The guy's a complete retard. HAHAHAHAHHA
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-admits-he-has-absolutely-no-idea-what-will-happen-if-britain-leaves-the-eu-a7082126.html
>1 post by this ID
finnshill
So, let me get this straight.
UKIP has existed since 1993, it has been campaigning to leave for that long. 23 years.
They are now a relatively major party in the UK in terms of numbers and they have "absolutely no clue" what'll happen if we leave?
They are gambling with the lives and futures of millions of people, without any idea what'll happen at all?
Ignoring the mountains of evidence from experts which all point to it being a horrible idea?
This is the only reason his party exists, this is the only issue they've ever mattered and they don't have a fucking clue what'll happen. Hmm, really makes you think.
>>77437123
Fag
>>77437455
They arent in power you fucking moron. Its upto Camerons government to sort out the post leave affairs.
>>77437455
>They are gambling with the lives and futures of millions of people, without any idea what'll happen at all?
This is hyperbolic at best and down right dishonest at worst
Britain was fine before the EU and they'll be fine without it now
The EU isn't some life-force that allows member states to function
Seeing as the EU is increasingly growing in power it only stands to reason that if Britain wishes to maintain complete sovereignty then they should leave
The EU is nothing more than a manifestation of neoliberalism and everything bad that it entails
>>77437077
He was asked what would happen in the week following the vote, not what would happen when the UK leaves the EU.
Realistically, whats the worst that could happen?
>>77437455
Literally cartoon characters
>>77437455
The same thing that happened before they joined.
Literally nothing.
Seriously.
>>77439921
can't they become friends with Russia if they ditch the EU?
>>77437455
>and they don't have a fucking clue what'll happen
pretending you do have a clue what will happen is basically admitting you're a fucking idiot
anything could happen
>>77439642
>>77439642
Recession.
It would be short term and minimal.
Long term they are concerned about wages rising (thus costs rising).
That's about it. Some businesses believe that not being able to make trade deals as a large pan-national bloc will get them less preferable trade deals.
But that's kind of thin reasoning.
They don't know what will happen if they stay in the EU either.
In politics, sometimes you have to just pick a principle and stick with it. Sovereignty seems just as good a principle as any.
>>77439642
Breakup of the UK seems likely. Scotland would rather be in the EU than UK, Norn Iron doesn't want the full fledged border with Ireland reinstated and Wales isn't sticking around in a UK that's just them and England.
>>77439642
remain shills say that wages will go down and prices of goods will rise because they are no longer part of the EU trade bloc and they're also saying that travel to EU nations will become very difficult
they don't offer any evidence of this aside from vaguely worded op-ed pieces and buzzword-filled conjecture
>>77437077
>HAHAHAHAHHA
I think you summed up yourself quite nicely
>>77437123
This is per thread you dos cunt
>>77440044
They can be friends with anybody.
The E.U. says they will get less solid deals without the combined power of Europe.
But honestly, for a country like France or England it feels like the deals could be just as good on your own without having to cut in draggers like Greece and Spain.
>>77440180
Wales is going nowhere.
Scotland won't for awhile.
N. Ireland probably won't change it's set up because stability.
>>77440180
>SNP: "we want independence from the UK!"
>SNP: "vote REMAIN"
boggles the mind t b h
>>77440180
People here are not too fond of the EU either fishing is a fairly large industry.
>>77440223
>they don't offer any evidence of this aside
It stands to reason that if the UK leaves the EU, it will have no longer be part of any EU trade or visa deals.
>>77440223
The travel thing is hilarious. It will go from as difficult as crossing U.S. state lines to as difficult as crossing into Canada. Unless you're a smuggler...big deal.
>>77437077
Nigey is controlled zog opposition like all rightists
>>77440392
Greenland left because of fishing restrictions and is now considering reapplying.
Watch out for anti-Brexit shills Bongs
>>77440405
No it doesn't.
Because other non members have trade deals and visa deals with E.U. states.
