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https://twitter.com/TFYCapitalists/status/503471937302306816
http://thefineyoungcapitalists.tumblr.com/post/95626418480/on-the-conspiracy
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1E89zbuRwRCJEyNn9Xgq0yi_GAijIOtd0_90YtywmPok/edit
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>>34585508
Remove the top line, it doesnt need to be said
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>I say the profits from the sales of this T-Shirt should not go to TFYC or even cure Butt Hurt. But should go to iFred, the charity which Zoe Quinn supported. To show that this project was never about hurting her. But showing how much everyone cares. I ask you know /v/ for the permission to make this gesture. Let us all bury the hatchet and work together to make the world a better place.

What the actual fuck.
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>>34585585
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>>34585585
This
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>>34585508
Still don't like the idea or the shirt. Money should still go to colon cancer, not into Zoe's pockets.
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As much as I would like to agree with them, it's practically impossible for us to bury the hatchet now. We've come too far to just stop now.
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>>34585587
this sounds really suspicious to me tbqhbbq
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>>34585585
Yep
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Let me guess, the password was probably something like TYFC2014.
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>let's give Quinn money to prove we have nothing against her

aaaand I'm out.
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DON'T THEY HAVE A WEBSITE.

WHATS WITH THE GOOGLE DOC.

WAS THEIR TWITTER HACKED?
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>>34585587
killing self
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>>34585601
iFred isn't Zoe's pockets you retard. It's a charity
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>>34585601
If it goes to zoe and she fights it it makes her look like an angry crybaby who is lashing out at everyone in a massive tantrum.
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valkenburg is a fucking monster.

tell me why i should give her anything, anything at all. tell me why appeasing this vile, hateful bitch is justifiable in any way. tell me why i should believe she won't continue to trash and destroy gaming at every opportunity and why i should consent to this bizarre proposal.

because nothing in that document tells me any of that.
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>>34585601
>tfw zoe probably has a charity that links straight to her paypal
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Can't they put a password themselves?

All my password are passphrases, and I mostly don't even bother logging in in any network.
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>>34585621
The google doc is acting like a twitlonger
Their tumblr has the same thing
Their twitter was not hacked
They claim that it was just someone guessing their 8 digit alphanumeric code
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Nope. Stop.

Stop this train, I want off NOW. I need my tinfoil hat. Did anyone else see that post claiming so and so anon was going to go to a site and claim the image as copyright material? In a similar measure to how

"screencap this im gonna hack TFYC site"

I know I fucking saw it. I think it was on /v/.
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Anyone who thinks he's suggesting the shirt sales should go to Zoe herself need to learn to fucking read, and how to use a god damn search engine.
http://www.ifred.org/
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Didn't we want money to go to colon cancer research? Wtf is iFred?
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>>34585627
>>34585587
>>34585601

How do they know iFred is Zoe's charity of choice? Where exactly does one find this out?

From what I've seen it's not common knowledge.
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>>34585587
My fucking god, this sounds like a message that was made because he is personally afraid for his safety. Now he just wants this mess to go away.

So no, I will not let them make this shirt, not because I disagree with the message that they want to send, but because I can not in good conscious go along with this sort of shit.

THIS, is literally negotiating with terrorists.

All this shirt represents, is a means for Zoe to rub it in peoples faces that she won.
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>>34585508
>money should go to Zoe's bullshit
Nope.
I say we make the shirt like >>34585585 said, and money still goes to curing butthurt.
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>>34585508

Questions for yourselves:
1 - Am I being played?
2 - Should I act now, instead of trying to recopilate information?
3 - Should I just wait until further notices are given?
4 - Am I being played?
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Calm your tits, it seems to be an actual charity.

It's pure genius, it drives Zoe even farther into a corner, and makes whoever hacked the page look even worse.
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>>34585677

I DO NOT NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORISTS.
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Okay, let's take a step back and sort all this out. Indiegogo claims that you can't delete a campaign unless you've failed to get any funding, so a hacker who just guessed TFYC's password wouldn't be able to delete it.

THIS MEANS ONE OF TWO THINGS:

1) The hacker has compromised all of Indiegogo.
2) There is no hacker, and Zoe knows someone at Indiegogo that did this for her.

WHAT SAY ALL OF YOU?

Cross-post this on /v/ as well.
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>>34585683
She participated in TFYC before ruining it.
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>trust me, we're working on getting the indiegogo back up
>in the meantime, let's forget this silly nonsense with colon cancer and TFYC
>instead let's put money in Quinn's pockets

NICE.
FUCKING.
TRY.
ZOE.
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So in the end.
1) IGG should still have access log of a bruteforce attempt.
2) What reasons would there be to have a charity hacked? Just to spite 4chan?
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>>34585684
>Zoe doesn't give money to charity she claimed she was gonna
>TFYC give money for ass cancer and this shit
>Zoe ends up looking worse.
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>>34585585
>>34585600
>>34585601
>>34585684
On some level, it's irrelevant. They're doing the legwork of spreading /v/'s 'daughter' and guess what - Zoe CANNOT say a damn thing against it. That'll drive her insane.
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What is iFred and do they benefit from all this?

If the money doesn't go to Quinn then why not, though I personally think it should still go towards butt cancer
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/pol/ I almost..
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/v/ are running a straw poll on the appeasement treaty.

http://strawpoll.me/2411605/r
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>>34585627
>>34585630
Call me paranoid, but at this point I'm incapable of believing Zoe is genuinely capable of supporting a good cause without there being anything in it for her. We picked colon research and we should stick with it. Just because we're trying to play this cool and calm doesn't mean we have to be supreme gentlemen and suck up to Zoe.

