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It's 2016, people shouldn't die because they can't afford health care.
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Why not?
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>>72321001

Maybe there's only enough healthcare for 500 mn whites, and not for everyone else.
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>>72321058
Because we have the resources as a nation to provide for them so everyone has the care they need so they don't die
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>>72321001
True, they should die because they are killed
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>>72321001
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>>72321097
Go away evil dogger.
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>>72321308
>Because we have the resources as a nation to provide for them so everyone has the care they need so they don't die
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>>72321001
Middle is best girl, prove me wrong /pol/.
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>>72321097

GO AWAY EVIL DOGGER
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>>72321097
Go away evil dogger, bad dogger.
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>>72321001
Fuck, marry, kill

Go
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>>72321891

for kids, yes

for fucking, not gonna beat that mulatto nigger dominican booty
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>>72321001
They don't have to. Hospitals offer payment plans and banks offer loans.
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>>72321879
The idea of spending a few bucks to save someone from disease is ridiculous, but you are okay with spending 10x that amount to save them from a fucking plant.
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>>72321308
how to white genocide, the post
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>>72322006
>Fuck, marry, kill

The only right answer.
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>>72322075
fucking leaf wants to make us apathetic potheads
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>>72321097
go away evil dogger
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>>72321001
Muh dick
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>>72321097
go away evil dogger
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>>72322103
But every other country in the world provides for their citizens. Why not America? It works everywhere else
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>>72322239
As-salamu alaykum, bruv.
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>>72321001
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHNNNNNG
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>>72321001
Why not? I shouldn't die at the hands of niggers because I can't afford a gun, will you buy me one? No? Then die because I don't want to pay for your gender change.
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>MUH EMOTIONAL ARGUMENT
>Every one is EQUAL
>Every one should LIVE FOREVER
>Every one should be TAX SLAVES
top kek faggot, do you even read books?
Socialism has killed more than religion.
Please, tie a noose around your neak and kick the chair out.
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>>72321097
Go away evil dogger
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>>72321001
Would fuck all three.

Also fuck socialism and communist scum
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>>72321001
It's 2016, people shouldn't die because the state says they're too expensive to serve medically.
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>>72321097

Go away evil dogger.
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>>72322386
Because they aren't paying their fair share to NATO
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>>72321001
>people shouldn't die

We're all going to die, stupid.

Healthcare only delays the inevitable, and poor genetics are going to fucking kill you no matter what you do to live healthy.

Funfact: If you were born premature, you have a -30 average life expectancy over any of your full term siblings.

Face it, communism under the guise of socialism is just a means of exploitation for those at the bottom, just like ANY OTHER POLITICAL IDEOLOGY.

Equality is a sham. We're not all equal, we weren't created to be equal, and we sure as hell don't LOOK equal.

Just like the pic you posted, OP.

KILL, MARRY, FUCK
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>>72321001
It's 2016, people shouldn't die because the state can't enslave enough doctors to treat everyone in a timely manner.
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>>72321097
go away evil dogger
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>>72322482
Don't you have any sympathy for people who are in bad situations or people without families to help them?
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>>72322053
This. That thickness can't be beat.
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>>72322386
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Medical_Treatment_and_Active_Labor_Act
?
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>>72321001
They don't

>>72321097
Go away evil dogger.

>>72321891
No argument here
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>>72321001
They all Fuck niggers
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>>72321097
go away evil dogger
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>>72322699
>Don't you have any sympathy for people who are in bad situations or people without families to help them?
Those people should take care of themselves. If the government didnt waste 50% of earnings, volunteerism would take care of fucked up situations as it always had in the past.
Also dipshit, have you ever heard "teach a man to fish and he will eat forever" "gibs a man welfare for nothing, and he will leech off of you forever"???

Low IQ fucking losers having trouble?
Let me just stop civilization and help them REPRODUCE MORE LOW IQ FUCKING LOSERS.

