Who is the greatest philosopher ever to have existed and why is it this man?
>philosopher
You're that same fucking retarded ancap britcuck from yesterday, aren't you?
Fuck off and kys.
>>72235331
Typical emotional, non-argument response. I couldn't have expected much more from a statist.
>>72235233
Its not Molyneax, kike, liar and market worshipper, if that is what you mean. Great he's skeptical of Israel. So?
>>72235437
>statist
Exactly this. To molyneaux, anyone who isnt buttmad about taxes is a statist.
If anyone on this board was older than 15, they would have remembered his videos not a year ago were just
>STATIST STATIST STATIST STATIST STATIST STATIST STATIST SHEEPLE SHEEPLE SHEEPLE SHEEPLE SHEEPLE SHEEPLE WILLFULLY IGNORANT WILLFULLY IGNORANT WILLFULLY IGNORANT
Only recently has he asked a few questions about israel And now hes the best philosopher in the world? Topkek if there ever was one
>>72235331
NOT
>>72235783
SHEEPLE
STATIST
WILLFULLY IGNORANT
>>72235233
>if you have different beliefs about what constitutes property rights you basically want to literally kill me! Defoo demon! Fuck you mom woman are evil Stefans my new dad I donated my whole allowance to him! He told me I'm a coward and hate virtue if I didn't! I'm never talking to you again because you think people owe some portion of their earning to society for the infrastructure and military they benefit from which means you're a statist whore and want to kill me!
The greatest philosopher of all time, ladies and gentlemen.
>>72235233
PHILOSOPHASTER
even libtardarians distance themselves form mollypoo
mises.org/library/molyneux-problem
This guy looks like a faggot
>>72235437
Not an argument
>>72235437
>emotional
Are you really this stupid, or is this bait? Me telling you to fuck off is not emotion.
>non-argument response
You stupid nigger. You've never once made an argument in these threads. More to the point, you've displayed a clear lack of an ability to even think for yourself. Literally all you do is repeat shit you hear from this guy and expect it to carry you through the day.
"Not an argument" was something I once appreciated, but HOLY SHIT HAS /pol/ RUINED IT FOR ME. You morons use it as a shield to avoid having to respond to criticism. THAT'S NOT HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK.
>>72236533
Calling me a "stupid nigger" is not an argument. I only use "not an argument" when someone says something that isn't an argument. In this case, that applies to you.
So, not an argument.
>>72236890
>I only use "not an argument" when someone says something that isn't an argument
Wow except that you're full of shit. I was in your last thread. You offered no arguments, you had nothing to contribute. Literally the only thing you can do is shitpost pictures of this guy and then cry "muh not an argument" when someone tells you to fuck off. Nobody is impressed with that.
>>72237017
"I must
admit that I am always skeptical when a review starts with insults - when I
studied acting and playwriting at the National Theatre School in Montréal, I
was always told to "show it, don't say it!" If my arguments are illogical,
showing this will surely reveal my incompetence - the insults are unnecessary.
The logical fallacy involved is called "poisoning the well."
-Stefan Molyneux
>>72237017
not an argument
>>72235233
NOT AN ARGUEMENT!
>>72237133
Not an argument
>>72237101
You're not making an argument. You are parroting a buzzword/slogan that you heard from someone else. I would rather you use insults than that. I would have far more respect for you if you did, but no. You found a guy who says things you agree with, and now you want to put him on a pedestal to make yourself look better in connection to him. It's pathetic.
>>72237133
kys.
>>72237380
Start forming a rational argument whenever.
>>72237469
That image ain't an argument either, you brainless fuck. God I can't stand you. You are the lowest form of life on this planet. You have forfeit the use of your mental facilities and replaced it with thoughtless slogans and buzzwords. You know nothing about arguments, empirical data, or research. You're just a kiddo with an idol who you take far too seriously.
>>72237584
>Not an argument
What do you guys think of based Bill Whittle?
Is he red pilled?
>>72237629
>you brainless fuck. God I can't stand you. You are the lowest form of life on this planet
Such hypocrisy. You are incapable of forming a rational argument it appears.
