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So the Marxists and Esperantists at PBS are trying to convince us that the American Dream is dead:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZrRxIY0N_Y

Do you think Capitalism has failed in the United States? This leftist documentary is promoting a Bolshevik revolution pretty much, even before Bernie Sanders. The Jews want to destroy our society.
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>>72014941
Real Capitalism hasn't existed in the US for over 100 years, what you currently have is Crony Capitalism.
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>>72014941

>Socialism doesn't mean taking wealth from those who work hard

Then why do they want to raise taxes for the poor?
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>>72014941
People who build companies don't work hard apparently. But airwrecka L-a who lives on welfare worked her whole life to get there.
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Hitler was a socialist
Why is pol so against it
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>>72015237
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>>72014941
>Taking wealth from those who work hard and giving it to those who don't

Give me one example of how Capitalism takes money from the working man and gives it to the unemployed today.

If you say any permutation of "via government" and are a Socialist, I will redirect you to that same argument every time you open your mouth for the rest of time.
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>>72015237
National socialism is a European phonemenon. Outside of Europe it only spread in Chile and the Integralistas of Brazil.
What the Jews want in this country is a Stalinist Police State.
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>>72014941
Corporatism IS NOT FUCKING CAPITALISM.
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>>72015055
If you stayed here in the US and picked up enough steam I would've voted for you Carly. Would've been the first woman president who isn't an evil democrat
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>being this classcucked you believe in capitalism

Get fucked lads
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>>72015055
First post best post.
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>>72015454

The Nazis version is pretty unique to them.

Closest relative I can think of is

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism_in_One_Country
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>>72014941
There is literally no 'taking' in capitalism, it is a system based on voluntary exchange.
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>>72014941
>America
>Capitalist

It's more of a capitalistic oligarchy where the people on top do whatever they can to destroy the potential of younger generations and retain power. Nepotism is widespread, corruption the only way to get elected or find success anymore. You can still work hard and become successful, but once you reach high enough you hit VIP booth that only allows a select few in.
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>>72014941
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>>72017323
voluntary exchange is a fucking myth and you know it. You have the liberty to treat me like shit, extract my surplus value and get rich off of my labour. I have the chose between this and starving.

Capitalism is a meme.
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>>72014941
silly OP, ain't no one work hard on socialism.
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>>72017461
>Waaah I need to work to get things!

Go back to raping children muhammad
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>>72014941
>projecting this much
Losers always cry the hardest
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>>72017461
>Voluntary Exchange is a myth
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>>72017461
No, I have the liberty to make a contract with you for you to do something and me to pay you. "surplus value" doesn't exist. You're using my tools and my materials to perform labor for me. The labor is yours, the goods and tools are mine.

If you don't like it, get another job or go get 80 of your unwashed hippy friends together and start your own business. It's easy, right? I don't deserve credit for anything because my job is easy, so you and your hundred loser friends should be able to do it in a week.
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In capitalism man exploits man.
In socialism it's the other way around
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>>72017524
>believing capitalism is the only way people can work

Found the classcuck everyone
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>>72017757
Sitting on your arse collecting benefits that people with jobs pay taxes for is not working Achmed
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>>72014941
>Do you think Capitalism has failed in the United States?

No I think it's largely proven the bell curve correct and people are mad as fuck that they are average after being told how exceptional they are just for being alive.
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>>72017461

>extract my surplus value

Which is as real as magic.
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>>72017461
Fuck off, Jeremy.
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>>72015454
The "socialist" aspect of Nazism is very different to Marxist socialism in theory. It was based on Prussian values and right-wing, or yellow, socialism. It rejected class warfare and believed in private property. In practice it was essentially capitalism with a few Keynesian measures.
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>>72015055
Real capitalism is child labour and wage slavery
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here you go friends, enjoy good theme for the thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgjlwmWnpZo
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>>72017823
Sitting on your arse collecting capital that people with jobs work for is not working Dave
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>>72017757
He blew you the absolute fuck out.

