Can we have at least a semi-serious discussion on the current state of the job markets in the developed West and what we can do about it?
>graduate with a PhD in physics
>can only get a job in a call centre
>commits suicide
>>72027752
of course, he was white
I guess he "Fell" for the STEM meme.
>>72027752
I know this is terrible but that guy's face just has the most magnificent look of defeat I've ever seen
>>72027942
Son of a bitch!
>do study to do research
>isn't a researcher
Well, he did search a job but that's not the fucking same.
his should've learned a trade.
>>72027752
Fuck him. Survival of the fittest.
>muh PhD! I deserve better than anybody else!
>>72027752
That's what being marginalized out of the economy by immigrants looks like. The same shit's happning in America too to where if you're white with a colelge degree you got jack shit nothing except student loan debt.
There never has been a job for Physics pHD's. Only the famous once are remembered. 99,999999% of the rest of them became teachers.
Take notes you delusional stem faggots.
>>72027752
He looks young for 31.
Anyways what was he expecting to do with a PhD in physics?
Is there really a market for that outside of academia?
>>72027752
"Fell to his death".
What's next, someone tragically falling headfirst into a noose?
We'll only get more of this shit as we're pushing the start of life up into the late 20s. You're supposed to be established and have a house and a nest egg to live on with a family at that point.
Now people are just stepping out into middle age before realizing they made the wrong choices 15 years earlier and they're fucked.
Stop importing huge numbers of immigrants
They drive down our wages, as we're forced to subsidize their taking of our jobs
>>72027942
>not using Carlos
>>72027752
welfare queens get to relax and breed out of control while hardworking whites kill themselves. What a world we live in
>>72027942
>>72027752
Is this just proof that college is a waste?
>>72027752
Word of advice - If you're a straight white man looking for employment either pretend to be gay, mixed race (blag that you're half Arab or Jew) or Muslim.
>>72027752
This is why college shouldn't be free. People wait until they're 30 to get into the Job market and then wonder why immigrant who finished college at 20 are taking all the jobs.
Build wall.
>>72027942
jesus christ
>>72027752
>graduate with a PhD in physics
>can only get a job in a call centre
>commits suicide
>the taxpayer still foots the bill
>>72028548
Or move out of the uk
It's sad pol isn't taking this more seriously mainly because they are dipshits themselves who will never achieve anything.
But it's sad seeing a world will no good neets seem to have it easier than someone who worked hard to get where they are at and the ambition to continue on only to hit an impenetrable wall.
This is where our finest and our intellectuals are ending up as we continue encouraging neet life.
>>72027942
>>72027942
Fuck you
Very sad story, but unfortunately he's one of many many young people who believe the world owes you job or a living.. We are continuously told you work hard, get the qualifications, and you will get the job of your dreams.. well it doesn't.. not right away as you expect... You have no more right to a job than the person next to you, BUT you will have the right to apply and go up the ladder quicker as you have done the hard work in training whist the person in the job has the right to work there way up learning on the job. My point it.. for goodness sake don't leave education expecting instant job, but don't give up! Hopefully others who may feel the same as this poor guy can read these comments and see so many other well qualified people also had to work their way in to a position.. but they DID get there in the end.. don't throw it all away like this. Stick in there, and you will get the reward.. eventually.
>>72028641
real talk
If Trump gets elected, I will apply for a job helping to build the wall
>>72027752
What a cuck he should have opened a youtube channel now look he can't save teh white race.
>>72028383
yes, you can be a barista
Also only autists get to finish a degree in physics so he probably should've asked for NEET money
>>72027752
Why the fuck do they word it so euphemistically? He fell, yes. But this was very likely a suicide attempt. When you say that he fell, it almost implies an accident.
>>72027942
well done
>>72028339
The options you have with a physics degree and almost unlimited
There's actually a shortage of maths and physics teachers in the UK
That's the last thing people do
>>72027752
I would have liked that story a lot more if he had gotten his PhD in gender studies.
The fact that his PhD was in physics saddens me.
Frankly the college system should be abolished completely. It should be restricted to research and academia rather than basic job training (like it currently is).
This is the logical conclusion of any system that trains people for jobs whether they're in demand or not.
>>72027752
This should PROVE to all the rethugliKKKans out there that education for EVERYONE should be the MOST important voting issue THIS election cycle.
Despite not getting a job in his field, Dr. Elliot continued to study the effects of gravity until his death. THIS IS WHY EDUCATION MATTERS!
>>72027942
>>72028785
Thank you, this guy gets it.
>>72028548
How does being gay end up known by employers anyway? I'm gay but I'm not plastering I'M A FAGGOT on CVs
>>72027752
Silvio Santos is a retard mormom motherfucker who manipulates peoples lives in Brazil just like this guy. I bet Phillip got his degree but didn't wanted to join Freemanson to rape kids and was killed. It's basically the same destiny that I'm going through. The difference is that I'm not even getting a job.
Oh about Silvio Santos, this dead reatard motherfucker CERTAINLY invests mess with other people's lives because it makes him profit.
The next step in his plan is to use one of his million prostitutes to date computer scientists, aiming the one who will get a job at IBM, because they will develop a new cruptography to USA and Brazilian army, since Apple will open Iphone crypto to help fight against terrorism.
You may not believe it, but You only need to live here to understand how disgusting this country is. For fuck sake, babies are singing songs about pussies turning into cunts!
>>72027752
Fuck, I'm pretty thick skinned, but that article made me very sad. Poor guy.
He should have tried this:
>>72027752
Because you can get a top notch Chinese PhD who will basically work for a visa and peanuts (they are rich anyway, they just need a visa). STEM degrees in NYC, London & SF are fucked.
>>72029179
they can tell by your faggot mannerisms
Doing phd in physics atm... was nice knowing you /pol/.... jk still have a year to live till unemployment
>>72028317
>this
Its globalism at its finest
>>72028785
Despite your awful English, that is correct.