I mean what's this "it's not an attack on her bullshit?" Is funding something for women an attack on Zoe? Is she a misogynist or something?
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>>34585707
3) They genuinely had a week password, as indicated by the youtube video description that was placed on the indiegogo site
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>>34585672
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSb1018xcZA_G1gx7usu6M7jZ3r--KcEoVZiz5OSBNOd-6cNHZt
you mean this?
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>>34585689
We are being baited. The hack was meant to hit us where it would hurt.

They want us to lash out.
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I agree with the people saying to not negotiate with terrorists. we want (or at least we want for /v/) TFYC to be able to have their charity game jam. it's that simple.
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>>34585733
Jesus christ the profits of the game are still going to go to colon cancer.
This is a separate venture TFYC want to do
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>>34585657
then fuck it i'll buy a shirt

but if i also spend money on a shirt and donate to a fucking video game character she better be in a video game.
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I fucking told you fucking assburger guillible fucks.. I told you it was just a tumblr raid trying to get /pol/ to fund a SJW project

fucking retarded tools i am so happy that some of you gave your money to this.. i hope you feel humiliated
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It's like you niggas are blind. The money won't be going to zoe, it will be going to a charity that she supported that has to do with depression and shit. Just because the slut supported doesn't make it a bad cause.
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>>34585707
Well many of us have emailed indiegogo.
Let's wait to see what they say.
They promise a response within 24 hours.
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>>34585508
has to be fake, bad blood runs through the owner of TFYC since Zoe shut them down in the first place
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>>34585733
Anyone can claim they are donating to a genuine charity for PR kudos.

Just because she specified a charity doesn't mean it's not genuine.

And as >>34585757 said this is completely separate from what was already donated.
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Could someone please explain what's going on in here?

I've been gone for a week or so, and this thing seems everywhere.
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>>34585707
>The hacker has compromised all of Indiegogo.
how would you jump to the conclusion all of indiegogo is compromised?
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>>34585725
>What is iFred and do they benefit from all this?
It's an organization that researches depression.
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>We were hacked
>Buy our merchandise
>Give us your money

Getting played like a fucking fiddle
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>>34585725
>>34585710
The money doesn't go to Zoe, but the International Foundation for Research and Education on Depression, iFred. A little google search will turn wthis right up.
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>>34585672
http://imgur.com/2ArksNX
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Who are the founders of iFred?

I don't want this shit connecting to Zoe in any way other than her donating there.

Also how do they know its a Zoe's supported charity?
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>>34585764
Except nobody will get any money from this because it didn't reach 65k you fucking moron
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>donate to betas
>surprised when they act beta
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>>34585781
Yeah it does, so that's why they are trying to further climb the moral highground by now wanting to donate to the charity Zoe claimed she would.

They are rubbing it in.
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>then
>not than

fucking dropped
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>>34585804
She took part in the competition before ruining it.
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>>34585740
sir that is a car
you are drunk
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>>34585508
>donating to Zoe Quinn's charity
>to extend 'an olive branch'
assalamuálaikum akhi, I'm a terrorist and
WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU GONNA NEGOTIATE WITH SJW TERRORISTS?
they bully and threaten TEN YEARS OLD FFS
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so let me get this straight. TFYC and us did something that really pissed off quinn. then that thing that pissed her off got hacked and now TFYC want to apologize and make it up to her? this doesn't make any sense.
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>>34585732
Voted no, too rash, too fast.
And I think there might be another way to do it.
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>iFred

Not mad
I say allow it
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I don't know much about the IN-n-OUT zoe phiasco so tell me if I'm correct of what just happened today:

>they use /v/ OC and turn it into tumblr SJW shit
>they want to give money to zoe instead of the colon charity
>/v/ is so reddit tier now that they actually want that to happen

Am I correct?
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>>34585787
>It's an organization that researches depression.
So in other words it's a fucking money pit organization that will contribute...fucking nothing.

If they don't want to fund for colon cancer than just have them fund some legit suicide prevention center. If they don't like it we should then pull all of our donations out
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>>34585804
My guess it was the charity Zoe had wanted the donations for her TFYC project to go to before ti all went to shit.
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>>34585807
you still got played by feminists and this is what you get nigger
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>>34585707
> Indiegogo claims that you can't delete a campaign unless you've failed to get any funding
Where, exactly?
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>>34585684
This. This. This. Stop fucking playing hugbox. The people we are dealing with play in the hugbox, but they are sociopaths. They do not feel human feelings. They do not understand human feelings. They will fuck everyone over they possibly can until their heart stops beating. Being beta and passive is what started this shit, fight these people and do NOT compromise. Fight them until they fuck off, don't make some half asses deal with these "people".
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>>34585836
this. game jam or bust.
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>>34585858
/v/ is still shit flinging about it.
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>>34585804
I hate to fucking spoon feed, but the founder is a woman named Kathryn Goetzke
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>>34585860
Only money from the shirt sales will go to iFred you mongoloid.
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GUYS READ IT

IT SAYS THE CHARITY ZOE SUPPORTED, NOT THE CHARITY THAT SUPPORTS ZOE

THIS IS STILL FOR A GOOD CAUSE

GIVE IT AN "AYE"
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Why the fuck does it have to go back to Zoe Quinn again? Who fucking cares about the feelings of that piece of shit? I thought these idiots were trying to do something good but I guess it's all just about keeping up appearances and all that bullshit.