>>77439642
Pigfucker will try to crash the country with no survivors and try to blame the Brexit
>>77440518
Greenland isn't the 5th largest economy in the world.
>>77440458
>It will go from as difficult as crossing U.S. state lines to as difficult as crossing into Canada.
That won't be up to the UK.
>>77440278
>But honestly, for a country like France or England it feels like the deals could be just as good on your own without having to cut in draggers like Greece and Spain.
That's not really how trade deals work. Negotiating with "draggers" like Greece and Spain along just means you are negotiating as a larger market, which is an advantage.
>>77440590
Pig fucker will likely resign after the referendum desu
>>77437077
What he has said is currency value is unpredictable, it's going to go up and down regardless of Brexit and faggots always going on about it are just showing how ignorant of economics they are
>>77440679
People in the UK really are not very concerned about emigrating, its immigration people largely dislike.
>>77440458
That's a big deal when you're shipping goods and equipment or transmitting data. Going through customs even to Canada can be a major pain in the ass and many businesses on either side won't use contractors on the other side because of it
>>77440405
There's no reason why they can't have deals independent of the EU
If the vote goes to leave then there will be a two-year period from then in which the government will begin to draft new deals with other nations before they officially pull out and jizz all over the continentals
>>77440794
>People in the UK really are not very concerned about emigrating
Who said anything about emigrating? How many Brits go on holiday in Europe each year?
>>77440876
>There's no reason why they can't have deals independent of the EU
Of course. They'll just be in a weaker position when negotiating.
I dont understand what advantage we got from the EU apart from unified mobile phone chargers
>first female president
>breremain
>gender wage equality
>socialized federal economy
>sensible gun restrictions
future's looking bright boyoos!
>>77440907
It's not exactly difficult to get a holiday visa
>>77437123
>t. faggot amerifat who got outed as a shill
>>77441010
>It's not exactly difficult to get a holiday visa
That won't be up to the UK.
>>77440907
How fucking hard can it be? The US isn't in the EU and we don't have issues going there for vacation.
>>77441007
I swear if these come to pass I'm defaulting on my tv licence going on a mass butter knife spree
>>77441049
What the fuck are you talking about you retard?
>>77440985
All those nice new neighbors
>>77441049
So Spain gets 12 million British tourists a year and suddenly that comes to an end because the EU wants to shaft Britain. It sounds like Spain would likely lose the most in this situation.
>>77440951
Actually, they'll be in a stronger position to negotiate as they'l be able to have full say on their own terms without the EU delegating for them
>>77441049
no problemo nedderdand and goymerny will take them once they mark the "refuggee ficki ficki" status in the application
>>77437077
You really don't need Brexit to realize Farage is a moron, that's been obvious if you've ever taken a closer look at UKIP goals
>>77437455
>>77437077
We know what WILL happen with Labour, you antifa kike.
>>77437077
>>77441287
Finland confirmed for faggot merkel puppets.
Nigel Farage cannot predict the future, world shocked.
>>77441410
I don't give a shit about how EU gets destroyed, I'm referring to the anti-science agenda of UKIP
>>77437455
They have plenty of ideas for policies they want to do; they even had the best manifesto last election; all properly budgeted out and indepndently checked. But Farage is being truthful and saying that he's not in government, he doesn't know how the government will react to a Leave vote, or what will happen when Britain takes the unprecedented step of leaving the EU.
>>77440180
Why the fuck would Wales leave you silly salty licorice eating cunt
>>77437077
doing nothing is better than getting ripped off and killed.
>>77437077
We do know what happens if you remain. Your country gets completely cucked. Can't get worse than that, OP.
Brexit has to happen.
>>77441493
>Suddenly anti-Brexit, anti-UKIP shills everywhere
Fuck off shill. Is there a big vote coming up or something? It's hard to explain where all these nigger sills came from all of a sudden.
>>77441580
I really like are nige
He tells the truth whereas the tories and others just spout whatever memes that have been concocted by the party intelligentsia
>>77440679
Why would they suddenly make it unnaturally hard for the British to travel?
