>Race? It is a feeling, not a reality. Ninety-five per cent, at least. Nothing will ever make me believe that biologically pure races can be shown to exist today.… National pride has no need of the delirium of race.
t. Benito Mussolini
Are you triggered /pol/?
>>72429981
Not even a little. Ask /pol/ to define what white is.
>>72429981
he was right 2bh
>>72429981
Of course an Italian would say that, because Italy is a false concept inhabited by a multitude of ethnic groups and populated mostly by mongrels.
>>72429981
I agree completely. It should not matter what color you are, but if you are proud of your nation that you live in. I could care less if you are black or white or mexican, but if you are proud of your country then I am proud of you.
>>72429981
> t.kike on a hook
If shown today's situation, he'd be more inclined to believe in the importance of biology.
It's both blood and belief to me desu. A vietnamese person can integrate well and be a productive, law-abiding member of our society, but deep down there will always be something different. If he has half and half kids and their kids become quarters and their kids become octas then it's assimilation.
The view on racial difference in the 30's and 40's would have been north germanic vs medditerenean europeans, not somalis in Sweden.
>>72429981
No.
Whether your identity is a construct or reality makes no difference to liberty.
Picture this;
10,000 blonde haired blue eyed people who call themselves 'aryans' colonize mars and form thier own property, (actual) social contract etc.
They value highest survival and liberty.
Explain why they should accept the above nig nog into thier society and ultimately explain why they should be forced with violence to submit to others, try not to forget about the presupposition of argumentation .
Goodnight sweet OP
>>72429981
Sour grapes from a shitskin Italian. White people had to defend his own country after Italians got completely destroyed.
>>72430403
The only sour one here is you.
>>72430085
>amerimutt calling others mongrels
lmao
>>72429981
That is why Fascism > Nazism.
Nazis are just bastardized mongrels.
>>72430291
Regarding race as in "white", "black" etc he is basically right. Literally meme words for insecure americans who are constantly surrounded by niggers and spics and need to have a word to identify their kin.
Now on the other hand back then they didn't know as much as we do nowadays about genetics, so his words aren't necessarily up to date.
>>72430109
Glad to know there's people like you on /pol/ nigger
The true measure of a person comes down to the way they utilize their intellect. The smartest man can choose to accommodate to a lifestyle that descends humanity, thus the idiot serves a greater purpose.
>>72431353
-me
I agree. But what's important is your paternal line. You can find out what y-DNA haplogroup you belong to. This is race in my opinion.
>>72429981
Mussolini was an idiot, he was a little crybaby.
If you knew the slightest bit about him you wouldn't be taking anything seriously from him.
The guy used to be a communist and obsessed with nietzsche and it took him a bullet while he was serving in WW1 to convert.
>>72429981
Sometimes people are wrong, no need to be triggered.
>>72430219
this, Mussolini is saying this in a time where europeans experience race as slavs/germanics/latins etc
If he'd see the horde of Balotelli's invading Italy today he'd change his mind real damn quick
>>72430109
>I could care less
haha nigger
opinion discarded
>>72431698
you are wrong but I am too lazy to write a response
>>72429981
He didn't have to deal with what's going on today. If he did, his opinion would have been different.
>>72430291
I agree with you my dude
>>72429981
He's not wrong
>>72430517
America is an Anglo country that was overrun with foreigners
Italy was never a real country
>>72430085
Oh, the irony of this post....
>>72432857
There are artificial frontiers everywhere, but the frontiers we would put today to delimited different european cultures were there since a long time ago.
Modern nations are a scam.
>>72432857
lmao tu quoque
>>72429981
he would have more weight behind his argument if his army could fight worth a shit. It turned out that homogeneous societies preformed better in warfare.
Yes you can have societies built from different ethnicities but to invite the whole world in and proclaim you are one culture has proven to be disastrous when facing unified homogeneous groups.
>>72430109
>black or white or mexican
>>72429981
>Mussolini
>"Italian"
>>72435376
>he would have more weight behind his argument if his army could fight worth a shit. It turned out that homogeneous societies preformed better in warfare.
This is the most shitty argument I have read in /pol/.
So you are saying that the mussolini's army was shit because italian society was not homogeneous?
If homogeneouse societies rule better, then why American army is the best on the world? Correlation doesn't imply causation.
fuck you kiwi shitposter
>
>>72429981
Who idiolizes Mussolini? He was inept as a leader and failed miserably
>>72437611
Kek
>>72429981
Nobody could fight like the sub Saharans. They are the ultimate predators, they are the most highly trained in physical warfare. They are genetically equipped to have automatic six packs and large cocks for defense and reproduction.
>>72437636
Italy is not unified far from it Jesus Christ even i know that way down here.
Italians fought well under FOREIGN leadership not their own and to answer you presumptuous question what are Norks what are Vietnamese. Even the Sand niggers are giving the yanks a run for their money. How about that for correlation.
Try again amigo.