Fuck this nonsense. Abort everything and take your creation with you, /v/. Go make your own games and trademark her image quickly.
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>>34585858
It won't go to Zoe, just a charity that she said that she wanted to give money to. Key words here, SAID THAT SHE WAS GOING TO.

She hasn't actually done so.
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>>34585858
That sounds about right to me.
This cannot be allowed to happen.
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>>34585858
yes, 4han is SJW central now
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>>34585739
The video linked on the site was different than the one with the modified description. The original on the site was from 2007
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>>34585757
>>34585782
I remain unconvinced and still don't like the shirt. Once they started with "let's raise some money to show we don't hate Zoe" they lost me.
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>>34585834
oh shit wrong link.

http://i.imgur.com/S2xPLaS.png

This is what i meant
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>>34585508
I actually like your little baby. Too bad she won't live, but then again who does?

- See? THIS IS A BAIT. Don't let them bait you.
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>>34585858
>>/v/ is so reddit tier now that they actually want that to happen

yes. they are actually considering it. i shit you not.
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>>34585707
>>34585249
^^^Image
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Jesus fucking christ some of you are touchy little bitches
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>>34585871
>mfw I didn't contribute to the fundraiser in any possible way and you assume I did just because I called you/the other anon out on your/his retardation
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This all feels like a mind game

I honestly don't know what to think
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>>34585508
It's not her charity you fuckwad. It's a seperate entity, that she just happened to support.

Now I don't advocate donating to this charity out of spite of Zoe, but this kind of twisting of facts should be left to the fucking kikes.
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>>34585794

It was like that...but it was posted during the downtime between this shirt going up and the site being hacked. It coulda have just been trolling.

>>34585740
>>34585740
Hell, maybe this guy knows it I didn't really look into it.
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I say we avoid Zoe and start ignoring her entirely.
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>>34585835
IT paints us in a better light, them in a worst one. Simple, really.
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>this whole drama ends with Zoe Quinn getting money
lol wut. This is some Death Note keikaku type shit.
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Lot of shills in those threads trying to force the issue and get everyone on her side.
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>>34585917
It's more like
>let's raise some money to show this isn't about Zoe

Higher ground anon, remember, we want the higher ground.
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>>34585891
>Only money from the shirt sales will go to iFred you mongoloid.
And they fucking shouldn't hence forth we should tell the FUCK NO.

If they do that then we literally just let them use our mascot to fund a shit organization that has ZERO credibility and as well supports that cunt.
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>>34585672
There was also something about "registering the character Viviane as personal CC"

If this is true, this could have other repercussion.
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Uh wait, Viv is a SJW? I thought she was supposed to be fed up of that bullshit? The shirt should be say "Can we just play video games?"
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>>34585892
Why do you keep posting in all caps?
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It is literally irrelevant if iFred is legit or not. No compromise. colon cancer and game jam, not some SJW faggot t shirt.
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>>34585890
Apart from her are there other people involved that might have ties to Zoe is what I was getting at.
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>>34585962
It doesn't you god damn retard.
OP did you purposely word the thread title to make these fucking idiots jump to conclusions?
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>>34585508
this is dumb
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>>34585739
Did you even fucking read what I wrote?

TFYC DOES NOT HAVE THE FUCKING AUTHORITY TO DELETE THEIR CAMPAIGN. ONLY INDIEGOGO ADMINS CAN DO THIS.

>>34585786
See the above paragraph.

>>34585873
See >>34585925.
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I swear there is one motherfucker ITT that keeps saying "buy it doesn't actually go to Zoe! It's a good cause c'mon guys!". Fuck you asshole. This was not the deal. Understand? The deal was we support TFYC indiegogo and in return we get a character and fund butt cancer research. Now because there has been a supposed hacking things need to change? Why? How about we wait for indiegogo to put the page back up and proceed with business as was agreed upon? Do you just let people walk all over you IRL too?
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>>34585965
How the fuck does she even have this large an army?!
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/v/ = reddit

Ignore both Quinn and /v/.
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>>34585988
4chan is the engine of social justice now. you could have stopped this.
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>>34585828
haha wtf

go through their twitter for other spelling mistakes.
see if it is consistent
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All of Twitter has been hacked
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>>34585947
Everything being run in IRC probably, tired of it myself.

LOOK OVER HERE! LOOK AT THIS! THAT HAPPENED! YOU SEE THIS?
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>>34585978

There was. I remember seeing it. Maybe it's in the archives of /v/ or some shit.

Anyway, I know for a fact part of it was spoilered "permanently" -- the context was that they registered the image so that no one else could use it and that Vivian was now their's (the anon poster) "permanently"
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TFYC gets "hacked" and the first thing they do is talk about merchandising and giving the money to a charity Zoe supported.

Yeah, nothing wrong with that.
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>>34585858
Remember that she now owns all the rights to Vivi anyways. Even if /v/ says no, she can still shit all over them.
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/pol/ PLAYED LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE
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Okay everybody.
Calm.The.Fuck.Down.

We just need to do
1) Make sure iFred had nothing to do with Zoe. Hence the money won't be going to her. (since she claimed she was depressed)

2)Dig out the history between Zoe and iFred.
If iFred is a charity Zoe planned to but din't donated to, we will look good if we agree with it.