Just spite?
>>77441664
Continentals are worried that a Brexit will encourage other nations to do the same
Netherlands would be the next to go after Britain does
>>77441800
They wouldn't
It's asinine remain propaganda
>>77441119
BIN IT
>>77441049
For what reason would European countries block people from Britain coming to their countries and spending a shit ton of money? Every other country in the world can come to the EU easily on holiday; why would Britain be barred for no reason other than spite?
And even if you do bar Brits from going to Europe, they'll just go elsewhere in the world. They'll go to Switzerland instead of France, Germany, Austria or Italy. They'll go to America, they'll even go on holiday in Britain itself.
It's a stupid idea to even suggest that Britain leaving the EU means that no more European holidays. But even if it did, I would still vote leave because my nation's continued survival and the restoration of our sovereignty is worth more than a few weeks in the South of France.
>>77437077
>muh sovereignty
>muh freedom
>muh deals with the whole world
>muh farage
>muh boris
Brits are so fucking dumb, t b h. Literal apes.
But I'm quite excited to see what happens if they leave, will be fun.
>>77441664
Farage does more damage than good for the leave vote, senpai
>>77441664
/int/ has been riddled with EU shills in the run up to the referendum.
>>77441890
t. literal third world nation
>>77440907
It's no big deal for Australians and we aren't in the E.U.
>>77441965
No one takes the time to read all that drivel
Why even screencap it you urchin
>>77441988
>t. a fucking Sub-saharan nigger...
>>77440951
With some countries. They'll have better deals with some.
>>77441925
We wouldn't even be having this vote if it wasn't for him. Farage is constantly falsely tarred as a racist fascist and whenever people actually listen to what he says or read his policies rather than just scream 'Racist' at him, his approval ratings go up.
>>77441890
Putting "muh" in front of important matters isn't an argument you fucking moron.
>>77440951
The EU only has three actual trade deals in place with Mexico, Columbia and South Korea. Iceland and Switzerland have more trade deals that benefit them greatly than the EU.
>>77437455
>mountains of evidence from experts which all point to it being a horrible idea?
The experts that get all their money from the EU? Those experts?
There is a very good reason claims from medical companies with research they fund themselves are considered bogus.
>Implying anyone knows what will happen if we stay or leave
Fuck off m8, no-one knows, anyone who thinks the safe play is to stay in the EU is delusional.
>>77440405
>>77440458
>>77440561
>>77440679
>>77440794
>>77440831
>>77440907
>>77440951
>>77441010
>>77441049
>>77441163
>>77441195
>>77441874
The Netherlands would love to have a free trade deal and no travel restrictions between us and teh K after a Brexit. So would a lot of countries that benefit from British tourism every year, but trade deals and travel treaties are dealt with as a bloc by voter majority. You all forget the level of butthurtness of some European countries after a Brexit. Lastly, Britain competes with some other EU countries in the common market, those countries will be glad to make it harder for you to trade in the market.
>>77440180
It's cute when foreigners who have zero knowledge of something chime in.
>>77441890
>It will be fun
haha yes I agree, something to spice it up even more
>>77442155
By "muh" I implied how stupid they sound since they have no real meaning behind them.
I understand this is /pol/ and /pol/ as a whole is extremely anti-establishment, but when your arguments don't make any goddamn sense, then yes, it's funny and it should be laughed at.
>>77440180
It has been scientifically proven Scots are the dumbest voters of any demographic.
>>77442338
UK has the upper hand on all European nations when it comes to trade power
They make other European nations look third world in terms of economic output per capita
>>77437077
>>77437455
>2 posts by this ID
>>77442606
>UK has the upper hand on all European nations
Fucking retard, the EU acts as one, not 28 separate countries when it comes to trade deals and the like. Nobody is going to give the UK a favourable trade deal, that's absolutely preposterous.
Do you even logic?
>>77442055
Kill yourself, shill nigger.
