Thoughts on this clip /pol/? It aired in 2007 with no controversy on one of the greatest shows of all time and was very popular at the time
>What would happen if it aired today?
>Would it be banned in some countries that ban hate speech?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SydfoFLWmds
Probably. Look at how sterile and un-funny everything is on TV now. The only thing they're allowed to make fun of are straight, white males.
I gave up satellite 4 years ago, and don't miss any of it.
>>79785474
It's fictional, why would it cause controversy?
I'm pretty sure the actor just acted to be a homophobic(conservative?) italian-american mobster.
>>79787065
> The only thing they're allowed to CURBSTOMP are straight, white males.
FTFY. BUT TOGETHER, WE CAN FIX AMERICA!
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THEY ARE UNASHAMED TO BRAG ABOUT IT: http://www.snopes.com/2015/06/25/luke-massie-smith/
> Your home in ashes, your starving children strewn about you half-dead and sobbing, packs of vicious wild dogs roaming the streets of once-happy American suburbs feeding off the weak, the cities burning on the horizon and the ground rumbling underfoot from the Chinese tanks out enforcing the new government's mandatory curfew.
> And always, through the din of screams and smoke and jackboots marching in unison, above it all you hear Obama laughing. It's been three weeks since you've had anything but pages torn from the family bible to eat. Your feet ache; your shoes have long ago been stolen by roving gangs of armed minorities and the tattered strips of the American flag you've bound them in do little to stop the cold, let alone the blisters.
THEY STABBED INNOCENTS IN SACRAMENTO, AND WERE KNOWN TO THREATEN OTHERS WITH KNIVES:
https://youtu.be/Ou_XUHgnNNI?t=3m55s [Embed] [Embed]
http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/fund112006.php3
> Just last June Ms. Gratz filed a report with Detroit police accusing Luke Massie, national chairman of the activist group By Any Means Necessary, of displaying a knife during a heated confrontation outside a state civil rights meeting. "It was one of several attempts to either intimidate me or attack my character," she said yesterday in an interview after a speech she gave at the National Association of Scholars meeting in Boston. She said Mr. Massie had a knife in his right pants pocket and toyed with it, pulling it halfway out of his pants but not drawing its blade. Mr. Massie denies the allegation.
>>79785474
>>79787456
Good fucking show though, currently re-watching it for the 3rd time.
>>79785474
Eh, Phil is supposed to be the villain. Tony was actually pretty indifferent about Vito's faggotry.
>>79787721
>>79787639
Yea i agree, if it happened in "current year" The Sopranos would have a more diverse cast and Phil would be the token evil old fashioned white male and the only one who wanted to kill Vito. (A lot of mobsters on both sides wanted him dead)
>>79787721
>Good fucking show though, currently re-watching it for the 3rd time.
same, 4th time tho!!
>>79787639
What did she mean by, "Get off OUR streets"?
>>79785474
Phil was probably a closet case.
To everybody saying it's because Phil was the villain, what about this:
http://youtu.be/jPLduQIZFzQ
Easily the best TV show ever, by the way. I really want to watch it again.
>>79787915
Tony wanted to let him live, but in the end he had him killed but Phil beat him to it. And I don't think anyone felt bad for Vito because he killed that random guy the episode before
>>79788765
he never had the makings of a varsity athlete
>>79787721
It`s the only show I rewatch. Seen it 3 times through and I can still put on a random episode and find something new.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf0mV5nZrzY
>>79788765
This is another classic example, imagine the BLM chimpout that would happen on twitter if this aired
>>79789682
that face at 0:30
flawless
>>79785474
>>What would happen if it aired today?
it wouldn't air today because there will never be another series that will be as great as the sopranos. nothing has even come close yet
>>79785474
JUST BECAUSE A PIECE OF WORK HAS SOMETHING DOESN'T MEAN IT'S FOR SOMETHING
HOLY FUCK, WHY DOES EVERYBODY KEEP FORGETTING THIS?