An ad-hominem does not an intellectual make.
>>72235233
im not quite sure what his views are anymore
he started of as an anarcap didnt he?
>>72237584
Wow Germany you're right we should just important a hundred thousand mudshits with no background checks like you guys do.
>>72237584
>Cherrypicking at its finest.
>>72237629
not an argument
>>72237783
Why the fuck would I come on /pol/ to try to make myself look like an intellectual? Okay, seriously YOU tell ME. Why would any legitimately intelligent person come on here and try to prove to /pol/ how smart they are? I have no interest in that crap. I come on here for entertainment, and that means calling out bullshit when I see it.
Your buzzword threads about this guy are the most bullshit thing I have ever seen on this board. It's one thing to be a slogan-loving memelord, but it's another thing entirely to pretend that it makes you more intelligent. THAT is the shit I cannot stand.
Why do people say 'not an argument' when there's threads about this guy?
>>72237767
He's annoying as shit to listen to
>>72237629
not an argument
>>72238003
not an argument
I have a feeling my philosophy professor worships this guy.
>>72235233
Is someone going to explain who this is?
>>72238186
not an argument
>>72238186
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7XJIioZEgQ
Guy whose mom beat him. crazy cult leader who just needs one dollar donation. freedom aint free.
>>72235233
>>72235233
Not
>>72235233
An
>>72238138
That video about some guy's gf supporting immigration was cringey as fuck. Molyneux pretty much got btfo by some guys delusional gf lol.
>>72235233
It's Plato.
>>72235233
Argument
>>72235437
dee-foo yourself from life my friend
>>72235233
Fuck
stop posting this shit mike.
has anyone else notice how this snake-oil seller suddenly only makes current topic videos? guess he released that all those 1 dollar donations are not profitable enough
>>72238497
>PLATO
AHAHHAHAAGHAGAHAH
>being this much of a faggot
>inb4 Bernie supporter
Aristotle>Plato
>>72238311
>3:10
there it is
>>72238043
>>72238060
>>72238223
your an idiot, but we already knew that.
The meme, is pointing out when someone makes an assertion (a claim lacking either evidence or a logical chain from premise to conclusion) rather than an argument,
It's not just randomly saying not an argument to things you disagree with, it's attempting to point out that most people do not even know what an argument is, let alone do they know a good argument from a bad one.
Thanks for being a perfect example of exactly what the not an argument meme, is attempting to call attention to, people who lack the ability to think, but like to pretend they can.
Again, thanks for the laugh.
>>72238844
not an argument
>>72238844
Start arguing anytime
>>72238844
not an argument
>>72238844
I believe this is not an argument sir.
>>72238844
Did your mother spank you when you were younger?
>>72237767
red pilled , but weird voice. love the guy
>>72238994
>>72239048
>>72239076
>>72239093
>These posts
>These flags
>And the rest of the world calls us Americans dumb
YOUR HOUSE
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>>72238844
does not equate to an argument
I have only once made a prayer to God, and it was a short one "oh Lord, please make my enemies not give arguments" And it was granted.
>>72237767
Enjoy his commentary, very rarely actually brings anything new to the table though.
>>72239211
kys weebshit
>>72239211
Dude, could you please start arguing? If you don't have any arguments then I believe I'll have to cut you off their and move on to the next caller.
Stefan is fucking mental. Literally insane.
>>72239211
>Falling for the bait
>Thinking you're intelligent
>Taking 4chan post seriously
Well, our point really is proven then.
>>72239439
>>72235233
the guy is absolutely nuts, stark raving mad. you dont even need to listen to his schizoid ramblings, just observe the crazy look in his eyes. he would stab you then pretend like he is saving western civilization.
>>72239430
He's apparently trans too,
>>72239519
Turn off your computer for today Jamal.