Having a degree only gives you the opportunity to say "Hey, I have advanced knowledge on this topic," but the thing is, as far as STEM stuff goes, you learn more on the job than you do studying.
As a bio major, I learned more in my first 6 months of working as an extra pair of hands in a lab, than I did through almost my entire college life.
>>72027942
kek
fucking britbong
>>72028785
Funny thing is, once you actually get into the workforce you'll realize how many incompetent, lazy and shitty workers there are in every jobs.
Even at big presitigous companies you can find plenty of unmotivated, stressed and unhappy people, like at Amazon etc.
>>72029250
But they can't. I've never had anyone tell I'm gay before I mention my boyfriend :^)
>>72029179
Some employers are ~equal opportunity employers. In their job applications they will inquire about your race, disabilities, sexual orientation, gender, et al.
>>72027752
>Graduate with PhD in Physics
>White masterrace
>9.8 m/s^2 starting
How can non-STEM fags even compete?
>>72027752
>PHD in Physics
>Lives in Englandstan
Found the problem there.
England is a shithole where nothing of value is produced. It's Bangladesh tier now.
>>72028212
I hate you tradefags. Trade skills will be obsolete in a decade, if not less, due to automation. I don't know why people keep pushing the idea that trade skills is a decent career choice, the future won't include careers involving physical labor. Its uncreative work that any machine will able to do. I have far more respect for Liberal Art graduates than I have for any plumber, construction workers, or wielders. At least Liberal Art graduates can entertain people. Trade workers are literally just mindless tools.
>>72028427
Yeah, I pictured that in my head when the article spoke about a
>Neighbor hearing footsteps on the roof at 9:30am, but thought nothing of it, and went back to sleep.
I know that neighbor could've had a night job or something, but I like to think that he was some immigrant sucking on the government tit, and sleeping all day.
>>72027752
>And I'd like to conclude... with a physics demo.
This is a chilling vision of my future
>masters in physics
>can only get a part time job in a bakery
>feel like killing myself every day
I got a certificate in MS Excel and I make more money than STEM majors lol
>>72028022
Its the Brit cuck look of lost empire
>>72028785
>believes the world owes them
Yet we import thousands of useless immigrants and TFWs give them good places to live on our dime and give them priority for jobs because of "anti job discrimination" laws.
Starting to think I should just pretend to be a fag or a Muslim when applying for jobs and yell discrimination if they don't hire me.
Isn't the point of a job to make money so use to enable or enhance your survival?
If you are okay with killing yourself and do then kill yourself, then there was no point in having a job in the first place - so no reason to be upset about not getting a better one - so no point in wanting to kill yourself
>PhD
>not even once
>>72028828
DESIGNATED
>>72029409
Automation is a meme, but even if it wasn't you would still need tradesmen to repair and maintain those machines, you fucking retarded faggot.
>>72029409
The ones that make money are either unionized or business owners. The rest (maybe even unions) will become test subjects for a matrix like containment. I'm curious to hear their opinions, don't scare them away.
>>72029034
>this
>>72027752
Cheeky fucking sadist british humor, phyicist falls to death.
>>72027752
If women weren't in the workforce this never would've happened.
>>72029580
POO
>>72029583
>can't into machine repairbot
Im a high school dropout and i have a better job that pays better than a call center employee
Call center jobs over here are for niggers and arab woman who wear headscarfs because nobody else is willing to employ them
Even garbage collector's make more money
>>72029409
>Trade skills will be obsolete in a decade, if not less, due to automation
You're insane. That's not going to happen for a long while, if ever. You've obviously never worked on anything.
But that's not to say I totally disagree with your post, I'm in a trade, I make OK money. Do I wish I did more with my life? Absolutely. I would've loved to have gone to college. But I didn't and that's that. At least I can live, and have spending cash. So I don't think
>Hurr Durr trades
Is always the answer. That guy did what he was supposed to do, as best as he could, and got fucked, and gave up. And it's sad. Personally, I would've gone to the US if I were him. Lockheed is always hiring.
>>72027752
What are some easy and relatively cheap business a person can start? I don't want to be rich I just want enough that i can live and not be sucking Shekelstein's corporate dick.
Deport the foreign work force, stop giving out visas & give companies incentives to stop outsourcing. START WARS SO POPULATIONS DECREASE.
It could be worse, he could have been recording commentary over video games on Youtube.
>>72029243
>this
>>72028548
I pretend that I'm disabled, which is a protected class under USA federal law.
>>72029179
If that was the first thing that you told them, they'd probably pay you better.
>>72029409
Automation is pretty much impossible for my trade. Ill take my chances faggot.
>>72029583
>Automation is a meme
where did you think of this
>>72029752
Fuck.
>Is NOT always the answer
>>72027752
Today College now serves as a way to keep the population numb and enslaved. "Just smart enough to work the machines, just dumb enough to passively to accept shittier hours and pay".
They're extorting money from American people on false realities. (Eg. The well-rounded education myth and the contradictions that surround it).
>>72029360
How is it one can be so open about this now IRL? Where I am if someone said they were gay they'd get the shit kicked out of them
>>72027752
Sorry but I think this has more to do with mental stability than directly "the system"
The man sure had several options, plus, if it gets tough in the beginning you immediately end it all?
put on your application you're a trans gay nigger woman, you'll get a no-show job because they're afraid of a lawsuit, just collect a paycheck
>>72027752
Diversity is the new mantra in the developed west.
>>72027942
Keked harder
>>72027752
That happens when autists, who would otherwise be in sheltered homes, go out to the wild and need to compete.
Nothing of value lost.
>>72027752
Qualifications are secondary to getting hired, what matters above all else is if you are a good person who people would want to work with
I've been in Acquisitions for a number of years, someone who doesn't have all the necessary qualifications but is more than willing to learn, work hard and is a nice person will get hired over a literal scientific genius who is a dick.
