So who is actually expected to win?
>inb4 "trump, because that's what I want to happen"
Objective opinion. Who is it gonna be?
I don't really follow the debate, but at least it seems to be ending with these two. Is there any other candidates that's gonna get in there?
>>72244808
Too early to tell since they haven't even debated each other yet.
Hillary atm has the better chance, but that's because Trump hasnt laid into her at all.
>>72244808
Trump's unfavorables are too high to win any demographic except white men, and that alone isn't a demographic that can win you the white house. Expect a Democrat landslide victory.
It really depends on what happens at the convention. If bernie concedes AND gives hill an endorsement its over.
I'm really doubtful of Trump winning.
"First Female President" gimmick is too good to pass up.
Hillary at the moment but I'm going to wait for the conventions happenings and the vice prez picks.
>>72244808
Hillary will win something like 65 to Trumps 35. But remember only about 54% of eligible Americans vote.
The reason is because Trump is just way too stupid to run a general campaign and Hillary has been in politics for decades. Winning an election is about convincing real people to vote and Trump only pushes and polarizes people who are angry and marginalized. Most Americans are generally happy and care free, but they don't get much attention. On voting day they will look at Trump as a rich fool with no experience and Hillary as a seasoned politician with a proven track record in politics and they will vote on this and this feature alone. Part of them will feel warm and fuzzy because finally a woman gets a chance, and these 2 facts are enough to give her a massive win.
If voting was mandatory and all Americans had to vote, trump would win about 80% of the 46% of those voters who never vote and therefore crush Hillary decisively because those people would simply vote out of frustration and try to be trolls.
>>72245739
The American people aren't interested in gimmicks. Obama didn't take the Whitehouse solely based on the platform of "first black president", he ran on the platform of " Change". First black president was just a stat boost for him that amplified how he supposedly represented something new in politics.
Clinton doesn't have that. Her one trait is that she's a woman politician who has been hanging around for literally DECADES waiting for the Washington establishment to annoint her president.
The people want someone to save them. Despite what the cheerful headlines say, America is in pain, suicides don't surge to a thirty year high for no reason and Hillary inevitably just offers America more of the same.
People don't want the same. Clinton is just another creature of the Obama regime, her candidacy is the equivalent of Donald Rumsfeld running for president.
I hope I'm wrong, but I think it will be a cakewalk for Hillary.
People are genuinely terrified of Trump and think he's Hitler.
>>72246353
>a proven track record in politics
The average person can't name a single thing accomplished by Hillary Clinton the politician. Hillary Clinton the brand only exists because she used to fuck Bill Clinton, not because she ever accomplished anything as a politician.
Hillary wins because its a selection not an election, also she is related king john of england just like every president elected
There are multiple ways of looking at it.
On one hand, Trump has repeatedly fought an uphill battle, against all odds, and won time after time. Conventional wisdom says that Hillary will probably win, but I think it's a mistake to underestimate the Don.
Trump also has the advantage of a mediocre-at-best Democrat president ending his 8 year term, which means the pendulum is swinging back in favor of Republicans this season.
Despite Trump's unfavorable ratings, Hillary has high unfavorable ratings as well. She has coasted to the nomination and hasn't taken any form of beating in the media, Trump and the Republicans will be quick to point out and smear her over Benghazi and her email scandal. As Trump said, we haven't even started on her yet.
We'll have to see what happens, I would not underestimate Trump, he's insanely competent at what he does. He beat out an overcrowded Republican field and survived every attack and smear thrown at him. Hillary is relatively untested and she will have to survive the attacks on her bad past decisions and scandals which will be thrown at her soon.
>>72248339
I agree, she had to ask a 74 year old fucking socialist to tone it down. How can she handle Donald fucking Trump if she can't handle the old communist? The main thing Trump has going for him is he hasn't painted himself as a "good christian guy" like most republicans and can resort to insult flinging like the dems always do
>>72244808
It's impossible to tell, but my money is on Trump regardless of what I want.
It's oft-stated that the general comes down to energizing the base and grabbing independents, so I'll look at it through that.
Energizing the base:
Traditionally, this is a defensive fight, in which you want to weather the attempts of the opposite to erode the support of your base.
Trump
>highly energized base
>months of attacks have done nothing to weaken support
Hillary
>average energy base
>Bernie rarely attacks, and only focuses on issues and morality (i.e. does not attack emotionally, like he should if he wanted to win)
Trump will hit Hillary much harder than she's been hit thus far, but Hillary can't do a fraction of the damage that the GOP has done to Trump.
Winning undecideds:
Trump
>has been drawing new members to the party from both the Dems and independents
>can appeal to anti-hillary spitevoters (to which issues do not matter)
>can appeal to bernie's anti-establishment voters (to which issues do not matter)
Hillary:
>can appeal to #NeverTrump
>can use the "first female" card
Other:
Trump
>looming civil lawsuits, which he will most likely win
Hillary
>looming crimes (which do not have to end in a guilty verdict to hurt her)
Unless Hillary can find a silver bullet by July, she's already lost.
Trump won't even be nominee. There's literally nothing in the Republican Party's rules that stops them from shifting th goalposts at the last second to block Trump even with the arbitrary minimum number of delegates. I bet they're banking hard on the system's intertia preventing the backlash from affecting them. Plus voters have short memories.
>>72248699
To be fair, Hillary's low energy base is also low information. The two cancel each other out effectively. They will dutifully go vote for her while not giving a shit about the news on her. It's how she's creaming Bernie right now. Her base is practically nowhere to be found, they just come out from under the cracks to go vote for her when it's time to vote. Bernie's supporters are always the loudest and most obnoxious which makes it look like he has the most support.
>>72249061
To deny Trump the nomination is to permanently destroy the Republican party. They are stuck between a rock and a hard place. To deny him the nomination would be the softest of those two hard places.
>>72244808
Who ever the 500 person electoral collage wants to win.
US is not a democracy.
>>72244808
Hillary doesn't know how to combat trump
>>72246353
>most americans are generally happy and carefree
i can think of at least two things wrong with that statement
>>72244808
Well according to the polls, its Hilary. But at the same time, the political scientists were completely wrong about Trump before. They said he had no chance of getting the nomination and now he is on the verge of winning it. At the very least, be cautious when reading anything that says that Trump is definitely going to lose.
The problem is that there are just too many factors in play. How will Bernie fans react after he is confirmed as losing. Will they move to the other democrat candidate or the other anti-establishment candidate? Will Hilary's health problems and FBI investigations shut her down later? Can Trump crush her in the debates like he did with Jeb?
>>72249074
You summed that up much better than I did, since I just tacked on "Bernie should be attacking emotionally"
>>72244808
There is no real way to tell until their first debate.