If Capitalism isn't the only way people can work, than your claim that your choice is between working for unfair wages and starving is objectively false. Go live in a commune. Go on, do it. Start a bakery with some mated, it isn't hard it'll take a year at most of saving. Eat a brown-bag lunch instead of a cheeseburger for six months. Save some money. This isn't 1850,

Then you can all pour your wealth into buying a whatever and run it like a commune. See how that turns out.

But we both know you're not going to do that. You're not going to save and work hard, you're going to bitch that you have to work at all.
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>>72017882
>Wage slavery

I never understood this meme, there's nothing stopping you from quitting your dead end job other than having to reduce your spending. It's not slavery when your only need to keep working is the payments on your 2016 BMW

>>72017934
Actually, it pretty much is, management actually does a lot of shit, and paid for all the tools the plebians use. If you think that's slavery, then you're free to leave and use your own capital to start up a competing business.
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>>72018015
stages of history lad, not just about me and my chums.

Read a book
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>>72017744
>you can start a business without money
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>>72018115
>Read a book
Not him, but Marxism is intellectual fraud and believing it shows your IQ to be <80
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>>72018115
Why don't you go read how every communist commune ended up? I'll save you the effort, since I know it's hard to translate into Arabic on the fly, they all ended in bankruptcy and/or ruin when their loose fiscal policy lead to massive overspending. Despite what you might think, you can't eat good vibes.
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>>72018176
It's called "finding an investor".
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>>72018047
>you're free to leave and use your own capital to start up a competing business

this is the part I never understood. there's nothing stopping people from setting up their own "workers paradise" company and owning the means of production. yet they never do that
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>>72014941
Lol silly nigger. Wait til you get socialism. The only people who are rich then are the politicians
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>>72018176
>Investors are magical beings only accessible to jews
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>>72014941
Bottom line: the us government functions so inefficiently that no same person would willingly invest in it.
Until that changes raising taxes on anyone is fucking retarded.
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>>72017934
1: It's ass, because we don't live in a vassal state to Germany.

2: Investing money is, in fact, work. It's harder work than folding pizza boxes in a Dominoes. It's hard enough work that most people who do it for a living fail at it.

Capitalism is a high-risk high-skill occupation. Not that any Leftist would know, since it requires courage (a Right-wing trait) and saving up enough money to invest in the first place.

If you had balls and weren't a coward, you wouldn't be a Leftist.

>>72018115
No no, it is about you and your chums. I'm calling you a coward and a loser for whining about the system that gave you everything.

>>72018176
I thought the concept of working for money was offensive. Are you admitting that you have to steal other peoples' capital in order to start a business on your own?
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>>72018204
really easy thing to do, right Tadeki?
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>>72018213
Because they know they don't have the skills needed to run a business, so they'd rather bitch and moan until the gov gives them free shit paid for by other people's hard work.
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>>72014941
Socialism means a drop in risk/reward

Socialism is a stepping stone to communism
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>>72018278
No one said it was easy. Starting a company requires intelligence and hard work.

Why are you shifting the goalposts?
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>>72014941
>So the Marxists and Esperantists at PBS are trying to convince us that the American Dream is dead:
It ain't dead, you just got a new American dream now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W02li7yFdkE
>The Jews want to destroy our society.
No kidding!
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>>72018278
>Go to business expo
>Present your idea
>Obtain investors

Many are even free to enter, all you need is the deposit to rent a table.
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>>72018279
it's the ultimate "well, what's stopping you???" followed by their storming off, unable to conjure a response
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>>72014941

What people don't understand is that capitalism is working just fine. It remains the quickest and most consistent way to bring huge improvements to quality of life for the largest amount of people. There's nothing wrong with capitalism; capitalism is great.

The problem is globalism. There are still absolutely tremendous improvements to quality of life; people are getting pulled out of poverty quickly; and that's all thanks to capitalism. Thanks to globalism, though, those things are happening in other countries. We get higher corporate profits and cheaper goods, but it's countries like China that are reaping the big rewards and whose people are lifted upwards.

