makes you wonder
>>72448356
Rape capital of the world.
>>72448356
Remove kebab
It's more people working. Post the crime rate.
>>72448356
Can we have the same for France ?
>>72448356
Money is the most important thing is your life.
Jew detected.
>>72448356
Economic growth worldwide boosting their economy. Notice how it begins to dip around the time of the Greek economic shit show. Its not related to immigration and your logic is silly.
Globalism and immigration are capitalist policies? I never knew! Hrr durrr
Anticipation for HOI 4 and Stellaris driving up markets. Merely Superficial.
>>72448882
>Economic growth worldwide boosting their economy.
so why isn't it boosting other 3 economies?
we were in a global recession
>implying GDP is the best measure of the quality of a nation
One of the most overused and retarded strawmen in politics.
>>72448356
YOU REALLY THINK IMMIGRATION IS A POSITIVE THING FOR SWEDEN?
Well it's not, we're one the brank of financial ruin with a 8 times increase in crimes per capita in 25 years.
>>72448356
Are you brain dead?
Sweden is the only example of an immigration "success", and their trend in growth was already so fucking lucrative that it would take a cataclysmic fuck up to even remotely damage.
The other three examples you gave are of immigration fucking up the economy, just look at the fucking Norway GDP growth you god damned dolt.
When did you fuckers get so good at shit posting anyway?
>>72449221
>we're one the brank of financial ruin
all the financial indicators tell otherwise.
>increase in crimes per capita in 25 years
transition is always hard
>>72448993
If you compare Finland during Jan 2013 to Jan 2014 its a huge boost. None of those countries are economic juggernauts, so we aren't going to see huge growth such as in China. Its small, but small is relative, and in this case is significant.
>>72448356
fuck youuuuuuu
Go dieeeee
>>72448356
You do realize America has like 16 times the populations of these places. It's easy to feed a house of 3..but not 3,000.
>>72449344
Negative, we are taking National loans for the first time in decades.
Also non European immigrants in Sweden averages a net negative for the state for atleast 3 generations.
Sweden used to be the 4th richest country.
>Overall GDP goes up when population goes up.
Truly mystifying. I'm sure the rape victims are very happy that their government gets more tax dollars now.
>>72449344
>transition is always hard
The transition of a civilized country into a fucking pile of shit that follows Shari'ah law?
>>72449646
this is completely false (unless we're talking about like, medieval times or something)
10 years ago Denmark had a GDP per Capita almost 10k USD compared to Sweden. Today their GDP per Capita is merely 2k USD larger
>>72448356
Sweden on high alert for euro vision, because of terrorist attack >>72449442
>>72449442
>>72448356
GDP is a made up number. Trying to measure all economic activity in a country is going to be too error prone to actually draw conclusions. The data in those graphs is meaningless.
>>72449944
>people are kinda worried about bad things that might happen
wow, it's fucking nothing.
>>72448356
>It's okay that people are getting raped and killed as long as our economy doesn't go down!
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/makes%20you%20wonder/filename/%20scandinavian-gdp-growth.png/type/op/
Your shitposting really opened my eyes. I now #suckdickforKasich
Our economy is so fucked even immigrants can't fix it. Why is Finland even in that pic?
Of course it raises GDP, It's straight up population growth. But it also depresses wages because you are increasing the supply of labor more than you are increasing demand. Basically, the rich end up with a bigger slice of a bigger pie and the working class gets dragged to the gutters.
Not to mention the non-economic problems with mass immigration. like all the rape.
>>72448356
> not understanding basic economics
We're inflating a fucking bubble. Our GOP is rocketing because we are borrowing a shit ton of money to pay for the fucking desert people to rape our communities. Do you think we will be able to pay it back? No; because this investment was sour from the fucking start.
>>72448356
No shit, that's why mass immigration is being done.
It's not a sustainable method though.
It blows my mind that you'd look at the reason for immigration and think "oh, this is why immigration isn't bad!"
>>72448356
Oil in the North. Their economies have been growing since they discovered it.