It all comes down to who can make the other look worse. Hillary will try for sexist-racist, while Trump will question Hilary's past decisions.
>>72249061
trump is the republican party's mcgovern
no matter what happens, the party will be changing its nominating system after this election
If Trump gets the nomination, I guarantee you that there will not be any mainstream news reports about terrorist attacks until december.
>>72244808
Hillary has too many strings to pull
I'm hopeful for Trump but I highly doubt he'll be able to pull through
>>72246353
>Trump only pushes and polarizes people who are angry and marginalized
>Most Americans are generally happy and care free
I think you're overestimating how hunky dory things are in the USA. The fact is that the majority of the American electorate is angry and disenfranchised.
This is on both sides of the aisle:
-White labor is pissed because all the jobs are going to Asia or to illegal immigrants
-Middle class is pissed because their wealth base is shrinking and their retirement is disappearing
-Old people are pissed because their healthcare and social security are messes
-Black people are pissed because they're in poverty and cops keep killing them (or that's the perception)
-College students are pissed because of absurd tuition costs and student loan debt
-People of many demographics are sick of Obama foreign policy
The American electorate has a laundry list of grievances that politicians have failed to address or in many cases even acknowledge.
>>72244808
Trump has Republican participation soaring up 40%; Clinton has Democrat participation down 20%.
Trump in a landslide.
>>72249445
She's already Crooked Hillary. She's done.
>>72244808
Personally i both wish and think Trump will win.
Theres so many people who got annoyed by all the political correctness considering everything about niggers and spics and foreign relations , so they want a change.
Trump is huge change (no conspiracy), but is it too late...
>>72244808
The people have smelt the blood with trumps own threats and videos like this out there and wont be satisfied until we get trumpa and hillar in a locked room where no one can cut the feed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrEpI94UzpA
Which is simply more proof of the ongoing damage control the media has ran for her since the fucking 90's
then you have someone in the media literally acknowledging and warning hillary of what we all are waiting for
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKZYUF-QkUM
This is a fun on as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vczoazK1mxU
The truth is as soon as you get them two in a room together with locked doors and no one to cut the feed it will literally be the first time she has been asked about these things without the ability to witch laugh and dodge her way out of the shit.
Here is another good one. trump could literally walk on stage and play this for 6 minutes straight.
It is Hillary admitting she got a child rapist off she believed should o never passed a poly graph and laughing about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2f13f2awK4
Any one who pretends that Hillary has been in a real debate is a shill
Depends if hilldog can turn out more anti trump voters than trump can pull in the bernie and republican votes.
Expect tons of mudslinging. Hilldog is a pro slinger and trump can spot mud and use it no matter the level of discourse
>>72250262
Hilldog has never had real mud slung that involved a competing politician in a room where the camera cant be cut
God help us all that this is the likely race and I hate both of them so fucking much. Both would fucking destroy the US, in different ways, for their own personal gain.
Too bad I am too broke to move out, because I don't want to see the destruction of all I hold dear when ether of them win.
Maybe I can claim to be a refugee and have Europe take me in or something.
>>72247328
>Obama didn't take the Whitehouse solely based on the platform of "first black president"
underage b&
>>72247328
>First black president was just a stat boost for him that amplified how he supposedly represented something new in politics.
It's not just that, it's also that the economy was in the process of collapsing under a Republican President. Any Democrat could have won against any Republican that year. It was possibly the worst year in history other than 1932 to run as a Republican.
>>72246353
>trump is just way too stupid
When will this meme die? Hasn't this entire race just gone to show you how fucking wrong that statement is or are you not paying attention?
>trump is gaining in popularity, but he'll never break the 15% barrier and pass jeb
>trump is gaining in popularity, but he'll never break the 20% barrier and pass carson
>trump is gaining in popularity, but he'll never break the 25% barrier and pass cruz
>trump is gaining in popularity, but he'll never break the 30% barrier
>trump is gaining in popularity, but he'll never break the 35% barrier
>trump is gaining in popularity, but he'll never break the 40% barrier
>trump is gaining in popularity, but 45% is his absolute highest in the polls, the unfavorability rating is too high
>trump is gaining in popularity with over 60% of the republican voters, but he'll never beat Hillary in the general
Just one more statement for Trump to prove wrong.
>>72245411
There are a lot of conservative women and people who don't like Hillary because of other topics. Tactical voting is a thing.
>>72250639
>>72247524
Everybody is Hitler depending on how you frame it.
Including Hillary.
I like Trump, but I don't think he'll win. I just hope he does
Hillary will probably win, sadly
>>72250812
THIS
or anyone even on 4chan to criticis what he does is straight entitlement as he has gotten farther than anyone ever thought he would and has proven he is smarter than all of us
>>72250262
That's where /pol/ comes in.
Hillary is going to be a deer in the headlights when she thinks she's just slinging mud with Trump and suddenly a mud tsunami is bearing down on her. Yeb and Rato were appetizers for the main course.
/pol/ can't call elections
>>72244808
>asks for opinions
>denigrates opinions before even getting them
If this weren't a blatantly political post I'd call you a massive faggot.
Everyone will say Hillary's chances are better, but wait till Trump comes out of the primaries before putting money on that.
>>72244808
i have no idea how hillary is gonna avoid getting brutalized by trump in debates
she has very little to offer policy-vise and her credibility will be smashed to pieces
>>72250639
Whats wrong berniecuck? Trump got you feelin down?
>>72244808
Current polls show Hillary with the lead, but two big things to look out for:
1) Trump v Hillary debates
2) The redistribution of support from the Sanders/GOPe bases.
>>72251356
>That predicted voter map on the left
Dumbasses
>>72251356
We sure as hell called the midterms
>le first black man runs most expensive ever campaign magic meme
how does that high feel like your coming down from?
Clinton. Betting odds have her up.
>>72251356
>Comparing 2012 /pol/ with 2016 /pol/
Everything that has made modern /pol/ itself happened after that election. We were amateurs who didn't even like Romney back then.
We are a representative democracy, not a direct democracy.
Don't no true Scotsman what democracy means.
>>72244808
It'll be a lot easier to tell the closer we get to Nov. Right now, Trump is focused on his voter base and the primaries. We'll see how well he does when he turns his attention to Clinton. I think he can wreck her reputation and come off as a whole helluva lot more intelligent than his critics would believe. Time will tell.
Either way, it's going to be a fun ride. Grab your popcorn and take a seat.
>>72244808
I say Hillary because the establishment is on her side and Trump has a high unfavourable rating.
But on the otherside Trump has a bunch of dirt he can dig on her.
