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Why do the elite dick around with occult shit?

it does not really work..

do they just do it because its cool & outlandish?

do they like to pretend about a sekret club similar to this website?
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> elite
> it does not really work

pick one
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They do it because they're LITERALLY devil possessed faggot reprobates.
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>>72088351
>>it does not really work..
proofs?

cuz from where I'm sitting the "elites" seem to be doing alright
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Kabballah
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>>72088351
Demons are an actual thing. You just haven't seen one if you made this thread. Black smoke with eyes. Invisible icy cold tentacles. I've only heard stories, but I believe them.
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>>72088653
Hey fag your meme isnt gonna work. Go back to your gay ass thread
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The elite are elite because they do what works. Don't be dense.
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>>72088793
>kabballah

It never works, we know historically it never fucking worked.

Believing in magic is fucking retarded.

One step above kung fu.
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>>72088351
Like a scholar who's name is lost to the sands of time said:

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
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>>72089003
>>72088731
it does not work you fucks

go get a chicken and kill it on tape and pray to crowley for guitar skills

its not gonna work you faggots

>/pol/ is literally infested with people who believe in this
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>>72088599

>rich in resources

dubai, uae, saudi arabia, and the rest of the "rich" middle eastern countries import food, water, and raw materials by the fuckton, they live in literal deserts with no resources, the only thing they have is oil

their nations are literally useless desert welfare states funded by oil revenue from first world countries
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>>72088351
>it does not really work..
how the fuck you think meme magick works?
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>>72089089
>>72088599

also

>3rd richest nation on earth

Dubai's GDP is a laughable 83 billion

eastern bloc countries have a higher gdp
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>>72089085
We get it, it doesn't work
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>>72088351
Intense ritual has stronk bzychologigal ebbect.
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>>72088351
So if I understand Christianity correctly, the "elites" who worship all those false gods or demons or w/e, will have to pay with their souls.

Now if that truly is the case, they have like what, 60 - 70 - 80 years at most, then they are fucked and spend all eternity in hell.

Normal people however, who just try to scrape by with w/e job they have, finding joy in simple pleasures in life, some of which can be degenerate, will still go to hell because technically they are also sinners.

Now the big difference is the "elites" spend most of their lives enjoying the best this world has to offer, money, security, luxury, women, drugs, travel etc, and yet the normal person, who works soul sucking jobs, spends all his life in the daily grind ends up in the same place, because he had sex before marriage or didn't believe in God.

Fuck me, but if that is truly the case, then these fuckers have got the right idea.
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>>72088351
There is no such thing as "elite" that is a meme richfags and jews created to keep themselves in control. Their power is literally a meme, and the more faggots hold it and spread it the more powerful they get.
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>>72088351
I´m member of a group that I won´t name here. Similar to the freemasons.

It´s not about something to happen. It´s about group bonding. One CEO cucking the wife of another CEO while other dance around it with horns on their head etc.

it´s all about group bonding.. which is needed in politics, business etc.
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>>72089425
yeah i knew it was a meme ever since they let jay z in it
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>>72088351
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1CMH-Eoa94 the clock is ticking
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>>72089521
>or let something take over your existence
That doesn't sound so bad.
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>>72089085
It literally does not work.
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>>72088351

Because once you have a ton of money and power, loyalty suddenly becomes the most important thing you can have. Without loyalty, you cannot protect your money and power, much less expand it.

But loyalty is built on human emotion more than anything else. It takes a certain amount of sense of unity built deep into the human psyche to build relationships that last. It used to be that Christian rituals were enough to build loyal relationships but Christianity has lost its power over our minds. So try other methods. Masks, fire, blood, forests...anything that can penetrate deep into our minds can be used to create seemingly magical experiences where you can find real partners.