People talk about inequality created by capitalism without looking at what's really happening. A communist revolution without addressing trade deals and globalism would be a disaster. We'd be a million times better off if we focused on nationalism.
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Get democratically fucked by Tyrone and jamal you limp wristed gibsmedat fuck
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>>72018278
Frankly, yes. Getting investors for low-risk endeavors isn't hard at all.
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>>72018380
Much like the free shit meme always ending in the word "FACIST" when you ask "who's going to pay for it all?"
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>>72014941
This is you
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>>72018232
I love Capitalism though, it's great! Just the belief that it's the end of history is fucking stupid. Communism now.

You've been brought up in America though where anti-commie views have been drilled into you because grandaddy wants to feel justified in all those peasant rice farmers he killed. Go fuck yourself and your grandaddy kiddo.
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>>72018378
i'll do this then thank you chief
always wanted to be a creator of wealth
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>>72018465
And you grew up in commie england where you were taught to hate Thatcher by your loser parents because "muh milk"

Kill yourself.
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>>72018465
Global communism?
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>>72018465
Why communism? Why are you entitled to things others worked hard to obtain? What makes you special?

>>72018475
Get out there Tyrone! I'm sure you'll find a few investors for grape flavoured fried chicken!
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>>72018550
European communism, I'm not some hippie.
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>>72018590
So the Bulgarians can live off the hard work of the English then? What makes them so special they don't have to work as hard?
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>>72018590
Oh, sure then.
Njoy yer union.
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>>72014941
No u: The argument
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>>72017461
If you don't want to work for anyone you are free to get a loan from the bank and start your own business at any time.
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>>72018380
>some one else start the revolution
>I call card carrying party member new job
>it'll be perfectly fair
>so fair that I only trust myself in charge
That's why these whiny bastards are ok with your money but not free food. They can't be trusted
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>>72018690
I've done just that though, under capitalism I pan to achieve as much as I can. I'm not gonna piss and moan about it - instead I'm gonna do the best I can under it.

I just believe that there will be a new economic stage of human development.
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>>72018213
>there's nothing stopping them

Well, actually, the government is stopping them thanks to all the regulations these very same people demanded be enacted.

The irony is palpable.
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It has failed.

The current system is gommunism is disguise

>subsidized corn
>subsidized oil
>subsidized vehicles
>etc

Not to mention all the protections we give industries that keep them from going belly-up when they suck at what they do.
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>>72018849
So who's the bad guy, government or corporations?
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>>72019000
Yes.
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>>72019000
The faggots that vote the gommies into office in the first place
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>2015
>believing in Marxist materialism
>not wanting a distributist traditionalist Catholic monarchy

wew lad
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>>72015055
Almost Fascism now actually.
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>>72019000
They're one and the same in most countries.
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>>72015237
It's not. NatSoc was basically Capitalism with money printing to fund jobs.
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>>72015055
So fucking this. If the asshole Republicans actually supported capitalism and free competition they would WANT to break up mega banks and corporations, not to mention SUPPORT universal government healthcare to take a burden off small businesses.

I doubt even half the country is "free" enterprise. People count subsidized agriculture, private prisons, defense contractors, and the like as "private industry" when they are actually government sponsored enterprises.
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>>72017461
/thread
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>>72019533
If you support universal healthcare in America given its current functionality you are arguably the dumbest fucking person I have ever been exposed to.
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>>72019704
You're just naive if you think the private system is better than Veteran's Healthcare. The VA only bogs down in mega cities like in California or the Northeast, otherwise it's better to cut out the corrupt insurance companies. The problem is ever since Reagan Republicans have decided taxes can never be raised ever again or some shit so funding is a constant problem.
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>>72014941
>capitalism is voluntary
>you agree to work for a company for compensation

>socialism is force
>the government takes from some and gives to others

Why are you such a selfish petulant child
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>>72017461
And you can quit your employer whenever the situation seems unfavorable to you
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>>72020050
>t. momuni pograms
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>>72018213
And that's the amazing hung about a capitalist society

You can go and make a little socialist commune and if it does work then it will be successful as people chose to go there. Yay!