>>72249322
>How will Bernie fans react after he is confirmed as losing
Personally I rather throw my vote away on a third party candidate then EVER vote for Hilary.
Bitch is fucking evil.
>>72244808
Hillary would be the safe bet. She has got too much shady support. Donald could still get it done but its a mountainous hill to climb.
I fully expect Hillary to win but if Donald narrows down some of his policies and beliefs to be consistent throughout the presidential race and he really truly lays into Hillary during the debates like he promised he would, he could change his national image to the true outsider contender in the race.
But again its going to be hard. Hillary already has the black and female votes locked up while butthurt constitutional purist conservatives who put their eggs in the Cruz basket like the Mark Levinfags probably wont vote for trump even to spite hillary! Meanwhile on the left bernie cucks at least know they have a duty to vote for hillary to stop the republicans. Its basically going to come down to how stubborn the republican party will be in their support for donald.
Gonna be an interesting race.
The people have smelt the blood with trumps own threats and videos like this out there and wont be satisfied until we get trumpa and hillar in a locked room where no one can cut the feed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrEpI94UzpA [Embed]
Which is simply more proof of the ongoing damage control the media has ran for her since the fucking 90's
then you have someone in the media literally acknowledging and warning hillary of what we all are waiting for
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKZYUF-QkUM [Embed]
This is a fun on as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vczoazK1mxU [Embed]
The truth is as soon as you get them two in a room together with locked doors and no one to cut the feed it will literally be the first time she has been asked about these things without the ability to witch laugh and dodge her way out of the shit.
Here is another good one. trump could literally walk on stage and play this for 6 minutes straight.
It is Hillary admitting she got a child rapist off she believed should o never passed a poly graph and laughing about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2f13f2awK4 [Embed]
Any one who pretends that Hillary has been in a real debate is a shill
Hillary has bagged imo. Bernie was the real obstacle.
So nothing new under the sun.
I was hoping for a Bernie win, failing that Trump.
Hillary vs Trump is already a sealed deal.
>>72252018
How would you feel about Bernie if he throws his support behind her? Not about how you'd vote you've already stated you'd never vote for her, but how would your opinion of him change if at all?
>>72249445
>Hillary will try for sexist-racist,
I already have heard stuff from her supporters like this.
Basicly it goes like this.
>Trump made rude comment towards one particular woman
>Hillary supporter makes it out like Trump made said comment about all women
>there for Trump be sexist
But even most women don't buy that shit and call it out for being stupid and manipulative.
Trump wins. For three issues alone:
Trade
Immigration
Guns
Hillary is too far left on these.
>>72252018
This. I would say that you have no idea how much I hate her, but I have a feeling you do, because you hate her as much as I do. It's just a matter of there not being words to express it. I would vote for Bernie over Hillary, and I detest socialism.
>>72252285
Except Hillary has never been in a debate without handicaps and is now only ten points ahead
Trump vs Hillary alone IMO Trump has a big edge.
Trump vs Hillary sucking Obama's cock and having him campaign for her then Im afraid Hillary has the edge.
Clinton is going to annihilate Trump.
I hope I'm wrong though.
Here's one way Hillary can guarantee a win
>Make Bernie her VP
>>72252018
>tfw Bernie and Hillary have voted similarly on virtually everything
Bernouts are easily the dumbest demographic.
>>72252387
I don't think those issues matter as much as you do.
I think he will lose because:
Way too radical and obsiously viewed as racist / sexist regardless of truth by many.
>>72245040
He's been tweeting about her for months now.
>>72245739
eh women don't operate on quite as much of a hive mind as black voters
many women HATE women
>>72252383
THIS
the best and scariest part for them is they have used every card already and there is probably not a single person in the country right now being looked at as closely and having their past vetted as hard as trump is as we speak were multiple organizations and million of dollars is being pumped against him.
calling him racist sexist and bringing up trump university is going to be stale as fuck as it is now in november
>>72252548
except many is not the majority m8 of which hes only 10 percent behind her and has not had a chance to debate her...you know the women that said Bernie was being to mean to debate
It'll be Hillary.
I feel more and more stupid every day when I realize I thought that this election cycle would be different. It's the same old turd with sparkly glitter covering it.
Hillary wins by a landslide, all of his shady shit just gets swept under the rug, Americans are angry but shrug their shoulders and think "Well, that's democracy for you, sometimes you win sometimes you lose".
>>72251340
Dickisdiamonds .jpg
>>72244808
Not believing in a Trump victory is a self-fulfilling prophecy and self-defeating.
>>72252461
I have no respect for Obama, but if he campaigns for Hillary I might actually start having negative respect for a human being for the first time in my life.
>>72252677
I think OP asked to give a real reason not just what you want to happen m8
>>72252672
Well I'm rooting for Trump, I'm just saying - that is how I see it.
>>72244808
Everyone with at least half a brain knows Hillary has been selected to be the next president. She's not a straight white male.
>>72252774
>a real reason
The reason has been stated over and over again in the thread already: Hillary, because Trump is merely a meme and when it comes time to vote people are going to go with the seasoned *female* politician.
And no, that's not what I wanted to have happen.
>>72252076
>and female votes
This can be dealt with.
Envy. It's the natural instinct of women when they see their superiors. They'll resort to the nastiest lows and backstabs to drag their competition through the mud.
By getting a Green Eye Meme off the ground, female votes can be subconsciously triggered to view Hillary as their own competition. Going a step further, Trump's handsome alpha male image could also be emphasized to sway their lower brains.
I think Hillary will win but the longer we keep Trump around for continual awakenings and otherwise butt blastings the better.
>>72244808
I don't care who wins, Iprobably won't vote. I just wanna see the debates. Should be entertaining.
>>72253208
*I probably
>>72251453
To be honest I actually hate Hillary, while I think trump is just completely incompetent.
Hillary will fuck everything up for her, and her cronies gain, on purpose.
Trump will just fuck everything up on epic levels, then cut his loses so at least he personally comes out of it fine. Even if the the rest of the country is in flames behind him (to indulge in hyperbole for a moment).
>>72247524
But that notion can be dispelled with a single google search
>>72249445
>Hillary will try for sexist-racist
I think her best avenue of attack is simply bringing Trump's political illiteracy to the surface. She knows world politics and he doesn't.
Bring up events and situations that he doesn't know about and understand, and basically stump him on TV.
The sexism/racism shit is only to energize her base. That's not her debate ammunition. Her debate ammunition is being a career politician versus a real estate mogul moonlighting as politician.
Her best weapon is to demonstrate how out of his element he is.
>>72245411
>Hillary atm has the better chance, but that's because Trump hasnt laid into her at all.
Nice try shill. We are on to you. We'll out you harder than Matt Drudge outed slick willy and Lewinsky.