>>72029758
Get a market stand or little food truck
Even a hot dog cart
Cheap as fuck
Can make a relative good income
Easygoing lifestyle
Live free without boss
>had a dream last night that i should've finished grad school
>read this thread
Soykaf and company scrip when.
>>72029409
>automation
What happens to everyone and the economy when labour is no longer required? There will only be a finite amount of positions in science and engineering. services pay FA and will probably my be the first to be automated. Maybe there will be some jobs repairing the machines also. Sure everyone can go into an advanced science or engineering or repair degree but we can't employ all those people.
>>72029384
underrated
>>72027752
I've actually been thinking about offing myself for the same reasons. Some fucking gook or ahmed gets the position i have been working so hard for. I also grew in the samw ghetto but because im not a minority i get fucked. The only reason i haven't killed myself is because I'm too much of a pussy.
>>72029986
Well automation of endless tasks in endless locations and circumstances on a day by day basis is a long long way off. And even then a machine of this ability would cost more than employing someone for decades.
Not to mention the thing would have to drive its self from premise to premise. Oh and understand and interpret what the customer wants
>>72027752
Welcome to the wonderful world of unfettered free trade, globalism, and labor arbitrage.
>>72030214
> little food truck
>...
>Easygoing lifestyle
>Live free
That flag
I'm going to be graduating as a law student, I am probably quite fucked cos I am interested in being a barrister.
>>72029409
Automate being an electrical contractor and running wire and installing fixtures and breaker boxes, dumb leaf, I dare you.
>>72030026
It's just the sad way of the world now.
I live in South Alabama. You'd think we wouldn't put up with this shit, yet I see mentally ill faggots, furry spergs with ears and tails and shit, and transotherkin "things" of all sorts almost every day.
Nowhere is safe anymore.
Someone post the 2 panel comic of the dad first raising his son and then years later his son with an army of degenerates while his dad holds a handgun to his head because it's relevant as hell.
>>72030437
Jokes on you, I've never worked in fast food. I did however work in a 24 hour pharmacy, sold condoms to fags at 3 in the morning, and got robbed a few times. Night shift is the best.
>>72029671
WHO WILL REPAIR THE REPAIRBOT?!
But no, seriously, automation is shit and can't compete at this time. My industry was gung-ho about robots until the numbers stopped adding up.
>>72030491
Law firms generally prefer to hire physicists and engineers, analytical and methodic mind, etc, etc.
Law firms were always in the physics department when I was in university
You may have made a mistake
>>72028386
I've really grown to hate this newspeak that the media has ramped up it's usage of in the past few years.
Watch out for the increasingly common "asian attack", these (pic related) japanese sushi chefs and chinese acrobats are prone to..... explosive behavior if you know what I mean.
>>72030407
man why the fuck is history considered a liberal art
it's not art and it's not liberal. Goddamn I hate libscum.
>>72027752
I have a degree in chemical engineering, my friends and family just say "work a dead end job until you find something!"
What they don't know is that I have to lie about having a degree when applying for those jobs or else I won't even get an interview. Who would have thought I'd be more marketable without spending 4 years of my life getting a STEM degree.
Good times.
>>72030487
I know people who are became millionaires after owning a Belgian fries stand
You can get rich quick owning one of those over here
>>72027752
Meanwhile, I just finished my Bachelor of Arts in a predominantly female field and found a position with a decent starting salary straight away
>Stay mad STEM-cucks
Maybe he shouldn't have gotten to 31 before trying to find his first job
Employers want hard working, dependable people, not lazy bums with another piece of paper
Jesus Christ spending 13 years in tertiary education, kid must have sucked his mum and dad dry
>>72027942
Well done you sonovabitch
>>72028893
Because it's against the narrative that all whites are evil and live ontop of piles of gold that we horde from our women and minorities (oh wait who does that sound like?)
Anyway, if a woman, muslim, or brown person did this, the article would read SHOCKING: OPPRESSED WOMAN DESTROYED BY WHITE HEGEMONY SELF-SLAUGHTERS WITH CHAINSAW SOLD TO HER BY WHITE-OWNED BUSINESS
>>72029360
should i start adding my r9k mental disabilities on my cv?
>>72030840
>Jesus Christ spending 13 years in tertiary education, kid must have sucked his mum and dad dry
t. Greece
>>72027752
That guy fell for the STEM meme hard. A Doctorate in Physics, and then he just starts filling out job applications? What the fuck kind of job was he expecting?
>physics
Fucking LMAO what a retard
>>72030840
This. I've got 5 years of back to back working experience, and though I have no degree (yet), I have a better chance of getting hired than people with nothing BUT a piece of paper
>>72029605
HVAC tech making 80k for 7 months of work here. Go fuck yourself.
>>72030314
Back to Lainchan with you.
>graduate high school at 17
>went into plumbing and pipefitting
>15 months later have dual certificate welding and plumbing
>$8,000 in debt
>begin apprenticeship and make 30k first year fully paying my debt
>build solid knowledge base and connections
>am now 22 and make $90,000/year as a private contractor working 30 hour weeks last year
>overbooked this year, going to clear over six figures
>own my own home with a 15 year mortgage, two trucks and a muscle car
>looking for a wife who'll be a stay at home wife and raise the 4 children I want to have
Sorry degree cucks. Looks like you don't get the American Dream like me.
>>72027752
He was supposed to commit to academia, that's what you do with a PhD. I mean, unless he was bad enough that he couldn't even find a teaching gig.