>>72239211
>provides 0 (zero) arguments
>expects to be taken seriously
>>72235233
It's funny you mentioned that because he really is starting to look and act more and more like an actual philosopher by the day
He's been neglecting his physical appearance and questions his own beliefs he was once firm on
>>72239519
>mémés
>literally not an argument
Ok sorry, but that's enough. This is
>NOT
>AN
>ARGUMENT
>>72239212
spookiest vid of 2016
>>72239211
see pole argument
>>72239519
The fact you have this saved shows you're used to posting it whenever you get triggered by bait and you get called out. Pathetic sperglord weeb shit
Regardless of how you feel about molyneux, I like some of his stuff, but he's not a great philosopher. I'd say Thomas Aquinas, Augustine of Hippo, Soren Kierkegaard, and Nietchze were some of the greatest.
>>72239706
schizophrenia tends to do that.
He can't argue against nihilism, his points are invalid to me
>>72239910
cool story bro. Any arguments you'd like to share?
>>72235233
Not an argument.
>>72240002
Is this you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7CjHg9CV8o
>>72239387
>>72239631
>>72239718
>Not an argument
Anons...
>>72240002
Nihilism is self defeating. It's a paradox.
>>72235233
That honor goes to Marcus Aurelius
>>72240114
>literally incapable of producing a valid argument
>resorts to memeing
I have won this debate.
>>72240114
That's a nice pyramid you have there.
It'd be great if you'd add some kind of arguments.
>>72240080
Nope, but I'll give it a listen.
>>72240178
It really isn't, its the fact that nihilism represents reality.
>>72240286
Here are all of your posts in this thread.
Show me the argument, kiddo.
>>72238561
>>72239303
>>72239631
>>72239303
It's new if you are unfamiliar with the conservative view, which is very good for convincing people that progressives are cancer
>>72239234
>>72240328
Here's your argument, Anon.
HAPPENING
HAPPENING
HAPPENING
HAPPENING
>>72235233
he's a great educator not a philosopher
Can you show me his talks on Ethics, Metaphysics and Reason? I'm sick of hearing political philosophers
>>72240361
It's totally self-defeating self-proclaimed Nihilists just don't care because Nihilism is the death of philosophy and literally not an argument. It doesn't agree with concepts like paradoxs or foundations of logic.
>>72236533
>>72237629
>>72238003
>>72239211
>>72239519
>>72240114
>>72240445
>>72240577
>NOT
>A
>SINGLE
>ARGUMENT
>tries to argue
>fails miserably
>gets called out
>starts memeing
>fails
>gets called out
>posts weeb shit
>basically gave up
>>72240595
Why hasn't this happened yet? Trump calls in Michael Savage show every week. He even spoke with Alex Jones.
He should finally present An Argument for Stefan.
>>72240002
>>72240080
pretty rich, since every libertard is a nihilist
>>72240681
Nihilism comes from the reality that there is no true world and thus no purpose to life. All other philosophy comes from the idea that there is life after death and is thus untrue.
>>72235233
Does he have any original thoughts? Has he actually contributed any new ideas? It's not like he came up with the ideas of anti-statism and anarcho-capitalism, or has advanced those theories in any particular way. He is more of a teacher than a philosopher.
>>72240769
>tries to argue
Anon, you should go read my posts again.
>>72240994
I don't think you understand why Nihilism is self-defeating
"There is no such thing as truth"
It means this statement isn't true.
>>72240445
In order to engage me, you will have to provide a valid argument.
So far you have failed to do so. Until you put across at least 1 (ONE) VALID argument, I will not engage you in debate.
>>72235233
He's not a philosopher. His shit got pushed by a grad student who gave him every benefit of the doubt and a most charitable reading.
>>72240233
This.
Marcus Aurelius is the best philosopher.
Here's a link for you lazy cunts:
http://www.philaletheians.co.uk/study-notes/living-the-life/marcus-aurelius'-meditations-tr.-casaubon.pdf
>>72235233
>Greatest philosopher
Ha.
>>72241315
And who the fuck do you think you are, exactly? I am under no obligation to "debate" you in the first place. You are not some magical being who people aspire to earn respect from. You're a random Anon who has not shown the ability to even think for himself in any substantive way. The notion that I would desire to "engage you" is laughable.