>>72244808
Trump. You can see how America is starting to get fed up with the leftist bullshit a la "trans rights", "safe spaces", and other communist bullshit. We typically have one party lead for 2 presidential terms, then the pendulum swings back.
Trump will beat Hillary. Hillary is the establishment and the rise of Trump and Sanders says the people are pissed and done with mainstream politics and they want a change. The "never Trump" voters on the right aren't going to put up anyone else, because their best bet is to throw their vote away so the party can undemocratically select a different candidate from Trump who they don't want anyway.
Personally I'd rather have another 9/11 happen with Trump in office than 8 years of no war with Hillary.
>>72252076
>and female votes locked up
But every poll I look at show that most women don't actually like her.
>>72253448
But Trump has been right about world events 9 times out of 10. He called the Paris and Brussels attacks months before they happened. He opposed the Iraq war, but offered good solutions on how to use it to our advantage now that we were in it. He's right about China and Mexico. He's just been plain right about everything. It's because he's not a career politician that's so appealing. He's not beholden to any bigger entity like literally every career politician is.
I love the people that post RCP polling averages like they're going to be the voteshare on election day.
Trump was polling at 3% when he announced his candidacy late last June. That was 10 months ago, give or take. Now, he's at 43%.
Election day is 6 and a half months away.
A lot of things can change in 6 months...
>>72252921
Except that is not backed up but anythign but your opinion m8 as for this
The people have smelt the blood with trumps own threats and videos like this out there and wont be satisfied until we get trumpa and hillar in a locked room where no one can cut the feed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrEpI94UzpA [Embed]
Which is simply more proof of the ongoing damage control the media has ran for her since the fucking 90's
then you have someone in the media literally acknowledging and warning hillary of what we all are waiting for
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKZYUF-QkUM [Embed]
This is a fun on as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vczoazK1mxU [Embed]
The truth is as soon as you get them two in a room together with locked doors and no one to cut the feed it will literally be the first time she has been asked about these things without the ability to witch laugh and dodge her way out of the shit.
Here is another good one. trump could literally walk on stage and play this for 6 minutes straight.
It is Hillary admitting she got a child rapist off she believed should o never passed a poly graph and laughing about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2f13f2awK4 [Embed]
Any one who pretends that Hillary has been in a real debate is a shill
THIS is based in fact and something no one has ever forced the media to cover
not to mention
>season politician
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2oyxV6psrk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw8WIia47WE
>>72250087
Am I mistaken, or debates usually have moderators and questions? Does Trump have an avenue whereby he can "walk on stage and just play this" let alone bring it up organically without it sounding really contrived?
As far as I know, Hillary is one of the most hated politicians in America from all sides. But the fix has been in for months, she will be the next President. I assume most will vote for her because they hate Trump.
I want Trump to win personally, just to see what would happen, Hillary will just be a continuation of what's been happening with Obama.
>>72253448
That's a really easy one. Experience with politics can be equated with corruption and establishment puppetry.
>Only fresh blood has what it takes to really change things
>>72253890
If he wants to answer a question this way he has the option.
More realistically he will take out a prime time ad on tv
its basically gauranteed to be hillary, more of a toss up if cruz is the nominee
>>72253851
Hope you're right.
>>72247328
>The American people aren't interested in gimmicks
Trump's a fucking gimmick, retard.
>>72252315
>How would you feel about Bernie if he throws his support behind her?
That he is sacrificing what tiny little pride he has left for the party. Which would be sad.
While I would understand it from his position, it would still leave a bitter taste in my mouth.
>>72253019
Females vote based soley on what they see on facebook and other shit tier social media. They wont care if donald rips apart hillary in the debates, they will only listen to the memes about trumps hair and joke feminist accounts claiming he is a sexist for calling hillary a bad name or some shit.
You said it youself man its all about the memes. Just like with Obama, the democrats will get the young female vote because they just sit around making fun of the republican candidates on twitter together instead of actually challenging their beliefs
>>72244808
Hilary is the incumbent, but people haven't seen much of her yet.
You notice that? You see people talking about how wonderful Hilary is, but you don't see much of the woman herself. She's been kept hidden away.
I caught two of her rallies because she came on after someone else. It was really funny watching the people set up behind her get more and more horrified as she was speaking.
I've tried to find video of those rallies again after seeing her live, but they're not up anywhere that I could find.
I don't see her staying hidden through the general though. That will no longer be possible.
The more people see her speak and the more she's 'out there', the more people will hate her.
Trump will crush her after two months. By election day, it won't even be a contest.
LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS!
>>72253890
its easy to bring up watch
>Trump, is asked how he will stand up for womens rights compared to Hillary (insert shill pasta here) list of accomplishments?
well let me star by saying i will surly stand up for them better than she did for the little girl she allowed to be rail roaded and then laughed at
http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/234515/former-12-year-old-rape-victim-hillary-clinton-daniel-greenfield
he can even bring her on the campaign trail as she said she is interested
>>72247526
>used to fuck Bill Clinton
>USED TO
She a lez tho
>>72254043
What will you do when your monthly remittance checks from cousin Gregorio stop coming?
>>72254056
>Pride
You think Bernie has pride? His entire platform has essentially been begging for money. Don't get it twisted idiot. Bernie has been sucking blood from the working class his entire life and as one final fuck you to the brain dead masses he had them pay for his retirement. You think he's gonna give those donations back? He's spent only a fraction of what's been given to him.
>>72254215
laughed at for being raped* its all recorded and online I will link on my website
>>72244808
And forget Bill's help. He's dying of AIDS or some shit.
He's Trump's age, and looks like he's on death door. No way he helps her hack the campaign trail after the primaries.
Trump by slam dunk. Ship it.
Hillary will win if Trump continues being a radical, polarizing candidate. But here's something that may make Trump win.
If, when Trump gets the nomination, he starts to deradicalize (Appeal more to the moderates), then he's going to win.
Moderate voters are the group you want to win during the general election. For the primaries, you hype up your base, and Trump has done great with that. He's gotten it so that he has a clear majority support of his party, and that's guaranteed votes. The party voters will never change their party.
But the moderates, that's tricky. Moderates don't like Trump or Hilary, but would probably choose Hilary over Trump because moderates don't like radical candidates. If Trump can effectively water down his positions to appeal to moderates without betraying his core base, than he can win this election.
>>72252515
This must be bait because they have held vastly diffrent records on every major thing I can think of.
Wars
Financial regulation
Patriot Act
Globalization
Torture
LGBT rights (not that I really care)
Taxes
etc.
>Hillary becomes completely demented before winning
>Trump gets the position
>>72253770
>He called the Paris and Brussels attacks months before they happened.