>>72027752
Goddamn is college even worth it anymore? I've been holding out on seeing what to major in but it seems everything is fucked
>>72029409
Skilled welders, plumbers, electricians, mechanics, and gunsmiths will always be in demand so long as we use those technologies for a living.
you can do lots of things with a physics phd that has nothing to do with physics and pays well - e.g. banking and (IT-) consulting. Source: i have a physics phd
ROBOTS GON TAKE THE JOBS
WORLDS GON GO ONE OF TWO WAYS
EVERYBODY CONTRIBUTES SOMETHING, DON'T EVEN MATTER HOW GOOD IT IS, SUCH AN ABUNDANCE OF WEALTH IN THE WEST THAT PEOPLE WILL PAY FOR JUST ABOUT ANYTHING, INDIVIDUALS HANDLE THEIR SHIT AMD GET IT ON
OR OPTION TEW
LEFTY LIBERUL JEWY LIZARD NARSTIES PISS AND MOAN FOR NEETBUX, GET IT, PLANET CONSUMED IN MERE DECADES, PERHAPS A MUSLIM HORDE THE ONLY THING THAT COULD WIPE THE SLATE CLEAN?
As I see's it, we're a teaterin just evenly at this moment. Both camps, the absurdly abundant and the debilitatingly entitled have their presence felt today. Who will you serve? World of warcraft irl. Hyped.
>>72030011
>colleges
>where people are force fed liberal doctrine
>>accept shitter hours and pay
What rock have you been living under this whole time? We're in an age where college kids are screaming for higher wages and free college because they feel shafted.
>>72029409
How are you supposed to get a robot to go into your roof and clean out a raccoon nest? Plunge a toilet? Do electrician work without blowing itself when its metal arms accidentally touch a socket?
I agree that automation will take over several industries, particularly construction and fast food. Construction will eventually be like a box of LEGOs that unpacks itself, and the robot knows exactly how to put the parts together as long as the box contains 100% of the parts. Fast food will be a touch screen where you place your order and put cash in/swipe your card and the robots churn out your food to perfection in 30 seconds with maybe one person in the restaurant to do quality checks before it goes to the customers.
>>72028339
can confirm, at my high school one teacher was a doctor
spoiler: he taught physics
>>72027942
Well done lad.
>>72029671
Machine doctor machine lawyer machine accountant machine machine-maker machine people
>>72031166
Having ANY Ph.D can land you. Solid paying job outside of the field. People just get this idea that they HAVE to get a physics job and HAVE to do this and that.
UK uni degrees are a bit weird. If you want a good job guaranteed ONLY do one of the following...
Economics at top tier uni
Accountancy at top tier uni
Engineering at respected engineering uni, ideally chem eng or electrical eng
Medicine
Computer Science at top tier uni
Law
All other degrees will just lead to generic graduate programs and if you want to get onto them you might as well do a few years studying psychology at leeds met or some other shit uni.
Doing a masters doesnt help that much desu but its an extra year at uni and many do years in industry, a phd is next to useless
Top tier unis are oxbridge, imperial, ucl, edinburgh and for selected courses the likes of leeds, bristol and durham
>>72031020
> $30K a year in private school costs a year
> Common core and SWJ training
You can't even procreate properly. Why do you think that is?
>>72031150
Gunsmithing is about as dead as blacksmithing or ferrier.
I would know. Our family business was gunsmithing for centuries and although we still do relatively well from it, no one new is getting into it.
Basically if you aren't of a family or tradition you aren't getting involved in any meaningful way.
>>72029179
A large and rapidly growing amount of companys/corporations have "diversity quotas" and will ask about your sexual orientation, race, religion ect. Mentioning that you're gay on your CV will significantly help you.
How badly this shit will affect you depends on where you live but it's going to get much worse and it will reach everyone eventually. Don't be surprised if the government starts encouraging it or even mandates it in the future.
It's a vile era we're living in to be a white man in the west. It got so bad for me I seriously considered converting to Judaism.
>>72028741
Who the fuck do you think is encouraging, causing, and exacerbating it? Those in power who seek to maintain it.
>>72031125
No. Get a job delivering food or making coffee at starbucks. You learn sales and customer service and can maybe hope to have 2 jobs that pay 9 bucks an hour.
Its all that is waiting for you after you graduate anyhow. The boomers cant retire so you are competing with people with 40 years workforce experience.
>>72030556
This. Good to be an elec'
>>72027752
People need to let the job entitlement meme die already and stop believing that they are supposed to get a job after they graduate.
Unless you actually care about to you are studying and know how you can use your skills to help others, you need to get the fuck out. Noone gives a shit about your diploma no matter what it is unless you are actually useful at something.
>>72031340
Still need physical smiths to do the work. A lot of high end custom guns are handmade. It's niche, but alive, at least here in America. And he's referring to the trade, not necessarily the job outlook.
>>72031260
A close, and very wealthy, friend of mine did literature at Leeds then Classics at Oxford.
Being an aristocrat helped, of course.
>>72027752
>doing a PhD and not staying in academia
>expecting companies to hire you because you can solve differential equations
>>72028785
That all works fine and dandy if there werent foces at work trying to drive down native employment and opportunities at every turn. Its not impossible now per se, but its been happening over time. The middle class has been marked for destruction.
>>72029492
I made $100,000 (tax-free) last year with a degree in liberal arts =)
>>72031226
>construction will be like a box of legos that unpacks itself
What would you do with the enormous machine that would be required to automatically build a skyscraper of the modern order? Fly it away to another job?
>>72028393
I dont think immigrants are taking PhD jobs tbqh family
Here's the real question
>Trade
or
>College
>>72027752
enjoying your life stem master race?
>>72029986
The reality is that automated facilities end up employing more people after the conversion.
The fear of automation taking jobs is unfounded.
You end up with more machines on site, more people to direct them and more people to maintain them.
Either you see an across the board transition to other jobs, or an increase.
The goal is to increase productivity of the individual worker, not replace them.
>>72031597
More like
>not having internships during your schooling so that people have a reason to want you
There are plenty of jobs for a doctor in physics, but none of them want someone with no job experience and no interning.