>>72237767
If you think this man is "red pilled" then you should go post on free republic or fox news forums.
>>72241485
>MUH DICK
spot the nigger.
>>72241595
I'm a philosopher, libertarian and intellectual. A member of the upper-strata.
I reside in a plane of existence that little runts such as yourself could only dream of. Hence your inability to constitute a valid argument.
>>72241595
Not an argument.
>>72237629
I would just let these cultists jerk themselves off if I were you, once they leave home this autistic phase should stop
>>72235233
>philosopher
If Ayn Rand is a dumbed-down Nietzsche, he's a dumbed-down Rand.
>>72239519
are you insulting yourself or something? think a little harder before you post next time.
>>72241776
Not an argument.
>>72241728
>I'm a philosopher, libertarian and intellectual. A member of the upper-strata.
okay pal. whatever you say.
>>72241776
Define dumbed down.
>>72241677
Thanks, for this sound, reasonable and balanced argument Pajeet.
>>72241859
Not an argument.
Very Saintly Ashiata Shiemash
>>72241896
it's the only argument is the thread.
>>72235233
>YT cuck
>philosopher
Please, he probably doesn't even know what an induction is. If he did, he would know "not an argument" is not an argument.
>>72242096
Not an argument.
>>72242096
>If he did, he would know "not an argument" is not an argument.
But he does acknowledge this...
>>72242096
>If I call him a cuck that invalidates his argument xDDDDD
Why is he a cuck may I ask? Oh yeah, you can't answer because you're an idiot.
>>72241211
Nihilism doesn't claim there is no such thing as truth. It claims that we cannot even know truth because truth is subjective.
>>72237767
>>72239169
>believes the holocaust happened
>defends israel
>blames everything on cultural marxism
>cuckservative
>red pilled
lolno
>>72242419
It's just pol slang, lad. I dont give a damn about Molyneux. But calling him a philosopher, and the best at that, is equivalent to crowning lil bow wow as the new mozart.
I dont think he'd welcome being called a philosopher either, supposing he has a normal ego.
>>72242533
No it doesn't claim that at all. That's just relativism. Nihilism claims there is no truth. Period. No moral truth, no scientific truth, no subjective truth it doesn't exist. There is no meaning and it can not be created.
>>72241833
Not possessing self-determination over his anal cavity.
>>72242914
LE EPIK JOKE!!! EPIC!!!
How about you try and construct an argument and get back to me you brainless little cockroach?
>>72242789
He runs the biggest Philosophy show on the internet which he makes a living from and has his own philosophy. Just because you dont *feel* like he's a philosopher, because you only view philosophers as being ancient Greeks in robes, doesn't mean he isn't.
>>72242996
not an argument
>>72242789
No, he calls himself a philosopher as a title (despite having zero academic qualifications and his book, when given an actual review by actual academics, dismissed as drivel).
Of the statements he makes that are coherent, they're basically babby's first interpretation of Atlas Shrugged that are then interpolated to fit an entire worldview.
>>72243141
You know the enlightenment happened and some of those guys had decent things to say? Also there are dozens upon dozens of decent philosophy channels online. Philosophy goes further than muh state. Hell, maybe reading some hobbes or berkley would do you both some good on the subject too. Or Hegel even, if you can handle possibly the longest winded book on the subject (no wonder the young hegelians got it "wrong" later).
Humour me, what philosophical topics does he actually talk about? What school of epistemology does he subscribe to? Is he a rationalist? An empiricist?
I really wish this bald clown would stop making threads about himself. At first it was irritating. At this point it's just sad.
>>72243902
objectivism
>>72242789
You haven't listened to a single show then, because he certainly refers to himself as a philosopher, and rightly so. He falls into the category of moral philosophy, did graduate work on philosophy, and has published several books in the field.
People will, as they always have, make vain appeals to authority with the implication that you are only a "philosopher" if nonthreatening, grant-funded academics say you are. In the exact same way Mendel was a biologist, Molyneux is a philosopher.