Eh, doesn't take a genius. It would be like predicting that at some point in the near future a black person will commit a violent crime. Big whoop.
>He opposed the Iraq war, but offered good solutions on how to use it to our advantage now that we were in it.
So did I when I was 16.
>He's right about China and Mexico.
OK
It's not about what he's already "been right about", it's what he doesn't know, and it's what he doesn't know that he doesn't know. Clinton does politics and understands its intricacies better than Trump does or can at this point. Trump has gaps in his political and historical knowledge and if people see him stumble like he did when asked about a "nuclear triad", except multiple times, they will get uneasy.
>>72244808
Trump will win easily.
>>72254060
I have faith in /pol/s ability out-meme anything Hillary's soulless cronies can cook up.
Hillary.
/pol/ is a delusional 9 year old who gets random tantrums.
>>72254215
That actually just sounds crazy conspiracytard mode to me, despite it being true. I don't know if audiences would respond to him favorably for dropping some shit like that. It's low-key like Kerry 2004 running on a platform that 9/11 was an inside job.
It could work...I can't quite put my finger on it, but it sounds like it would be a bad move. Pointing one's finger and essentially being a tattle-tale could backfire.
His best bet is probably keeping that kind of shit off of TV and using social media to promote it.
>>72254624
Big whoop?...kek it shot him up in the polls thats good enough of a whoop for me as it just reaffirms people will take notice and appreciate that what you say was something of common knowledge was only ever said by one man with the balls to say it.
What you did when your 16 and even till today makes no difference in his point or the world in general kek
You cant name a single accomplishment of Hillaries and neither can their supporters
>>72253851
so the competent politician card is out not to mention George Washington out greatest president never was in politics and could not read as well as his wife
next to the fact Hillary has never been in areal no handicapped debate she will be quickly exposed in a environment she has never been before
>>72253707
I wonder what would happen if all the people who hate trump and all the people that hate Hillary voted for the same 3rd party candidate?
>>72254060
You want to talk about meme warfare? Trump is on the cutting edge... There's no way that you can tell me that rancid cunt will out-meme the God-Emperor... Not going to happen...
That said, I agree with what you say about the young female vote... I've personally experienced this and once presented with facts about how fucking deplorable Clinton and her actions have been, they've all changed their tune...
Like every inch of the internet is Trump hate. Is that even a problem?
>>72255215
We'd have a race where no one hits the threshold and the Republican house would pick whoever the fuck they want. Shitstorm unlike no other would ensue.
>>72255041
>i um...ii d ddont think that will work
no m8 America is a meme nation and this story has already been vetted and is not a conspiracy of any sort so much so the child has written a book about it and would of been sued for slander if it was not all provable.
Here read this again
http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/234515/former-12-year-old-rape-victim-hillary-clinton-daniel-greenfield
I think you need to be prepared because this is only one of many secrets of Hillary the media has NEVER been forced to report on
>>72255236
Are you serious, nigger? What the fuck are you talking about?
>>72244808
Cruz after he strips Trump of the nom at the convention.
You delusional retards actually think the RNC will allow Trump to be their nominee.
>nobody reads scott adams
>nobody has even taken a philosophy course
>nobody has ever taken a psychology course
How can you people pretend to understand what you're talking about ?
>>72255041
>calling out Hillary for laughing at a rape victim in a question about who stands up for women rights is tattle taling
>implying with that logic trump has not had the whole school including Hillary tattle tail on him for almost a year now and nothing has happend
>>72255352
Trump doesn't need to bring that out though, hannity for example claims to have amassed something like a thousand pages of notes and documents to thrash Hillary with when it's time
Trump needs to stay on message about wresting control of our country back from insider elitists
>>72254823
Don't believe everything that you read in the press.
https://youtu.be/FqRtFqoVW6k
>>72254266
>fraction
(Citation needed)
I read that he's spent 170 million out of 180 million
>>72254043
>nativism and fiscal moderatism are gimmicks
>>72250666
Pretty much every political analyst that isn't up whatever alt-right ass you possess will tell you that the Obama campaign played the race card sparingly.
>>72254365
>He's dying of AIDS or some shit.
Think of how much it'll boost Hillarys image when she's the first ever female widowed stronk president.
>>72245411
By that logic there will never be a conservative president anymore sibce minorities % will only increase.
>>72255549
Now your really seeming weird in your responses kek
trump will use everything at his disposal and thats why he will win, Hannities report is just icing on the cake whats undeniable tho is that line of questioning will be brought up and there would be no reason for trump not respond this way when ever the chance to tarnish that narrative arises unless he has even a more juicy back story to use via hannity
>>72255490
Thats a possibility but first trump has to fall short of the 1,237 delegates which at this point seems unlikely.
Kasich will probably steal more delegates away from trump at this point than cruz but its still a lost cause. Trump is the nominee
>>72255776
THIS is the narrative they are trying to sell you m8 good show noticing it
>>72244808
AWFUL! Unhinged #NeverTrump Thugs Pepper Spray Little Children at Trump Rally
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81prpYuObhQ
You are a straight up moron if you think anyone but Trump is going to get elected.
He's playing chess and thinking 12 moves ahead, and the rest are playing checkers.
He's running against a MUH VAGINA criminal sociopath and a commie jew who is only loved by 15 year olds.
Called it back in August that he's going all the way. My only regret is not betting money on it when his odds of winning were like 10,000 to 1.
>>72252554
And its helped Bernie
>>72252554
For ages Trump has said 'I haven't even started on Hillary yet'. Honestly I think it'll start in the weeks to come but it hasn't properly started yet.
>>72254266
>you think he's gonna give those donations back?
No, just like any other candidate
>fraction
He's used almost all of it
Also I don't think you understand that the Clinton machine would murder Bernie if he didn't endorse her. It's gonna be sad when he does, but I understand why.
>>72246353
>Hurr durr, Trump has no experience so he will lose
That's funny, because that's exactly what "experts" said when he began his campaign, and now he's killing every other candidate. Australian shitposting at it's finest.
>>72254266
>You think Bernie has pride?
Only a VERY small amount.
Must take at least some to hold so strongly to his convictions for so long.
Which is why it would be so sad to see a old man of integrity give up the very last of it for a piece of shit like Hillary.
>His entire platform has essentially been begging for money.
Kind of a different point all together. Besides all politicians beg for money. It is REQUIRED in modern politics unless you are a billionaire.
>>72255909
THIS
ask him when he tweeted about any of this
>72253851
>>72252564
Women don't operate on a hivemind. The majority do.
>>72249061
Denying Trump the nomination would probably ruin the GOP for decades, if not forever. It would explicitly confirm that the GOP doesn't actually care about democracy for even the dumbest of Americans, and tear a huge chunk of the conservative vote asunder.
