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Cuck

>UK is safer in the EU from terrorism
Did you hear what happened in Paris?
>Who will defend us?
Our border guards and army, but only if we leave
>Prices will increase by 30%
Getting rid of EU VAT will decrease prices by about that much
>Britain will become like Albania
I guess independence is a bad thing tho
>Benefits and income will be cut or eradicated
...does she support Bernie? We already have complete control over welfare.
>Decrease in job availability
How?
>We can't trust the laws of our own elected government
But we can trust the laws of unelected commissioners obviously
>Britain won't be Britain by leaving the EU and becoming an independent British nation
Kek
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Shes a teenager, and judging from the name a foreigner, so she will be against anything nationalist without putting too much effort in her arguments.

Dont go for low hanging fruits, its boring.
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>>72409328
>Britain will become like Albania

Or... you know... might become like Switzerland or Norway...
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>>72409328
that name is not british at all nothing of value lost
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>Britain won't be Britain anymore
That already happened when all you filthy goatfuckers arrived
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>who will defend Britain?
If there were a major attack on Britain, the United States would throw an autistic shitfit the likes of which has not been seen since 9/11. No way do we let that go
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>Britain will compose its new laws which we cant trust
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The worrying part of that picture is the fact it's got 42 likes. 42 people need to walk off a cliff.
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>>72409328
The only reason so many middle class under 30's support the EU is because they have dreams of one day working on the continent. Unfortunately they don't know any other languages, so it'll only ever be a dream.

It's all I ever hear, being the only person I know at my university from a poor background I'm baffled at the average student's priorities. It's more important to reduce immigration to increase the amount of unskilled jobs for British poor people than it is "Lilmah" can spend 2 years "volunteering" in Spain.
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>>72410852
>im the only poor in this university

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KrlzaBNgz-M

Made this come to my mind for some reason.
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>>72409328
wtf am i reading cunt?
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If Britain leaves the EU, we are still in NATO, which is roughly 100 times more important than the EU for the purposes of defense.

Ask Ukraine how effective an EU defense is.
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>>72412808

Not when glorious Trump takes us out of NATO
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>Britain will compose it's new laws which we can't trust
>literally feudalist states answering to their Belgian overlords
The EU, ladies and gentlecucks. They tried this system once before and apparently loved it so much they're doing it again!
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>>72409328
>Britain making its own laws
>Britain won't be Britain anymore
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This is what we're up against lads, cunts who know fuck all, but spout off their shite & other cunts listen to those cunts & pass it on to other cunts, now you have a big fucking echo chamber of cunts spouting cunty misinformation at every other cunt they can drag into the chamber.

She shouldn't even be allowed to vote, it should be ethnic Brits only.
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Thanks for debunking her OP. I was worried because it seemed really well-informed and I couldn't have trumped her logic myself.
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>>72410852
>under 30's support the EU is because they have dreams of one day working on the continent.
Why the fuck someone wants to work on continent? Britain is god tier country.
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>who will defend us
The army you paki slag.
>will become like Albania
It's getting there thanks to the EU's involvement in our immigration and deportation policies.
>Britain will compose it's [sic] new laws which we can't trust
Self-hating cunt.
>Britain won't be Britain anymore
Contradiction there. Also, back to Pakistan.
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>>72409328
If Britain turns to shit without the EU, it just shows how evil the EU is. We don't that NWO experiment.
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>>72410852

You're a bit naive if you think kicking out some immigrants is going to create a huge wave of 'unskilled jobs' for British people.

How many jobs have they taken by the way? How many will it free up? How are a bunch of people who can't speak fucking English able to take your job?

At the last place I worked they were begging for English people to work there. But why would any of us want to live in London for minimum wage like some retarded Pole?
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>>72413358
It won't create them, it will vacate them.
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>>72413166
they are probably taught by their teachers that Britain is an evil country, nationalism is bigotry, and being an European is better than being British.
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>>72413518
They are. We were.
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>>72410630
Obviously. If British people decide their own laws they might not institute laws for their own replacement.
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>>72413459

So everyone from Newcastle is going to descend to London to get jobs at Pret a Manager are they? The fact is the UK has a very low unemployment rate and you don't have a single clue how many jobs leaving the EU is apparently going to create.

It's quite likely many companies will simply not replace staff and many industries actually rely on immigration not because they want to rob British people of jobs -- but because we won't fucking do the jobs.
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>>72413705
ah the old "they do jobs us british are too snobby for!!!! see, kill whitey!!!!"
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>>72410509
ya i mean, it's not like they're going to leave nato just because they leave the eu. Germany france and the rest of the anglo sphere still ride or die.
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>>72412926
ya, what's up with that anyways?
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>>72413773

Please explain then why several industries are facing huge staffing shortages, why the catering and agricultural industry is propped up entirely by immigrants, and how unskilled non-English speaking immigrants are managing to take jobs from the British people?

What about the jobs immigrants create by the way. Do you not care about them?
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>>72410630
>british politicians can't be trusted
>but it's ok to trust unelected eurocrats
Leftists everyone
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>>72413773

It's true tho. British people that complain they're taking their jobs are the exact same group that deem themselves too good to do it and sit on benefits all day.