But in a socialist society any black market, any action against the socialist system MUST be stamped out by the government

Socialism cannot compete in the market
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>>72020086
threat of starvation is force
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>>72020050
>You're just naive if you think the private system is better than Veteran's Healthcare. The VA only bogs down in mega cities like in California or the Northeast, otherwise it's better to cut out the corrupt insurance companies.
So the VA gets bogged down in the areas where it is needed/utilized the most? What a great fucking endorsement. The federal government is generally awful at most of what it already does.
Think about it this way. If you work as a carpenter and are unable to effectively nail two boards together, it would be foolish for me to hire you to build me custom cabinets.
When the Feds prove they can approach something remotely efficient and less wasteful then I will consider given them more responsibility.


>The problem is ever since Reagan Republicans have decided taxes can never be raised ever again or some shit so funding is a constant problem.
I would buy that if there was no pork/waste and massive deficit spending was not already the norm.
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>>72019700
Kill yourselves.
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>>72014941
>Do you think Capitalism has failed in the United States?

Capitalism's legitimacy is pinned on social mobility. Social mobility is dead.
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>>72020534

It's nobody's responsibility to feed you but your own.

How do you get this viewpoint? Just because you need provisions to survive doesn't make that anyone's responsibility but your own.

You can work for someone, you can grow food, you can be a criminal and steal it, you can go out into the woods and forage

You requiring food isn't a threat it's a biological fact of your existence and if you can't even manage to keep yourself alive maybe you deserve to fucking starve quite honestly
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>>72019000
The people who demanded that the government start regulating everything. Without that, corporations can't lobby the government for regulations that are favorable to them but not their (potential) competition.
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Amerifats at it once again, trying their best not to understand politics.

How about you Amerifags realise that the USA is pretty much the worst western country someone can live in (in terms of life expectancy, fair paying jobs, health care etc.).

Don't come at me with "but muh freedoms", believe your regressive propaganda and get in line with the SJW's, you seem to want the same outcome economically speaking.
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>>72021283
t. irrelevant country
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>>72020951
Devout capitalists forget the point of Civilization. You are just a kike.
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>>72020585
A huge portion of that "pork and waste" goes to the "defense" budget which is just a massive jobs program. Something like 2/3rd of all congressional districts have jobs tied to the military, so congress never wants to cut any of it for fear of voter reprisals. If we cut coporate welfare, cut the military budget in half, and raised taxes, we could fund all sorts of social benefit programs.

There's nothing inherently incompetent about the governemnt. We in the past had the best educational system in the world. The California UC system in particular was a shinning example of pubic universities. But of course when you cut funding to make up for revenue shortfalls, efficiency will decline. Same thing with government healthcare. People often will say "the country is broke." It's not. The government is broke, because it won't collect adequate revenue. We haven't even raised the gasoline tax since the 90s to keep up with inflation for Christ's sake.
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>>72014941
Capitalism has been a failure for years now. It's one of the leading causes of globalism and lack of patriotism because people are willing to sell out their country for personal gain

What we need is a democratic nationalist government with a modified national socialist economic system

Hitler was a net fuckup but when it comes to the economy he was way right. His system turned Germany from among the worlds poorest countries to one of the worlds best and most prosperous from 1933-38 (until he fucked up and started ww2) and everyone who was willing to work at a meaningful job was able to get employment. Why? Because he made sure that the economy was geared towards the good of Germany first and profits for the 1% second with NO internationalism allowed.
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>>72021405
Gasoline tax should be low, here it's 70-odd pence per liter and fuel is currently £1.08 a liter around here. It's ludicrous
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>>72021405
How much money do you personally pay annually in taxation?
What is your profession?
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>>72021283
I actually heard an American radio host (Michael Savage) say that if Bernie Sanders was elected he'd move to France. Bill O'reilly has said he'd move to Ireland. How stupid are "prominent" people in America to threaten to leave to countries more socialist than the proposed reforms they'd be fleeing?
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>>72017461
>You have the liberty to treat me like shit, extract my surplus value and get rich off of my labour
None can force you to work for me but government. If not a single business exists you find acceptable to work for, which is quite a stretch of the imagination, you can either try to start your own or go innawoods.

