Why aren't you a feminist yet?
>>72393889
because they have no clear objective
>>72394121
The objective is fair treatment for women.
>>72393889
>ALT RIGHT:high energy
>leftist:high cholesterol
>>72393889
Because they're women, and women are annoying
>>72394232
That's sexist, anon. You should take some time to meditate on the issues and ask yourself why you have so much anger towards women.
>>72393889
Because I live in America and:
a. Don't care about how women are treated in other countries
b. Feminism in America is not about equality, it's about bitching for attention and female supremacy
>>72394444
I think at this point it's mostly about seeing fair treatment in the workplace, that women are paid their fair share and not passed over for opportunities that should be theirs.
>>72394741
>paid their fair share and not passed over for opportunities that should be theirs
Could you give me some examples?
>>72394192
i agree. women are treated differently. they get advantages in all walks of life, handled with kiddy gloves in all crimes and get the benefit of the doubt in everything.
i can't wait till you have to sign up for the draft. give up your freedom in exchange for the power to vote. maybe you'll actually fucking show up on november
Are you fucking kidding? They are the source for most of the degeneracy, or at lease a tool.
>>72394444
Quads of truth
>>72393889
Because sometimes in the shower I notice that I don't have tits or a vagina. I know, right, what a surprise, but it's true. It's really true, I have a penis. It's an incredibly rare thing these days.
>>72394816
Also, some fields are still extremely male dominated, and at some level women are still not very welcome or being pushed out.
>>72395034
Ah, you were referring to the wage gap and STEM fields.
The problem being that the wage gap is nonexistent if you compare a man and woman who actually work the same job for the same amount of hours per day.
As for there being more men in certain fields of expertise, it's not sexist, women just, in general, choose the easier jobs that happen to pay less.
>>72393889
Because i have a job
>>72395407
There's no proof of that.
People of a certain gender might prefer one type of job over another but women in tech, mechanical, and engineering fields are treated as inferior.
>>72395723
>asks for proof
>provides none for her own claim
>>72395723
>but women in tech, mechanical, and engineering fields are treated as inferior
Might I request some sources?
You guys should read this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/samantha-paige-rosen/women-in-the-us-are-still-wage-gap_b_5018490.html
>>72396281
>Huffington post
>reliable source
top fucking kek
>>72393889
True feminism has been bastardized by lardass landwhale SJW crybabies.
Originally it was a just cause, now it's just elitism.
>>72393889
because women were already given rights, and look where that got us
>>72396281
>huffington post
>>72393889
Women's suffrage has ruined the west
Because the goal of modern feminism is not the achieve equality but to usurp men and become the new "cis white male" at the top of the food chain.
>>72395723
>There's no proof of that.
>literally countless studies which control for these factors proving it
>makes an assertion with no proof
lol, this troll gettin good
>>72395723
here are the sources that you probably won't read
http://www.payscale.com/data-packages/gender-pay-gap
http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-wage-gap-myth-that-wont-die-1443654408
www.consad.com/content/reports/Gender%20Wage%20Gap%20Final%20Report.pdf
>>72396854
RARE
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because most feminists don't know what the FUCK they are talking about they go on Twitter all day and retweet a picture of Malala and they're like "changing the world one retweet at a time!!! :D"
>>72396281
I have to agree with the other anons on this one.
Don't you have a more reputable site?
>>72393889
I don't need to be, I get pussy already.
Feminism is female hypergamy codified and weaponised.
If women want respect, they can fight in trenches, work on oil rigs, go down a mine for 10 hours a day or repair sewers.
>>72393889
>Why aren't you a feminist yet?
Because i need my brain cells
>>72396895
>http://www.payscale.com/data-packages/gender-pay-gap
Seems to support the other side of the argument.
>http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-wage-gap-myth-that-wont-die-1443654408
Not going to subscribe or log in just to read the story!
www.consad.com/content/reports/Gender%20Wage%20Gap%20Final%20Report.pdf
Won't load.
>>72393889
In the US female infant genital mutilation is illegal, but male infant genital mutilation is legal and encouraged.
I will continue giving zero fucks about women's rights until men are at least given the basic human rights women already enjoy in my country.