>>72031424
I find it disgusting. I want a job normally not because of some quota.
>>72031499
Gunsmithing will not make you any sort of money and you are far better off getting into basically anything else. There is no stability in it whatsoever.
We still require them but they are few and far between. It simply isn't necessary. Unless you can get work at Holland And Holland, Purdey and the likes you aren't going anywhere.
>>72031686
Immigranys on h1b visas most definitely are - or have you missed all the imported indians/chinese/nigerian doctoral workers making a pittance?
>>72031558
mate once your in the circle you can do what you want and subjects like history and classics are rich boy magnets, but I go to one of those top unis listed and for every upper class snob studying a liberal arts degree theres about 10 confused, normal people who have no idea what the fuck they are doing
law and economics is the best way to penetrate that circle
>>72031424
If you're claiming to be gay to get a job you're doing sex work. You are that level of scum so densely crowded together that they only want the fruitiest and most submissive. This is capitalism in a corporatocracy.
>>72031260
>tfw choice between CE and CS at portsmouth
Feels bad mang
>>72031424
>actually converting
>not just saying you're a jew
>>72028785
TITCR
>>72030840
>implying lazy or unreliable people can get phds
jesus christ, what planet are you from?
>>72029492
People really have no idea that you can build an entire career off Excel. I work in Corporate Finance, training to be an analyst, and some of my co-workers do nothing but crunch data on Excel (easy work for them once you do it for a couple years) and get paid out the ass and promoted constantly because no one else at the company either knows jack shit about Excel or has any desire to try and learn it. These days I will just sit next to them with my laptop and watch what they are doing. I want a slice of that pie.
>tfw trying to learn Big Data plug-ins for Excel like Hyperion
it's like trying to find your neighborhood on Google Earth if all you have is your mouse and the zoom in/out but if you go in the wrong direction once it starts all over
>>72029583
You sound like a Luddite, lol. You know just 150 years ago people were going around and trying to destroy machines to stop automation? It can't be stopped.
>>72029758
Starting a business is like pushing a gigantic rock up a steep hill by yourself. Absolutely horrible at first. Then, you get a little better at it and figure out ways to make it budge a little more each day. Finally, after years of grueling work, you reach the top of the hill and the rock goes down the other side on its own momentum, and you can sit back and hire people to keep it going for you.
Working for a corporation is like having the rock attached to a huge crane called Limited Liability, owned by the government, that helps pull the rock up to the top for you.
>>72030011
It's only like that if you major in dumb shit because you fell for the "follow your passion" meme in high school. Granted it is a hideous lie to tell kids, but anyone who falls for it deserves it.
>>72030358
Don't kill yourself. Just keep self-improving.
>>72030491
A lawyer I once talked with about law school told me to double major in something that will get you into law school and something related to the field of law you want to study. Makes you hireable.
>>72028741
He 100% wasn't trying hard enough to get a job.
We hired a Chemistry PHD student a while ago, he worked with us a year (as a test analyst) and eventually got a job at GCHQ.
>>72029492
Don't worry, some CS major will probably come around and automate what you do with a script
>>72030319
>everyone can go into an advanced science or engineering or repair degree but we can't employ all those people.
You're really overestimating the average IQ and competency of the common person if you believe anyone can just simply major in science or engineering and earn the degree. Why do you think STEM is rare among college students? Math is difficult and the average person doesn't refuse to major in those fields because they won't do it, it's because they can't.
Look, the average university graduate IQ is around 110-115, with STEM fields ranking higher than that if the average IQ by college major is separated even further. For example, Physics graduates have an IQ average of over 130, that's near genius level. The average of American or Canadian is around 90-100. Half of the total population falls below that range. Yet, you believe the majority of them can major in STEM fields?
>>72031625
New York High Class Prostitute?
>>72031778
From experience in the NHS angolan doctors are great. They will ask you about demons, god, you like that stuff in America.
>>72031340
Here in America gun smithing is still a profitable trade. It's struggling in this recession because it's not a need for most people, but it's not going anywhere.
It's a shame black smithing is mostly dead in any meaningful way.
>>72031845
It's greece.
They cant even be relied on to pay their debt.
>>72031907
Do you have more of that art? Who is the artist?
>>72027752
Sury Great Britain needs to let in another three million Muslims for jobs that don't exist when they already have massive unemployment and don't have enough jobs for people that already live there.
>>72031204
That is true but it does not matter. The cycle will continue whether we like it or not. The only form of protest is economic protest; american parents pulling the kids out of college en masse
>>72031845
The planet where this Twitter account exists and its images come from real peer-reviewed articles and PhD thesis
https://twitter.com/real_peerreview
Face it: tertiary education is becoming devalued. Billionaires and entrepreneurs like Peter Thiel are already telling kids to get the fuck out of college asap.
>>72031625
>tax-free
go on
>>72029492
Your employer's a retard obviously.
>>72027752
at least he got hired at one job extra than the typical /pollack
Phd in Physics is pretty specific, but if he just had a bachelors in Physics, couldn't he work in IT? If he got some certs, he'd always have an advantage of knowing WHY the equipment worked the way it did, not just how to make it work. Seems like a great skill to have to be a Systems Analyst and advise businesses.
http://www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/computer-systems-analysts.htm
>Job Outlook, 2014-24 21% (Much faster than average)
Stop giving degrees to anyone and their value will rise.
> americlaps commenting on a a uk uni thread
the two systems are fundamentally different, you actually have to work at american college
in the uk the only things that matter, and they matter massively, are A-levels. You get straight As in them you can manipulate your way on to anything you want and you only have yourself to blame if you fuck up
>>72032168
not an argument.
>>72031921
I'm the one doing the automating friend.
>>72028383
The guy would have walked into a quant job with a bank or a hedge fund. Guaranteed. At the high levels of finance, they don't look for people with finance degrees; they look for physicists and mathematicians who can program.