Letting him through and even, say, undersupporting him to throw it to Hillary (if they consider her preferable) for 4-8 years. Same if they let him get into office. But that beats the party breaking.
The people have smelt the blood with trumps own threats and videos like this out there and wont be satisfied until we get trumpa and hillar in a locked room where no one can cut the feed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrEpI94UzpA [Embed] [Embed]
Which is simply more proof of the ongoing damage control the media has ran for her since the fucking 90's
then you have someone in the media literally acknowledging and warning hillary of what we all are waiting for
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKZYUF-QkUM [Embed] [Embed]
This is a fun on as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vczoazK1mxU [Embed] [Embed]
The truth is as soon as you get them two in a room together with locked doors and no one to cut the feed it will literally be the first time she has been asked about these things without the ability to witch laugh and dodge her way out of the shit.
Here is another good one. trump could literally walk on stage and play this for 6 minutes straight.
It is Hillary admitting she got a child rapist off she believed should o never passed a poly graph and laughing about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2f13f2awK4 [Embed] [Embed]
>>72255822
Neger, I'm just saying by that logic. I know there are a lot more voting trump than just white men. A lot of latino's know they won't suddenly get kicked out by trump, and they are still catholics.
>>72254043
I'll tell you what isn't a gimmick, the wall... Sure sucks when you can't send your fucking garbage poison here, thus eliminating your only valuable , albeit illegal, export... Fuck your degenerate country, fuck your anchor babies, and fuck your hypocritical government... Illegal wetbacks are not welcome here, you criminal fucking spic
>>72255969
When you say murder, do you mean actually assassinate?
@72249979
Fucking racist
>>72254043
>Afraid that Trump's wall and mass deportation will stop his relatives from sucking money from the system
Top kek
>>72256243
Whoa man i was agreeing with you that his narrative is trash because of the shit you said
this is why we have /int/ this multicultural shit dont work because you all want to play American meme culture online
>>72256359
Make dead
>>72244808
I think some of the Bernie supporters may vote for Trump, or not vote at all because of their disgust for Hillary. This is going to be a very tough election this year and I really hope Trump wins. I feel like it would be much easier to persuade the Bernie people to vote for Trump over the die hard Hillary fans. That's just my opinion.
>>72256400
Sorry kerel, you made it sound a bit sarcastic.
I predict that Hillary will win unless some serious new shit comes out about her, or she is indicted.
Trump is slowly moving further and further to the left, alienating some of his already too small to win in the General base.
>72249979
Fucking racist
>"I haven't even started on her yet"
Even if he loses he will at least embarrass the shit out if her for a few months. Maybe she'll even cry on TV again
>>72249979
Fucking racist
>>72256264
You guys know that there will actually be a wall, right? It's just hyperbole, how do you not realize that?
>>72256375
>>72256601
>>72256692
So that's how you reply
>>72256375
You can spot her shills a mile away.
Pathetic.
Whomever the electoral college votes for.
>>72247526
>The average person can't name a single thing accomplished by Hillary Clinton the politician.
I can't think of a single thing she has accomplished either. If anything, she has fucked up the middle east even more with her shitty policies.
>>72256729
Yes there will be a wall
>>72256778
What the fuck is a shill? Also I'm a him.
>>72256734
>doesn't know how to 4chan
>posting on /pol/
Shouldn't you be on /b/? Thats the beginner board
>>72256910
reddit newfag confirmed
>>72256375
>>72256601
2 FUCKING LEAFS... No one cares about what you cucked faggots have to say about our country... Go back to worshiping DUDE WEED man and your disgusting immigration policy...
After we take care of the Mexican border, we're coming after you ISIS-supporting fuckers
>>72255200
You're arguing against the minutia of my posts with a pro-Trump bias instead of attacking my central point, which I've reiterated.
Please consider reading and responding to the last paragraph of >>72254624 instead of simply telling me how much you really like Trump. Keep in mind that the point of this thread was to be objective about his chances, not be a Trump general thread.
>>72253973
That's not the most compelling spin because it can still be used as an argument against you. Not bad, though, I'd rate it a B-, myself. I would come back at that by saying that fresh blood should seek a mayorship or a seat on congress and that handing the keys to the greatest country in the world and its military, to a relative newb is like handing the keys to a Lambo to a well-meaning teenager with no driver's license. We have to ask ourselves if such recklessness is the only way to address the concerns our country is facing.
>>72256933
This one I like better because you can see what countries you live in
>>72244808
> So who is actually expected to win?
According to the betting markets, Hillary is strongly expected to win.
If you bet £1 on Hillary and she wins, you'll get £1.33 (which includes your original £1 back).
If you bet £1 on Trump and he wins, you'll get £4.50 (which includes your original £1 back).
(Ratboy will get you about £21, in case you're feeling lucky.)
Historically, the betting markets have been quite good at predicting the winner. People are putting cold hard cash on the line, so they have a strong incentive to apply a sober, neutral, and realistic assessment of the race.
Source:
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2016/winner
>>72256910
How much are you getting paid, faggot?
>>72244808
trump should get all of the bernie supporters
they chose the wrong meme candidate
trump-kun will take the big gold
>>72256986
I usually use 9gag, fuck reddit
>>72244808
The mainstream media will tell you Hillary but in reality it will be trump
She is too easy of a target, if he brings up even half of her scandals she's going to get schlonged
>>72256999
WOW wtf, racist much
>>72257049
If you live in Canada why do you think you have a valid opinion on US politics you fucking leaf
>>72256899
I meant to say there won't be one my speech to text app is new, and untrained so it didn't catch what I said
>>72257071
Minimum wage
>>72256478
>I feel like it would be much easier to persuade the Bernie people to vote for Trump
How the fuck would that work?
>>72257195
Because people have opinions.....
>>72256910
>>72256734
>>72256692
>>72256601
>>72256375
Kill yourself. I'm not joking or being ironic. Fucking kill yourself.
>>72257113
Underage cuck liberal spotted.
Go back to le upvotes and Trump bashing, faggot
>>72256999
ur country a shit
>>72257250
Non-Americans don't
>>72256729
Oh yes, there will be a wall.. It's not hyperbole.. Walls work, and this will be the grandest, most luxurious wall you've ever laid eyes upon, believe me folks
>>72257272
XD AS IF!
>>72256657
Can cold blooded reptilians cry?