It's a shame that like Mendel, Molyneux's contributions to philosophy will remain unrecognized until long after his death. You can be a "philosopher" by paying a great deal of money in coursework, and by publishing an entirely self serving diatribe on the nuances of north american native stoicism, and from high in your associate professor position you can look down on people who have the nerve to suppose questions that matter may have an answer.
>>72242850
That's epistemological or metaphysical nihilism. Not general nihilism moral nihilism or existential nihilism.
>>72241211
>nihilism is self defeating because [my meaningless values]
>>72244751
It's Nihilism, the branches it covers are redundant. You can't cherry pick certain types of Nihilism to subscribe to. Regardless, there are specific paradoxs for all its forms it's just most easily summed up with "general nihilism" how you can claim it's only one type of nihilism but not general nihilism is beyond me.
You seem to be confusing nihilism with absurdism or relativism or some other less extreme derivatives of relativism.
>>72235993
Are you retarded sir?
>>72245416
I'm really not. I'm an existential nihilist who also subscribes to moral nihilism. I don't subscribe to epistemological nihilism.
My beliefs are as follows, there is no God, thus no life after death, thus there is no true purpose to life.
Along with that is understand that since there is no God to judge me, and morality is a subjective opinion, then there is no true or universal morality, then morals are moot.
Murder is neither good nor bad but simply an action.
>>72235233
Because he's a great son and not a statist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwTVB5mg4KY
>>72245338
>>72240681
Too bad they share these values in order to subscribe to nihilism. While claiming they don't believe in paradox's or any truth they find that believe Nihilism to be true. Whether they admit to it or not they are taking a leap of faith. (and since most are just dumb and edgy angst faggots also find meaning in preaching this true non truth)
>>72245416
I don't think you understand nihilism
people create their own meanings for words and events in their lives, this creates truth because truth is meaning-dependent
this is not only nihilist but basic cogsci
>>72244335
Yeah i gathered with the ayn rand jokes. That's it? Lol. I'm by no means a philosophy grad or whatever. I've just taken to reading some of the magnus opus of some of the greats in my spare time, and im the point where one realizes how little one knows about philosophy. I tried reading phemonology of the spirit by hegel and got absolutely btfo since I couldnt even grasp half the concepts. Friend of mine made me backtrack to descartes and kant so i could understand the gist of the noumenom.
Point is philosophy is hard. And getting a hardon for pseudo utilitarianism doesnt make one suddenly a master philosopher. It barely makes you an affectionado.
>>72244741
I've watched a couple of his shows/videos. Topics being purely historical/politicallike mandela or whatever. They werent bad videos. It's only later i realised he had that argumental philosopher meta meme.
>>72246203
*aficionado
Hegel is the genesis of intentionally obfuscatory continental philosophy. Don't feel bad.
>>72245878
You're just a dumb edgy narcissist. A libertine, not a nihilist.
>>72246369
Not an arguement.
>>72246125
>people create their own meanings
Absurdism. There is no meaning to be created with Nihilism.
>>72246125
>>72245416
>>72242850
Jesus fucking Christ just read the first paragraph of the Wikipedia page already. It explains it right fucking there.
>>72246496
>read the first paragraph of the Wikipedia page already
This is the depth of understand /pol/ has on philosophical concepts.
>>72246496
I'll stick to the primary texts. The Wikipedia page is a mess.
>>72246496
>Most commonly, nihilism is presented in the form of existential nihilism, which argues that life is without objective meaning, purpose, or intrinsic value.
>objective
>intrinsic
i.e. the meaning, purpose, and value is subjective and imputed by the individual
are you tarded?
>>72235233
He's not a philosopher. He's contributed nothing to contemporary philosophy or politics in any way. He just makes youtube videos.
>>72246613
If you read it you'll see how completely missing the point those two idiots arguing over the definition of nihilism are.
real genius coming through
>>72246905
I haven't even been reading the argument. I just like shitposting.