This whole story stinks to high heaven. In the UK, most 'general' graduate programs and those in The City - the Big4, the banks etc. - accept people from any degree discipline but put a premium on those with 'analytical skills'. This means that being qualified in something like physics puts you pretty much at the front of the queue. HR would have been all over this guy's dick.
t. guy with a physics degree
>>72031992
We export to the USA and every month I am crossing off gun smiths. Anyone not involved in FFL or restoration is out. The only profitable and independent gunsmith I deal with is in Georgia and that's due to his offering courses in and around the South/South Western states in everything.
It is interesting and useful but not profitable.
>>72027752
>thinks he is too good for a job
>kills himself
yeah... i can't believe that was the only reason.
>>72031125
Don't listen to the bitter retards here. College is worth it if you get the most out of it. I work in Finance and here is what I did:
1. Pick a degree you can get a job in.
2. Next, join a student org or business fraternity that has a lot of people in that field. They will direct you to all campus career fairs and employer visits to campus that you can get a suit and resume paper for.
3. Never give a university rep a resume printed on printer paper. They will throw it straight in the trash).
4. If you want to get into business, drink alcohol at bars a lot. Socialize and build a network. The guys in the student org or business fraternity will show you how it's done.
5. Work an internship, study abroad, or take summer classes every summer. If neither, volunteer somewhere. Never, ever have nothing to show for a summer on your resume. And always be able to talk about whatever you put on it.
6. Turn that internship into a job opportunity. Work your ass off and never be late or absent. Your boss will start hinting at it becoming a job if he likes you.
7. Assuming all steps completed, kick back all senior year and try to get straight B's, comfy in the fact you have a job secured and a huge network of people in the field of business you are entering into.
>>72032322
How is it that a physics degree sets you up for finance?
>>72027942
2nd post best post
>>72032315
I'm not trying to argue? Just saying the truth.
>>72027752
It's fubar, there is no way of fixing it without massive depopulation. This guy should have just used his intelligence to create the life he wanted for himself elsewhere. Fuck this rotten world, let the women and their brown hordes sort out their own problems and see how they fucking like it.
Guess what faggots
Nothing you choose to do at 18 years old is gonna go well, you're all fucked
Hahahahahahahahaha
>>72027752
I'm looking for Jobs in my country now - Wales
LITERALLY NOTHING HERE
Scrolling through jobs in all of the UK
There's like a couple of suitable jobs here and there spread out, probably high competition, will have to travel 100+ miles for an actual interview though.
If i get those jobs, i'd have to move. Probably rent for a bit. Will need a car. Insurance on that. New area, new people, lose all friends.
Is there even a point on living any more?
All I want to do is remove kebab.
>>72031650
The machine would have to be built around the type of building it is constructing. Take a skyscraper. The machine would be the same perimeter of the construction site, like 4 walls with lots of robot arms, crane hooks, and tools working on the inside. The machine would slowly climb up the side of the skyscraper as it quickly puts all the parts in the pre-designated parts. At the top, it could be disconnected at its 4 corners and flown away in 4 separate pieces.
I just came up with that, but it's not entirely implausible.
>>72032322
did you not read the post.
>>72027752
>>72027752
IT.
We all sit in front of computers all day anyway. IT is the way to go if you don't have enough charisma to make it big in the professions and shill for the white race. We need to figure out how to make money from computers, whether from IT or trade on the internet. If you're good at culture, make culture and sell it online. Figure out how to do it. If you're not good at anything, get good. Become autonomous from society and raise large families with positive white identities in the countryside. Create a parallel nation and let the browns show everyone what they're made of. Our public services and industries are already in meltdown. It's only a matter of time till they turn us into Zimbabwe. Let them. They will soon find they have no time or money to breed.
>>72032467
It doesn't. He's talking through his arse, as his countrymen would say.
Every British financier I know has:
>a Guards, Eton, Oxford tie (usually all)
>a background in rowing or rugby
>a wife, a mistress, two girlfriends and a secretary he will marry eventually
They don't study physics. They did Classics or PPE or something. The proles study sciences.
>>72030319
Technologist certifications.
>>72032383
Most gunsmiths are doing fairly well where I live and you need a FFL to work on firearms in the USA meaning all gunsmiths have one or they aren't technically a gunsmith by profession (legally).
What do you sell to the states?
>>72032421
>never give a university rep a resume printed on printer paper
Then what are you going to do, ask a Nepalese monk to scribe it?
>>72031094
20$ says you live in the middle of fucking nowhere
>>72032690
>Every British financier I know
Sure thing, I'll store your hot opinion for future reference.
>>72030214
Nonkel Frituur is that you?
>>72032690
this guy gets it
>>72032778
hes right mate
if you want to break into that world pure economics at oxbridge or lse might get your foot in the door if youre a pleb
>>72032405
Maybe he got diagnosed with terminal illness and killed himself in despair. Happens more often than our societies would care to print.
>>72030766
>became millionaires after owning a Belgian fries stand
Absolutely. I now those Sirenes of the road pretty well. Have probably spend over 10K over the years in the Fritte Buden over the border.
It's a shame that the pendant in austria are Schnitzelhäuser and Kebab stands.
Those wildlings have no clue about the magic of frozen pressed meat, fried in at least a month old grease and eaten in the most delicious bun at the side of a motorway, with 3 guys who drink 0.5 Jupiler and are always there.
>>72032773
>contractor
>making money in the middle of nowhere
I don't think you know how contractor work, well, works.
>>72032773
good for him. Only faggots think the city is where you can live a productive and peaceful life.
I have never heard any Torontonians say "life is good in this city. It's beautiful and peaceful and blah blah". You hear how much diversity makes the city "vibrant".