Honestly, take a bunch of prescription medication and lock yourself in a closet.
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>>72321097
Go away evil dogger.
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>Fuck the Venezuelan
>Marry the Mexican
>Kill the Dominican
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>>72321097
Go away evil dogger
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>>72321001
The dominican looks borderline nigger.
The mexican looks 8.5/10 would facefuck and more.
The fucking venezuelan looks 9.5/10 only cause she's not white. I'd kill Trump to fuck her, even tho i think he's the god emperor.
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And do the fuck away evil dogger, even if your presence in this thread pleases me.
OP BERNOUT PIC RELATED
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>>72321097
Go away evil dogger.
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>>72323026
Ok but what about a woman who can't afford an abortion so she has to drop out of college and she can't work because she has a child? These people need our help.
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>>72321001
Why not? Tell me one good reason why anyone on this world shouldn't die.
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>>72321097
Go away evil dogger.
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>>72321097
go away evil dogger
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>>72321097
Go away evil dogger.
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>>72321097
Go away evil dogger.
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>>72321097
GO AWAY EVIL DOGGER
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>>72321097
GO AWAY EVIL DOGGER
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Go away evil dogger
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>>72323302

It always comes back to some bullshit 'but what about women' argument, doesn't it?

Fuck women. That's a feels based biased as fuck argument.

>WHAT IF X SO X HAPPENS SO SHE HAS TO X

No one gives a fuck. Where's equality with feminists when all their arguments are PRO WOMEN?

That's not equality, that's bigotry. When every last one of your gripes only seeks to benefit WOMEN, that's outright sexism.
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>>72321097
Go away evil dogger.
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>>72321097
Go away evil dogger.
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>>72323302
>Ok but what about a woman who can't afford an abortion so she has to drop out of college and she can't work because she has a child? These people need our help.
Hurr durr its the current year, people who make mistakes deserve out money.

She doesnt need to afford an abortion, she should become the abortion. If somebody pays for her to kill the child, will she learn? No. Low IQ people are NOT WORTH SAVING DUE TO THE FACT THEY REPRODUCE MORE LOW IQ PEOPLE.
She cant work because she has a child? So low IQ fuck tards can just sit around and shit out kids while the ones with jobs have to pay for it and not reproduce?
Please, please, try to figure out how life works before making these shit tier arguements.

Whats next, 19 inbreed musim retards killed 3000 people and knocked down 3 buildings in new york?
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>>72321058

Because its barbaric? You guys are happy to pay tax to go out and kill people with the army, but you don't even want to protect your own citizens.
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>>72323258
go outside you maniac
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>>72321097
Haha I have immunity cat

Curse dog btfo
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>>72323530
Ok fine, what about an immigrant man who comes to start a new life away from war, he has nothing when he comes here. He needs help. It's not just about women.
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>>72322054
>most frequent cause of bankruptcy in the US is healthcare costs

Nice sustainable system you have there goy. The insurance jew must be appeased with a constant stream of shekels from the sick and poor.
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>>72321001
>It's 2016, people shouldn't die because they can't afford health care.

But they fucking don't, U.S. Hospitals are legally obligated to give people with life threatening ailments medical care whether or not they can afford it.

They send debt collecters after them afterwards.
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>>72324014
he paid nothing into this system so he also deserves no help.
I guess you want to make the country mother theresa for the world but that shouldn't be paid for with tax payer money
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>>72321001
>It's 2016, people who contribute to the state shouldn't die because they can't afford health care.
ftfy
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>>72321879
Mother fucker you have everything free on that island
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>>72321001
And in the US they don't, hospitals can't deny people care by law.
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>>72324293
The people are just cost of controlling territories lol.
Washington DC is world army duh
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>>72322404

A salami lake, yum
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>>72324210
I had insurance that wouldnt cover a fucking bullet wound
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>>72324210

I believe it's illegal to send people to collection agencies over medical bills. Hospitals can contact you for payment but they will write it off I'd you can't afford it.
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>>72324489

What insurer was it some kind of catastrophic plan with a 10k deductible?
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>>72324014
>away from war

If he was worth anything he would be fighting to save his own country.