3)Calm. The. Fuck. Down.

>The money we gave to indiegogo (TFYC) will still go to curing Butt Hurt.
>The money from selling T-shirts IS the one being donated to iFred.

I need these done like... right fucking NOW.
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>>34586021
Nothing is changing. Once the indiegogo hack is sorted, it will continue as it always would have. The profits for the game will still go to ass cancer.

This t-shirt sale thing is an entirely separate thing
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>>34586021
Except this doesn't stop this plan, money will still go to that charity, it's just the t-shirts that will generate more cash and will go to a research organization.
Stop being retarded.
we can eat our cake and have it, too
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>>34586015
>Did you even fucking read what I wrote?
no

so zoe confirmed to have fucked indiegogo admins?
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>>34585969
Higher ground does not mean kissing ass.

>This was not the deal.
This. I'm still in support of TFYC and their vidya project, but I'm not on board with this shitty shirt.
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>>34585947
My tinfoil is crinkling.

I think we've been carnivore trolled.
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>>34585971
>a shit organization that has ZERO credibility
Why don't you do a fucking google search on the organization before spewing non-sense?

And no, it won't be supporting that cunt. She never gave any money to iFred, and it'll only paint her in a bad light if TYFC does give the t-shirt money to it.
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posted on /v/
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They only want the money from the shirts to go to iFred.

The original money still goes to butt hurt.

You people should read before posting.
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Guys. What about one of these options:

1. Ovarian Cancer. If I recall correctly its one of the underfunded ones, and its a cancer any woman could get behind.

2. A depression charity but not the one Zoe wanted money to go to. To show that we agree that depression is something that needs support just that we do not agree with Zoe as an individual and are using the different charity as a manner to maintain our distance in the relationship.
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>>34586021
We can still fuck them over when we show that they are corrupt and still have donated to the iFred charity. It's like a double fuck you plus only the tshirt money goes to iFred.
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>>34586065
sound plan
I still don't like the top line of the T-shirt, but I guess we'll let it pass to show that we are at least a bit tolerant towards others' personal beliefs and that we pay attention to the big picture.
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>>34586065
also get the fucking shirt changed from that social justice trash. Seriously, it should be "Games should be about fun not social justice" just something a lot more witty than that.

That shirt is quite literally the gayest thing I have ever seen.
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>>34586089
nah
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We're being blitzed /pol/.
All of this is happening too fast.
The indiegogo page gets hacked and goes down within minutes and 20-30 minutes after that TFYC come out with a prepared statement and a motherfucking T shirt? Then you have all the shills in the threads urging us to support this iFred shit out of fucking nowhere because "it's still a good cause guys". All of this in the early morning when most of /pol/ and /v/ are likely asleep?

This was planned.
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>>34585969
Bull fucking shit why do they have to raise money? Everybody KNOWS it's not about Zoe, and that's why we are all supporting it. I thought the whole thing was just about making games and giving the opportunity for aspiring women to put forth their creative ideas.

WE
DONT
GIVE
A
FUCK
ABOUT
ZOE
QUINN

So why in the shit do we have to acknowledge her again? Why can't TFYC just donate the proceeds to any charity without bolstering the ego of the moron that fucked everything up in the first place? I mean good fucking god grow a backbone.
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Who the fuck is this hacker?
It's definitely not Zoe or Fish. They gain from being hacked, but I doubt they'd go as far as the hacker has. The hacker CLEARLY knows about us. "/V/" is deliberate - they know their way around 4chan.
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>>34586065
Ok.

Prove to me the money is going to go where they say it goes.

Or are we just taking a random stranger on the internets word for it?
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>>34586065
>Make sure iFred had nothing to do with Zoe.
Why not just suggest them to invest with a different organization. If we told them to donate it to some suicide hotline they can't fucking wiggle out of it and if they do then we fucking know some is fucking fishy.
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>>34585587

No.
Money goes to butthurt cancer.
Zoe can by itself raise money to ifred is she stops being a jew.

I hope /v/ doesn't accept this gesture.
Butthurt cancer or gtfo.
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>>34585874
Exactly. Despite all the attention given to this issue, nothing has changed but the amount of awareness. Nobody has stepped down from their positions, or even apologized for their behavior. To "bury the hatchet" might work if people wanted to sit down and have a frank discussion and plan of action on how to fix what's wrong with game journalism.

Don't split funds elsewhere, conserve resources to fund the TFYC Game Jam, but pass on this shirt. It's not time to make nice.
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>>34585709
No she didn't. She just heard about it and engaged in a twitter campaign of misinformation against it while she was planning her own event.
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>>34586097
I think that's most likely the case. I've been working on her LinkedIn to find any potential connection between Indiegogo and Zoe, but so far I've turned up nothing. I'd appreciate it if someone else could help.
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>>34586122
how about prostate cancer?

fuck off this isn't tumblr
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>>34585917
Exactly.
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>>34585988


CHANGE THE SHIRT TO

CAN WE JUST PLAY VIDEO GAMES

AND SAY FUCK IT.

also someone pointed out a recent error on their tumblr, they misspelled a word

SEE
>>34585828


someone needs to go through twitter and see if there has any other spelling mistakes or misused words. perhaps their other accounts were hacked as well you can not forgo this just because it was posted on two different mediums.

/v/ your best bet now is to trust no one.
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>>34586120

So wait.

