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What are your thoughts on this drug. Disregarding the cancer hippie culture, is it degenerate? Explain what you think and provide some input of what you think of it. Ironically it made a couple of people I knew never touch a illicit drug again after using it. And when I tried it, it made me think in ways not meant to be thought in. I feel like ever since I've touched this stuff, I feel disconnected from people emotionally. And feel shitty as as person and flashback to all the shit I've done that I regret and think a lot about it. This shit is fucking scary.
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It's dangerous!
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>>72118131
>think in ways not meant to be thought

Why censor yourself like this? LSD is shown to improve brain functionality and memory retrieval by allowing certain parts of the brain to communicate more clearly with one another.

Stop being so scared of your own mind you beta faggot.
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>>72118131
I would like to try it
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>>72118131
This is gonna sound really edgy but it basically just makes you realize what you are
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I have only taken it for recreation, was fun. I seemed to pass off as sober, but i was freaking out in my head.
Its something to do like once a month at most if at all for fun.
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>>72118558
I took my SATs on lsd btw. I got like 1410/2400 cause I bombed writing, but did well in reading and math.
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>>72118131

It's a drug and everybody producing, distributing and consuming it should be put on death row.
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>>72118131
LSD is great fun, and in small doses it's basically a smart drug

but some people got the idea that it's healthy to take as much as possible because they saw the abstractions they noticed when they were high as "the truth"

it allows your brain to communicate with parts of itself more easily, and heightens your perceptions. so it makes thinking about abstract concepts like the hard sciences and physical art more fulfilling, but it's only illusion.

same thing with DMT. it doesn't show you "deep reality", it just allows you to perceive energy in a way that causes us to create meaning for ourselves in a way that we don't feel we can in sober human consciousness

that being said, i love LSD. i take it a handful of times every year. i use it to think of creative ways to do my job, to chew on philosophical and scientific concepts that i have trouble with, and to see each stroke that i paint or hear each note that i play more fully

there isn't really any reason to take more than a hit or two at once
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>>72118131
You know theres very few things i give a fuck about discussing, but psychedelics are one of them. If someone did LSD and didnt have an enlightened sense of self afterwards they either didnt take enough or did it in a bad environment. Either way,
It means they didnt research it enough. Any doctor worth his salt will tell you real LSD is completely harmless as it purely acts as a serotonin agonist in the brain. It doesnt make you see flying dragons, and it doesnt get fucking stored in your spinal chord for the rest of your life.
Ive done psychedelics around 15-17 times in my life and never regretted a trip, ever. I always learned something new about myself. I cant say the same about any other drug. Pic related, music on acid
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>>72118626
Trump could use some LSD to realize how much a cocksucking kike lover he is. Get the fuck back in the oven. The Jew media is brainwashing us and this drug made me realize how fucked we are.
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>>72118626
yeah! hang the pharmacists too! and everybody with a prescription to anything stronger than acetaminophen!
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>>72118379
He fell for the mind-opening meme.

You'll always be a dumb canacuck and no amount of psychedelics can change that
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>>72118131
Want to try it out, but it's hard to obtain. So I stick to all-naturall psilocybin.
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hi op i bet you watched this video from black pigeon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ekkXrfmPM8

i also wanted to make a thread about lsd.
Jung would call it synchronicity
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DUDE LSD
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>>72118379
I swallowed 5 tabs roughly equating to 625 micro grams for my second time. Not to be condescending or pretensious but that's some balls deep shit I got my mind into. I've been looking more into conspiracies like MKULTRA after that and been extremely fucking fearful. How could I have been so asleep this whole time in my life? I'm actually starting to take pol seriously.
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>>72119269
Just order some you fucking retard, all of my vendors are from Netherlands
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>>72118956
>completely harmless
>acts as a serotonin agonist

what is serotonin syndrome for over9000, Alex?

also
>if you aren't enlightened you didn't take enough
addicts will be addicts wherever they go, huh?
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>>72118626
This.
>>72119034
This but unironically.
>>72118455
No it doesn't, it just wraps you inside yet another blanket of comfy delusion.