Same goes for the horseshoe, Ottawa, MTL and Edmonton. Calgary and Halifax are less cucked, le ville QC & VAN are good tier. life in the big cities are overrated and frankly un-canadian.
kingstonian, btw.
>>72031226
>I agree that automation will take over several industries, particularly construction and fast food. Construction will eventually be like a box of LEGOs that unpacks itself, and the robot knows exactly how to put the parts together as long as the box contains 100% of the parts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SObzNdyRTBs
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2015-09/21/giant-3d-printer-builds-houses
I have a job I'm way overqualified for but I make the best of it.
It's life. you aren't entitled to anything.
>>72029409
You honestly fucking think within 10 years you will have robots coming to your house and fixing your toilet and fridge?
>>72031686
>I don't know what H1Bs are and I think Ted Cruz is looking after my interests: the post
>>72032467
Like I said, most 'general' grad programs in the UK accept people from any degree discipline. If the job involves numbers, pottering around on computers or logically analysing a particular situation (i.e. in a consulting capacity) are you more likely to employ the grad with a history degree or the grad with a physics degree?
With something as rare as a physics PhD, it's an open goal.
For example, I just checked the DB job portal and they're looking for quants:
>Educated to PhD degree level or to the equivalent in a numerate subject such as mathematics, financial mathematics, physics or statistics (beneficial)
This guy could have taken an internship, learned the ropes for six months and walked into a six figure position.
>>72032639
Dangerous and unsafe. Perhaps in the future it would be considered ethical to utilize space below the ground as well as above ground say to better regulate that automated industry we have why not put the pollution it makes underground? Anyway. Well the machine sits on the ground and clamps around the site like a bracelet. It builds the upper and lower halves simultaneously and leverages the weight of the lower half to raise the top half. I can imagine over time hanging and raising concrete in this way, but huge machines are expensive and I have weed to smoke
>>72032019
I found it on /pol/. Couldn't say. Here's more surreal art.
>>72032322
I work in Finance. You are referring to investment trading by paying physicians and mathematicians to come up with advanced algorithmic trading models to try and outperform passively managed portfolios and index funds.
The overwhelming majority of these strategies not only cost a shit ton, but fail to outperform the market or some guy who invests in the 30 top 500 stocks by any statistically significant margin. They simply aren't profitable after costs. However, math models have done a good job finding some subtle patterns at short to intermediate horizons (weekly performance, 3-12 month performance), but little in how to predict long-term performance.
>>72028548
This person sounds like an underachieving faggot. White males still have the advantage in the job market (successful white male speaking).
>>72028785
This is fair. You shouldn't just expect a dream job; it's something you earn. The advantage is strongly with educated white males.
>>72029179
Everyone will know because it's you.
No that's about right. I didn't go to college and on top of not being in crippling debt from student loans, i'm working with those same people who ARE suffering from that crippling debt.
Certain, very specific fields are still as valuable and worthwhile as ever, but even those fields, experienced workers with less educational years are more valued than even doctors. as OP's pic shows.
Traditional Education is just a big waste of time, in the current age. The internet provides us with INFINITE amounts of information and knowledge, aggregated at our fingertips. It takes only 15 seconds, usually less, to find information about anything from plumbing to theoretical physics. The only reason schools existed was to distribute this information in the past, now they're trying to play catch-up with the internet, and really the only thing they provide you is a piece of paper verifying you "took classes", which isn't even the truth, people skip and lie and cheat. Why deal with that shit when you can hire someone, for less money on top of that, who just studied the same shit online?
Really. It's just a damn shame the job market is like this but if you went to a college/university after 2005 of your own volition, it's your own damn fault. Anyone with a brain saw the expanse of the internet and knew what was coming.
>>72027752
Gee it sure sounds like this article is trying to say it someone/groups fault this guy killed himself and not his.
>>72033176
On where? You got a link?
>>72032690
I didn't go to Oxbridge (graduated from another Russell Group uni, granted), wasn't privately educated, I don't play rugby and I got a bulge-bracket position no problem after one internship.
Kinda pisses on your theory there, champ. It can be done.
>>72032991
How's Regina? Saskatchewan is supposed to be the only Canadian province with 3 weeks minimum guaranteed paid vacation instead of 2 the rest of Canada has.
>>72027942
goddammit
>>72033207
you're so deluded it hurts
white males have more jobs because white males are SMARTER. it doesn't mean they have an advantage. despite their handicap, they stil have more jobs. but they are handicapped by the process and legal requirements
>>72032568
>my opinion is the truth!
except it's not - I save my company millions in process automation.
>drop out of college
>become a car salesman
>make $70k/yr
I'm OK.
>>72033322
Just take a look at any of these:
>http://www.indeed.co.uk/Quantitative-Analyst-jobs-in-London
>>72027752
>competed
Author should jump off the sixth floor of an apartment block baka desu senpai.
>>72033087
You working a job you're overqualified for is a waste of this panopticons resources. That's 1,000 years added to your sentence. Please work in your appropriate field or further penalties will be placed on your sentence.
Please continue to work hard for your Panopticon!
>>72027752
Maybe he found a way to travel to a different dimension
>>72027942
well played
>>72032759
Pic related. Resume paper is sold at every Wal Mart, Office Depot, Post Office, UPS store, and Target in the country. Employers can't take you seriously if you hand them a resume on printer paper. Not the ones from firms that will get you big places.
It is not that expensive. Just buy a stack, put a few sheets in your printer paper tray, and make 10 or so copies of your resume to hand out to employers if you go to an interview or career fair. Trust me on this one, young /biz/nessmen.
>>72033016
Yes, like this. Although I doubt you can 3D print with material strong enough to support a skyscraper. Not yet at least.
>>72033190
Because there are already massive cities underground for the reptillians to inhabit, and they can't have us realizing they are directly under all our major cities!
Joking. But it isn't unsafe if the whole process is designed bottom-up to be safe with plenty fail-safe measures taken.