Does this mean the entire original campaign has completely been destroyed?
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>>34586157

>>34585689
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When iFred's website is a full screen image of Zoe taking 5 dicks, then we can talk about giving them money.
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I just heard about this shit.

Basically, the chick who went to Five Guys is now making a fucking charity?
To somehow get people who know to forgive her, and then to show everyone else "Oh, she's got a charity, those mean trolls are just hurting her" so she looks better?

Holy fuck this is deceptive.
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>>34585969
>4chan
>high ground
youwotm8
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>>34586129
>The message is always up for interpretation please give us your feedback on twitter.
>up for interpretation
>interpretation

Also, alternate design which is still gay but less gay.
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>>34586122
>A depression charity but not the one Zoe wanted money to go to.
I like this, but still hate the fucking shirt.

Shirt should be like >>34585988 suggested:
> "Can we just play video games?"
...but even then I probably still wouldn't buy it so disregard my opinion.
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>>34586117
>>34585947
Welcome to the desert of the real.
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Reminder that if this image and this video are true that:
>Zoe Quinn's real name Chelsea Valkenberg.
>She's part of a wealthy family with a shit ton of connections.
>People are beginning to find more and more evidence that Zoe Quinn doesn't even exist.
>Reddit mods are in on it.
>It's all part of a larger campaign PR spreading over tons of sites on the internet.
>Reddit mods can read user's PM (potentially site altering).
>TFYC was hacked (proof below), and since Indigogo uses Cloudflare, the hacker probably got inside assistance.
>If this ever hits the mainstream press will all be labeled misogynistic cyber terrorists.
>The entire thing was potentially a false flag.
>We are being played like a fiddle to be made an example of.

TFYC hack statement:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1E89zbuRwRCJEyNn9Xgq0yi_GAijIOtd0_90YtywmPok/preview?pli=1&sle=true
Video pointing out here alleged connections:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMUb1TDDYQo
Image:
http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1408835002378.jpg
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>>34586190
>someone needs to go through twitter and see if there has any other spelling mistakes or misused words
It does. The guy isn't great at english
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>>34586065
This is niceer
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>>34586190
shouldn't even be video games it should be vidya

that is NOT 4chan.
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>>34586229
>"play" misspelled as "place"
>title case

give up
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>>34586122

Aren't charity funds in their own league of "bullshit?"

Admittedly, hypocritical given WHAT the thread is about. But I say look into iFred. Like, really look into them. Not some surface, "Well, zoe doesn't blatantly claim to own this!"

Hell, I'd switch it to virtually anything else but iFred. I mean, shit. It even sounds like apple and we know they are jews.
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>>34586157
LISTEN TO THIS ANON
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>>34586210
>>34586190


this all happened within what 1-2 hours?
debacle started at 4am est and it is now about 6am est.

That is a swift reply from these guys. considering it's a sunday morning.
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>>34586170
I like your idea we should ask them to change it to another charity for depression that we choose, this way there is no tie at all to Zoe
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>>34585620
Yeah fuck this shit. Proof that you cant trus feminists, SJWs or jews.
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>>34585969
It's HARD. Part of it is because this feels like the TFYC are giving up. So let me read this again and break it down and maybe it will make more sense.

Ok, reading over it again. They are not giving up on the campaign, it's still on, they are working to restore everything.

The shirt, is a separate thing. Completely and utterly. Thinking back on my life, I have had exactly these kinds of friends. Gay, ugly, fat, Queer, these are some of my life long friends that I have had and gaming did indeed bring us together.

I was thinking about this shit earlier today, that the whole thing about Zoe. God, I don't think any of this shit would have been a big deal if the game was actually good and that's the thing, I JUST WANT TO PLAY GAMES GOD DAMMIT!

So yeah, they aren't making this because they are giving up, they want the moral high ground. The depression charity is the charity that Zoe wrote down for the competition. They are going to gain the moral high ground by supporting it because if they do and Zoe throws a shit fit, she will look back because of it.

Besides, this really really really needs to be said. IT ISN'T FUCKING ABOUT HER. I didn't want to fucking get back at Zoe with this, no matter how much I want to. I wanted to really support girls that are having confidence issues with getting into game development, no matter what.

So yes, with this in mind, I will support the shirt. Send the message to /v/, if we don't support the shirt, then we just confirm to Zoe that it is and only will be about her, Fuck Zoe. I am better then her as a person and this is my proof. I just want people to play games with.
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>>34586131
>Stop being retarded.
>nah

I like your style, friend.
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>>34585508
>>34585587
Tell /v/ to tell them that instead of iFred to put the profits to cure a different type of cancer, like lung cancer. That way it keeps in with the theme of chemo.
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iFred is legit 501(c)3, but the middleman selling the shirts bothers me. I guess I'd need more info before getting behind this.
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>>34586170
Because we'll gain the moral high ground. It'll be a big slap to Zoe.
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>>34585508
Part of the support is from /pol/. /v/ may be okay with this faggot SJW slogan but /pol/ isn't. Don't let them put that shit on a t-shirt if there's going to be a t-shirt. These SJW niggers don't belong in gaming and they never will, they don't need the people who hate them wearing a shirt that says they support them.
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>>34585508
Betrayal of the highest order.

Kotaku campaigns continue, Zoe campaigns continue. If anything, they are more important.

This only shows that betas will always be beta and now the fine people we wanted to assist have bowed their head to their alpha.