THE HELLBLAZER COMICS HAVE DEMONS BUT IT'S NOT SATANIC
SLAVERY MOVIES HAVE SLAVERY BUT THEY'RE NOT PRO SLAVERY
HOLY FUCK EVERYBODY IS SO FUCKING STUPID
>>79790428
>what is The Wire
>>79790682
please don't compare the wire to the sopranos. the wire is garbage, liberal bullshit filled with two cent philosophy such as we wuz pawnz n sheeeit that only resonates with niggers are suburban white kids
Sopranos is the best show of all time, alongside BB. Makes me proud of my somewhat Italian heritage
GABAGOOL
>>79790682
The wire ended a year after the Sopranos so pretty much the same time frame
>>79790682
I've watched The Wire twice and The Sopranos only once years before ever going on /pol/, and I thought and still think The Sopranos is legitimately better. I'm not the only one who thinks so either:
http://www.wga.org/writers-room/101-best-lists/101-best-written-tv-series/list
>>79788765
>You'll suck our cocks?
>Is she any good?
>What am I asking you for you probably showed her how.
>Closet case.
Yeah nah he's just a cunt
>>79787721
I love the Sopranos, but for some reason whenever I re-watch it I just get bored by the second or third season. I think I've seen the older episodes too many times to ever really enjoy them again, I need to just read up on the plot and start at the 4th season or something. It just doesn't have a lot of rewatchability for me.
>>79790841
Sopranos is GOAT, and the nostalgia ages it like a fine wine even more so.
>>79790835
I always hear this being parroted but the show itself didn't strike me as having any kind of blatant ideology
g a b a g o o l
>>79785474
>that one episode where Meadow gets her bike stolen by a nigger and Tony does a smug_pepe.jpeg while she REEEs about it not being about race
But I felt genuinely sick when Meadow decided to get back at her dad by fucking a literal jewish nigger (thas rite)
>>79785474
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY5EdTa9y08
I'd also like to point out they have an episode where they are talking about cucking like 13 years before it became a meme.
>>79791202
It did though, it made it seem like all the blacks were these deep characters with tragic lives and they were all suave gangsters. Reality is that most niggers are just criminals because they think it's cool, and that they aren't smart about it at all, hence the reason most of them end up in prison.
The Wire nigger: "If we shoot him, we can weaken their leadership and make a move on their street with our new product, thus capturing the market and expanding our business."
Real nigger: "Yo dis foo standin on my corna wearin red Imma pop his ass"
People say The Wire was great because it was so realistic...it's not at all.
>>79790660
Slavery movies portray slaves as former kangs oppressed by the evil whitey. In the sopranos not just Phil but most of the likable characters supported murdering vito just because he was gay
>>79791258
GABAGOOL? OVA HERE
>>79790682
Hello wire fag
And now Gandolfini is dead. Turns out being fat is more degenerate than being black or gay.
>>79785474
You missed out on Dead Wood. Season 2 eps. 10, "Advances, None Miraculous" has a black stable keeper who was derelict is his job that resulted in a boy getting trampled to death by a horse, gets tarred in the middle of the road by an angry white mob.
"Jungle fucking niggers" is what the leader of the mob yells right before the mob starts searching for the black guy.
The black guy who gets tarred was on the show Oz years ago, and the
"Jungle Fucking Niggers" guy is currently on Orange is The New Black
>>79791515
Silvio is the best character, hands down. That episode when he's losing his shit over poker makes me laugh every time.
>>79788765
Jamal Ginsberg, the hasidic homeboy
>>79791202
ok, lets ignore the ideology. the acting was bad and natural character development didn't exist. the plot was often circular and went nowhere for episodes on end until they just condense it altogether including the character development. the biggest reason the wire gets any sort of acknowledgement is that people seem to think it's based on real people and events. it's not. it may have been at one point when drawing it up, but these are purely fictional characters and scenarios that have no connection with or semblance of the real life people they were supposedly based on
>>79788981
MUTHAH FUCKAH!!!!
>>79791660
>not liking paulie the best character
>>79791202
>what is Hamsterdam
Season 3 was the worst.
>>79791459
You are generalizing. The show was written by a former police reporter, I'm guessing he is more informed about crime than you.
>>79791718
>>79791660
>>79791661
HASIDIM
BUT I DON'T BELIEVE HIM
>>79791459
kek
its funny because its true.
Thats probably because the wire had all white writers so they just assumed they had the same kind of reasoning as the mafia.