Sex, drugs and civilization sucks, Christ, prayer and nature rocks.
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>>72118131
>LSD
>not going balls deep into reality and taking DMT
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Article about LSD benefits, tested in the 60's:
The series of tests described in the article took place at the International Foundation for Advanced Study (IFAS) in Menlo Park, CA. Scientists from Stanford, Hewlett-Packard, and elsewhere participated. The volunteers each brought "three highly technical problems from their respective fields that they’d been unable to solve for at least several months." They took "a relatively low dose of acid," 100 micrograms, to enhance their creativity.
Results : http://boingboing.net/2012/08/03/in-mid-60s-lsd-research-stud.html

tl;dr :
Some studie in the 60's shown that scientists on LSD, with a clean procedure and precise tasks to think about achieved breakthroughs.
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Do you guys take LSD alone? Should it be taken on group? For first timers, should it be taken next to a experienced person?
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>>72118131
It is 'ight.
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It's the shit mang. Gonna do it again someday
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If you already think critcally and can imagine different perspectives then there is nothing LSD can do for you. Trashy dump people take, and use their frontal cortex for the first time against their will, and think its a revelation. The truth is, there are 7 year olds who get the same feelings when learning to read for the first time.
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>>72119573
Take it next to an experienced sober person. This stuff is unpredictable. Especially if you've suffered from past mental disorders or just overall not happy with your life.
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>>72118131
Never done it, but from what I've researched, I've concluded although it's harmless if used responsibly long term use does have negative consequences as it warps your perspective of reality.

use sparingly.
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>>72119547
>it gets me really high and i don't understand what's going on
>enlightenment

it's just more illusion

pretty things that make you feel good
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>>72119513
Fuck off poor bitch I bet u can't even afford to buy them broke bitch
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>>72119573
Ive taken it alone dozens of times, its best when its a little cold out, stay up all night on it, and have plenty of entertainment things ready

taking it with other people, they always freak out, then it freaks you out.
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>>72119852
you ever taken DMT?
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>>72119812
What is the worst t can happen? I would like to experience it someday, but i don't know anyone that can supply it, or use it. Guess i will just wait until i meet someone who does it and get sonme confidence with him
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its impossible to get down here ever since SR and agora are gone
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>>72118131
>degenerate
What does that even mean anymore?
>thoughts
I liked it. Could probably open a few doors for some people.
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>>72119923
And what about first timers?
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>>72119990
dig deeper
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If you don't have any mental scarring, like being molested as a child, or having murdered someone, and you are not generally a weak willed individual, you won't have any mental breakdown

just be sure to start with 1 blotter
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>>72120127


there are markets, but they are untrustworthy
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>>72119678
Someone's mad they're too stiff to enjoy themselves
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>>72118131
Black Pigon get out!
Menage your fucking life instead doing drugs you degenerates!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE...
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>>72120174
>>72120019
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>>72119947
i have.

i'm not saying i don't like it, i just like LSD better, and i'm of the opinion that neither of them bring you any closer to "true reality" than

all is as it has ever been

these chemicals are tools that allow us to think about "true reality", but they don't "cause enlightenment" because enlightenment is a process, and not an event or a simple set of chemical reactions
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hey guys, I broke my glass pipe, what's your preferred method for doing dmt, because I have had a gram of it sitting around for a few months
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has any of you ever get high on cacti ???
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>>72119963
You're going to be thinking some weird shit dude. It's just hard to explain. At least the congnitive thoughts. Especially since everyone has had their own different experiences in life. It's not physically dangerous. Psychologically dangerous? Possibly.
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>>72120645
Mescaline? yes, it was neat
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>>72119566
nice source
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>>72119445

Lsd alone doesn't induce serotonin syndrome you ape
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>>72120862
the source's source is better

http://www.themorningnews.org/article/the-heretic
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>>72121355
I followed the hyperlink. I was referring to the source you posted. No cites of an actual study occurring and author has 0 credibility

To be clear, I've dropped acid before and had an amazing, introspective experience. But you posting this is like stoners who claim weed brows brain cells and cures cancer
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it cures autism i've heard
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>>72121536
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelics_in_problem-solving_experiment

Wikipedia page referring to the study. Never took acid btw, jsut heard about this study in a documentary on Arte TV channel, which is a trusted source.
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>>72118626
>trump is probably on amphetamine when rallying
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>>72120258
It affects different people's brains in different ways like most drugs.