>>72430085
>is a false concept inhabited by a multitude of ethnic groups and populated mostly by mongrels.
Coming from the USA...
>>72429981
>Hi my name is OP and I do not understand population genetics.
>Race doesn't exist because I don't like the idea.
>>72438875
Americans were mostly Germanic until recently. Nigger has never been a large population/ I don't know why they went full retard letting in millions of Hispanic mud breeds.
>>72429981
You should inform modern medicine of your findings. They think race exists.
>>72439576
Germanic and Irish and now they are minority white and a mix of various races.
They are the most mongrel nation in existence.
>>72439859
I haven't seen data suggesting high rates of race mixing beyond the norm.
>>72439961
>The norm
>As defined by the US the most mixed nation in the world
kek
>>72440022
No seriously it is around 5% which puts it in the range of a mental illness.
Where did the Iberian arse biter go anyway has he run off now someone wants to call him out on his bullshit? i'm not certain why Mussolini would say that when he was all to happy to gas niggers race war now.
>>72439576
JFKs death was used to push a new immigration policy that opened the gates
>>72429981
he's right
culture and ethnicity are what make nations
By importing more nigger you are clearly destroying your heritage hence your ''race''
The main goal of the globalist is to kill nations and turn populations into slaves
>>72430291
Yeah but no nation consists of 10,000 blonde haired blue eyed people. Thinking race exists is just retarded and holds us back from making a better society. We need to start believing in civic nationalism not ethnic nationalism.
Try to prove to me that you can quantify race /pol/
>feelings
>>72440864
So what you're saying is Europe should be importing Israelis and Australians with whom they share a culture and ethnicity?
>>72441780
>Thinking race exists is just retarded and holds us back from making a better society. We need to start believing in civic nationalism not ethnic nationalism.
anglos are good goys
>>72441961
>>72441916
Is he saying that? Read carefully.
>>72430085
>see this post
>see that flag
lel
>>72441780
I disagree and Mussolini was proven wrong now that we can get DNA testing.
>>72429981
>If a border collie just has the national spirit of Germany, it'll become a German Shepard.
Sure, Muss.
>>72441961
I agree with you mate, Muslims are fucking scum but its the ideology and culture due to Islam that causes this shit
>>72442106
No he wasn't, the word race in a biological sense means nothing. If you do that 23 and me shit it just means you have certain genes that are more frequently present in that population. It's all about gene prevalence.
>>72429981
he probably only said that cause italy is a meltpot of people. nothing to do with dindus integrating in western society
>>72442555
>but its the ideology and culture due to Islam that causes this shit
no it's not, if they were christian they would be the same shit, a proof of this is christianity itself, christians used to be almost as bad as muslim, its not about the religion, a lot of white muslims exist and don't do any crimes.
>>72442555
I disagree again. Birds. Canines. Wolves. Birds, Birds again. They fuck things up when it come to biological race. I'd like to look into fogs as well.
>>72430085
So the saying "Some Americans don't get irony" is true in some cases.
Well he is right: the only truly pure ones left in Europe are the Nordics. The Scandinavian race is the oldest in Europe. The ones in Italy were all mixed races.
However, Mussolini did say that black people are inferior to whites and he also justified the imperialist policy in Africa with that. He never meant niggers because niggers weren't even humans. He meant mixed Europeans.
>>72442696
Yes it is Islam in this case. It would be the same with christians if they were christian literalists. It just how literally you believe the scripture. If you were raised to believe its impossible to commit a crime against a infidel because you fundamentally believed the Bible or Quran were the literal word of god you would do shit like this as well. We should discriminate on culture not race
>>72442966
I don't even know what you're trying to argue mate, you just listed a bunch of animals. Can you elaborate on your point? Or just link me to any evidence showing race can be quantified
Also Mussolini hated Slavs too
>When dealing with such a race as Slavic — inferior and barbarian — we must not pursue the carrot, but the stick policy ... We should not be afraid of new victims ... The Italian border should run across the Brenner Pass, Monte Nevoso and the Dinaric Alps ... I would say we can easily sacrifice 500,000 barbaric Slavs for 50,000 Italians ...
t. Mussolini
>>72443340
>Wolves (canis lupus), coyotes (canis latrans), and domestic dogs (canis familiaris) are closely-related species. All three can interbreed and produce viable, fertile offspring — wolfdogs, coywolves, and coydogs. Through DNA analysis, scientists have established that the wolf is the ancestor of the dog.
Biological race does exist until we want to talk about how it relates to Humans.
>>72429981
He was the Sargon of Akkad of his age. If you are mixed or live in a mixed country, of course you are going to be biased against ethnic nationalism.
>>72430085
Jimmy get off of 4chan
>>72443747
That doesn't prove anything. Comparing wolves, coyotes and domestic dogs is like comparing Homo sapiens and Neanderthals. Yeah we can breed with them and evidence shows that we did but they are still a different species technically. The definition of species is wrong about 50% of the time anyway. Humans(Homo Sapiens) haven't ever been isolated long enough for speciation to take place so there is no measurable genetic difference between populations unless its varying percentages of certain alleles
Again, link me to any study that proves the existence of race between humans.