TLDR they a bunch of fags
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>>72088351
roleplaying. i bet they think its hilarious when people get confused

the real thing is still in their money/power grapping delusions tho. they think they achieve something for themselves, but they dont
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>>72088351
it's just a bit of fun.
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>>72089902
Well what sort of entities are we talking about here.
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>>72090028
So there's a 3% chance I get something good. Brb, fluffing my meditation cushion.
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>>72090218
>>72090028
Could you contact Hitler?
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>>72090218
Too late, cracking open the Lemegeton.
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>>72089248
So if we're just ignoring per capita measurement, it's safe to say that India and Brazil are two of the best countries to live in in the world
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What legal options do we have at this point?
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>>72090393
"That" board, will you not call it by it's name? Why not?
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Because if you were super rich you would do child rape sacrifice rituals to get off too.
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>>72090574
I'd never mess with that stuff, I figure I ought not dabble in that which I don't understand. What experience finally turned you away?
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>>72090393
Why'd you delete your post?
>>72090662
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>>72088351
>it does not really work..
well you will never find out with that mindset will you

if you actually stop being retarded and skim through a lot of modern esoteric and occult material and books a lot of it comes across as more comprehensive self-help guides - except they're probably a lot more effective than what you can get from a bookstore section
now since you find it all so silly you will never really consider giving it any legitimacy ever and thus will never manage to utilize some of those self-improvement techniques
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>>72089475
93

I didn't know there was a lodge in Malta

93 93/93
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>>72090574
Pleasure and pain are falsely dichotomous. So to be illuminated for the price of suffering is a bargain, don't you think? God will never sate the curious.
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>>72089085
>believes it doesn't work
>are asked why you believe it doesn't work

>HURR IT JUST DOESN'T WORK U FAGGOTS U GOTTA BE STUPID
>merica
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>>72089085
>smack hands on keyboard
>computer doesn't work, this is all bullshit
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>>72090930
93 94 96
95
I have one in a shed in my backyard
20
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>>72089085
Are you sure it doesn't work?
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>>72089085
Nice try satan, but we know it's you. Can't convince us your black magic isn't helping the elite.
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>>72089359
the normal people don't go to hell because Christ forgives them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbB2Q2l6Mfs
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>>72091109
Hes just blowing air from his ass
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>>72088351
I suspect that much like nonreligious people may still try to follow the example of Jesus because it's all about loving your neighbor and being a moral person, elites who are non-occult believers may still follow sinister teachings because they involve the ideas of maintaining elite organizations and the ideas of selfishness and material gain.
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>>72089359
>these fuckers have got the right idea

They are to be pitied, for they do not see the Truth.
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>>72088351
>it does not really work

kek

fucking normie
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>>72088351
>he doesn't know about the occult war between the Free Masons and the Jews
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>>72091372
Based papa roach
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>>72089475
>Malta

Some kind of Opus Dei?
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>>72088351
Mutual blackmail group to keep everyone in line.

Also this far out extreme shit puts people in a highly suggestible state so they can be brainwashed and indoctrinated into the cults teachings more easily.

Plus if you can get someone to get naked, drink chicken blood, and jack off in a coffin with a ribbon tied around their cock while all their peers watch them, then you can pretty much get them to do anything.
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>>72088351
>it does not really work..
Are you suuuuuuuuuure?
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>>72091621
Knight's Templar or Hospitalier
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>>72088351
>implying the occult isn't fun as fuck
>implying the occult doesn't have the best aesthetics

I wish i could could go to occult parties like in Eyes Wide Shut
If I was a billionaire I would be doing that shit every full moon.
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>>72091485
>>72091634
These

I've met a full blown Scottish Rite Freemason and he confirmed that their symbology is as sacred to them as any other religion.
The rituals aren't really that sexual and pervy like the Illuminati shit we see on jewtube. At least for the Freemasons.

I've always wondered too, how do pragmatic, sensible people who make loads of money, how come they 'believe' in all this and do the rituals and shit like they're told. It has to work on some level.
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>>72091915
93

"Every man and woman of full age (18 years), free and of good report has an indefeasible right to the introductory degrees"

93 93/93
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>>72092022
Most of my family are freemasons. There's nothing sinister about it; it's simply a social group.
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Crowleyan magick works though. Its going to be the science of the future, screencap this nigga
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>>72088351
>elite do something for thousands of years
>it does not work

pick one and only one.

Of course it works. Why else would they do it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z2KN6IaLg8
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>>72092304
>Crowleyan magick

Reprobate.
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>>72092224
True, that's what I realised too. A drinking club, more-or-less.
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I bet over half of you know very little to nothing about the major religions let alone the "occult"
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>>72092224
But many would argue thats cause theyre low level members

The freaky shit jappens at the top no?
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>>72088351

>it does not really work..

oh my sweet summer child
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>>72092460
How so?