>he needs help

If he can't help himself, then he's worthless.
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>>72324262
Some people can't afford to contribute to the state, ok? They're poor and they are trying to feed their kids working minimum wage jobs and God forbid someone gets sick and they go broke paying hospital bills
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>>72324014

Your alleged compassion is the death of civilizations. There will be haves and have nots, if want a country that takes in every mud person with a sob story then move to Sweden.
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>>72324804
> working minimum wage jobs and God forbid someone gets sick and they go broke paying hospital bills

Hospitals will write off bills if you can't afford it stop spewing Hernie tier lies.
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>>72323683

Not seeing the issue here.
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Let the free market handle it. Ditch this kike run oligopoly insurance scheme, install a government healthcare system (state and federal), and allow the free market to decide as well. Basically the Gov. system is a fallback for the poor, elderly, etc.. while your normal joe can go to free market if they desire. This is just a basic outline because healthcare goes way deeper...

Sadly everyone wants to sperg out about higher taxes, the gubbimint contwolling yo body, and other stupid shit. I support Trump fully but why in the fuck don't we have a public health system like other nations?!
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>>72324915
You probably have it good, well aren't you lucky? Guess what, not everyone is so lucky, there are lots of people less fortunate than you who and you just call them lazy or stupid
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>>72325120
How is this different than the ACA
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>>72323302
Shouldn't have been a whore
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>>72321308
>we
>as a nation
You mean other people have earned the resources by creating value for others and that you are entitled to demand that those resources be seized at gunpoint and handed out as fits your feelings? Make the world and this country a better place and kill yourself this instant.
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>>72325322
If you're truly poor, Medicare is provided to you and I've seen plenty of dumb, lazy niggers bring their kids into the emergency room because their kids have the sniffles and they're too fucking stupid or it's just plain more convenient than going to a clinic. They don't even see the god damn hospital bill and they don't give a flying fuck that they just cost the taxpayer a gorillion dollars.

If you get "free" shit, you tend not to treat it with respect. This is why socialism is a fucking waste of money. That isn't even factoring in the inefficient government rekking anything they touch with mountains of red tape.

tl;dr fuck you and fuck your bills, faggot.
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>>72322482
Ok, what books talk about socialism and show how many people it's killed? Where's your evidence that helping people in need ruins countries?
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>>72325713
Or, medicaid, whatever, fuck off.
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>>72321001

2016 people shouldn't have to work to live.

muh welfares.
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>>72324293
>Mother fucker you have everything free on that island

Of course we, I'm currently typing this on my free computer while driving on my free Ford truck.
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>>72325629
How can you be so selfish that you won't even pay a few thousand more in taxes to help your fellow men and women?
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>>72323683

Still haven't stepped out of the historic shadow left by religion, eh?

I doubt most people in this era will. Liberalism is the new Catholicism.
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>It's 2016, people shouldn't have to walk because they can't afford a car.
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>>72325972
>it's 2016, people shouldn't have to rape because they're too ugly to get laid
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>>72325972
thas rite!
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>>72321001

People don't die. They go into debt but they don't die.
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>>72321308
>Because we have the resources
>12 trillion in debt
How can people be this insane?
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I sort of think people should die.Humans are so spoiled to think healthcare is a right. watch more nature documentaries or something. It's quite clearly a privilege. What is more privileged than having life artificially given to you? That's the ultimate privilege, far more than getting a nice house or car. Like getting your fucking heart fixed at 70. That's an insane privilege. WTF kind of right is that
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>>72321001
I agree. Get ObamaCare out of here.
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>>72324804
Nobody who cannot earn more than minimum wage should ever have a child. I sure as hell shouldn't be obliged to pay for her worthless shitty decisions.
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>>72325872
>it's selfish to want to keep the money you earned but it isn't selfish to take other people's money you didn't earn
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>>72325120
Waste of other people's money on worthless people and the public health care system destroys the possibility for private health care in any meaningful sense. Look at Canada's anemic private options. This is all before you factor in countries with socialized medicine systematically chipping away at IP rights so that firms are increasingly forced to recoup development costs in countries with more markets.
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>>72321308

No, you don't. You TAKE the resources from the people BY FORCE to reallocate it to others who won't work for it themselves.

I am chronically ill and I work. I agree that for procedures so expensive no one person can afford it, there should be financial aid. For small things, get a job nigger.