I feel for them, but alas. Vivian needs to move from her delusional adoptive parents back with our loving family and these idiots have to burn.
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>>34586120
>>34586208

no, not likely. it had funding, which means it cannot be destroyed. they just vandalized the page, and then it was presumably taken down for repairs or some shit.
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>>34586229
Should be

"I don't care about you"

"Your taste is shit"
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>>34586283
http://www.effectgames.com/demos/canvascycle/?sound=1
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>>34586251
>>34586190

AGREE

"CAN WE JUST PLAY VIDYA GAMES"

also remeber /v/ it's only been 2 hours since the hack initially happened.

everything is still up in the air

TRUST. NO. ONE.
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>>34585587
Hell the fuck no

It's not ending like this.

Fuck no
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/pol/, we are being Neville Chamberlain'ed. This is the Austrian Compromise, but we're not Germany.

Don't repeat history.
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>>34586053

Wait what since when does she have the rights
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Let's choose another charity for depression in honor of those wizards that probably killed themselves because of Zoe
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>>34585620
Noone is giving Quinn money.

I saw this exact same comment of yours in another thread, confirmed for ZIDF.
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>>34586050
The charity and zoe supporting it are two seperate issues. It's not like she runs the damn thing.

I think TFYC guy just doesn't want to be at the centre of this shitstorm any more. Can't blame him for that. He's basically an innocent bystander.
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>>34586120
>>34586208

Sadly yes, Deleted and the money will go back to supports bank accounts during the next business days.
Or maybe just maybe indiegogo team can do something to recover it.
so everyone should contact them.

----

Also /v/ and /pol/ please don't change your mind and don't agree to donate to ifred charity.

You are the one giving the money, it's up to you to chose which charity to support.

Butthurt cancer or no support.
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>>34586337
depression doesn't need a fucking charity, how about a proper disease
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>>34586265
>That is a swift reply from these guys. considering it's a sunday morning.

EXACTLY!

I don't know precisely what is going on or who is behind it but I can tell this was planned.
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>>34586282
It is really, really hard to remove the frame that this is about Quinn in some shape or form. There were at least two factors at work:

1. Fuck you Zoe Quinn
2. We're donating to a charity you shat on, you think we hate hate women does not compute
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>>34586290
>Because we'll gain the moral high ground. It'll be a big slap to Zoe.
And what do you think would happen if she is fucking connected with them. This organization is fucking connected with the Writers Guild and I know some of the Zoes fucks have affiliation with WG. This would just bite us in the ass and besides why the fuck would it matter. Hell we be better because we are actually funding SUICIDE PREVENTION. Any asshat organization can say they are studying about something that is fucking obvious has to many variables.
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>>34586337
Let fucking Wizardchan decide the charity better yey.
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FUCK THE T SHIRT DEAL.
LITERALLY.
It's almost 6 am on the east coast. when did the hack happen? then an hour later a full response from TFYC whose accounts are probably compromised? fuck it all. just go ahead as planned when the indiegogo shit comes back up. have someone from /v/ set up the t shirt and charity shit if you fags wanna do that.
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>>34586237
>and since Indigogo uses Cloudflare, the hacker probably got inside assistance

I hate this statement repeated everytime.

You can still get hacked if you use cloudflare.
People who say this have no experience with cloudflare.
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Reminder that if this image and this video are true that:
>Zoe Quinn's real name Chelsea Valkenberg.
>She's part of a wealthy family with a shit ton of connections.
>People are beginning to find more and more evidence that Zoe Quinn doesn't even exist.
>Reddit mods are in on it.
>It's all part of a larger campaign PR spreading over tons of sites on the internet.
>Reddit mods can read user's PM (potentially site altering).
>TFYC was hacked (proof below), and since Indigogo uses Cloudflare, the hacker probably got inside assistance.
>If this ever hits the mainstream press will all be labeled misogynistic cyber terrorists.
>The entire thing was potentially a false flag.
>We are being played like a fiddle to be made an example of.

TFYC hack statement:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1E89zbuRwRCJEyNn9Xgq0yi_GAijIOtd0_90YtywmPok/preview?pli=1&sle=true
Video pointing out here alleged connections:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMUb1TDDYQo
Image:
http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1408835002378.jpg
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>>34586289
>501c3

You know how many feminist orgs are non profit?
Being non profit doesn't mean you can't be sjw cunts or jews or some shady motherfuckers.
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How did the idea of giving women the opportunity to provide ideas to make a video game turn into social justice, lgbt, fat acceptance stuff again? What in the flying fuck do those things have to do with the project again?
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By trying to appease Zoe and discouraging criticism against her, TFYC have basically become Zoe-enablers. I don't know about the rest of you, but this was never about TFYC, it was about Zoe and her sphere of influence. TFYC was just a way of sticking it to Zoe, and now they've basically surrendered.

I say forget TFYC. Just keep your eye on the ball and focus on developing more and more publicity for FIVE GUYS. Expose Zoe and her abuse of influence. The reason this story is struggling to take off is because so many popular discussion boards are run by SJWs and/or Zoe's affiliates, so we have to take it to the next level of media, try to get traction on bigger names, bigger outlets. If nothing else, keep talking about it to keep the flame going.
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>>34586065

It's me again.
OK! I got an idea from >>34586170

/pol/ seems to be concern with paying money with Zoe.
How about, we suggests to change to another Depression organisation.
>BUT!!
We will use pretty words.
Such as
"We don't want anything to do with Zoe as people will again judge our action, for better or worse. As for now, we are, and had always been, focusing on the Game Journalists Industry. Also, we are just some humble citizens just like you and me, wanted to do goods and help people, but meanwhile we are tolerance with the trolls around us."