Some people it barely has an effect, others it puts them catatonic for a couple hours.

I don't think your own anecdotal experience is enough to derive direct conclusions from.
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>>72121929
there was only one person running who was know to be on amphetamines, and it got to him quick
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>not taking LSD, Shrooms, DMT, mescaline, peyote etc while reading redpilled material
>not seeing the jew manifest itself before you
>not immediately going from athiest to christian after tripping


literal plebs, I bet you all listened to pink floyd like the usual bluepilled retards
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>>72118626
>>72119513
I love how easy it is to just identify incel losers who never did drugs like the normal kids.

"muh degeneracy" lmfao, okay. "Degenerate drug users" were banging your oneitis while high on coke while you sat at your computer playing WoW, thinking you were somehow being noble when in reality you just wasted your youth.
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>>72120230
>>72119990
Nucleus and Alphabay.
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>>72118131
I fucking love it, it's my favorite drug!
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>>72118379
>LSD makes your mind work in shittier, dumber ways
>Gives you anxiety, a worse life outlook, and a worse life afterwords
>Dude expand your mind bro stop censoring yourself to only sane thoughts
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>>72118131
It was by far the most interesting experience I have ever had. But its possible to change your behavior and your personality is undeniable.

I haven't taken much and I only did it in highschool. I went from being a wallflower that didn't speak much to being the life of the party.

I stopped when I realized that I was happy with who I was.

I know a guy that took 148 hits all at once and he changed dramatically. He recently had a stroke and is in a care center. He tries to get people to smoke drugs with him. This dude went from being an honor roll student and an all around good dude to being addicted to numerous drugs.

He became an incoherent menace to the neighborhood.

If you are happy with who you are, don't do it. If you do it, don't take much and don't continue with it for very long.
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>>72121831
meh, not really a fan of the procedure and sample size. And scientifically, when it sounds too good to be true, it's often not true. If this was the norm you would have heard about the reproducability of its results, instead you get a few anecdotes of a few cases of success over decades.

inb4 "you don't see reproducability because the government banned its use soon after."
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>>72121929
German soldiers on western front were sometimes given amphetamines
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>>72122336
That doesn't happen to people who have control over their thoughts and fears. If you have this issue, you should stay away from substances like this until your sort your head out.
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>>72118131
ya no drake a fake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy1X9vEzB8c
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>>72122336
>Gives you anxiety, a worse life outlook, and a worse life afterwords
>Dude expand your mind bro stop censoring yourself to only sane thoughts

that sounds like redpilling in general desu, perhaps you should eat cheerios and mcdonalds fries for the rest of your life just to stay safe.
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>>72119963
One of my friends went nuts on it. He tought he already died and this is purgatory on heaven or hell. He started to speak nonsense, got deeper and deeper in his bullshit. Was not sure for weeks after the trip if he's alive or not.
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Lsd was synthesized and distributed by the government in an attempt to neutralize he radical American youth in the 60's

It worked like a fucking charm, instead of setting shit on fire and hurling bricks an entire generation circled up in drum circles and decided that it was more important to go back to the land than it was to really change American society

Ken Kesey once showed up at a Vietnam protest and in so many words told the crowd that it wasent important to end the war in Vietnam because it wasent far out to even care about the war. "Just ignore it" is what he said through a megaphone

Basically the drug gets people so far up their own asses they think that dietary choices= changing society. Check and mate

Every person involved with lsd back in the day had govt connections, especially leary

I've done acid and shrooms before btw, but desu I'm more of an opiatelmao
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This is true... The discovery of the structure of DNA was due to Francis Crick being under the influence of LSD. Seriously, that's true... look it up. Crick is a nobel prize winning scientist and he determined the double-helix structure of DNA because of LSD.