Even in extreme cases such as lung or liver cancer, there should first be a review of the lifestyle of the recipient of the healthcare as to whether they deserve it.
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>>72322482

I am now on the floor with a noose around my neck, good job faggot
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>>72325872
If they are worthless human refuse like the niggers that infest our inner cities, they are not my fellows. I will subsidize people whose fates I care about by choice. I will not subsidize worthless people making worthless decisions and breeding ever more worthless people who think they are entitled to the sweat of my brow.
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>>72321001
Funny how everyone seems to be able to afford Macbooks, iPhones, Playstations, HD TVs, going out to the club every weekend, eating out 5 times a week. I don't think there is a crisis of not being able to afford health care.
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>>72321001
pls trump deport dat Mexican piece of ass back to my country.
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>>72327298
>a fucking leaf

You better check that maple privilege..
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>>72322386
Are you retarded? Have you never heard of Medicaid? Everyone in America can get free healthcare that covers more than the insurance that I pay 500 a month for. As long as you don't work or contribute anything to the system that is.
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>>72321001
>its the current year

fuck off with that shit. present an actual argument if you want to be taken seriously
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>>72323683
Using that logic why would we not be ok with people dying because they're morons that didn't make themselves more marketable and get a job that offered them or would allow them to afford Healthcare?
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>>72321001

They die because they buy into universal healthcare. Think before you speak, fellow burger.
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>>72322974
Doubt it. Latinas like that love white guys. Obviously chads but still white. Niggers go with more girls like pic related.
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>>72322518
How are people this stupid? Medicaid is literally the best insurance you can get in America and you only qualify if you're poor. You are more likely to be refused care if you actually work and pay for your own private insurance. Poor people who refuse to work or contribute to society have better medical insurance than people who work and have money.
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Yeah that's why they don't you fucking faggot.
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>>72327766

>British teeth
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>>72321308
Unless you're a doctor willing to work for free, you have no business calling healthcare a free right
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>>72327825
I make too much for medicaid personally but my son who is 7 years old qualifies for it. Don't have to pay anything for him.
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>>72327987
Comment was meant to reply for the one above yours.
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>buys brand name clothes
>eats shitty fast food
>smokes weed/drinks frequently

why can't i afford to go to the doctor? Why am I always getting sick? Ffs, you need to pay for a service, even if that service is life or death.

We will die without food, still shouldn't be free.
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>>72321001

Stay away from mexican, they age poorly.

Go with puerto rican/dominican... iv seen puerto rican women in their late 40's who are still very lively, silky smooth skin and tight bodies.

The mexican ones shrivel up in their 40's.
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>>72321001
nearly no one dies because of no money, since the ontological code of doctors forces them to help you, now, they 99% of the times are going to save you, but the bill will destroy your life
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>>72321001
Arianny is only half mexican, shes half filipino
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>>72328066
Alberta?
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>>72321001
They dont hospitals have to accept them even if they cant pay
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>>72321001
Not that I think people should be denied health care, but you may want to rethink your current argument. What you're using by suggesting that the current year is important is called a fallacy of relevance. What that means is that what you're using to make your point - the year, in this case - is not in any way relevant to whether or not people should be denied medical care.

What you may want to try to do in the future is maybe make a moral argument, or a populist one. Both of those would be more relevant to your conclusion that telling me what year it is.
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>>72328232
I wish, I'm in cuckcentral Toronto
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>poopianny
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>>72321001
>people shouldn't die because they can't afford health care
Health care has never been a priority in any society. It is a luxury. Despite this we have the best access in the world. Does this equate to cost effectiveness, no, but if you are sick in the US you have the best chances of surviving compared to any other country. People die waiting for an appointment with a specialist to open up in universal healthcare systems.
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>>72328132
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>>72328559
I saw Bernie supporters asking if the quality of healthcare would improve or stay the same because the would be paying the same with the tax increase as their current insurance. Replies were saying improve, lmao.
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>>72321001
>>72322006

Fuck marry kill
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>>72328559
>healthcare is a luxury
>america has the best healthcare in the world
>americans have the best chance of surviving

Jesus Christ. This level of delusion shows your education system is just as bad as your healthcare. You know the USA has a worse rate of malpractice death than any other country on the planet....right? You know that you have a worse infant mortality rate than Costa fucking Rice...right? You know that your life expectancy is one of the worst in the developed world....right?