Just an example. But you get the idea.
Someone with degree in English Major or some shit help write the most pretty words please.
423
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>>34585707
They got hacked and IG blocked the campaign to stop further abuse.
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>>34585732
"bury the hatchet and work together to make the world a better place."

the fuck is this? ircgang just throwing shit out and implementing at the drop of the hat?
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>>34586355
It is very unlikely that any reversals have taken place yet, they are usually batched. It may be possible for them to revert everything with little to no loss. I am really hoping so, they probably have had to deal with hackings like this before.
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>>34586320
Non historyfag here.
Care to explain wtf you just said?
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>>34586394
>Chelsea Valkenberg
>Valkenberg
Oh look, /pol/ was right, again.
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>>34586410
I say continue to support TFYC, but disregard the shirt.
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>>34586065
What difference do you think this will make? SJW think we scum that is below contempt. I can't see them coming around.
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I'm logging off for the night, but before I go I wanna make my fucking crazy ass prediction.

By the way, this is 8/24/2014 6:00 am my time, lol.

>4chan is going to go through with a charity and slogan (to be decided)
>fast forward a bit
>TFYC gets sued/gets in legal trouble over this image being technically copyrighted somewhere
>drama

Then again, I'm an idiot. Good night, sweet princes.
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http://strawpoll.me/2411686
In regards to the T-shirt earnings.
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>>34586367
Your right a charity to get rid of the disease know as Yurmom
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>>34585710
i just want to say that hayley is a fucking qt
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>>34585689
Anon is right. We are being played.
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>go to iFred
>seems legit
>founder is someone by name of Kathryn Goetzke
>google searches only show that Zoe was donating to charity
>find founder's twitter @kathryngoetzke
>google: "kathryngoetzke+thequinnspiracy"
>0 results found
>so one/both of them don't even follow each other on twitter
>go to thread
>ZOMG DONT GIVE ZOE MONEY
Are you guys going full retard now or something?
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Parkinson's has been linked to depression, why not go with that?
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>>34586237
They didn't exploit the site, they guessed a bad password. Cloudflare won't protect you from that.
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Since when did we become a bunch of spineless betas?

Fuck no we don't play nice with Zoe.

Just because we were taking the high ground and donating to the feminist game company doesn't mean we have to put up with this bullshit.

Find your fucking balls, anon
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>>34585508
this whole thing seems suspicious to me. on one hand i can see it pissing off zoe and that is all the gesture is.

however on the other i can see, using the backwards mental gymnastics that battling, baiting and tricking sjw for the past year has taught me, that they are collaborating with zoe because she was always their ally and this is a way to support zoe quinn.

i don't know how i feel about this. i definitely don't think zoe is capable of this kind of subterfuge. she is pretty much legitimately retarded. but what if this whole campaign was a way to manipulate us?

what if she never cheated and these people all hatched this plan together? they figured they could direct our hate.

what do you think brothers?
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>>34586157
I disagree that this was all some big ruse by TFYC themselves. Their speech was definitely not "prepared". It was on google docs, the shirt was horribly scraped together, and their statement itself was like a common forum post.

I know /pol/ likes it's conspiracies, but I think saying things like this is only going to pull us apart, which is clearly what /V/ wants.
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>>34586024
>e even have this large an army?!
By using holes
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TFYC on twitter says "We work in Television, this sort of organizing is slow for us" when asked about the shirt.
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>>34586462
gtfo
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>>34586429
THIS

THIS

THIS

STOP THE SLIDING
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>>34586457
Too bad it was an original character donut steel. If only someone could copyright it before they do...
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>>34586320
yes, we're Britain.
fuck this shit
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Dude what in the fucking fuck. The betas are so unused to winning that they will fight it with every fibre in their being.

No you stupid betas you don't give money to your victimizer and shit on the people that wants you to succeed.

This is why you are a failure.

While Zoe is out fucking her way to the top, you send "will you be friends" to people to whom that means "defile all my holes" and they gladly will.

TFYC I am dissapoint.
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>>34586443
Or have the short profits go to butt cancer as well
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>>34585689
>>34586473
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>>34586415
First, they need to remove the sjw message from the shirt and make it more fitting to the character. Second, they need to stop acknowledging Zoe Quinn and trying to put her in relation to the project somehow because this is not about her. It's about making games, not hugbox nonsense.

1. Revise shirt
2. Remove Zoe Quinn
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>>34585689
smells like the destruction of /pol/ by getting way too invested
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>>34586157
Of course it was.

Half these events are false flag pity fests and wealth extractions from the Useful Idiots not used to Marxist tactics.
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>>34586429
I hope you're right, but right now I'm WAY too fucking paranoid to believe this is the case.
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BUTTHURT CANCER OR GTFO.


Zoe you bitch fuck some people and raise money for ifred if you want.
I want the money to go to Butthurt cancer.
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>>34586487
http://youtu.be/1d6Q3VpqXyk
tl:dr The guy running the capitalist thing had no idea what was in for when he tried to reason with Zoe and the SJW community at large.
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okay i just read that the tfyc indiegogogogo was hacked just before this shirt thing was announced. i've been out of the loop for a little while, can anyone bring me up to speed?
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>>34586481
Even if they guessed, they could still have logs about it somewhere.