>TRUMP AIRS A SPECIAL ON MEGYN KELLY'S SHOW WHERE ALL THE VICTIMS OF BILL CLINTON RAPE ARE INTERVIEWED FOR 2 HOURS
>HILLARY BTFO
>TRUMP AIRS A SPECIAL ON CNN WITH DANNEY WILLIAMS, BILL'S ILLEGITIMATE BLACK SON
>HILLARY BTFO
>TRUMP GETS PATREUS
>BTFOS HILLARY ON BENGHAZI AND EMAILS
>TRUMP GETS MONICA LEWINSKY ENDORSEMENT
>GETS HER IN A DEBATE
>BRINGS UP FUCKING EVERYTHING AS PER ROGER STONE'S BOOK
THIS NIGGA KNOWS THE CLINTON'S DAWG.
https://youtu.be/BAKYvvM6IpE?t=9s
https://youtu.be/BAKYvvM6IpE?t=9s
https://youtu.be/BAKYvvM6IpE?t=9s
LOOK AT THE STACK OF BOOKS NEXT TO THIS FUCKING TROPHY THING
'CLINTON CASH'
HILLARY WILL GET SCHLONGED.
>>72244808
Trump becaus cruz is going to prove that wemon are being used as tools in politics.
>>72244808
I am tempted to say Shillary
>however
People have been doubting Trump the whole fucking way. If you would have been watching amerifat TV.. you would have thought Trump was doomed when he started. So
>I really dont know
I think Shill has already bought the process... but Trump has some power on his side.
>who I want
Shill... Just because the next president will be blamed for the worst economic crash in the history of mankind. Lets give it to the she bitch
>>72257027
Sorry m8 yhe only thing in the way of objective evidence posted here is >>72250087
Hillary has never been in a televised debate without handicaps and anyone willing to bring this up so says the liberal media even.
She is yen points ahead of him and she has no newmaterial after the cash blow to stump him already tried everyrthing
This is all objectivly why hillary is dead in the water
>>72257277
WOW WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK, is this what I'm in for on this site? Dick
Hillary, because she's who the Powers have chosen.
>The year
>Believing we're actually democratic
>Thinking your vote matters
>>72257304
Yes we do were all human, plus Canada is culturally identical to America and we're next to you so your politics matter to us.
>>72257286
Nice job, you fucking frog... You can't even to English
>>72257496
You clearly don't belong here newfag.
>>72257202
So ur opinion is disregarded
>>72257519
>tfw somehow Democrats always manage to get votes from beyond the grave
>>72257618
I'm in awe any of you support Trump he's so racist why wouldn't you bash him? Also I'm 19 I'm not underage.
>>72247526
Senator and secretary of state.
Position is all that matters bud
>>72248699
Since 2008, independents haven't been enough to swing an election, the country has become too polarized. Romney got something like 60% of the independent vote and still lost badly
Trump seems to be way better at energizing his base and is breaking records for voter turnout. Bernie is also good at energizing his base but Hillary isnt
>>72257594
From the posts I read here im 100% not human, maybe some autistic subhuman race but definitely not human. Just read your own posts.
>>72257783
>Trump is racist
Prove it.
I'm biased, but I think that Trump is significantly more dynamic, flexible and strategic than Hillary who is held back by all kinds of donors and interests which support her, so he will have a lot of room for manoeuvre. This gives him much more of an edge and a potential for landslide than the already weakened Democratic side who are tired from 8 years of expended optimism wasted on Obama. Demographically Trump is behind, and he has a lot to overcome in terms of financcial, media and even academic centres of power who will likely wheel in to block him as best they can - but considering they've already shot their Hitler wad it's going to be hard for them too. He's learned a lot and each attack only strengthens his ability to defend against them. If Hillary wins, it will be a pathetic victory where she barely held on.
>>72257783
You don't belong here.
>>72257861
dont feed the millennial failure m8
>>72257414
Why? What crash?
>>72256003
>That's funny, because that's exactly what "experts" said when he began his campaign
That's what everybody said about Obama too.
>>72257861
He didn't disavow an endorsement by the KKK
He needs to change up to won the general, which I think he will. He needs hammer home the "I can't be bought" concept. I think that should be the centerpiece of his campaign over immigration and trade, even as good as his ideas in those areas are. Deep down most Americans know the system is a joke right now because of all the money changing hands, Trump is the ONLY solution to that. If America elected conservative billionaires until the end of time we would much better off
>>72258004
This. The principles of warfare do not only apply to the battlefield. Trump has the greater maneuver, and will be able to effectively achieve mass and break the concentration of Hillary's support.
>>72252548
What the fuck do you think you know about american culture and psyche?
Your country censors your internet, you don't know shit about us, swedecuck
>>72257855
Why are you not 100% human?
>>72258220
>HE DIDN'T DISAVOW, HE'S RACIST
Guilty by association is a shit argument, and it doesn't prove shit. You can do better.
>>72258052
He won't learn the truth anywhere else in his liberal circlejerk
>>72258220
He did so much so the media got btfo as he did to a day prior to the cnn interview its on video
Next?
>>72257783
>he's so racist
Post anything he has said that directly confirms that he is actually racist.
I would settle for just one clear example of him personalty saying something racist.
>>72258220
LEAF
he was never endorsed by the KKK or DD.
>>72244808
I've never seen a republican get youth support the way Trump has right now. Judging by the way things look and the direction things are going, I honestly think Trump will win
>>72258220
>Donald can you answer questions about the KKK so we can put your name and KKK in the same sentence as many times as possible
>no fuck off
I'd say its 66-33 in Hillary's favour.
>>72257147
>She is too easy of a target, if he brings up even half of her scandals she's going to get schlonged
But the repubs have been screaming every day for years about her scandals, and she's still polling better than Trump.
If Trump mentions something like Benghazi, that will just make a lot of eyes roll about how he's beating the decomposed remains of a long-dead horse yet again. It won't change any minds at all, because people's minds were made up a long time ago.
The fact that Hillary is still alive shows that she's been able to withstand all the shit the repubs have been throwing at her for the past 24 years. That's actually a very important asset for her. In fact, that's THE big reason why Sanders is so much riskier than Hillary -- Hillary is by far the most battle-tested candidate in history, but Sanders hasn't even begun to face those battles yet.
What didn't kill Hillary only made her stronger. Republicans are the ones who actually made Hillary strong.
>>72257230
>How the fuck would that work?
Remind them that Clinton is 1) a war warmonger and had shitty foreign policies that created a bigger mess in the middle east, 2) she's got all the big corporations funding her campaign, 3) she supports the banks
>>72258565
Thats what the old black lady at my polling station in baltimore said. She was a pretty based democrat not used to seeing that many people
>>72258406
>>72258413
>>72258464
He also can't answer questions for shit. He repeats himself so much. ''He started it'' are you fucking kidding me? He's a literal child.