No, of course you don't, because the USA is 24th in education and showing it.
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>>72328559

cmon amerifag even here in Gondor we have free healthcare with accessable waiting lists thru ACC
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>>72328302
>that little bit of underboob scar on the right tit
I'm sure she looked fine without fake tits but she just had to go and ruin it...
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>>72329147
>using the totally debunked Soros funded chart

Fuck off Nigel
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>everyone should have healthcare paid for by government


>doctors on strike in the UK should be paid more!

Pick one, faggot. By choosing to give government am absolutely monopoly in doctor employment, there is no competition in wage offerings and the budget is highly limited, meaning doctors will have to be paid less.
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>>72321001
People should die because they are apathetic useless fucking cowards. Human life is not sacred, never was.
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>>72329623

Where do you purchase your katanas?
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>>72321001
Is heath care a birth right or something you have to afford (work for)?
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Health care should be private
here we're literally forced to pay state-provided healthcare which is completely shit-tier and doesn't even cover general check ups
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>>72329560

Nice work failing to understand the doctors strike.

The issue is not pay, but that they are being asked to work more/worse hours for no pay increase.

Let's see your NEET-ass do a 70 hour week.
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>>72326203
It's all cause of the Federal Reserve. If it weren't established in 1913 by Cuckrow Wilson the Jews wouldn't have the power they do. Government debt wouldn't be an issue.
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>>72321001
I agree OP.
It's moral to help the people.
It's moral to steal to feed a family.
It's moral to force a doctor to perform an expensive surgery on someone for free.

Call me a slave-driver. We're slaves to morality; and someone who doesn't have a sense of morality should pay up.
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>>72321001
Fuck, Kill, Marry
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Why should I, a hardworking American taxpayer, be responsible for paying for Shaniqua's diabetic ass because she dropped out of high school at age 16 then fucked 10 men to get 20 kids then couldn't shop good food and has to go to Walmart to buy beetus all day?
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>>72325423
Ditch the kike run insurance was point number 1.
The ACA was writtwn by kike insurance faggots
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>>72327817
Medicaid is fucking nice.
These pseudo-welfare plans like Molina, Harmony, etc fucking suck.
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>>72330057
>would kill the whitest one
lol normal paki
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>>72330259
She is also the ugliest one.
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>>72329560
but the government doesn't have a monopoly on healthcare. There are private hospitals and doctors in the UK.
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>>72321001
Its 2016, we should be practicing eugenics and culling the unfit and incompetent to ensure that the future population of the human species is as healthy and able as possible before overcrowding sets in and our planet is overharvested and polluted into a nightmarish hellscape whose damage can never be reversed.
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>>72321097
Go away evil dogger,
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>>72321001
Because I've got to wait until 2030 to put Harriet Tubman back to work at the KFC!

I mean c'mon! It's 20 fucking 16 for crying out loud!
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>>72322006
Kill, Marry, Get pregnant out of wedlock.
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>>72328559
>if you are sick in the US you have the best chances of surviving compared to any other country
but this isn't true
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>>72324804
>God forbid someone gets sick and they go broke paying hospital bills
Question: How many times has this actually happened?
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>>72321097
Come here evil dogger and cuddle with me.
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>>72323157
Well said, Brother.
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>>72322006
Fuck, Fuck, Fuck

No rubber. No pull out

Doing my part to spread the white man genes.
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>tfw /pol/ cucks complain about poor people receiving health care while they use their parent's health care while they rot in their basement

lel
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>>72332258

except it is the free healthcare fags that made 20-25 year old NEETS leech off their parents healthcare in the first place.

Hell... I am in my early 30's and even I bandwagoned on my parents healthcare as long as possible even as a professional just to make my paycheck that much more larger that month.
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>>72321790
based jap as usual
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>>72321001
>It's 2016, people shouldn't die because they can't afford health care.

>It's 2016, people shouldn't die because they can't afford food.

>It's 2016, people shouldn't die because they can't afford housing.