GDP not measures security or how harmonious is a society.
>>72449162
This.
GDP has absolutely nothing to do with QoL.
>>72450757
wealthier the society, the more stable it is. as I said, changes this big will inevitably cause some friction, but even when looking at stats like >>72450405 posted, it's clear that crime rate will go down when these people settle in
>>72450844
>hard facts are bad
>muh feels are good
Jesus Christ, am I in dumblr
>>72448356
Nobody wants you in their country.
>what is stimulus spending.
You can do this without using refugees anon the problem is the Eternal Teuton will throw a hissy fit if you do it in more conventional ways.
>>72449851
Denmark never aimed for endless growth. It's not possible with limited land and resources.
We have low jobless rate (4.5%) and our finances are solid. No need to rape your country and bring in millions of immigrants in pursuit of growth targets if there's no need for them.
>>72451037
>hard facts are bad
Are you talking about yourself, since you ignored all crime facts because of some bullshit "transition" you invented.
>>72451037
> it's clear that crime rate will go down when these people settle in
Where are the hard facts that support this?
Or are you just talking from "muh feels" or rather out of your ass?
>>72451037
If your mother had sex with the remaining 5 people with whom she has not already had sex with in the shithole of a village you presumably live in - the GOP will go up due to everyone spending more money annually on HIV-medicine; hence GOP is no sound measurement of QoL.
>>72451037
Uh Oh OP looks like you are full of shit.
>>72448356
>GDP growth by importing tons of people and supporting them by tax money
>good
>>72451037
>it's clear that crime rate will go down when these people settle in
Yeah, the USA's African population has has 250 years to settle in and just look how our crime rate fell.
>>72451292
crime is always a marginal element in any society. Sweden's crime rate is sufficiently low that even a radical increase in their crime rates would still leave them in the top of the world's safest countries.
For example, even with all the immigrant population - homicide rates in Sweden are below those of Denmark, Norway and Finland. In fact, with it's 20% immigrant population (second generation immigrants counted toward total immigrant population), you are 500% more likely to be a homicide victim in the United States than in Sweden.
>>72451936
What in Gods cock is Finalnd importing more people for.
I would consider suicide or moving to Australia. Possibly invading Sweden for war brides as well.
>>72448356
OP is right, sweden is doing great financially
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/sweden/government-bond-yield
They got a bit of debt from 2012
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/sweden/government-debt-to-gdp
But they are borrowing it so cheap who cares
Have i fallen to the sweden will be a 3rd world by 2030 meme ?
>>72448356
Wow it's like GDP increases when rape does. Legalize rape! Legalize rape!
>>72448356
https://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&ctype=l&strail=false&bcs=d&nselm=h&met_y=ny_gdp_pcap_cd&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=region&idim=country:SWE:NOR:FIN:DNK&ifdim=region&tstart=767595600000&tend=1398747600000&hl=en&dl=en&ind=false
>>72448356
Because this growth was due to eastern europeans who came to the west to work not stay on welfare .This fucking leftist are showing results of policies taken 10-20 years ago.They fucking generalise immigration instead of just saying "EASTERN EUROPEAN IMMIGRATION IS GOOD"
>>72448356
They are trading short term economic gains for long term national destruction. Bringing in more people will obviously cause an immediate increase in real GDP. The problem is that it does not help GDP per capita, which better measures quality of life. Worse, bringing in uneducated people with zero intention of integrating destroys the culture and creates a fractious society. This is already seen in the "no go zones" which are no longer policed. Moreover, the GDP "growth" they bring is a result of increased government spending, usually deficit spending, on benefits. This is called the "broken windows fallacy".
http://ww.rrojasdatabank.info/HDRP_2010_40.pdf
>>72452921
Comparison chart in constant 2000 dollars
>>72451037
>wealthier the society, the more stable it is
Not true at all.
>>72452921
>The problem is that it does not help GDP per capita, which better measures quality of life.