>>77442606
>They make other European nations look third world in terms of economic output per capita
>per capita
Even Ireland ranks higher
>>77440679
I'm sure brits love paying for greek defiicits too
>>77442655
>3 posts by this ID
>>77442730
Considering Germany's economy will die without the UK, they, the economic leaders of the EU, will force the rest of the EU to trade with UK.
>>77442655
>Dubs posted by this ID
>>77442880
nice
>>77442845
The Republic of Ireland is kept afloat by UK money
>>77442549
>stupid they sound since they have no real meaning behind them.
>Sovereignty
>>77442890
>Considering Germany's economy will die without the UK
That's straight from Farage right there. You don't know what you're talking about at all.
I don't know if I'm getting baited, or you really actually believe this.
Better than knowing for certain that Britain will cease to exist with the EU.
>>77442730
And why wouldn't they give the UK a favorable trade deal?
Out of spite?
Give me a break
Where there's money to be made people will make it and there will be plenty of money to be made with favorable trade deals with the UK
The EU is doomed as it exists anyway. Countries like Spain,France and Italy need to be running debt and stimulus to have any sort of growth ever and they have no power to because Germany and the nations in its supply chain are just fine with how it is now and eternal austerity.
>>77437077
I am an expatriate Briton who has spent the last 20 years living in various other European countries but I am getting enormous satisfaction at seeing what copious amounts of fear-impelled diarrhea the growing possibility of an actual Brexit is inducing among the European chapters of the globalist shill brotherhood.
Brexit is really getting like Trump for Europe. The arrogant globalists in their cocoons of upper-class privilege really never saw this coming and they have completely lost it, with desperate shilling posts on /pol/ like this one, Bob Geldof and a dozen multi-millionaire chums on luxury yachts screaming obscenities at struggling working fishermen, and a thousand other acts of panic that amount to them shooting themselves in the foot.
The standard of "argument" is now sinking to levels of absolutely baseless verbiage and rhetoric that even globalist virtue-signallers never sank to before. It's amusing to see how people "on the right side of history" seem to have lost all knowledge of history stretching back more than forty years. This kind of nonsense about whether Britain should "take a leap into the unknown" clearly forgets that Britain was IN that "unknown" just 45 years ago and was in a hell of a lot better state then than it is now.
>>77443027
Mate, what sovereignty are you talking about? The EU isn't going to annex you or anything, it isn't going to put you in a Union you don't want. Every nation can block the treaties that infringe on your sovereignty. T b h, if you really make a deal with the EU after leaving, you'll be only "sovereign" on words.
>>77443107
Lots of reasons. One reason is that the EU will make an example of them as a warning for other countries, the other is that the EU is simply a way larger economy than the UK is, and in case of a deal, the larger economy always makes the terms. Also, they trade with the EU faaaar more than the EU trades with them, which is absolutely huge.
Sure, they can get the EFTA, but considering they don't want to be told what to do by the EU, don't want freedom of movement, don't want to give money to the EU budget, then that's a horrible deal for them.
>>77437077
are you jsut stupid or? He is obviously saying he has no idea what will happen because it will be up to the UK this time, rather than the same shit that EU has been doing
It's better to risk the chance of failure on a gamble than to just accept guaranteed failure.
>>77437077
I find it hilarious how the left/right ground troops are reversed on this issue.
The EU evolved from the EEC and earlier trade agreements.
It's a trading bloc at its core.
It exists to make the rich richer and to allow business control of european nations
Yet somehow they've managed to sell the thing to leftists as some "pan-european great borderless union" and convinced them it's like the next communist utopia.
And the skeptics seem to be mostly on the right - the hard nationalist types.
It's absurd.
In the old days the trade union leftists hated the idea of a united Europe and the right wingers were the ones pushing it.
However - of course Nigel has no idea what will happen - there's new treaties to be hammered out and economics isn't an exact enough science that there's a clear consensus as to what will happen economically that in any way reflects reality.