I don't know how far it would go, but IGG should get to it.
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>>34586457
Somebody please tell TFYC to be careful with Vivian, and copyright her. I'd do it, but it's 6AM here too.
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>>34586415
>iFred had nothing to do with Zoe. Hence the money won't be going to her. (since she claimed she was depressed)
That's actually a great idea guys
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>>34586475
This all just seems like an unnecessary compromise to avoid "hurt feelings." I don't like the way they're asking for money and I don't like the message they're trying to convey. Just because we did something nice they're trying to push it and milk us for more money.

This just reeks of shill.
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>>34586489
At least one person in this thread is intentionally sowing chaos. I think you're right, and people just need to calm down and wait a day to see what happens and not fall for any lies or lose zeal in the meantime.
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>>34586065
The charity doesn't -really- matter; Zoe's bullshit hardly has anything to do with actual depression anyways, and even if it was a DIRECT DONATION TO HER it would STILL be a win for us because something like that would maker her FURIOUS.

the intermediaries, TFYC, Indiegogo, the charity, they're just pieces in the game of "how much can we screw over Zoe"

The shirt has to be fixed though.
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>>34586157
Oh shit! This whole affair probably ruined TFYC's standing with the professional-indie community. Remember when those kotaku faggots first told TFYC to give money to Quinn's 'game jam' fraud? This might be the same thing, except TFYC didn't want to give the money directly to Quinn, so the two agreed to do this and funnel the profits from the shirts to her charity of choice.

It's a conspiracy!
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Wait a fucking minute if there 8 letter password was guess please don't tell me the password was actually PASSWORD
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>>34586440
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anschluss
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>>34586475
I'm pretty sure the claim that this is giving money to Zoe, is just ZIDF disinfo.
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>>34585508

I told you all you were retards. Why would any of you support a shirt that says:
>I don't care if you're fat, ugly or queer

>>34585591

Is right. /pol/ got Jew'd.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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/v/ owns the shirt why doesn't /v/ handle the shirt's creation, sale, and charity donations?
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>>34586584
They said alphanumeric, so maybe it was p455w0rd.
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>>34586569
Holy fuck, someone actually thinking straight here...
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>>34586584
probably P4SSW0RD
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>>34586523
I would change it to be less explicit, like

"I don't care who you like or what you look like" rather than LGBT or whatever. But I tink they just belted this out to have something to demo. Saying "ugly" is really not good, they are gonna have to revise this anyway.
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>>34586394
On a side note, I'm not that impressed with her family pedigree. My heritage is merchant as fuck, too. Only difference seems to be is mine went South to operate and we all know how that worked out.
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>>34586157
That was kind of fast for them to suddenly create a new idea to get more money. (I know it goes to charity, stop telling me) Also pretty convenient they know exactly where that money should go. Even if the charity is 110% legit and you niggers have to do the shirt idea that money should go to cancer. In addition to cancer we need to not take the Zoe associated charity option. She doesn't need anymore internet fame. The idea of her needs to fade from history. This is our win and her loss, don't let them set it up to where our donations make her look good.
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>>34585722
this
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>>34586524
Heil Hitler, you fucking faggot
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>>34586117
>>34585947
>>34586157
I just did what I do best. I took your little plan and I turned it on itself. Look what I did to this misogynist movement with a red herring crowd fund and a couple of forum posts. Hmmm? You know... You know what I've noticed? Nobody panics when things go "according to plan." Even if the plan is horrifying! If, tomorrow, I tell /pol/ that, like, a we're raising money to counter troll, or we're making infographics to send out to journalists, nobody panics, because it's all "part of the plan". But when I say that we're using the money to make shirts and donate to my charity, well then everyone loses their minds!
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>>34586552
Someone hacked their Twitter and is rusing it to fund Zoe
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>>34586065


>>34586523
Firstly. I had mentioned in >>34586229
The shirt is totally revisable. As long as no shitpost.
2) I had suggested in >>34586415 that we will not be involved with Zoe, but we need to use pretty words, or they gonna be onto us again and say that we are not tolerance to women / hating Zoe/ rapist.

Btw,
>>34586482
You can do whatever you want,
But to outside, we are showing our good side.
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well we got outjewed by the jews.

GG no re
was fun till it lasted
see you next round, merchant
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>>34586564
>This all just seems like an unnecessary compromise to avoid "hurt feelings."

And this is why /pol/ can into strategy games more than /v/

This guy got it right.
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>>34586564
Who cares about hurt feelings? I really don't get it. They have the moral high ground and it should be people like Zoe Quinn and FemFreq who should be trying to make peace with their and join their cause by donating or positively promoting, not the other way around and especially not like this.

Yeah, yeah faggots we know the money isn't going to Zoe Quinn. We are all just pissed that they had to fucking do this in the first place when they could have just sold shirts, donated to charity, without making it to be about that woman.
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>>34586564
>This all just seems like an unnecessary compromise to avoid "hurt feelings."
If it goes ahead I can't see it makign the slightest difference. They think we're terrorists for fucks sake.
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>>34586574
shut up for a second.

>>34586523
the message should be "i don't care who you are or what you do, just shut up and play the fucking game."
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>>34586608
The shirt should say: "I just want to play video games." nothing else, no compromise.
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>>34586636
>4chan
>Good publicity?

Uhh...
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