>>72394192
agree
>>72393889
For the same reason I'm not an abolitionist:
>there's no reason for it anymore.
>>72397145
http://harvardlawreview.org/2015/02/trading-the-megaphone-for-the-gavel-in-title-ix-enforcement-2/
It's kind of a long read though.
Tell me in what ways women do not have equal rights?
If anything, I'd say they have it better than men.
>>72397229
No thanks. You guys can keep those jobs. Besides, if women are even allowed, they'd just have to put up with a lot of abuse from male co-workers.
>>72397358
>Seem to support the other side of the argument
It clearly states that women make different life choices. That's their fucking choices.
"But patriarchy influences their choices" then, firstly, calling the wage gap the problem is deceptive, the problem would be how women are conditioned.
Secondly, do you have a source that supports that claim?
>>72397867
>No thanks. You guys can keep those jobs.
Just fucking typical.
>>72397358
If you look just a little closer at the payscale one you would see they put the controlled pay gap at around 2.7%
http://www.nber.org/papers/w11240.pdf?new_window=1
>June O’Neill, former director of the Congressional Budget Office, concluded in a 2005 study that “there is no gender gap in wages among men and women with similar family roles.”
http://content.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,2015274,00.html
>>72397869
I already posted them, you pathetic maple blower.
>>72394192
Then define "fair".
That's the issue with feminism; if you ask 10 feminists when "fair" treatment will be achieved you'll get twenty different answers.
Women are already equal in every way you can tangibly measure equality in a society and yet there are throngs of people who have nothing better to do than make problems where none exist.
It's a Dichotomy paradox. Those who are feminists will never feel they've reached equality.
>>72393889
because I hate people who shove their BS in my face.
1968 feminism = skinny, bra-less hippy chick's getting high and dancing in front of you (hairy, but ..eh.whatevs) while you grill up some steaks over the campfire
2016 feminism = fat naggy bitch wants you to cook a hamburger on the hot tray next to the bathroom sink (last electrical outlet that works) while she takes a dump
>>72398067
It's true there are different kinds of feminism, and some of them have radical views, but the goal of working towards equality for women in the workplace, and in other areas, is a noble one. It's just all too easy for men to put their heads and the sand and pretend these issues don't exist.
>>72398047
you're going to need something better than the huffington post cause I can go all day.
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2012-08-13/don-t-blame-discrimination-for-gender-wage-gap
http://www.businessinsider.com/women-in-tech-make-more-money-and-land-better-jobs-than-men-2010-9
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/03/nyregion/03women.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
>>72398047
None of them are both reliable and supporting your claim.
Lol, all the thins youd expect from a feminist, even on pol. Bullshit sources, clearly states she wants equality only when it suits her, and whining about "muh abuse from co-workers".
Exactly what you should expect, or 8/10 bait.
>>72398337
Both sexes get treated like shit for different reasons. How about instead of focusing on a particular gender they just fight for better treatment for all people?
It seems pretty sexist to only focus on women.
>>72398337
Except they don't. There's never been a "patriarchy", men have always had to fight the wars and do the dirty jobs so that women could be comfortable.
And sorry, but the idea that men and women are "equal" is laughable and always will be. I'm not sure where this fixation on equality of everything and total relativism of race, sex and species came from. We're not equal. We're not equal physically, we're not equal mentally, we're not equal intellectually. Academia has become so gynocentric that more men are leaving to pursue trades, self-employment or just masturbate to porn because they had to bring the standards for everything down and cater to women constantly.
>>72397691
Many of the rape accusations on college campuses are false and end up getting the accused student expelled.
Being drunk should not make the man a rapist, why isn't the woman responsible for her decision to become intoxicated?
If a woman gets in a car wreck while drunk, she's held accountable, right?
Why is it any different if she has drunk sex? What about men who get drunk?
Surely they're also being raped.
So many MRA's on /pol/. You guys are hopeless.
>>72399192
Alright. Have a lovely day.
>>72399192
Goodbye sir.
>MRA!!11!!!
Holy fucking shit this is just too good to be true.
>>72399192
>Recognizing that men have issues too is somehow bad
Here's your (You)
>>72396895
the "gender wage gap" is not proof of inequality of opportunities.