These are the people who'll vote to leave, then get all shitty they can't take their family to Marbella because they need a visa
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>>72414149
pakis out
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>>72414223
It's almost like they're communists or something.

>>72414350
Solution: cancel all benefits.
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>>72414149
Not that anon but give this shit a rest. Immigrants can undercut the native working class because they don't have to raise families here. You can have half a dozen immigrant men sharing a low rent flat and sending the money to their families back home. An English guy with a family in this country has much higher overheads and can't compete in a race to the bottom. If industries are facing staff shortages it's their own fault for trying to pay fuck all in wages and an over reliance on cheap immigrant labour.
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>>72414553
This.
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>>72414350
If we need people to do jobs, we can decide to let some immigrants in. That is the point, we get to decide who we let in, when and why which we can't currently do and is the reason too many people are flooding into the country
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>>72414350
>exact same group
Who?
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>>72414553
>Immigrants can undercut the native working class
According to these guys, water isn't wet.
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>>72414553
>taking money out of our country/local economy and sending it to some east Euro shithole
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>prices increase
>oh no I must pay more that citizens of my country get to work
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>>72413705
Racist, cunt. There is NO job a brit won't do. But they won't work for nothing. Stop trying to under cut the people and the country by keeping the profits for yourself. Fucking shylock.
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>>72414553

How do you undercut minimum wage? If you're going going to argue that getting rid of immigrants will free up unskilled jobs why are they suddenly going to start paying £9 an hour for them?

In what way can a Brit not compete with a Polish person for a job at a supermarket?

Where are these native Brits with families that want to work seasonal jobs in hotels and on farms? Where are these British workers that can't support a family with a nurses salary?

Why is it that towns and cities with high unemployment rates don't usually have huge immigrant communities there? Could it be because immigrants aren't to blame for Hull?

I appreciate there are lots of issues with immigrants but it's not so black and white and to go "getting rid of immigrants will free up lots of unskilled jobs" is just ridiculous. It's flat out ignoring shortages we have in some industries, it's ignoring the deeply ingrained issues the longterm unemployed have in the UK, it's ignoring the fact that lots of jobs are created by and for immigrants (jobs that would otherwise be outsourced), and European immigrants are not taking over impoverished towns in the north of England.
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>>72415019
Even McDonald's workers get above minimum wage.

There's a psychological aspect to injecting the labour market with masses of immigrants, too. The more desperate a labour force, the worse conditions and benefits it will tolerate.
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>>72414977

Sure they won't. They won't undergo the training they need and they won't move. By definition immigrants are willing to move for work.

The thing is, I know as an absolute certainty you are just making all of this up. You're not basing your ideas about immigrants stealing jobs on unemployment rates, facts, or even real world examples. You're just making it all up.
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>>72410509
More like we'd join the back of the queue of US's concerns.
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>>72415232
Obama doesn't seem to enjoy having allies. Know that we citizens do not approve of his empty threats.
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>>72415168
By definition immigrants are willing to move for the welfare state.
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>>72415086

Most big chains don't pay significantly more than minimum wage. McDonald's pay 10p an hour more than minimum wage.

Why are labour forces getting more desperate? Our unemployment rate isn't rising.
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Why are the 15-30 year old demographic the most liberal? Why do they believe in a fairy tale world where everybody gets along and they deny the harsh reality?
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>>72413773
>that fucking face
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>>72415168
Fact: the greater the labour supply relative to demand, the greater the negative pressure on wages, conditions, benefits, and rights.

giz a job

>>72415352
>Why are labour forces getting more desperate?
You can't actually live on benefits anymore.
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>>72415365
Of course they do.Why wouldn't they?
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>>72409328
a shitskin shilling for the destruction of England what a new
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>>72409328
>if somehow terrorism does strike who will defend us?

Yourself?
Fuck, I cannot stand these fucking pussies who think someone else needs to fight their battles.
On top of that the EU wouldn't lift a single finger to help the UK if it came to that.
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>>72415019
You dumb fuck. My mates a pole, he comes here so many months a year, lives in boarding houses, lives cheep. Sends all his money home. He's a plumber- carpenter, the money he makes here is 10 times what he makes there. He's a good worker so gets work and can work cheep but still can afford a massive house and half a dozen kids and dogs. In his own village. It's simple economics, the pound will buy more there than here. Even a basic wage can be worth two to three times what it's worth here.
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>>72415019
The availability of masses of people who would jump at the chance to take *any* job at minimum wage compresses the spread of wages so that the minimum wage is now the default.
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>>72409328
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>>72409328
What happen to British farmers if we leave the EU? Will the British govt be able afford £3bn a year in subsidies?
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>>72415168
Bullshit, you know fuck all. Pay them enough and they will work or train or move. My first job was in Dover 300 miles away training, why money. You are are just a bigot, grow up.
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>>72415884
EU membership outgoings > existing subsidies and rebates. There is a net outflow of money from the UK.