>>72247026
can't argue with this
his essay on the definition of the word "game" forms the basis for modern cogsci radial and prototype theories of human categorization
>>72246748
Just because it's not objective does not mean it's necessarily subjective.
Stop trying to pigeonhole such a broad concept.
>>72246727
You obviously don't understand the primary texts, and the WP page is usually curated by actual academics, so if you think it's a mess it's probably because you're missing something, not them.
>>72240310
ARGUMENT
>>72247162
I was responding to an even worse pigeonholer, dilettante. It's clear that I'm only describing the most common form of nihilism. Respond to the leafposter next time.
>>72235233
Fuck the government. FUCK ROADS.
By the way today's show is me talking to two stupid niggers about how all you Americans should vote Trump. Want to fix your country? Vote for the government to do it you dumb faggots. Now keep watching my videos as I shill on /pol/, no, it's not an argument, I have to fucking eat today.
>>72239579
kek, but in all seriousness he was quoting a comment.
>>72246748
It doesn't mention subjective meaning at all, it's the rejection of all meaning. Absurdism is what goes into accepting it and creating subjective meaning.
Nietzsche outlines overcoming it with the overman which creates their own values. The overman is not a Nihilist and does not agree accept it. The problem for Nietzsche is that we can not keep clinging to our current outlooks on existance following the death of god. We need to go beyond good and evil and totally change the foundations or we will be destined to fall into nihilism. He recognizes limits of rationality and visceral arguments, as well as anything with a bases in an idealized world.
>>72246306
Yeah lol, that's what i've been told. I've just been rather keen to get my head into it because of the formative role his historicism theory has had on marx. From what i understood so far, marxism is the materialistic version of hegel's historical idealism and all his zeits (society being spirit of the time, sublime being the will of the state or something like that, etc).
I've tried reading marx also, but only kapital vol1, which goes more into his critique analysis of capitalism than his reasons for the whole "overdetermination of entry points" and the need to reject rationalism/empiricism bullshit.
Cant say I actually believe any of the shit I've read so far, but it does make you think. Also liebniz's monads are funny.
>>72247564
>rejection of all meaning
you're reaching a little too far
it's a rejection of inherent meaning
what you do with that of course is up to you
>>72247817
My leftist catholic cousin is trying to get me to read Deleuze right now
>>72235993
>>72235233
>no PhD
>worth listening to
Into the trash it goes
>>72247431
So you are referring to nihilism as it is understood in common vernacular and not as it actually is? Because the simplified belief is that it is edgy incoherent relativism. Or whatever the Big Lebowski memed it into.
>>72235233
> "Who is the greatest philosopher ever to have existed and why is it this man?"
> burden of proof lies on anyone claiming that guy or some other guy is greatest philosopher ever
> no quantifiable metric for greatness is given
> "not an argument" is not an argument if you don't substantiate it
> obvious bait
> bullshit ensues
>>72247881
I've gone over this a million times. You are confusing Nihilism with absurdism. Or possibly banal relativism.
Isn't he just Hume, Nozick, Locke, and Adam Smith rolled up into one person?
>>72248521
He's not nearly as smart or nuanced as any of those people.
>>72247983
Oh dear, he's one of those post structuralist guys isnt he? :/
Also
>catholic leftist
France why?
>>72248198
>as it actually is
there are a like a dozen 'nihilisms'
>>72248132
>Left wing academia is the source of all knowledge
fuck of shill
>>72235233
This guys is a dumb ass.
>>72248672
yeah he was le atheist/agnostic before, like me, but he converted to his waifu's religion
conveniently for him it's the most leftist christianity
the book is Deleuze and Guattari actually
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Oedipus
>>72247881
Also this whole "it's up to you" snowflake shit isn't the idea. The idea is that a person of lordly caliber will totally recreate the system and impose it on others, as he believes culture, morality, spirituality etc are decided and imposed by a powerful few. He already describes a shift from warrior virtue ethics, to salvation ethics,
>>72237584
>millions of people illegally entering the country and committing rape, murder, and bringing drugs and gangs across the border
>social issue
You wish you fucking inept, feelings-driven liberal
>>72248521
>>72248521
Adam smith was an open minded mercantilist with a hard on for industrialization. Hume was pal with him and is known for his problem of induction/ skepticism. John "tabula" locke was cool with parlianentary govs. Dont know much at all about nozick.