>It's 2016, people shouldn't die ever.

lol the classic logical fallacy of the communist/socialist

why dont we just fix everything in the world
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>>72321001
fuck dominican
marry venezuela
kill mexican
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>>72321001
>>72322006
Kill, Marry (those fucking feet hell yes), Fuck
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>>72331110
depends on who you ask. It's something of a contentious issue because it can be hard to separate medical debt from other types of debt - if someone lists 'medical expenses' on their bankruptcy filing, it can mean they couldn't pay their hospital bills, or it could mean they had to take time off work because of illness. On the other hand, if someone has a $300k mortgage and $100k medical bills, their cause of bankruptcy might not be listed as medical even if they were perfectly able to pay their mortgage until they got an extra 100k worth of debt dumped on them by medical bills.

Some statistics say 2/3rds of bankruptcies are caused by hospital bills, or ~650k a year. The most detailed study, done by harvard in 2009, say closer to 50%. Others say 10-20%.

I'm inclined to say something like 40 - 50%, since although it might be hard to untangle court records, the debt collection industry's records are much more straight forward: ~40% of all debt recovered by third-party debt collectors was related to medical expenses. Clearly medical bills are a large chunk of the debt that Americans struggle to repay.
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>>72321001
Yes they should
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My father's a hard working man who made bad decisions in his youth and has had a history of bad luck.

I hope all you fuckers laughing at this have one of your family, or yourselves fucked over.

Fucking edgelords, what happened to this board?
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someone please tell me the venezuelan isn't just cherry picking the best
please.
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>>72321308
Why? You're just prolonging bad genes and contributing to overpopulation which would inevitably lead to wide spread poverty anyway.
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>>72333047
People are rightfully angry that they have to pay because other people that they'll never fucking meet make bad/stupid decisions and cannot take care of themselves.

Not that we would ever allow people to die like this, but it would save money and eliminate the losers who just can't hack it. The Government shouldn't be obligated to save you. Trying to have the Government fix every ill society, and people, have is the same kind of mindset that brought about the joys of Socialism/Communism.
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>>72321001
Sure, they don't. Federal law forces hospitals to treat patients if their life is at stake.
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>>72321790
hahaha fucking japan
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Do you want to know why American healthcare is the way it is? Why Americans don't have a government-run option like the rest of the civilized world?

Because American are optimists.

Or to put it another way, because Americans have delusional levels of self confidence. They would rather do without government-run healthcare and pay lower taxes so they can afford the latest iPhone, even though they're risking bankruptcy and possibly death if they get a serious injury or illness. Because they just don't really believe it could happen to them.

All the American documentaries which are pro government-run-healthcare always have someone in them who says something along the lines of 'I thought American healthcare was the best in the world - until I got sick'. Really? You only gave a thought to the shitty state of American healthcare after something bad happened to you? Well then, since you weren't willing to lift a finger to change it before you pretty much deserve to get fucked by system then don't you? That's personal responsibility for you right there.

So just remember this when you hear some smug shit libertarian going on about 'freedom' and 'self reliance' (because he secretly is under the impression that only niggers and spics and lazy people have problems with the current system): one day, you may get the opportunity to watch him get cancer only to find that his insurance company won't pay, or won't pay the full amount, BECAUSE THEIR WHOLE BUSINESS IS BASED PAYING OUT AS LITTLE FOR CARE AS POSSIBLE.

Then as he dies an agonising death, all the while knowing that his wife and children will be left destitute by his medical bills, you can tell him that he can at least take comfort in the fact that he was right, in a way - choices have consequences.

And in case you think that is purely hypothetical:
http://gawker.com/5840024/ron-pauls-campaign-manager-died-of-pneumonia-penniless-and-uninsured

Like the lottery says: 'It could be you.'
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>>72321001
Adults should be able to afford Healthcare. Their poor career choices have nothing to do with their neighbour.
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>>72321001
>For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat."
2 Thessalonians 3:10

Same applies to health care.
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>>72334029
No its because gov intervention has altered economic incentives causing prices to rise
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stop being a big fat fuck and you won't have to have visit a hospital probably until you're in your 60's
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>>72333285
She's particularly tall [Or at least appears so]. Most of the women are in the 5'-5'2 range. She looks at least 5'5.

They age about as well as your average mexican woman, though, which is to say- not too spectacularly.
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>>72321058
because it's [the current year]
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