LSD is not entirely degenerate I don't think...
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Any software developers here who've taken it? I'm curious what it'd be like to code on lsd. Can you focus and get shit done or do you just wanna lay back and chill?
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>>72118895
You are 100% right about the general character of LSD. The perception that everything makes sense if the best and worst aspect of the drug. You have to use it with the idea in mind that you aren't having profound truth spoon fed to you. It just gives you a different context to understand things in. If you do it in the right setting, your first time could be the only time you need to use it.
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>>72123512
It's not something that makes you lazy. And doubtfully. Unless you like micro dose like taking 50 micrograms or less. If you take more than that, you might be confused and thoughts and patterns seem to "Connect". It's overwhelming. You'll be more motivated to do shit but it's too much going on in your brain to properly do an activity such as that. Unless you're an experienced user.
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>>72119445
Look, an opinion without facts or figures behind it!
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>>72120645

yep- couple of weeks ago. I wanted some insight to see if I should stay on my current career path, and if I like the relationship I am in. I was happy with the results. it was good to step out of my skin and check out my life and relationships without all the baggage I usually carry around. it took away a lot of resentment and anxiety I had trained myself to feel.
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>>72122362
Well, you CAN'T see legitimate reproducability because it's now a controlled substance and they'll lock you up for producing it.
Since this limited scope of research is all we have to go on, the outlook for the drug is, at the very least, positive.
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>>72118895
at last some sense.
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>>72123043

no, retard. they already had clues to the helical structure due to xray crystallography, and knew the chemical components involved. the insight was in how they fit together.
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I was actually expecting a legitimate conversation about LSD and other psychedelics.
What I found was a wealth of uneducated opinions resounding with inexperience and contempt for others' enjoyment.
You're like a bunch of bureaucrats.
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>>72122336
>no sources
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overhyped shit that has caused countless cases of mental illness. it was cool but it can change people so drastically for the worse.

i remember reading meditation can give you the same effects without the long term consequences of a fucked up mind
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Where the fuck do you guys get this shit?
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>>72124774
>contempt for others' enjoyment.

Do you suppose that enjoyment is good in itself?
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>>72118956
A bad trip on acid is not fun though. It's horrible.
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>>72125048
again:
>no sources

you are probably afraid it will make your god meaningless, not?
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>>72118131
Don't like pharmaceuticals, pretty degenerate.
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>>72125325
Dark net or purpose chem.
Purpose chem and other research chemical departments sell something called "1P-LSD". It's an analogy of LSD, with a very similar chemical structure of normal LSD. Since its new, it's not scheduled in the USA and is less "sketchy" than buying from the darknet. and is thought to metabolize in the liver into normal LSD. That's what I use because I'm too scared of ordering from a dark net site like alpha market or Silk Road. However it's only been around for a few years, but so far it seems about the same as normal LSD, and there has been no report of deaths.
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If you're going to do any psychedelic, first and foremost make sure you've got your head sorted out, if you're suicidal, prone to anxiety, etc, very possible those thoughts will surface at some point during the trip and then boom, it will spiral into the worst trip of your life, which will potentially effect you in some way afterwards.

Second off make sure the location is right for gods sake, don't drop acid in your sort-of buddies grimy basement at 2am on a Tuesday, seriously just don't. Go to a quiet area on the beach, on a hike, to a forest with a blanket and a view of the clouds, anywhere away from your city really, I truly believe that many of the mental illnesses plaguing westerners is directly due to society, just leave it all behind for a day m8, reconnect with what we really are at the end of the day - animals.

Of all drugs psycadelics are the least degenerate, especially considering it's impossible to develop a dependence on them. Use them as a tool and you could grow to be a better person. Grab a book, preferably with short, digestible passages that will be easy to read but unbelievable to consider while you're tripping. I personally recommend the Tao te Ching, meditations by Marcus Aurelius, and hagakure - book of the samurai to read on a trip.

This is a long ass post so I'll end it by saying I believe the sensation of ego death is one everyone should experience, especially in this day and age where the majority of people are complete narcissists. If you're tripping contemplate on your ego and such, perhaps you'll come to similar conclusions I did, I feel I'm a better person than I was before I did psychs.