You might as well say he was the second coming of jesus with that much praise tbqh
>>72248974
truly a philosopher king is needed in this day
>>72248691
No there are multiple aspects of Nihilism that are studied. It's not something to be cherry picked. The claim that there is no meaning, truth or value is far reaching and has different implications in different fields which is analyzed. "how does this affect morality, how does this affect science etc"
>>72248694
Name one important and influential philosopher in the past 50 years that hasn't gotten a PhD
>Protip, you can't
Also, the fact that you brush off philosophy departments as "left wing academia" shows that you've never even studied the subject seriously at an undergrad level. One of the most important ethics philosophers of the post WWII era, Elizabeth Anscombe, was conservative as fuck and studied under the great Wittgenstein. Despite not being religious like Anscombe, another female, Philippa Foot, is equally based and the two of them have been greatly important for reviving virtue ethics and kicking off the dead horse that is consequentialism.
Any important contemporary philosopher like John McDowell or Bob Bramdon would have a fucking field day with someone like Stefan, or anti-intellectual /pol/tards who cry "left wing academia." The concept of left-right in philosophy is so abstracted from contemporary politics saying this doesn't even make sense.
For instance, Slavoj Zizek, a fucking Marxists and Laconian, recently came out against transgenderism, Islam, and European nations that are accepting immigrants and social media freaked out trying to call him a "reactionary fascists," just to show how little your average person understands.
>>72241485
>>72249244
Idk the last shift to salvation ethics was bullshit. I'd rather go back to warrior virtues because a new shift might be even worse than the defeatist salvation one we have now. I don't think the jewry are going to be dethroned as the ruling class anytime soon unless a new napoleon pops up or something.
>>72249043
>get angry about something and wants a simple solution
>calls someone feeling driven
if hypocracy could kill, there would probably be like 2 people left on earth
>>72249526
He never said that, just so you know.
>>72249526
Descartes is cool and extremely influential for turning against the School, but desu he got fucking BTFO by succeeding rationalists like Spinoza or Leibniz. Yet it's important to note both are extremely influenced by dependent, especially Spinoza, who borrows a ton of language from Descartes.
>>72249413
Zizek just likes coke tho
t. Sniffles
>>72249413
Zizek is all over the place and generally incoherent. Falling into the category of pop culture philosopher. I like some of his insights on love, but him not fitting the mold isn't anything new.
>>72250016
>>72249926
>>72250016
I wouldn't say he's coherent necessarily. He's just really entrenched in Marxist/Lacanic jargon that will make no sense to those who have not read the former, and still is quite challenging for those who have.
He seems to follow Foucault's path of purposely making his work obscure which, as someone who considers themselves to be more pragmatically minded, I dislike. This is why I rarely read his books, but his interviews are A+.
Also, I know neither of you are the person I was responding to, but Zizek was a very minor point of that post. The main point there was to show that, despite /pol/ wishing to categorize everything that's not STEM as some Marxist infiltrated conspiracy, this is without a doubt not the case for a good philosophy department (currently doing grad at a top 10 school). Especially since most if not all undergrad work is spent reading philosophers from the past whom didn't even acknowledge progressivism and its ideals, and a shit ton of undergrad is just reading interpretations of those past works.
>>72236236
Libertarians are politicians. Politicians are forced to sell out principles for tangible goals. Unfortunately selling out means that your "tangible goals" are nothing but empty victories that do nothing to change the status quo and only serve as examples of things you can point at to act like you actually did something useful (basically Obamacare).
>>72249413
> who cry "left wing academia."
Is this is /lit/ invasion? It's well known the education system is a fucking indoctrination center and was hijacked with hippies. This isn't even a debate anymore. Stop worshiping false authority and consider the merit alone.