Magick- the Science and Art of causing Change to occur in Conformity with Will
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>>72092675
There is no freaky shit. People certainly help each other professionally though. Cronyism is pretty much expected; it is a fraternal organisation after all.
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>>72092675
A lot of people say that, but they can never define the top. Or they think it's the 33rd, which is funny.
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>>72092224
right. simply a social group. /sarcasm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LDVeQ0AenY
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>>72092849
It's more like nudging probability into your favor. However bohemian grove is just a weird version of the wicker man celebration. You make an effigy of things you want to let go for the new year, burn it, and then drink yourself stupid.
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>>72092675
Freaky shit only happens after 33rd degree.
I'm not sure how many more degrees are there after that, but they are secret and all that.
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>>72092675
See?>>72093278>>72093248
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Azoth
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>>72090369
come on we all known that they cant invest on anything else than oil down there
no one wants to invest big ass factories there and boost their economy
the best thing they have outside of oil is global foundaries and that is about to change when samsung buys them
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>>72088351
If you've got a big secret that you're in a weirdo occult then you're easier to control.
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>>72093309
What am i looking at im scared
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>>72091170
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I dont know man freemasons spoop me the fuck out like shit yall gove me the fucking SHIVERS like god damn
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>>72088351
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/14333

>With fingers crossed, the old rabbit's foot out of the box in the attic, I will be sacrificing a chicken in the backyard to Moloch . . .

If this proves to be legit and it gets out hillary is done.
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>>72092022
>I've always wondered too, how do pragmatic, sensible people who make loads of money, how come they 'believe' in all this and do the rituals and shit like they're told. It has to work on some level.
because belief is a tool
you can either use it or discard it
most people conflate faith and belief (these are personal) with religion (this is socially organized) they put it in the same box and thanks to secularism ignore it all together
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>>72089828
this. nailed it.
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>>72093517
You mean getting a promotion?
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>>72093517
>If this proves to be legit and it gets out hillary is done.
No one will care. Hillary is already the next POTUS.
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>>72092589

Tell us more, Hermès Trismégiste.
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>>72088351
does not really work.

you still have to wake up to reality little one.
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>>72089359
>
Normal people however, who just try to scrape by with w/e job they have, finding joy in simple pleasures in life, some of which can be degenerate, will still go to hell because technically they are also sinners.

>not trusting Lord's judgement this hard

protip: purgatory
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>>72088351
>it does not really work
prove it.
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>>72093517
got to make chicken tedies?
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>>72089359
The elites don't do penance and never go to confession. the normal man can.
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>>72088351
>it does not really work..
Profane pleb detected.
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>>72093547
>belief is a tool
I agree with this

I've been convinced time and time again that belief can influence your reality on some level. Even if it's just a psychological placebo, it still kinda works.
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>>72092224
my father is a mason. the difference between masons and catholics is like jews and christians. there isn't anything readily sinnister about it, all the strife comes from a fundamentally different belief system that sets the tone for all the interactions.

now excuse me while i read aleister crowley and look at trap porn
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>>72088351

If it doesn't work for the super elite then why are they super elite?

Checkmate athiests.
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>>72094086
>the difference between masons and catholics
What about Catholic Masons?
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>>72094227
milo yiannopoulos?

srsly tho, my dad was a catholic mason.
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>>72088351
>it does not really work..
Good goy.
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lol because it is real. and if you cause enough torment and suffering in the world the savior would come at least in Kabbalah. You know why GHWB was named Poppy in skull bones society in yale. not because he liked himself some 9 years olds it's because he loved importing heroin during the iran contra affair and made it really popular over the years. Hell He would smoke crack cocaine through an atomizer with dick cheney up in their pentagon bunk and cheney would show his surgically enhanced penis to demonstrate why he didn't fuck dem 9 year olds.
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>>72093406
Weird how a country with such a low gdp has a city almost entirely dedicated to the super wealthy
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Because existence is fucking terrifying and the rich control a lot of it compared to the average gentleman.

The Jews manage to have nepotism and strong family ties not because of kabbalah, but because they're all in it together. Ritual is a strong method of bonding people.