>>79791787
the show was written by a liberal
My favorite Phil moment was when he literally comes out of Vito's closet when he kills him
>Phil "The fag basher" Leotardo
>Phil "Come out of the closet and he'll come out of your closet" Leotardo
Wait what the fuck is "corn holing"
I mean i assume it involves corn?
>>79791907
was it a broomstick or baseball bat they shoved up Vito's coit?
>>7979169
The show isn't about character development, it's about how institutions affect individuals. I thought the acting was fine but that's just my opinion.
>>79791907
I've watched the series several times and am embarrassed to say this never occurred to me
>>79792038
butt fucking or anal intercourse if you prefer
Yeah then they just open fag bars because they know how much they can drink. Unlike them? Is this a contest? We will support you weirdos sometimes but you don't need to make us your collective bitch. Groups are coming around to this. Also. Why does this matter?
>>79792038
corn in your shit. the hole shit comes out of. putting your penis in it. faggot.
All of you are fucking wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4OakqPbUj0
>Paulie: You're not gonna believe this, he killed 16 Czechoslovakians, guy was an interior decorator..
>Moltisanti: his house looked like shit
>>79791718
Paulie was great but he was really whiny a lot of the time, and it was pretty funny, but I also have to factor in how badass they are into the equation, and I think Sil would have wrecked Paulie's world. Hell, a lot of the plotlines are how Paulie is a little backstabber or whiny bitch. Silvio is just a bad motherfucker.
>>79792122
>>79792181
well thats misleading
using a corn cob as a dildo would make more sense & fit the term better but whatever
>>79791877
David Simon, the show's creator, is literally a Jew who supports Black Lives Matter.
But years before all of that, when I would still proudly call myself a liberal, I preferred The Sopranos to The Wire.
It's hard to compare the two shows because they're both excellent, but The Sopranos always just edged out The Wire in my mind for some reason, even though I decided to watch The Wire twice and not The Sopranos yet.
>>79791612
The rants that drunk goes on are epic
>>79792319
This
>>79785474
Come on m8, everyone knows the greatest scene is when Tony's daughter brings home the black jew
>>79787456
Fiction is policed even more than reality is because it can be controlled more .
>>79792101
>The show isn't about character development
Never use this statement about any drama, it instantly tarnishes the show but saying is a dramatised documentary with subpar drama.
Word to the wise, remember Pearl Harbor.
>>79792280
yep, Paulie was an insecure little bitch. Sil was a true alpha. My favorite Sil moment is when he went to take Ralphie's stripper girlfriend back to the Bing.
>Junior: A Chinaman goes to see the eye doctor. After the exam the doctor said, "I know why you're having trouble." The Chinaman says, "why?" Doctor said, "you have a cataract." Chinaman says, "no, I have a Rincoln Continental." (short pause) You don't get it?
>Bobby: I get it. He drives a Lincoln Continental. What?
Been forever since I watched it, but my 2 favorite scenes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Bgi3z4M-Mo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBcbc8eWz6U
>>79790835
so much this!
I grew up in NYC surrounding by niggers in school and the workplace. Who in the hell wants to watch TNB and listen to niggerbabble for entertainment?
the show in one screencap
>>79792527
Character development isn't the same as good drama, I don't get what you're trying to say.
imagine if this happened today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dx5DmSv3dY
E!SJW would just explode
>>79792527
That may be the issue. The Wire is more about "the system" rather than the development of complicated people. The Wire does make use of complicated people, and I'm sure that as a journalist in Boston, David Simon saw these people; but the characters are kind of like a journalist's schetch. For example, McNulty is the drunk, serial-philandering cop stereotype.
>>79792899
but did tony died, tho?
>"he always talked about greasing the unions but I didn't know he meant it like that"
>Patsy laughing hysterically in the background.
>>79791202
Check out Trump's twitter. David Simon, the writer of the Wire, has been tweeting pure vitriol at Trump. I liked the wire, but got wise to Simon immediately while watching Treme.
>>79793080
its not really definitive but more than likely yes
>>79793008
It's ok.
Character development adds depth to drama by adding layers and multiple viewpoints and conflicts interpersonal and internal and global.
It's something Sopranos did particularly well, The Wire only to a degree.