Good luck lads and be safe
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>>72118131
It's fantastic. I used to micro-dose it and it killed my anxiety and helped me sleep.
Not sure of the long term effects though
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LSD is not for people looking to fuck themselves up and "trip out".

If you educate yourself beforehand, prepare yourself mentally, physically and emotionally, it can be one of the most incredible experiences of your life, and give you new perspective that changes you for the better. As dumb as it sounds, it can even be enlightening.

If you don't respect the rules of LSD, if you're a dipshit and you play it fast and loose, it can take you to darker mental places than you could possibly imagine.
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>>72125764
Thanks burgerbro
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isnt lucid dreaming better than tripping ??
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>>72126955
OBE is where is at my iberian nigger, we senpai tho
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>>72125764
1P-LSD is confirmed a prodrug to LSD-25 which means that your body metabolizes it into real LSD, its the real deal and you should stock up before it gets banned

https://detect-kit.com/is-1p-lsd-a-prodrug-to-lsd/
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>>72126955

i've done both and i'll tell you that lucid dreaming is "more trippy" but you also have to deal with the 5th dimensional daemons/ ayyliens that you sometimes run into while transitioning between our world and the spirit realm
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It's literally used by the CIA to control minds.
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>>72122301
>implying my oneitis would be such a dumb slut to fuck you
Listen here bub, I was fucking level 60 and raiding naxx 40 at the time. My character wore glorious shiny armor. I went on ACTUAL WARS with my guild while you were hallucinating in a puddle of your own piss for taking a single fucking E pill to look cool. I have good memories and real friends I've met online, you have herpes, drug addiction, and massive debt. Have fun listening to your trap music and wasting days and nights without remembering anything, you'll be dead soon and your existence would have amounted to nothing. I'm a legend, I'm successful, you are clearly not, thank the nanny state for giving you welfare money you degenerate scum.
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It's fun to do once or twice, but not much more than that. When I did it, it was super fun in like a paranoid scary way. I really believed I was a government spy and that I was in enemy territory and that anyone would try to eliminate me. I talked to everyone like a seuav spy man and did my best to keep cool. I wish I wrote down my internal dialogue that shot would have been golden.

However I wouldn't do it more than a few times, it can really play with your head and change you. It shouldn't be legal, but de-criminalized for sure.
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I am the Snake that giveth Knowledge & Delight and bright glory, and stir the hearts of men with drunkenness. To worship me take wine and strange drugs whereof I will tell my prophet, & be drunk thereof! - Alister Crowley about Satan worship.
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>>72128095
they tried to use it for mind control but it didnt work so they made it illegal

soon all the cuck nations followed suit because america is god
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>>72122301
cocaine sucks
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>>72128012
djinn/demons from the hypercube are the fathers of jews, if you OBE they will enter on your body
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I'm not reading through this thread but I think this is pertinent information.

The context was that they gave volunteers either a placebo, or 75mcg of LSD, then showed them visual stimuli while they laid still in an MRI (hence why the motor cortexes are still dark in the LSD pictures... they weren't moving)

It supports the observations that LSD enhances "free association". They show a picture, and areas of the brain that normally process sound, or emotions or higher thinking/judgement or pattern recognition process the visual picture, rather than just the visual cortex that normally processes that information.

So the brain makes connections it normally does not make. That picture of a tree might now be associated with a sound, or a feeling, or a thought about philosophy, where when sober you'd just say "that's a picture of a tree"
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>>72129885

sometimes those free associations result in insights.

As previously mentioned in the thread, Francis Crick devised the structure of DNA due to LSD. The inspiration? A spiraling staircase that went on forever.

Also there's Kary Mullis, who discovered Polymerase Chain Reaction, a process by which we can amplify a tiny amount of DNA into enough that we can sequence it or do tests on it, it's the basis by which all genetic studies rely on.

His inspiration? Driving home from a surfing trip at 5am while coming down from LSD, the dashed lines on the road flashing in his vision over and over made him think of alternating hot and cold cycles in order to trigger DNA to unravel and replicate over and over.

