Hollyrood Elections are coming up on May 5th
Last election cycle the SNP got more votes against them than for them, however they still gained a majority due to FPTP
Encouraging all /pol/acks to vote Conservative (if its viable) on ballot 1 and UKIP on ballot 2
UKIP are ONLY running on the second ballot, don't look for them on the first
Look up results from last election and vote for whoever has a chance at winning if you're unsure
its time to fuck the SNP and smash their majority
self bump
No
>>72121104
legend
>>72121104
Why would you want the SNP to have any power?
>>72121343
To insure Scotland is an Authoritarian Socialist, multicultural state ready for full EU integration.
>demand Independence while simultaneously replacing your population with 3rd world shitskins
What is the SNP's problem?
>>72121686
Only in Scotland does independence mean giving away sovereignty to a foreign government as soon as you have it. Replacing your own population with foreigners, and insuring less freedom of speech and expression, privacy and family life and raising taxes for the minority of people motivated enough to work and make money rather than collect welfare.
Only in Scotland do people vote for the above without knowing, understanding that is what they are doing.
"Freedumb" is al that maters, never mind political and social issues, it'll all be fine if we trust the government (lol).
Really Scotland you better wake up, or you are FUCKED.
>>72121686
Hello Russiabro
and thats a good point
we need to be good goys and vote the SNP
>>72122033
B-B-BUT MUH TORIES
>>72122033
Commies posing Nationalists.
>>72122065
>Replacing your own population with foreigners
This is my biggest issue (out of the many I have) with the SNP
they don't care about Scottish people or its independence
they just want to get the credit for fucking off away from Westminster, they don't want to make Scotland a prosperous nation that is able to support itself
they just want free shit from the EU
the SNP are the niggers of Scotland
I just want to hear what the yes voters have to say about our failing fucking economy
I want to see what the SNP morons have to say about the fact the people they vote for are deliberately smashing our economy to take more shit from Westminster so that they can blame Westminster for the issues in our economy
I want to hear how they'd stop the SNP ruining the country for generations with the constitution they'd write
I want to hear an answer to this shit
I want to hear them justify leaving nations we conquered the world with to hand all our power to Brussels because "muh common market"
If they can answer any of that I'll be surprised
>>72122261
A leftist population base and open immigration insures future voters among other things. The SNP are committed to multiculturalism, free migration, taking in refugees (with no limits), and pandering to the rapidly growing Muslim population.
They are very dangerous if Scotland is to survive with any identity of its own.
A flag and a parliament that looks like an African shanty town does not a country make. Scotland is about it's people, and it's people will be replaced by the very government that offers it "freedom" and independence. And if you speak to the contrary you will be arrested for hate speech.
This is a very very dangerous road you are going down.
This is what SNP voters are voting for.
one last bump
shetlandfag here
what constituency are you in lads
i'm fighting to keep the SNP out, they've never won here before.
>>72122968
Inverness reporting in, 100% not voting SNP - I'd rather not see the place ruined further.
>>72120465
>Scottish /pol/ users leaving any form of dent in the massive leftyfest that is Scotland
wew lad.
>>72122891
I genuinely don't think they understand the consequences of voting for the SNP
Scotland is a tranquil country with very little in the way the rest of Europe has issues
most of Scotland is small towns of fully white people who vote according to their personal experience
their personal experiences are all fantastic comparatively
So they vote as the idealist cunts they are
"well meaning idiots" sums up most of our population
>>72122968
>>72123121
Renfrewshire South reporting in
I'm in the heart of cuckville
but I'm doing my bit
trying to get UKIP a few votes on the second ballot
>>72123241
Would you rather we done nothing at all?
You forget that most of the country voted against leaving the UK -- theres hope for us yet lad.
We just need a boot up the arse to wake up the rest
>>72123297
They wanted to stick 1000 refugees into a town on Bute, that brought about some protests I believe.
But you're 100% right, much of Scotland hasn't been exposed to the pressures that big population centres in England have and thus they've been a breeding ground for faux moral highgrounding.
>>72120465
If you fail to understand why the conservative party will never be a viable political force in Scotland ever again, then you are too young too remember Thatcher, and too stupid to recognise that a vote for Tory, is a vote for the ham-faced members of Bullingdon Club.