Oh, right, you can't go innawoods because your nanny state disallows it. Good thing you turned to government for salvation.
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>>72014941

The American dream is dead, that's something all sides of politics should recognize. It's the fault of Liberals and Conservatives expanding government and servicing corporate donors in office.

The only way is the Nationalist Libertarian way.
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>>72021610
I'm a systems administrator. I net about 77% of my paycheck of about 60k in Utah.
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>>72021360
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>>72021515
Sucks to be you, bong. Fuel in my area is about half of that.
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>>72021808
How much should your taxes be raised?
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>>72021673
>ireland
>socialist
they have one of the world's lowest corporate tax
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>>72014941
These people think they see a free market but what they really see is a leftist machine. There is already power in the hands of the few. They're merely suggesting a regime change. That's why we need Papa Trump, money to get the fuck out of politics, and lower taxes. People think taxes aren't high enough when they are what's causing the problem. They are used to either hinder or further businesses. The higher ups just tax competing businesses to consolidate power.
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>>72021673
Ireland is already less Socialist than the US. France is more Socialist, though.

Some countries may use the words "Socialist", "Communist", or "Capitalist" to describe themselves, but that doesn't measure the actual level of government control over business.
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>>72021861
Damn right it does, fuel is insanely expensive here because our gov keeps raising taxes to pay for social programmes
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>>72015237

Hitler lost. I don't like losers.
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>>72021366
He thinks the point of civilization is for other people to carry his water

Literally off yourselves
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>>72018204
>investor

Usually ends up being some kike who through legal fuckery and being able to pay off the system ends up owning your business and your idea anyway

Let's face it. Capitalism along with Marxism and socialism are inventions and tools of the Jew. It amazes me how /pol can see this with socialism but not capitalism

Sure you can work hard and get a few more dollars in capitalism compared to socialism

But who the fuck cares if you're a little rich when everything you do and your whole system is for the benefit of the Jew?

Capitalism is designed to bring about a "global world" by replacing a love of and loyalty to ones nation and race with a love and loyalty for nothing but money. This has been the Jews plan since forever and you greedy short sighted fools are doing exactly what they are expecting and as a result our countries are being destroyed without a fucking shit being fired
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>>72014941
>So the Marxists and Esperantists at PBS are trying to convince us that the American Dream is dead:

It is. See the Princeton study about who's interests Congress votes to protect.

https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf

>Do you think Capitalism has failed in the United States?

We haven't had real capitalism in the US for a while now, so yes, it has failed. We are living in a centrally planned economy. I'm not quite sure what to call the current system, but it isn't capitalism.

And Socialism is taking the means of production from those who have it and placing it under state or community control. Anybody who doesn't understand this is delusional and lacks an understanding of what socialism it.
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>>72021962
What those pundits are objecting to though is any expansion of social programs. The U.S. is worse than even Uruguay or Chile in social benefis, let alone Western Europe.

>>72021903
I wouldn't complain if I paid 30% if I got something out of it like more social programs. Right now I get no satisfaction from the trillion dollars spent on the F-35.
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>>72021673
I don't believe you.
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>>72022130
The point of civilization is to organize society to limit the amount of work needed to keep everyone alive and entertained. The eventual goal is to eliminate work all together. Late stage capitalists are enemies of civilization just as advocates of late stage feudalism were. Capitalism has no future, get over it.
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>>72015314

We just arent trying anymore....
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>>72022432
So what's your end goal? Everything's free? Blue cubes power everybody's personal robots? The collider behind mcdonalds keeps the grill going so you can guzzle down nuggets and jerk off to cartoons? Fucking nerd
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>>72020587

Idiot.
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>>72018047

>Nothing stopping you from quitting your job other than needing food and water and shelter and technology in order to compete in a first world society