We'd have MORE money to spend on agriculture if we left the EU.
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>>72415605
Fucking thank you, I don't know why this is so hard for people to understand, it's simple supply and demand.
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>>72413773
I fucking lol'd
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>>72409328
I agree mostly but
>Getting rid of EU VAT
the uk government is not going to give up that money
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>>72409328
>Liimah Alimah lecturing British people
Uh oh
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>>72414223
>>72409328
Sometimes I genuinely wonder who won the cold war
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>>72414223
This is especially ironic given that the EU evolved from corporatist "free trade" agreements. Despite having many leftist supporters, and occassionally dabbling in social matters in a lefty way, there's really nothing leftist about the EU as an institution at its core.
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>>72416195

Well. You are living in shit tier commieblocks while Putin Rob's your country blind and I'm sitting in my comfy bed, in my $478k house drinking Folgers coffee and talking to you on my IPad.

I'd say we won.
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>>72415019
It's entirely possible for big companies to finangle paying workers at below minimum wage. Illegal, but possible. We've had a few big scandals over here where exactly that happened. And it's always immigrants and those on visas that are being exploited, because locals won't generally stand for that shit.

But it's supposed to be Unions' job to make sure exploitation like that doesn't happen and that wages are more or less standardised across an industry - unfortunately unions tend to see foreign workers as the enemy instead of those most in need of the unions' protection.
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>>72416409
Do tell, white minority by 2040. Do you have any idea what bright future will await socialist and no longer white america? Take a look at brazil and South africa. For the record, my apartment in the middle of the city was worth 1 000 000 dollars two years ago, even if it's 50% cheaper now it s still more expensive than your paper townhouse.
>Ipad
>Folgers coffee
Oh please
>implying your leaders are not even more corrupt, spending more money than russian gdp is on meaningless wars and help to your GREATEST ALLIES
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>>72409328
God every fucking shit skin and nigger ALWAYS supports whatever is worse for the country and strips them of an identity. Every fucking time this infuriates me.
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>>72416010
Supply and demand when the market consists of a relatively small pool of powerful employers and a large pool of unaffiliated (potential) employees yes.

Unionism is supposed to somewhat redress this market imbalance to put things back on an even playing field.

Supposed to. Unfortunately most unions these days are self serving, corrupt, political bodies only.
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>>72416627
This, Russia plays to win the long game and they always win the long game, always.
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>>72409328
>if somehow terrorism does strike
>if somehow terrorism does strike
>if somehow terrorism does strike
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>>72412808
This - EU is essentially irrelevant for terrorism defence. Police cooperation would likely continue regardless via interpol, and actual military stuff is NATO not EU.
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It's bigger than just UK leave UE.
If UK leave, we have all a chance to leave.
Snowball.
So UK is our chance.
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>>72413123
Pretty much this desu

OP you should find better ways to spend your time, trying to debunk a teenaged political opinion on social media is pissing in the ocean
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>>72414350
Then we know we need to nip the problem at the bud, don't we? Dismantle the nanny state and cancel all benefits. Get rid of the Jobcenters and the NHS and everything else that's made our people complacent and lazy in this big Socialist's wet dream of a country.
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>>72409328
>comparing Britain to Albania
Top kek. There's a reason we're not like Albania: we're not a former Communist shithole. Then again by the looks of it she probably doesn't even know where Albania is.
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>>72415232
>>72415302
Regarding this, would President Trump give a shit about an attack on Britain?
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>>72415365
They've been subjected to Leftist academia and media their entire lives. They know nothing more.

My younger brother, back when he was in secondary school, used to tell me about all the socialist brainwashing that goes on in academia. It was bad when I was in school, it's even worse now.
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>>72409328
>this is a 10 in Britain
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>>72417943
Depends what the attack is I guess. He'd probably offer some support but I'd doubt he'd go too out of his way.

Remember that he has given money to Sinn Fein.
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>>72415404
is that young ricky gervais?
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>>72409328
>who will defend us?
America, like always. Dumb bitches, I bet she was outside with a "Refugees welcome!! :)" sign.
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speaking of sinn fein, the good Friday agreement relies on the EU commission of human rights. Without it Britain will have to renegotiate the good Friday agreement and if an agreement can't be made then Britain will officially be at war with the IRA. So assuming you will be safe from terrorists if you leave the EU isn't exactly smart.
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>who will defend us?
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>>72409328
>britain will compose it's new laws which we can't trust... Britain won't be Britain anymore
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>>72409328
>britain wont be britain any more if we let our own people make our laws

holy fuck

all leftists fucking do is try to say the opposite of the truth, no matter how blatantly wrong they are, they dont care, because they have the victim bullshit on their side, so they're right
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>>72418867
We're shaking in our boots.
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>>72410509
Only when Obama has finally fucked off.
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>>72418867
>implying that Britain hasn't moved on

Something that you Micks don't seem able to do
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>>72421846
Moved on?
You mean you're NOT intending to get Ireland back at some point?


Pfft
I've lost faith in you Britain.
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>>72409328
What a joke. We're a military superpower by the standards of the EU. Who other than France can even touch us in that regard?
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>>72417943
Trump is a closet teaboo. Scotland especially has a place in his heart, as much as I loathe the porridge wogs.
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