Sweden's GDP per Capita is on the rise for the last 10 years and is catching up to Danish GDP per Capita which was almost 10k USD.
see >>72449851
the remainder of your post is a mixture of falsehoods, unverifiable claims and outright memery
>>72452921
>>72453114
And here is the unemployment rate in Sweden, which spiked just as the welfare immigrant crisis picked up steam. All of those extra people claiming benefits creates financial strain on the state.
Sweden is the best example as they have been much more accepting of immigrants than Finland, Norway, and Denmark.
>>72448356
GDP doesn't measure actual growth
At one point, it did.
But governments now play it around and twist it with the help of banks.
Right now the in-thing is to show how great immigrants are for the economy, even though every single study done examining the costs and benefits shows they've been a massive drain on welfare services and healthcare services and cost the country more money than they bring in from increased productivity.
and this is only going to progressively get worse as automation proceeds and fewer people are required for greater productivity. All these millions of foreigners are just an extra drain on the economic production of the robotic industries the country has. They don't actually help in any way, shape, or fashion at all.
The big reason why lots of immigrants are boosting GDP numbers is because debt is counted as GDP "growth", and these millions of foreigners come into the country with no pre-existing debt. That's absolutely fantastic for the bankster sharks who want to loan them money and snag more debt-slaves. The immigrants meanwhile, are too stupid to understand that they aren't actually being given free money, and go off spending tens of thousands of debt-dollars on frivolous bullshit.
We'll soon start seeing serious credit issues as the morons who loaned these immigrants money suddenly start realizing they're never getting that money back, ever.
Our current economic system is in its death throes and the people in charge are fleecing as much as they can before it all collapses.
>>72448356
Welcome to keynesian money inflation! Enjoy your recession.
>>72453255
You ignore hard facts and data because Feels.
India has a High GDP does that mean their life is better? no it doesn't.
>>72448356
Wow, more rape along with even richer companies doing everything they can to screw average citizens over to make more.
>>72453255
>the remainder of your post is a mixture of falsehoods, unverifiable claims and outright memery
It's maddening how hard you just block out and ignore everything that goes against what you're saying.
>>72453367
they have a high GDP but low GDP per Capita. Sweden has a high GDP that's on the rise but their GDP per Capita is comparably high and rising
>>72453255
Did you not see the pictures in >>72452921 and >>72453114 ? There has clearly been no long term rise in GDP per capita, real or nominal, over the past decade. That Denmark's real GDP per capita went DOWN doesn't make stagnant Swedish real GDP per capita something to celebrate.
>>72453299
Do you really think decent banks will really grant this shitskins free money?I mean in my country nowadays is fucking hard to get a credit.They triple check you for a small one,they check your health ,your records,your children's etc..i assume in the west is even harder to get one.
>>72450261
I will be leeching welfare as long as niggers keep coming in.
>>72448356
>economic growth is all that matters in a nation. You should throw away you entire history and culture just to maintain high growth.
I wonder who could be behind this post
>>72453475
My point wasn't to dispute you, but support you.
>>72451037
How much money do I have to pay your government to make it okay for me to rape and abuse you?
>>72453285
Forgot picture.
>>72453453
yeah they also have a negative interest rate as well while government spending is 50% of GDP what does that tell you? good idea to print money for free?
>>72453725
I know. Re-read what I wrote.
Look at this shit i would invade fucking Norway if i was a Swede.
>>72453631
Oy vey goy, don't you care about boosting the labor force to foster economic growth? The wealth will trickle down goy, we'll all be rich.
>>72453545
Absolutely it is.
A lot of money the banks do get comes straight from the government, who is a reliable source of income/fleecing. Think of all the welfare the immigrants receive. If you're on welfare, you can get a loan.
If you've just arrived, and aren't receiving any welfare yet, there's still plenty of banks interested and willing to loan you money because they know, sooner or later, you're going to get some kind of welfare income.
The government increases debt spending, national growth projections make it look like the economy is booming, foreigners get loans with no reliable income streams, and banks make out like bandits.