Does <random occultist ritual> work? It depends what you mean by work.
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>>72089425
>There is no such thing as "elite" that is a meme richfags and jews created to keep themselves in control. Their power is literally a meme, and the more faggots hold it and spread it the more powerful they get.
Ruling class. Elite implies merit.
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>>72089085
Like any of us know the proper rituals

dumbass
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>>72089475
Are you OTO?
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The devil (Lucifer) got cucked by the alpha male Jesus.
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>>72093703
LAW does as it pleases to the fullness of itself.
laws are subject to LAW; that which is below is subject to that which is above.
Infinite upon infinite ascending and descending.
The dragon eats its own tail.
LAW remains LAW and laws remain laws.
Above remains above and below remains below.
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>>72093045
>>72092675


Not really, at least not the kind of freaky things that you would think of.

My dad is a 33rd degree Grand Master, in charge of about 14 lodges in Romania. He has been promoted to this position two years ago and he's basically in charge of all the funds those lodges have + all the organisational stuff.

I'll put in this way: he's a Grand Master and most of the time he acts as a freakin Manager for all the other low ranks.

Freemasons are nothing more but a social gathering group. They do have some weird ass rituals, especially when you are joining in, but nothing else. You are required to believe in God (or the Grand Architect) in order to be a freemason.

As far as it goes, my dad's lodges are filled with influential rich people from Romania, that usually end up helping each other business-wise. Hell, my dad successfully developed and maintained his business through his contacts from the Freemasons and now he has entered politics through the same exact way.

One fucked up thing they do have: when they join, they sign a piece of paper that dictates that their first born (only if its a son) will join the Freemasons when he reaches the age of 17. Guess who fucking declined when asked?

Also, ask me anything about it and I'll try to answer.
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>>72094227

It doesn't matter what religion you are apart of. Freemasonry is universal, meaning they accept all religions in their ranks.

My dad's lodge has jews, christians, muslims, budhists and many other.
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>>72094769
haha shill you work for anton la vey or michael aquino.
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>>72094970

actually I do work for one my dad's friend that is a high ranking freemason.

So you could say that, sure.

As I have said before, it's nothing more but influence, power and money.
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>>72094769
and by the way all of this shit is already exposed in alfred pikes leaked book
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>>72094970
>michael aquino.
Kek
America has state-sponsored Satanism
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>>72090988
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>>72094769
>he's basically in charge of all the funds those lodges
Well that's weird. Man, that shit would not fly anywhere else.
>when they join, they sign a piece of paper that dictates that their first born (only if its a son) will join the Freemasons when he reaches the age of 17
Yea, I'm not believing that. I may have only been to one Romanian Lodge, but I know they're regular, and wouldn't do something like that.
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>>72095071
You mean Albert Pike?

Yea sure, them believing in Lucifer (the archangel, not the satanic version) and so forth. What people do not understand is that at some point in their history, those stuff actually mattered.

Nowadays, it's nothing more but a circle-jerk for rich people. Think of it like an exclusive golf club
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>>72095071
Pike had a leaked book?
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>>72088653
fuck off back to your thread you DEGENERATE
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>>72089475
THE WORLD IS RUN BY KEKS
KEKLUMINATI FUCKS REEEEEEEEEE
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>>72093517
>Arias said the Europeans have been calling him over the past two days, and have fallen into line with the US; the Swedes, as head of the EU, and have told him that they will take their cue from the US and will support US actions. Arias, Biehi said, was extremely complimentary of the "great political instincts shown by Secretary Clinton."
So how much is the bet that this letter which wasn't even written by Shillary herself was released on purpose?
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>>72095061
but its also child trafficking (franklin cover-up)
importation of nazi scientists mostly related to mind kontrol (rockets were a huge cover up) I mean seriously you bring in walt disney and have all of these great fantasy themed programs great for indoctrinating and sexualizing young children to be used to blackmail other political officials. The fucked up thing is that this has become a by product of our own society. The 5% occult has created a 100% populace willing to take others liberties for a price.
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It works but no one ever tries it because the Elites have successfully convinced everyone that it doesn't work.
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>>72095113

>Well that's weird. Man, that shit would not fly anywhere else.

I kno', right? You don't even want to know how he got in that position. The amount of backstabbed friends is quite high, that and the funds he donated along his 20 years or so ride with the Freemasons. Now he has complete control over the funds, but don't think that he can steal or anything, those funds are controlled and they actually have people looking out of them. My dad just prioritises where the money goes and why.