When the drama isn't forcing a character to grow or development audiences detach and emotionally remove their investment from the character- as what's happened in some arcs of Game of Thrones later seasons.
>>79792038
Anal sex. Rumor has it people used to use corncobs for toilet paper, hence, corn hole.
>>79793368
I still believe
all that money and this is what gandolfini ended up wth, not sure if win
>>79793419
>he's never had corn in his shit
>>79790841
i mean big brother is a guilty pleasure but cmon it's no sopranos.
deadwood was also elite for the first 2 seasons...
six feet under was kinda gay but probably had the GOAT finale
showtime is SHIT at finales.
>>79792319
You never go from cornhole to cakehole.
>>79793419
>corncobs as toilet paper
I can see it. Our forebears were some resourceful motherfuckers.
>>79793073
100% agree.
>>79791515
Anybody else here watch lilyhammer? I loved that show, too bad it got canceled after season 3.
>No more Butchie!... No more!
Who here /shillforphil/
>>79793670
McNulty never really changed, but seemingly, he was the main character. He bucked the system from beginning to in, and that's all you can really say about him.
The Wire was brilliantly written, and it's Obama's favorite show (seriously). The sad thing is though, nothing really changes except, maybe with Marlo, the younger generation becomes more nihilistic.
The fact that none of the characters really react to what they're experiencing as things degrade is a major drawback to me.
>>79793368
Its definitive, he really died. Why else the screen would go black in the middle of the scene
>>79787639
>ftfy
You need to go back, faggot.
>>79794093
I fucking loved that show. I think the humor was pretty Norwegian, though, so lots of people didn't get it.
>>79785474
Let's not forget this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU339Qs3rSU
Is it really that bad in America that you can't make casual racist jokes publicly?
>>79785474
Yeah, because the guy wasn't exactly being portrayed positively.
Imagine if they had the lead protagonist of a show like Grimm go on an anti-homo rant.
>>79795193
Not anymore. At least not in our mainstream media.
>>79795193
you can, just don't do it at work if you happen to work in an office or some place similar with a lot of female employees
>>79785474
Best clip from that season where Tony's talking about Vito and says " he's a fag", that and " I love you johnny cakes"
>>79796073
>>79796058
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHubo-kaJfA
kek
>>79791718
Paulie Walnuts all the way.
TRUMP-WALNUTS 2016
>>79795001
"Remember that in the book, Mario Puzo's version of this meeting isn't as racist. Puzo emphasizes that the other mobsters are annoyed by the racist rant. Coppola's cut of this scene makes it appear as if the entire commission is on board with destroying the black community. Deviates from Puzo's story."
thank god the movie changed that because that's fucking retarded. Why would the mobsters be upset about racism towards nignogs when they are criminals that intentionally and proudly deviate from societal morals and their very organization disallows anyone that's not a pureblooded italian to join?
>>79800388
>Why would the mobsters be upset about racism towards nignogs
Because it's a self-serving rationalization?
They agree that dealing drugs is likely to damage their communities. They don't see themselves as bad people, just as realists about human nature. They want to make their money in a way that leaves the community strong and healthy.
But this one guy justifies himself by saying, "Oh, the blacks are animals anyway. No matter how much we contribute to their depravity doesn't matter." If you're going to have black people living in your city, and you care about the city, you still want them to be the best-behaved, most upstanding, sober, and respectable black people you can have them be, no matter what your opinion of black people.
His attitude isn't reasonable. It's bullshit.
![hLF78pu[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1Jd01ey.jpg "hLF78pu[1].jpg")
>gabagool
Do they actually eat raw pork slices all the time? How the fuck am i supposed to even eat this
>>79787639
they didn't beat him for being white
they beat him for being a nazi
I'm not saying what they did was right, but still
>>79785474
>/pol/ unironically thinks these people aren't white
Why would anyone want to be associated with the SJW cuckoldry that is the white race in current year? Srsly.
>>79795193
We can depending on the state you live in. Everyone does that shit here in Indiana. I'm not sure about other places because I haven't lived anywhere else besides Louisiana (where you can also do the same thing).
>>79804696
It's cured meat, not raw.
it's HBO, they still have swearing in their shows today. and this scene was cut when the show was rerun on other networks after.
>>79792596
that girl was so fucking hot