Also he didn't disavow right away when he should have and after being pushed he finally did.
>>72258513
Proof?
At least whoever wins will be an aryan
>>72258672
See
Hillary has never dealt with a real debate and never had her past brought m8 your talkng about highly poltical cuckservative pleasantries all of which trump does not posses hence the liberal media is warning her.
Hillary has alwasy been shielded you have no counter to this
>>72258759
You can't prove he's racist, so you attack his character instead.
0/10, you just proved you don't know shit about the election, or the candidate.
>>72258759
>a literal child
>literal
DUDE
>>72258644
David Duke endorsed him as far as I know and he didn't disavow right away. The only thing I'll agree with you bigots on is his stance on muslims is NOT racist because Islam is not a race. People on my side of the political spectrum don't seem to understand that.
>>72244808
There are a lot of factors influencing it which is why I'm writing a book about it, but the most basic factors are:
-Hillary's criminal history, the bulk of politicians manage to get to the presidency looking relatively clean while Hillary is running with an ongoing investigation. She looks dirty as fuck.
-Trump's willingness to attack every weakness she has. Cruz and Kasich and Sanders have all generally avoided attacking Hillary or say they will avoid attacking her on anything but the issues. Trump will not, Trump will constantly attack her character and mannerisms and link it all back to the criminality and lying she engages in.
-Hillary has no soul. Everything about her is fake and unlike Cruz she's much worse at faking it.
-Both of them are rich. In 2012 this was also the case, but Obama made himself out to be the man of the people while Romney was left stuttering like an idiot over his comments on how much he hates non-taxpayers or how his company engaged in outsourcing or how he was a rich guy. Trump will do the same thing to Hillary that Hillary did to Romney because Trump OWNS his wealth and positions himself as a Batman figure, using his power to help everyone.
-Hillary wins in red states. The blacks love her, whites not so much. In the general the Democrats need those blue states and need those working class whites to win. Trump takes the working class whites, while the middle class whites who vote Bernie in places like Rhode Island and Michigan won't vote, making a wide swathe of safe blue states into purple states and purple states into red states.
-Hillary doesn't turn out new voters. Between 2012 and now an estimated 7 million voters who voted in 2012 have died. In order to win you need to get new people engaged in order to replace all your old voters dying. Bernie gets new voters to sign up, Hillary doesn't and Hillary will lose working class voters to Trump in the general. Trump gets tons to sign up. This is bad for Hillary.
>>72244808
>Objective opinion. Who is it gonna be?
Trump will win.
Reason: he's got the knack for politics and she doesn't.
The TL;DR version is that Trump gains in polls over time while Hillary slides in polls over time.
When they face off you'll have one candidate who went from being a joke to being the nominee, all while barely spending any money. The other candidate will have spent huge quantities to have gained the democratic nomination on her second try and who spent a record quantity of money campaigning for a senate seat against an obscure nobody in NY. .
The underlying problem for Hillary: She isn't a natural politician. Her career exists because her husband (perhaps the most skilled politician of our era) set her up with a senate seat and then wrested a secretary of state appointment out of Obama.
>>72258791
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XUvSzaxMic
>>72258946
I'm a nazi, and I support you as a poster.
If you don't disavow within 10 seconds, that proves that your a nazi just like me.
That's how stupid you sound.
>>72258895
I answered you after at the bottom. Also you can't deny his character is fucked up. He repeats himself ALL THE TIME.
>>72258929
My bad, ACTS like a literal child.
>>72258004
>He's learned a lot and each attack only strengthens his ability to defend against them.
THE STRONGEST SUPER SAIYAN
>If Hillary wins, it will be a pathetic victory where she barely held on.
It should also be noted a recession will most likely occur in the near future and on top of Trump completely fucking destroying Hillary even if he loses it will be by maybe 1% of the vote. Hillary will be a 1 term president if she manages to win.
>>72259137
>Also you can't deny his character is fucked up. He repeats himself ALL THE TIME.
Bernie stutters all the time, and is slow to respond, so obviously he's mentally challenged.
You have the worst fucking arguments I've ever seen. Attacking someones character is the lowest form of debate.
>>72245411
White men vote the most though, and are the majority of the country. Trump has also clearly negotiated with jews to maintain his position, I believe he has timed his daughter's pregnancy in line with his presidential race. It's no coincidence that she had a jewish kid as he was running, shortly after the kikes let up on the "rayciss" card. You will notice he surrounds himself with the enemy, although I suspect he has utter contempt for them. A man that successful knows the enemy needs to be pampered and infiltrated, there is simply no other way.
As for policy matters, Trump is obviously doing whatever it takes to win. His nationalist rhetoric is useful, and it's the axiom through which an anti jewish movement will bore itself in the long run. Nationalism is a platform on which to recognize parasitic organizations and people.
Normally I'd just assume he'd be another jewish shill, but his moves to placate the jews have been too calculated so far. I suspect he is working to ultimately undermine them, and if nothing else, to expose their dealings. He has already forced them to show their hand by predominantly being anti Trump and shilling too hard on the public. Trump has effectively turned millions against the media and "establishment", which is really just another word for oligarch billionaire jews. The useful idiot jews like Shapiro have also played a role, in embarrassing themselves and exposing their lies and deceit.
Trump is not your magical solution to jewish hegemony, but he's the first step. In fact his speeches and influence are what drove me to learn more about secular ashkenazim jews and their influence in the world. The fire has indeed risen, soon more subversive organizations will form to take control of media and rally against jewish control.
>>72258946
>you bigots
Leave /pol/ now. If you're gonna bother with words like "bigot" or "racist" here you've already lost.
Liberals exist here but you need to learn to play the game
>>72244808
Honestly, it might be Hillary. But I believe it will be Trump because too many people are sick of Hillary and refuse to vote for her if she beats Sanders. Trump and Sanders share the anti-establishment angle, while Hillary is firmly cast as establishment.
>>72258673
Hillary being shit does not automatically mean they will vote Trump like you seem to believe.
They still have the option of throwing their vote away with a 3 party or just plain not voting at all.
Many hate Trump just as much as they hate Hillary.
You would have to explain why Trump would/should be appealing to someone who supports Bernie.
>>72259137
No m8 not only would that still not make him racist its wrong he is on video di>>72244808
savowing him a day befor cnn
>>72255776
Welcome to reality
I support Trump and even I didn't expect the landslide victory that was last night. I don't know if he can or can't beat Hillary but it sure is going to be a hell of a ride regardless. What a time to be alive.
>>72259477
Because hillary cheated him
Aa long as hillary doss not get the vots trump wins his base is more energized
>>72250639
>needs to run from his country instead of fighting for it
As bad as the rapefugees and Mexicans.
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