Not on your nelly my son. Not an option, I do not, can not, and never will consent to rule by those wankers.
>>72123687
Its been the perfect Marxist breeding ground for far too long
There are people who genuinely feel that communism is a fantastic system and should be implemented
its why the SNP are doing so well now
>>72123888
So aside from Thatcher tell me one Conservative party leader who has completely ruined our economy in the last 70 years.
and who do you plan to vote for?
>>72121104
as soon as I see his stupid fucking face I just think of the shite he spews in the house of commons in his rancid whining voice
also look at this cuntish tactic 'if you criticize us, you criticize scotland! you like tories!'
On a related note- you chaps must have noticed the uncanny parallels in the arguments used for and against Brexit, and the Indy Ref.
>We can be like Norway
>Project Fear
>The pathetic concessions to remain, which will never materialise
>>72123888
Dont eevn argue with them man. Most of the posters ITT are probably English false flaging. I know for certain that "Russian" is an Ulster Loyalist shill.
>>72123888
>then you are too young too remember Thatcher
and you're right on that
I think thats the reason I'm able to look at things objectively now
if you plan to vote for the SNP you're digging this country's grave over "Muh Thatcher"
we all know she fucking ruined the country
she ruined the north of England, Wales, and Northern Ireland as well
it wasn't a direct attack on Scotland
get passed your emotional biases and look at whats happening in this country
>>72124265
Answer >>72122487
>>72123888
You realise that most of the plukey faced, middle class socialists in scotland that support indepedence grew up comfortably because of thatcherism?
Not her biggest fan but this is a fact. Would love to see how many genuine working class people actually support Greens, Corbyn etc (hint: none, they support ukip)
>>72123997
>There are people who genuinely feel that communism is a fantastic system and should be implemented
>its why the SNP are doing so well now
You seriously believe the SNP are a Marxist 5th column?
Your argument has jumped the shark and deserves no rational rebuttal my son.
>>72124224
Yep, they all laughed at us in brit/pol/ when we brought up the maniacal scaremongering in the Indy ref.
Now the same London media is scaremongering in relation to Europe the kippers are whining. No sympathy from me.
>>72124423
>You seriously believe the SNP are a Marxist 5th column?
No, I feel that the SNP's policies are marxist inspired and that the reason they do so well is that idealism that has come from years of having very few major issues
but if you won't give rebuttle to that answer >>72122487
>>72124421
>grew up comfortably because of Thatcherism
Dont even go there, cunt.
I come from Ayrshire, and you know fuck all.
I thought Scots were based? Smackhead alcoholics but based none the less.
Now they are ready to accept Achmed and his 72 brothers enmasse. Oh and they want to leave the UK because they think they are going to become the next Norway.
>Mfw the English claim to not care about Scottish independence yet they can't help but rush to Scottish threads to chimp out
SAOR ALBA A NIS LADS
SAORSA
>>72124265
>he's from Northern Ireland
Hahahahahahhahahahahah
>>72124887
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwNTWaMHv2E
>>72124421
>grew up comfortably because of thatcherism?
Yes these people who made their livings outside of the industry Thatcher ruined didn't have their lives ruined
but I'm sure Thatcher stole all the milk and sent it to their doorstep right lad?
>>72124423
>>72124421
Without using the words "Tories" "westminster" "thatcher" or "freedom" please give me one good answer to any of >>72122487
Or just make a solid case as to why the SNP aren't going to fucking ruin us
>>72124798
Its the same shit as everywhere friend
they're just well meaning idealists who won't listen
>>72124887
I'm from Renfrewshire South, born here and lived here all my life
I love this country as much or more than anyone else ITT
The SNP are going to end us. They're just fearmongering and starting shit in order to get their name in a history book and get free shit from Brussels
they're the niggers of Scotland
They do everything they can to blame Westminster for everything
Sturgeon's answer to "What would you do with the 10% deficit if you were independent?" was "We're not independent"
She does nothing but blame the tories and everyone should see that
I don't like the Conservatives either, however they are leaps and bounds better than the SNP
Cross Trump on Aberdeen Golf Course, get Rekt.