It all works until the inevitable problems start cropping up, like the government running out of money, the credit bubble finally bursting, the foreigners telling the banks to go fuck themselves and if they want their money back they can send their repomen into the no-go-zone sharia law areas to reclaim it, if they dare.
tl;dr Greedy shitheads sold the entire country down the river for some short term profits, and most of the population haven't realized it yet.
I'm not even sure if most of the bankers doing this realize they're setting up civil war scenarios in most of Europe and killing their own markets.
>>72448873
Money only matters when it's redistributed. Then utility is the devil and gets thrown out the window.
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>>72448554
That's not how cherrypicking works mate...
>>72448356
>implying a single refugee contributed to that.
>>72453985
Well and i thought the bubble already bursted....
>>72448356
Sweden is literally broke, their ministers are crying on TV daily about how they cant afford even 1 more refugee.
The Swedish people footed the bill for this, and it was nothing but theft, and genocide.
Under international law, the people responsible for this are supposed to be rounded up and executed, all the members of the party responsible for genocide, just as a Nazi party member would be.
Holy shit are they a fleecing their productive workers to pay for niggers or what.
>>72448984
t. Johan
>>72449337
Kek
> immigration
> Success
The situation with immigrants here is really bad.
>>72453740
I'd gladly accept 10k USD GDP per Capita growth in exchange for being what, 5%-6% more likely to be a victim of a crime (i.e. going from 0.05% chance of being a victim of a crime to having a 0.055% chance of being a victim of a crime)
>>72453828
40% to 60% is considered optimal for facilitating efficient economic growth. after 60% you get diminishing results. as long as they stay under 60% it's actually a boon to the economy.
>>72454380
>Sweden is literally broke
and yet all economic indicators show they're further from it than their neighboring countries.
>>72455135
Hence the quotes. Is that a thing in other languages? Using quote marks to show sarcasm?
>>72455287
>for being what, 5%-6% more likely to be a victim of a crime
Rape in Sweden has increased over 1000% you fucking shill.
>>72455287
Did you see this data it isn't healthy at all man >>72454488 they are raping peoples savings to keep spending afloat.
>>72455373
Yes it is, I just missed them.
>>72450195
>>72450195
EVERYONE LOOK AT THIS POST
YOU ALL HAVE BEEN JAPED
>>72455609
Yes, he's a shill. We all know this.
>>72455417
if other countries had as emancipated women as they are in Sweden and if other countries placed as much importance into woman's rights, you'd find their sexual offense stats would be comparable.
The fact that in other countries women and girls are discouraged and often systematically/institutionally prevented from reporting these crimes doesn't mean they don't exist, they're just covered up/ ignored.
If you want to talk about crime rates, let's talk about crime rates that can be 100% verified, i.e. something like homicide. In which case see >>72451936
>>72455774
And yet you are still posting in the thread justifying his shilling
>>72455881
>Implying I'm not just trying to bomb it
I hope you saged on that reply anon
>>72451253
It's the East Europeans who contribute to our GDP, the muslims are just a cancer draining from our welfare.
The Bosnian muslim shit just loves to take credit of other people's hardwork.
It's actually a trait among muslims, to steal credit from others.
They also like to claim muslims invented math when they stole that shit from India, and ancient China/ancient Greece were already far more advanced than them.
>>72448356
http://www.amid.dk/pub/papers/AMID_48-2006_Jan_Ekberg.pdf
>Immigration to the Welfare State.
>Is it a Burden or a Contribution?
>The Case of Sweden
This paper pretty much shows immigration is a net loss for Sweden.
sorry guys, gotta go. it's been fascinating hearing all your opinions on the matter
>>72455779
>let's talk about crime rates that can be 100% verified
So you want to talk about the increase in grenade attacks?
Pretty sure this is an infinite increase in grenade attacks. Because this was completely unheard of 30 years ago.
But hey, who cares about grenades exploding in your city 3 times a week if you have GDP growth!
>>72456062
>>72456129
>get's wrecked
>s-sorry guys I need to go
Beautiful.
>>72456319
nah mate, I really gotta get going, working 3rd shift and all.
hope French anon will be there next Friday when I post this again
