurath was not Bolshevik/Stalinist.

Regardless of the scientific disputes regarding the problem of economic calculation raised by Mises it cannot be argued that Neurath was irrationalistic.

In fact, his philosophy of science can be seen as one of the most radical approaches to be as rational as possible. It is also a fact that for him, just like James Frazer, leftism was linked to, and justified, by rationality and science.

Hitler and Mussolini did not belief in rationality nor the objectivity of science.
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>>72518076
I'd say muslims are doing a very good job on their own to generate hate
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>>72524818
The right is what caused 9/11, the Iraq wars, the economic collapse of 2008 and current qualms in the Middle East, not to mention the horrible wage gap.

Why do you support this? Are you people stupid?

You couldn't even provide a rational, sourced explanation if you tried because you know it's false. You'll just call this post cucked or something and fail to provide evidence.

The Right Wing wants to see people enslaved, paid poorly, the world fall to its knees and the entire country riddled with poverty and war.

Shame on all of you.
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>>72526445
>not to mention the horrible wage gap
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>>72526445
your "right" is actually extremely left. the republican party is literally bolshevism
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>>72526589
Bush was in power when the economic and war shit storm started and you know that.
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>>72519465
>policies... blacklisted for far longer periods of time
>IF NOT FOREVER
>This current iteration of leftism just might be one of these.

Yid, you are our greatest ally after all.
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>>72525005
>Neurath was not Bolshevik/Stalinist.

he was an advisor for the Bavarian Bolshevist republic and jailed for 18 month for that before Austria could bail him out.

>In fact, his philosophy of science can be seen as one of the most radical approaches to be as rational as possible. It is also a fact that for him, just like James Frazer, leftism was linked to, and justified, by rationality and science.

philosophy is always irrationalistic, only natural science is rational.

>Hitler and Mussolini did not belief in rationality nor the objectivity of science.

Undisputed, bourgeois idealism is irrationalism
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France shutting down mosques. Greece & Germany arrest antifa.

>>happening
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>>72517903
Which means more stupids will hijack the right and cry about Will Ferrel making fun of Ronald Reagan.
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>>72526708
>Bush was in power when the economic and war shit storm started and you know that.

what me means is what is labeled as right today actually is no real right.
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>>72519465
My thoughts exactly. The disgust with the violent antifa peewees will be remembered for at least a generation or two.
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>>72526589
Nobody cares about political parties right now. We care about the concrete issues at hand. Muslim invasions affect all of us.

There is no room for political ideals while we are pressed to find a swift course of action.

>>build wall
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>>72517748
The police guard on the right looks oddly feminine.
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We need to shut it down immediately!
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>>72520054
Fuck that, if Curious George and his band of misfits tries to break in and steal my 'nanners you can bet he's gonna leave full of hollowpoints.
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>>72526756
You obviously don't understand science nor philosophy. And clearly you haven't read any work of the Vienna circle.

Frege invented modern logic and contributed to the foundations of mathematics.

Carnap and Popper layd the definitions that all modern scientists operate on. Members of the Vienna circle where mathematicians, logicians and physicists as well as philosophers.

The Räterepublik was anti stalinist and not bolshevik. In fact many anarchists were part of it, like Erich Muhsam.
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>>72517748
Yes. And it's going to suck when we have to leave all these dank memes behind and flop left to balance this mess out in another 10 years.
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>>72527208
Hey, stupid fuck.

Yes, Mudslimes are a problem.

But did you forget about our shit economy and shit health care system messiah Obama put in place?
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>>72522537
>Which should not be afraid to use violence against those who oppose its ideals.

Good luck enraging people to the point where they become far more violent that those sheltered leftists are comfortable with
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>>72521633
They don't buying int wild conspiracies is childish

The news have their goals and they push their goals it doesn't make them correct, infallible, or successful

The world is just competing agendas and people rafting to what happens

There is no plan
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>>72524818
>>72519359
>>72518820

what if this was Merkels plan to begin with?

like Yuri said: instead of blocking a punch let it go right through you
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>>72528417
No sheltered leftists. Weapons to the people, weapons for women. A Peoples militia of a mass movement, like proposed by Rosa Luxemburg.

If the fascists or capitalists become violent, they will meet violence like they have not seen before.
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>>72528645
Nah I think Merkel wanted to do something to gain sympathy and have some legacy (people always said she is boring and does nothing) but then backpedaled due to shitstorm from right wing people from her votership and party.
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>>72524842
>Married women do (provided their husbands do aswell) but sadly theyre becoming a rarity

That's primarily due to the destruction of the nuclear family. I'd also say it's partly why things went to vast extremes so far at this point.
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>>72517748
>mfw lefties don't realize that every time they beat up a right-wing supporter they look like freedom hating bad guys and the popularity of the right increases

Leftists are fucking retarded
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The right wing is responsible for the economic crash in 2008, the wars and the awful job situation. Why you people won't examine the facts is beyond me.
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>>72529183
No they don't.

Tolerance is bullshit. True Humanism is not only a shield that protects but also a sword that cuts.

Talk to actual people. No one gives a shit if Nazis get beaten up. Well some people might actually support it. Only other nazis cry about it.

Go to a random pub or bus station in a city near you and scream how you love hitler and hate niggers. You will get beaten up.
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>>72529260
>The right wing is responsible for the economic crash in 2008, the wars and the awful job situation. Why you people won't examine the facts is beyond me.

No Bill Clinton was the one who signed Nafta and assault weapons ban and telecommunications act. HW did Iraq. GW did Iraq 2.0 and Afghanistan.
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>>72517748
Leftists played too hard with their anti-white rhetoric and actually tried to implement it because they thought they were "winning". Now the pendulum is swinging the other way.