Not everyone will have breakthrough moments like that that have practical applications. But occasionally.. it can result in something truly revolutionary.
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>>72118131
Anything that messes with your head and done for no other purpose but it is degenerate.
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>>72131482

is it degenerate when it leads to a scientific breakthrough?
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>>72124774
why don't you say something useful about the topic then?
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>>72131723
Yes. The end does not justify the means.
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>>72132303
Are you fucking retarded?
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>>72118131
Great with responsible use. There is just a preponderance of irresponsible people who take 4 tabs on their first time and then blame LSD for their panic attack rather than their own stupidity.

>>72132303
What are you doing on /pol/?
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>>72132303

so we should just keep soldiering through without any of our knowledge about genetics, just erase the last 50 years of progress there. Maybe we'd have figured it out eventually, maybe we'd still be stuck on it.

I'm sure we'd have figured out the double helix structure by the 1980's maybe.. but PCR? Probably still wouldn't have it. Which means no human genome project, no sequencing of other species dna, no identifying genes that cause cancers and diseases and other functions, no DNA evidence exonerating or convicting people of crimes, no DNA screening for diagnostics..

That's a lot of loss just to avoid being "degenerate"
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>>72118131
the people that promote and advocate this drug are people i would burry alive. The drug itself isnt bad.
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>>72131723
I agree with the notion that not all drugs are bad, and do believe that certain drugs can allow people to work through problems (both physical and emotional). However, when the drug begins to be taken for pleasure or the pure high of it, that's where I draw the line a lot of the time. I used to hold and sell various drugs and nothing made me more sad than watching college kids down tab after tab of acid just to "see shit".
Personally, I think only weed should be publicly available, mdma should be available with doctor's note along with LSD. You honestly don't really need other drugs. Most uppers have major drawbacks, and no real personal benefit other than possibly staying up for days on end.
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>>72118895
This nigga knows.
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>>72132922

But in the 2 cases I talked about, 2 scientific breakthroughs we know of for sure.. that was the scientists using LSD just to get high, they just HAPPENED to think about a problem they were studying and have an epiphany.

It's not something you can predict or attempt to do on purpose.

You can't sit in a lab, stuck on some problem, pop a tab of LSD and then suddenly it all makes sense. Not with any certainty anyway.

It's unpredictable. It's free association. Free association is making connections and patterns that don't normally exist. A majority of the time the connections made are JUNK, they are nonsensical, have no applications, and don't get us anywhere.

But every once in awhile, you hear the story about the baseball player, who fucked up what day it was and didn't realize he was supposed to play, and pitched a no hitter, high on LSD. He never pitched that well before, or ever again.

Does that mean every pitcher should take LSD? No. 99% of the time, they probably won't be able to focus to pitch at all.

This was something that could not be predicted or really controlled, it just happened, and it was when they were just using it to get high.

I'm not encouraging its use,

I am encouraging its further study so that maybe we can learn how these Epiphanies took place and how you might be able to control it, if possible.
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>>72118131
Explain in detail what it's like being high on LSD (if you don't mind).
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>>72118131
I dont need LSD for that.
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>>72118131
>I feel like ever since I've touched this stuff, I feel disconnected from people emotionally. And feel shitty as as person and flashback to all the shit I've done that I regret and think a lot about it.

LSD-induced depression. It happened to me too. See a doctor??
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>>72125925
Is that a birthmark on Assad's face or jizz stains on the photo?
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On shrooms I had an out of body experience and saw what it was like to be dead. I came to the realization that human consciousness doesn't exist inside our own bodies but somewhere out there and our bodies are able to tap into it somehow. After awhile I slowly started to notice i was in a room and then back in my own body after coming back from the other side. LSD is more mild but has similar effects.
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>>72133974
>>72133974
Fractals everywhere. Everything is beautiful. Your mind is completely open and free. It's a freedom that's not knowable by someone in a sober headspace. It basically turns you into a living soul/spirit, pure energy of self. At the same time, it disconnects you from your physical body, and you start to see yourself as a 'universe living inside a body' instead of as a body living inside a universe.