>>72033559
That always seemed like one of the most annoying "capitalist" jobs where you as the salesman does all the work, but a significant share of the money goes to the dealership owner may not even show up or ever do anything.
>>72032587
we don't need depopulation. the problem with the floundering economy is that we don't reward efficiency,and we're handing control of industry, prestige, and jobs, to niggers who waste it, and people with gold stickers instead of smart people.
we don't need fewer people. we just need fewer nonwhites, and to oppress the stupid whites. because currently the stupid are oppressing the intelligent.
Best one
>>72032611
The army values people with degrees.
>>72027752
The problem is a minimum wage and general disruptive legislation making it impossible for people to get onto the bottom of the job ladder, combined with an upcoming generation being raised to be lazy, spoiled, whiny, and entitled.
>>72032467
https://youtu.be/gjVDqfUhXOY?t=5m17s
>>72029384
>>72032322
Nobody hires quants like they used to. They used to hire Russian quants, because they were cheap, now they hire the Chinese because they are cheap. It's mostly programming, too. The actual computations in finance are very straight forward. Most of the quants are foreign.
Plus, physics is not a good discipline for quants. Quants are mostly mathematicians or engineers. Physicists just know how to apply math to their problems. Quants need to know math and try to measure something that is hard to measure. Physics is the last field you want your quant to have a background in. I haven't seen a good quant who was a physicist, and I mean ever. I saw a few mediocre ones. The skill set required is different.
Interview for uni teaching postion.
I notice you don't have the required 5 leftists facebooks posts per day, sorry no job for you.
>>72028317
>>72029269
>blaming others for your shortcomings
top cuck
>>72029384
This needs more replies.
>>72027752
>after a few weeks
Try being unemployed for 6 years.
How can someone be labeled "high achiever" when he gives up at once? I know some people who's not had a job for most of their adult life and they dont even care.
>>72033768
>the skill set required is different
you mean the skill set of sucking off keynsians?
you probably dislike physicists because he shits all over your stupid technical analysis
>>72033465
You're seriously butthurt. Affirmative action does exist, but still white males come out a long way ahead. It doesn't mean that all white males win (some are stupid faggots), but I know that I have massive advantages (private boarding school, Ivy-League education, wealthy white professional parents) and I'm smart enough to realize that I have it easy. It just gets me a bit when other privileged white guys don't acknowledge this and instead start pretending like they're terrible white trailer trash.
Don't forget to check your privilege, white guys!
>>72027942
Good one Britbongistani.
Actually got a chuckle.
>>72032773
If you are making six figures in the middle of nowhere, you are winning the game. You will pay off the ten acres you bought with a $2,000 down payment in three weeks and then the rest of your money can be spent on cool shit and sweet vacations.
I live in Vancouver and make six figures and I envy the guys doing the same on Vancouver Island and in Prince Rupert.
Making tons of money and living cheaply is going way to go.
>>72028339
What's so bad about being a teacher?
>>72033433
boring and cold, but good people. the people of saskatchewan sure as hell are what we mean by "old stock" canadians, even though half are of ukie/square-head descent from the turn of the century.
The whites (farmers et al) are great, injuns out that way are better than the west coast and ontario, but there's not much to do.
Culturally not much different from Montana, as both are pretty gun friendly but not over-the-top about anything.
>>72033943
I'm a mathematician. I've seen physicists and engineers make solutions to parabolic equations unstable, because they don't know what the fuck they are doing. You have to know the spirit of the math, not the formulas. I had to apply real math maybe three times in my career, and it had to do with other people's fuck ups.
>job market
>London
Pick one.
>"""physics"""
Yeah well I am a physics student and there are no unemployed people in my field or any other similar field that I know of. There are more than 50 kinds of physicists... molecular physics, thermo/aero/hydro dynamics, kinematics, lasers, theoretical, experimental, computational, applied, nuclear, lasers, sound, man there is millions of different fields. And ALL OF THEM ARE INDUSTRY ORIENTED!!!
Industry (aka the jobs) literally works on these things. Car industry. Arctic and arab oil extractions. Military applications/weapons design. Forensics. Medicine. These are all essential jobs. This is all real, primary, essential, base job.. these are the people because of which you can also hire everyone else. They make the welfare jobs happen.
The most profitable, secure and successful businesses on Earth are just tech giants with engineering and (applied) physics degrees. Google and Facebook bullshit, Tesla stuff, consumer electronics (apple and so on), list really goes on.
This guy just went into some hobby tier astro stuff that cant be applied or something.
>>72034114
that might be the case. the math I deal with is a lot simpler. I'm not sure how you even make a parabola unstable.
but technical analysis is fucking palm reading or astrology. astrology used to have equations and real math. it didn't make it less stupid.
>>72029384
>>9.8 m/s^2 starting
top kek
>>72027752
>Reading University
there's his problem
>>72031150
>become gun smith
>guns outlawed in decade
>>72034241
> Physicist
Parabolic partial differential equations. They come up in diffusions.
>>72034309
Constant vigilance anon. Constant vigilance.
>>72027752
>graduate with phyisics PhD
>do a hero fagget goy!
>be a nigger, of course steal, mug people, get shot
>national hero!
American dream and free market right goyim!?
>>72033646
The issue is the building is far more than just the physical structure. You have to build part, add services, build some more add more ect. you also cannot account for everything, problem solving on site is another issue.
Prefab however is how automation could take over. Purpose build factories building modules that are then placed and finished by people already exists and is becoming more and more popular.
>>72032991
Vancouver guy here. It's nice being surrounded by rainforest and mountains, but the cost of living turns your wages into peanuts.
The upside is that I can sell my house and buy anything in the world with the equity.
>>72029984
And what is your trade?
>>72027752
just how much student debt did this poor fuck rack up?? had to been over 50,000 pounds.