>>72444868
I don't know anon do you want to go down that rabbit hole? you will spend alot of time trying to prove it wrong and get sucked down into the black hole.
Forensic science can determine someones race from their skeletal structure.
>>72445205
No they can't, they can guess from which part of the world they are from due to the prevalence percentages of certain alleles. I beg you to show me any evidence, please convince me. How about you tell me what 'race' you say you are and how that is different from other 'races'
Benito was a commie at heart
And he's stupid because Italy is shit since its 10 fucking IQ points below northern europe
That quote comes from a time when eugenics was a mainstream view held by most scientists. If you didn't know, that's the process of phasing out undesirable traits and races from the gene pool to lead to better future.
Also remember that Italy held colonies in Africa, so by saying this he is saying that anyone living in an Italian colony can be considered a true Italian via national pride.
>>72446101
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Here's some tits since i wasted your time.
>>72442655
Italian army had a decorated sudanese officer once.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michele_Amatore
>>72429981
all over the world, in all societies, where there are niggers there is more crime. is it a cultural problem? yes, but why does it come from populations of a certain kind of race? if there is a correlation between race and national pride, which there is, then this quote is silly, Mussolini was a commie, and who cares
>>72430085
You have been nominated for the Facepalm of the Year Award.
>>72446204
Thanks for the tits lad.
Again it's no study or evidence but it's alright I would also not be arsed to do any work for some pleb on /pol/. Until its is proven that certain people have genes that only they have I will believe in race.
Like just think about how silly the idea of race is. If people would describe Sub-Saharan Africans as a different race to northern europeans, what make them a different race? They are connected by land so there is no isolation between gene pools. How south would I have to go from northern europe before I was a different race?
>>72429981
I more or less agree. Nation need not have a racial aspect. It's about shared cultural identity. This is often but not always tied to ethnicity.
>>72447077
depends on the nation. somewhere like brazil, mexico - yes, maybe youre right. any european or african or asian country though, and you are wrong. even the anglo countries like usa and australia, it doesnt really work, the basis of these countries was basically white nationalism, the authentic spirit of these nations has a racial aspect and not recognising that is destruction.
>>72447432
Yeah they had a racial aspect because they discriminated based on skin colour and language. Science proves skin colour just means you live in a sunnier climate so the basis of white nationalism is retarded. I'd rather have a black british person in my country than a white muslim from sudan
>>72446950
There is always going to be genetic drift imo we are different due to environmental factors and mutations not to such a large degree as wolves and dogs tho. Doesn't mean i want to throw Africans into the oven, I am of the opinion that is enough for genetic diversity to occur in humans even if it is 1 in 1000
Two frogs that are the same but different colours seems like a meme when it is applied to humans.
He´s correct. "Muhrace" is relevant only for Anglos and other nations mass-importing/exploiting brown people (or Germans trying to justify genocide).
Normal Europeans didn´t have any serious contacts with melanin enriched folks.
>>72430109
Genetics are everything. Its like we didn't map the genome.
>>72444868
time.com/91081/what-science-says-about-race-and-genetics/
Evolution has been recent, copious, and regional. There is more difference genetically between blacks and white than a Golden retrieve and a pug
>>72447823
Genetics do not stop at the fucking skin. Intelligence, aggression, patience, and every other trait is genetic.
>>72447823
>>72447823
>Science proves skin colour just means you live in a sunnier climate
lol, yes, but race =/= skin colour. there is no scientific proof that 'race doesn't exist', or other ridiculous notions. it's all semantic word play and sophistry. we know race exists because two black people who move to iceland, will still have a black child. the importance you ascribe to it is another matter, but your 'civic nationalism' is so obviously a pleb ideology meant to ensure allegiance to the state. there is no deeper validity in it other than 'be a good person and speak english than you are english', its fake as fuck. nationalism with any real basis is based on the people, not abstracts such as 'culture' or 'citizenship'.
im not even arguing for white nationalism, it may well be invalid too, but at least with in there is a real potential to oppose the soul destroying globalist consumerist machine that defines the modern world.
on a more pragmatic level - racial identities will ALWAYS exist anyway, whether you want them to or not. for example, blacks have a lower iq and do not psychologically gel well with modern societies, they will always underperform and feel resentment against the majority because of this. your colour blindedness is the (dare i say) privilege of the racial majority who has never had to think about race on a concious level. not so for the minorities, they will never give up their identities - and when they outnumber whites, they may very well persecute them.
>>72437611
he was a georgian as Stallini
>>72430085
why are people complaining about this post when americans are 95% european and italians are half muslim?
>>72449410
Exactly, all southern italians are basically arabs, so the race thing didn't worked here.
>>72430219
Why are there so many Bulgarians on /pol / and why are they all so based?