It also mixes your senses up quite dramatically, for example, it's not unheard of for someone to feel the sensation of hunger in their right arm, et cetera.
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different affects for everyone.
some people can take shit loads and go to a festival.

some people take it and have their ego destroyed (can be good for some) and their world-view completely altered.
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>>72133974

It's not a high like other drugs more of a feeling. A feeling of being connected to everything in the universe and being able to see things that you never could before.
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>>72133737
I think you need to see past the anecdotal evidence you are giving and realize that while it can be used for good, the drug can do a lot of harm to a person. I agree with you that it should be more heavily researched, but I believe that you are doing it for the wrong reasons.
Just as you said, these were chance happenings, which then begs the question, why do you think they happened to these people and not others? It's because they were already trained and in the process of figuring something out or bettering themselves when they had their breakthroughs. This is more a case to be made that people should train themselves in a field before trying LSD. More boldly, I believe that these epiphanies only occurred because they focused on the problem in an altered state of mind that allowed for them to help figure out the complexities of their fields. Similar to how if you are working on a difficult math problem and decide to sleep on it, you can sometimes figure out the answer during or just after sleeping.
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>>72125612

My mother was a medic in the 97th general in Berlin. When she got back home she told me lot's of stories. This was during Nam mind you. One of the stories she told me was, of some french artist who tried to pull his own intestines out of his torso while screaming about demons.

I wouldn't go near that shit. A bad trip can be lethal. If you really must though, you better have a couple of strong individuals who are capable of subduing and properly restraining you if you have a terrible trip. That is if it gets out of control.

You have to start gentle with bad trippers. See if you can ease them out of it. Chances are though, things could go all pear-shaped if they get froggy on you.
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>>72134284
yes, nigger souls are inferior, during obes or tripping drugs demons can enter into your body
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Can't speak for LSD but shrooms made me have anxiety attacks. Going on 7-8 years now. They're better and I can control them better but yeah.

Some people love it and others like me suffer for years afterwards. It's a cointoss. I wouldn't flip that coin desu SENPAI
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>>72135006

Er, not Berlin, but Frankfurt.
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>>72135170
give over you shill.
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>>72118131
people that think it or any psychedelics are mystic are stupid. I've done a fair amount of LSD, a few RCs, and a little DMT. it's literally just fucking around with how your brain processes information
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>>72120241
I was shocked he did this as a video. Fucking waste of time.
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>>72132303


>justify

subjective
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>>72135536
doesn't depend on your mind geberally in that case. the information present manes the difference.
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>>72132037

>appeal to accomplish
>false dilemma
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>>72118131
Literally a CIA psyop that was supplementary to the political and cultural shift in the 60s. Alfred Hubbard was an Office of Strategic Services man (OSS, the precursor to the CIA), and he was the one who promoted the whole mind-expansion meme. Timothy Leary and Richard Alpert (Ram Dass) just took it mainstream.
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>>72119416
If you are strong and don't bug out it feels like being alive for the first time. No one can comment on it unless they've tried it.

It is an amazing feeling to realize there is so much more to the world. I tried it before I researched any conspiracies, but do the research and make up your own mind.
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>>72122906
Truth.
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>>72123996

>serotonin syndrome is an opinion

i raffed
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>>72135531
Eat shit non-anxiety ridden faggot
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>>72136546
have some pregabaline.
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my life is so boring and empty, with no likelihood for improvement. i might as well start using drugs.
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I've dropped LSD several times, in 50 to 400 microgram doses.

25-100 is the ideal dose for most people IMO. Avoids the heavy levels of hallucination associated with the drug but with a degree of clear thinking and interconnected brain activity beneficial to imagination, concentration and meditation.

Tripping on LSD habitually is degenerate.
Light dosing as I have prescribed is ideal to avoid over-stimulation.

I do feel like my stronger trips "clear me out", and I feel like my emotional responses are different, but from my perspective it removes our emotional conditioning and allows us to forge new emotional pathways without the accumulated baggage we have attached to it.
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>/pol/
>Virgins talking about sex
>Dismissing experiences never had

Never change
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