Please stick a red-hot fire poker up your ass and swirl until you shit out your intestines.
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>>72022911
T>echnoology
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>>72022707
great post
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>>72023123
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>>72022911
>I NEEEEED my iPhone and 52" Plasma and BMW and iMac
>HOW CAN YOU LIVE WITHOUT TECHNOLOGY????
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http://usuncut.com/class-war/10-corporate-welfare-programs-that-will-make-your-blood-boil/
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Socialists are literately retards. Socialism has never been and will never be possible.
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>>72023012

>imblying I'm a leftist

I don't know how it works in DUDE WEED Land, but here in the States we hafta work for what we get. If we get stuck in a vortex of wage slavery, there are very few ways to escape it. We don't have Captain Cuck to bail us out.
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>>72023269
NAP doesn't apply to commies. Let's purge heretics together
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>>72021427
>implying globalism isn't inevitable regardless
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>>72018849
>government is stopping them thanks to all the regulations

What the fuck do you mean I can't open a restaurant and cook my curries in the same pot the neighborhood children use to shit in?! GODDAMN GOVERNMENT REGULATIONS OPPRESSING MY FREEDOMS!
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>>72023246

>applications require cell phone number and email address

But please, tell me more about this lovely agrarian society in which you live.
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>>72016285
>Voting for Carly
>She literally talked about building a world destroying army and starting WW3
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>>72023308
I have a year and a half before I go full ted cabin. I'm never working a day after and I'll live longer than all you tap water plebs.
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>>72020587
is there anything right about that picture?
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>>72023412
>tfw never get dommed by leader of the free world
>she'll never talk about how little of a guy canadians are
>she'll mask her old lady vag with a rocket shaped strap on
>crash your ass
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>>72023379
>There is no such thing as a basic $10 phone
>I NEEEEED MY $600 IPHONE
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>>72023447

I'm doing the same, but I realize it's not a realistic way to live, given the population densities of city dwellers and overall human population.
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>>72023537
Busty redheads are never wrong
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>>72017461
This is why not even National Socialism is acceptable. Socialism is a cancer.
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>>72023652
So someone tries do invade? I go down in the bunker and burn the shell. They can sort it out
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>>72023637

>What is rent?
>What is vehicle maintenance and gas (inb4 a bunch of cucked yuropoors babble on about public transit that doesn't exist in the states.)
>What is food?
>What are utility bills?

Europe can't fall soon enough.
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>>72015055
>He believes the crony capitalism meme
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>>72023801
>I can't live within my means so that means it's wage slavery to pay for all my expensive toys
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COMMIES GET THE FUCK OFF MY BOARD
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>>72023801
>rent
This guy's nucking futs
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>>72023801
>food
>gas
>rent
All cheaper in the USA than any other country for one simple reason m8
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>>72023372
No, more like, "what do you mean I need a $50000 smoke filtration system in my kitchen to cook meat?" and many other dumbshit regulations that accomplish nothing but make it harder to start a business.
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>>72018832
When we achieve non-scarcity maybe.
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>>72024421
You need to put a sprinkler system into walk-in freezers where I live. That means that you need a sprinkler system where the lines don't freeze. In a fucking walk-in freezer.
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>>72015055
>implying Musk is even distinguishable from Vanderbilt
Same shit, just photographed in color this time.

I would argue that common law traditions of property are what keeps real change from occurring. We aren't even that different from the feudal system that didn't even exist here. We make some progress, but the rulers aren't comfortable letting the powers below them stay fractured and complicated and favor centralization instead. I don't think we need socialism, but weaker property laws or some version of gavelkind corporate inheritance would keep the markets more competitive.
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>>72023340
Globalism will not last if brought about and would most likely collapse into another dark age. You cannot build a system that can run the whole world unless that system is a dictatorship with an iron hand strong enough to keep 7+billion people in line. We barely can manage large countries like Canada without areas being completely ignored. Face it a sunshine and rainbows world utopia is impossible there are different cultures races etc many of which take eachother and are incompatible with eachother and could t live in a single state together. A global world would I reality either collapse very quickly or would have to resort to mass tyranny to keep all the different people in line. We have borders for a reason. If humanity was capable of living as one state we would have started out that way. The reality is we don't all get along and we don't all have the same rainbows and unicorns dream.