Make no mistake about it though. These SJW types? Yeah, they won't surrender their power now that they've experienced it. They'll get increasingly violent the more conservatives get elected, and it'll take bullets to calm them, just like in the 60s.
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>>72518076
That's bullshit. Muslims have always been terrible, Europe just forgot. Simple as that. Colonialism instilled a very literal (and accurate) sense of superiority to the continent over the Muslim horde, and for all intents and purposes there was nothing the Muslims could do to stop Europeans for a time. The Ottomans fragmented, the British controlled most of the world's trade bypassing the old land routes, the Barbary pirates got blown the fuck up, etc. etc.

As a consequence of this actual superiority, your 1400 year old enemy became secondary and forgotten. It's collective continent-wide amnesia.

This is why leftists are so fucking stupid when it comes to the subject of Islam. They equate Muslims to niggers working on an American sugar farm. They don't realize Muslims made abducting and raping white children a sport. They don't even realize the Crusades was a direct response to Muslim aggression. They've totally forgotten that whole segment of history, and in its place is a Jewish Marxist interpretation of events, where Europeans are always evil and colonialism harmed the poor precious brown people in the Middle East.

So they're flooding your countries with Muslims to "make amends" for some non-existent historical slight, and the Jews are happy to help them, as it will destroy Christianity, which they've long sought to extinguish.
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>>72529539
Yes they do

>Tolerance is bullshit.
This is why you cucks keep loosing votes
Tell that to anyone irl and people will just call you a fascist

>le nazis meme
Get the fuck out of here
Nazis haven't been a real political force in 70 years, calling your opponents literally Hitler only makes you look like a asshole

>Go to a random pub or bus station in a city near you and scream how you love hitler and hate niggers.
You will not get beaten up, you will be ignored, that's what happens to crazy people
Maybe if you are loubd enough people will tell you to shut up

>love hitler and hate niggers
Nobody in the right wing says that you deluded leftist moron
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>>72517748
We live in interesting times, bongbro. It means that there is going to be change, and it will be unpredictable at times. It means that there will be plenty of risk involved, but also opportunity if you can recognize it.
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the right will not assume control through democratic means
the entire system is designed this way
revolution is the only realistic way out from the leftist vortex
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>>72518076
Regardless of what the Jews want, Muslims are inbred savages. There is no need for any propaganda to paint them in a bad light. They do that to themselves just fine.
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>>72517748
>What does this mean in a global context?
It might mean the end of globalization as we know it, or at least a slowdown.

It may also be increasing strides on the road to war if you look at how things have been going with relations with China and Russia.

Europe may have a civil war.

We just don't know. Exciting isn't it?
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>>72531467
I can frame it in a way so that most people would agree. For example: to ensure the freedom for all, those who threaten that freedom have to be hindered from doing so.

Difficult to say I hate niggers in a way most people would agree to.

Right wing people always deny there political position "I am not a homophobe/racist/nazi but ... "

Leftist people will just come out and say I am a anarchist/communist/socialist/Humanist.
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>>72519465
I hope you're correct. I don't really consider myself a Trump supporter, but what the leftist fucks are doing when they protest him pisses me right the fuck off. I can deal with people having different opinions. I can deal with people challenging my opinions. They can't, and they're reacting violently, and that's only one aspect of how fucked up they are. They don't want sunlight because they're the fucking cockroaches that would scatter.
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>>72532057
>we must restrict freedom to protect freedom
You are just a hypocritical fascist
You might as well just say "you are free, but only as long as you agree with me"

And rightwingers are just as open as leftists about their political affiliation, they just happen to not be homophobic racist and Nazis
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>>72517748
None of these people will do what needs to be done and it's too late now,
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>>72532830
I love when people use that Franklin quote thinking it's full of wisdom when in fact every government that has ever been has restricted liberties to some extent.

Arm chair revolutionaries always make me laugh.

If you want freedom, you have to fight for it, might makes right after all.
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>>72524190
mfw frog is the new elephant
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>>72533085
>every government that has ever been has restricted liberties to some extent.
Not essentially liberties

There is a difference between a normal law and demanding the government ban "offensive" speech because your precious lefty feelings are hurt

>might makes right
Maybe in the middle ages, but we live in a society of laws
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>>72530059
>Bill Clinton was the one who signed Nafta and assault weapons ban and telecommunications act

How does this effect the economy in 2008? Checkmate.
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>>72519712
god I hate that smug bitch
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>>72533613
>we live in a society of laws
Yes but do you know what I mean by might makes right? It means that if something can be taken by force, it will be taken by force, regardless of what people whining about liberty and law think. If you can't defend yourself, your liberties will be taken from you.

Such has it been since antiquity.
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>>72522269
>pre world war world
>as long as nuclear weapons are a thing

I don't think so.
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>>72534006
That's why laws exist, if you take something by force, it will be taken back and you will face legal consequences

And unless it is the state trying to take your rights, might makes right is no longer the rule
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>>72526445
You took your time with this bait, very well done. 8.5/10
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>>72519712
>Southern Poverty Law Center
Get these kikes out my South!
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>>72534515
No i'm actually talking revolution.

If you have the might to take something and change society, you set the stage and you write the rules.

Do you get it now?

Throughout history people who haven't liked how the table was set have flipped the table.
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>>72534632
Can't even explain yourself, can you? Exactly, because you know I'm right. You haven't provided any evidence to sway my claims.

In other words, you're wrong.
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>>72523527

But leftism doesn't work. How's that for rational?
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