>Yea, I'm not believing that. I may have only been to one Romanian Lodge, but I know they're regular, and wouldn't do something like that.

That's what my mum told me when I was younger. When I was 17, my dad actually took me to the lodge and I had a chat with his godfather (the man that introduced him to the freemasonry). He asked me if I believed in God, I said no, i reasoned with him on why, and that was the last I've heard of it.
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Here is the book written by the SS when they kicked out/confiscated all the Freemasons and their things.

http://www.megafileupload.com/nnmN/Freemasonry__Ideology,_Organization,_and_Policy_by_Dieter_Schwarz_(a_SS_manual_for_secret_policing).pdf
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>>72095177
yeah because the real money has been made already. It's just a by product of our own manipulation. and I bet it's close had a lot to do with the auditing that was going on in the trade center. and the secretary holding americas purse strings would have a lot to answer to if those buildings didn't come down.
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>>72095404
read about the hitler himmler research based on the study of multi-generational familys of incest. The chosen ones if you will...
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>>72095386
>Now he has complete control over the funds,
It's actually kinda funny, because of the recent inquest in those areas. You'd think that kind of thing would come up, given that they did the same thing in France and were excommunicated.
>That's what my mum told me when I was younger.
Yea, non-members tend to get things wrong a lot.
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>>72095386
do you remember being crib molested or was your background not occult / jesuit based.
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>>72095269

You may be right, I'm not saying you are or not. But nowadays, they have nothing to do with their 100-years ago selfs. Hell, I'll limit myself to Romania, so I won't get anything wrong.

They are literally a circle-jerk comprised of very rich and influential people. They help each other A LOT, one of their most important creeds is that " you always need to help a brother". What does that mean?

"x" wants to start a business. He doesn't have the money, nor the experience. His brothers will provide the funds, the leadership, his business will thrive. After that, "x" will help those brothers out in the future, while giving more money to the freemasonry in order to advance in rank (seeing that his brothers actually help him).

That's just an example. My dad had a successful business for the last 15 years or so, and he was helped quite a lot by his brothers, with contracts and funds. Now, he is running for a position in the upcoming elections, and all of his campaign managing stuff is provided by his brothers.

Do you get it know?

>>72095506
>Yea, non-members tend to get things wrong a lot.

haha, the amount of times my mum has said weird stuff about them ... I would be able to write a fan-fiction book about it. From them being satanists to them having closed-doors orgies or so ... the truth is far far away from that.

>>72095739

Nope, no such thing. My dad joined when I was about 6-7 and nothing weird happened for most of my childhood.

My parents did divorce because my father was putting more and more time towards his business and the freemasonry, but that's a normal thing in their ranks. Hell, I think 70% of the people that comprise the lodges in Romania are divorced.
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>>72095863
>Hell, I think 70% of the people that comprise the lodges in Romania are divorced.
That seems unlikely, since divorced members are often not welcome, and members who have spent too much time on the Craft instead of their family are either given leave or kicked out.
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>>72088351
>elite fuck with occult.
>elite are elite
>99% don't fuck with occult
>are not 1%
Seems to be working for them, actually.
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>>72088351
>it does not really work..
But it does, at least for a while it will.
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>>72095916

When they join, most of them are happily married and so forth. They divorce while inside, after a couple of years or so. I'm talking from my experience and what I've seen.

Of course, that 70% came straight from my ass, I wouldn't be able to know the real number. But the amount of friends my dad has that are divorced and freemasons is incredibly high.

Hell, my dad divorced because he had to cover up for his godfather - he was having an affair, didn't want his wife to find out (loads of money involved); my dad stepped in and took the blame, even buying plane tickets and hotel reservations in his name for that guy and his mistress -

My mum found that, huge fights, I was sent to a boarding school in England and they eventually got separated.
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>>72093843

>Catholicucks
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>>72095071

Albert Pike's book is only for the Southern states of the Free Masonry. Not all Mason lodges are the same.
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>>72096573

I've always thought that Albert Pike was referring to the Scottish Rite, did he not?
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>>72096573
>https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/14333
my brother a thousand candles can be lit from one and the life of the candle would not be shortened.
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>>72091485

TELL ME!
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>>72088351
Because physicalism and determinism are memes, atheism is the ultimate blue pill and the elite use the knowledge of the mysteries along with everything else they have to stay on top.
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