If globalism is inevitable I will fight it. I'd rather die free than live in chains
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>>72024848
I think he was referring to the Federal Reserve. It's 103 years, if you're going by that metric.

And no, the Vanderbilts, Carnegies, Rockefellers, John Pierpont Morgans, etc... of the world were not nice people.
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>>72025012
Globalism has already been brought about. Think of where manufacturing happens and start looking at how supply chains run. We are going to get another dark age, though I expect that there will be pockets of light.
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>>72018047
>It's not slavery when your only need to keep working is the payments on your 2016 BMW
What about student loans that can never be forgiven? Is a loan secured by the future value of your labor slavery?
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>>72025210
>student loans
>less property rights
You seem young. You probably still don't know the secrets so I'll let you off easy
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>>72025123
Mostly brought about. At least we still have our national identities for now which are slowly being eroded as well.

While I'm not against a free market within countries I think there needs to be a near closing of our economic borders. So what if the top 1% make 1.5 bil a week instead of 2bil. We'll be saving our countries from a dark age collapse

The pockets of ligh will be those people who put pride in their people and nation above greed and making money

We're literally making the same mistake as the Romans but on an almost whole world scale excluding some places like North Korea. Rome was a globalized state in the "known" wooed of Europe and United all civilized people in the west. When it was unable to rule over that many people the world got screwed for 1000 years.
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>>72025210
If you went to college on loans, you should have taken a course in a subject that would actually get you a reliable source of income. It's no one's fault than your own if you have $100,000 in debt and a 4 year degree in women's studies
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>>72022293
>the Jew
Everything with structure is a tool of the Jew. The only true form of Government is Tribalism.
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>>72025504
The supply chains are the important part when it comes to collapse. If goods and services are still up and running, political collapse can be survived. However, when you have Just In Time supply chains for things that are important, like food, global supply chains collapsing is dark ages v3.0.
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>>72025455
>property laws don't disproportionately protect Jews
>usury is good
Yeah, I really sound like a like shill, don't I?

>>72025606
I don't owe a dollar and I have a useful degree and job. You avoided answering my question, though.
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>>72014941
> Do you think Capitalism has failed in the United States?

I think America's special style of cutthroat, crony capitalism has failed.

But I don't think Capitalism in principle has failed.

Capitalism is still the best way we have to disseminate goods widely and efficiently. It's great at making sure everyone has smartphones and cars and dish-washing machines.

We just need to limit capitalism so that it's only used for the things it's the very best for.

As a general rule, capitalism is great for things that are optional. For example, it's perfectly possible to go through life without a smartphone or a car or a dish-washing machine. (If you think those things are essentials, then you're just a pampered pussy.)

And as a general rule, capitalism is horrible for things that are required. For example, having sewer service and water service is pretty much required, otherwise you'll be living in horrible conditions. We're smart enough to have the government run those things, because we know that if we allow for-profit corporations to run them, they will abuse their monopoly power and suck every dime they can from us and use that money to make their executives rich -- and we know from experience that creating a class of ultra-rich monopolistic cronies has never been a benefit to society.

Capitalism works best for things that are optional, because things that are optional have the option to fail. And capitalism works the very best when it's operating under the constant risk of failure. America forgot that, and that's where it fucked up.
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>>72026645
>he doesn't have property or a summer job
Shut up dick horse
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>>72015055
Can we stop calling it 'crony' capitalism. What we have now is unabashed fuedalism.

You literally pay lords of the land to live on their land, and work for a king of some corporation. The only difference is that there are multiple kings of many corporations.
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>>72030145
If you don't like it, move to Cuba or China, where there's only one king.
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>>72014941
Sorry you reddit socialist faggot, you're wrong:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYr5S06LLMM
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