>based females
>>72237584
Why can't Hans be content with destroying Yurope?
Why must he try to destroy America too?
>>72250932
>cherry picked quotes
>consider merit alone
>ha ha fugggg women!
Literally a contradiction within your own post. If you had taken a logic course you wouldn't have made that mistake. You're also criticizing two philosophers whom you've never read, otherwise you would know that Anscombe's positions are close to /pol/ tier, possibly even more so.
Now, onto your main point: it's difficult to say the education system has been "hijacked with hippies" when you have people who support virtue ethicis, Kantian ethics, Spinoza scholars, etc. the reason reading qualified PhD holders isn't simply an appeal to authority is because very few people have the intelligence and resources to understand centuries worth of philosophical thought and be able to make a meaningful contribution to the dialogues being held.
Furthermore, what sort of indoctrination system do you even think occurs within a philosophy department? Ethics seems the only branch where, through your point of view, this could be possible. And not even all ethics, only applied ethics (versus courses that deal with the history of ethical development), which is and extremely small field.
Humor me and explain one person whom you consider to be an indoctrinated philosopher of mind, who is an obvious hippy only working to "indoctrinate." A metaphysicst?
>>72250748
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4
The problem is that even in the "good" philosophy departments there is censorship and pressure to avoid certain kinds of controversial arguments. It's as chomsky identifies with being forced to work withen the system although he claims this to be an inability to challenge free market capatilism. The real thing not be be challenged is Tabula rasa, and relativism. With anything that can be construed as racist, sexist or otherwise not PC for multicultural society is not published, shamed, and has the potential to destroy a person. this is true for stem too, even more so and they make STEM take indoctrination courses to graduate that are unrelated to their field. /pol/ praises stem because it's practical to find good employment with it,
>>72238657
>Hey anyone notice how this loser started becoming more popular and successful by changing his business model?
I guess Europe really is doomed.
>>72251861
>the real thing not to be questioned is tabula rasa
Really? Where did you study? You make some very good points, and I'm a fan of that video, but I have literally never (to my knowledge) encountered someone who adopted that position in my department.
While there may be pressure as a result of capitalism for newer teachers, once you have tenure it's extremely difficult to get fired. In addition to this, tons of philosophers within a department absolutely can't stand each other. My mentor is basically at odds with everyone else in the department and he constantly discusses how incorrect he thinks they are, even when they're around. Granted, this guy is an absolute madman who I think is starting to literally lose his mind a bit.
Also, as I said in a previous point, political and applied ethical philosophy make up such a small portion of what's going on in contemporary discussion. The biggest fields since the WWII era have probably been philosophy of mind, philosophy of action, and philosophy of language.
>>72251697
>cherry picked quotes
If you think any philosopher worth his salt wasn't blatantly misogynist -- especially Schopenhauer you're too far gone. The serious argument would be that woman are not capable of producing anything of merit, but you are too autistic to realize I wasn't being serious.
>>72251861
>The real thing not be be challenged is Tabula rasa, and relativism.
Haha right tell that to almost every scholar in existence today who is religious (to take just one categorical example).
>>72252520
Eh I don't think Witty was a misogynist considering two of his most influential students, the ones I name, were female.
>>72252771
Oh shit I didn't even see he tried to say that relativism is some sort of sacred cow. If you're religious, a virtue ethicist, or even a fucking consequentialist you're almost certainly not a relativist. Who the fuck worth their salt is a relativist through and through these days?
>>72238703
>>Aristotle>Plato
Das it mane.
>>72252837
Another majorly influential student was Hannah Arendt, who had a film made of her (a film that is from beginning to end about a philosopher doing philosophy is a pretty slick accomplishment).
That said, Wittgenstein did sleep with her (and others), so his promotion of parity of female academics was probably not solely due to his progressive mindset.
>>72254201
Oh shit I never knew Arendt was a student of his. I actually just recently picked up a copy of The Origins of Totalitarianism. Thanks for that tidbit my dude.