>>72123997
So aside from Thatcher tell me one Conservative party leader who has completely ruined our economy in the last 70 years.
You do accept that Thatcher did ruin or economy then? The fact is, every party leader since Thatcher has followed a neo-liberal economic model, including Blair and Brown, so it would be trivial to argue that they have all contributed to the proven and recognised catastrophic failures of that system, and also to the destruction of the quality of life for the majority of people in this country.
Oh and by the way- Phillip Green took home over a billion in salary, paid no tax and then bankrupt the company. There's your neo-liberalism encapsulated right there.
Its stupid, really.
>>72125236
>You do accept that Thatcher did ruin or economy then
Who the fuck has denied that?
>The fact is, every party leader since Thatcher has followed a neo-liberal economic model, including Blair and Brown, so it would be trivial to argue that they have all contributed to the proven and recognised catastrophic failures of that system, and also to the destruction of the quality of life for the majority of people in this country.
Agreed
but I'm still waiting for an argument that tells me the Conservatives aren't the best of the worst on the first ballot as it stands
also who do you plan to vote for?
>>72125145
Well there is a reason you are seeing a rise in right wing politics, why UKIP, Trump, Le Pen etc are gaining traction. There's some right wing party in Austria now doing well.
The people have had enough of left wing madness. I do wonder though, is multiculturalism a relatively minor thing in Scotland? I can't fathom why the people of Scotland would welcome 3rd world shitheads unless they had little experience with them.
Are Scots truly prepared to swap Westminster for Brussels?
>wanting to be ruled the Tory elite in London
>not wanting to be a sovereign independent nation
>wanting to live under Tory cuts, austerity, trident and increasingly neoliberal policies.
>>72125642
>is multiculturalism a relatively minor thing in Scotland?
There was a poll a while back saying only 3% of Scots wanted more immigration - the SNP don't care
>>72125716
answer >>72122487
>>72125818
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-31800374
this is probably a far more accurate number though
>>72125145
your stupid little list of questions is tl;dr, they are entirely on your terms, and no rational person is going to be drawn into your fantasy shooting match.
I'm not even an SNP supporter. I just think your list of questions, and your repeated demands to have them answered, mark you out as a real knuckle-headed chuckle fuck, even by the standards of /pol/.
>>72122968
West Lothian/Livingston
I forgot which one it is
I'm not voting. Who gives a flying fuck about any of this shit. Every single politician in Scotland is a Marxist.
>>72120465
Reminder to the SNP voting useful(less) idiots.
This is the guy that will set your immigration policies. Seen here facilitating illegal immigration.
>>72125995
They are on my terms -- you're right on that
I'm not here to word shit carefully I'm asking for answers
how do you plan to explain the SNPs consistent dodging of all questions involving the deficit without wording questions in a bias way?
Why don't you give me an answer to
>but I'm still waiting for an argument that tells me the Conservatives aren't the best of the worst on the first ballot as it stands
and
>also who do you plan to vote for?
Then?
Seeing as asking about the economy or asking a question to all the "i dont like the SNP but want independence" people about the constitution of our independent nation and about our massive deficit is now irrational simply because it was worded hastily
>>72125642
>The people have had enough of left wing madness
On the contrary. I would like to see a break down of the 19th century left/right dichotmoy.
In practical terms, this means I would argue for 'left wing' economic policies, such as nationalisation of energy and transport infrastructure, while opposing multiculturalism and uncontrolled immigration.
Don't you people get it? The cake is a lie. It does not have to be a choice between right wing or left wing.
Rather., history teaches us that successful landslides, including the landslide in Germany in 1934, come from what is known as The Third Position.
>>72126339
Have you studied history, or economic history? And I mean to degree level. In fact- forget it.
Go suckle at Osborne's rancid cock and thank him for his benevolence, you obsequious little conservative fuckwit.
That's about the level your debate deserves. I can barely even parse your sentences.
>>72127491
Remind me where I said I liked the Conservatives?
"The best of the worst" is the phrase I used to describe them
Instead of asking bullshit questions in order to try and make a point why don't you tlel me why they're not, currently, (I mean now - not in Thatcher's era) the best of the worst on the first ballot.
Or should I forget it because I ask questions in a way thats bias to my standpoint?