No one knows what will happen overall.
But signs are it'll be ok overall.
>>77440180
>>77440372
>Scots leaving the UK
It will be impossible. Scotland is a parasite that survives on English tax money. They can afford to fund all of their socialist programs because England is so much bigger than them, so the same programs suffer in England itself.
A lot of people have been saying if the UK secedes from the EU, Scotland will just vote for independence and return to the EU. How would this even work in 2016? Several of the EU's biggest contributors are now running on a fucking massive deficit thanks to the aliens, and if I'm remembering right the UK is the second largest tax contributor to the EU.
Remaining in the UK is a way better move for Scotland, and the EU economy will probably crash post-Brexit. It's imperative that England cuts her losses as soon as possible, but if she succeeds there will be no better host for the Scottish disease.
>>77443404
>The EU isn't going to annex you or anything, it isn't going to put you in a Union you don't want
Already done.
>>77437077
And why should he have any idea what will happen? It's government's job to do new deals. If you stay in the EU you might as well hang your politicians and take orders directly from Brussels.
>>77443404
>and in case of a deal, the larger economy always makes the terms
TTIP.
>>77437077
WE ARE BEING FUCKING RAIDED SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE PLEASE
>>77443404
>The EU isn't going to annex you or anything
Ha. Ha ha.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3612257/
>>77443404
Serious question, how much an hour do they pay you guys to do this?
And once your paymasters have been crushed and forced to retreat into hiding with whatever spoils they can still salvage - as, believe me, they will be, because this desperate paid shilling is just a sign that the re-awakening of the people and their sense of sovereignty and nationhood all over the Western world is happening far faster and on a much more massive scale than they were prepared for - are you really so spineless and soulless as to be capable of offering your services, eventually, to us, the victors, as well?
If so, I only hope we have the intelligence and acuity to recognize you and, short of putting you up against a wall, send you scuttling off back to your masters in whatever jungle shithole they end up holed up in.
>>77437455
The 'experts' are the same 'experts' who said we were doomed if we didn't join the Euro.
Yeah. Look at how THAT one worked out.
And the ones who were not pro-Euro shills clearly have vested interests in staying in the EU; such as being heads of multinationals.
>>77443631
I don't see how. You literally have so many opt-outs that the downsides of being in the EU consists of giving less than 1% of your budget to the EU a year.
The countries that have no opt-outs have the right to say that they are losing something, like Netherlands (and they win more than they lose) and etc, but you? Your membership in the EU is easily the best deal you can get.
>>77443671
Calm down, TTIP won't ever pass in it's current form.
>>77440180
>Wales isn't sticking around
>Dutch education
>>77440180
Indy Scotland wouldn't meet the economic requirements to join the EU. And after the trouble Greece caused by getting in through cooking the books; there's no way they'll let Indy Scotland in.
>>77443852
>Dailymail
You're not even trying here, bruv. That's like giving me news from Ukraine with RT.
>>77443909
Wtf are you even talking about?
>>77437077
>Day 1: America starts ignoring you're worthless country because it no longer has a connection to the E,U
>Day 2: France becomes our best buds instead
>Day 3: Most trade is stopped between the UK an EU because of an uncertain regulatory landscape and consusing former laws that rlate to the EU.
>Day 4: Most financial companies stat moving to other countries to better access world markets.
>Day 5: UK is running out of tea and food.
>Day 6: Mass starvation and a Muslim uprising
>Day 7: Sharia law.
>>77444084
Did you actually read the article?
>>77442880
>40 minute gaps between posts
Shill detected.
>>77443614
Scotland has more power in the UK and receives more money per capita than England does. It would be absurd for them to leave.
Strictly speaking, it would benefit England more to leave the UK than Scotland.
>>77443970
TPP passed and it is everything we dread in TTIP. As the larger economy the EU should ensure against that, but it won't.
>>77441965
Christ...
>>77444071
Is that true? Is there somewhere I could look into that because it seems perfect to shut up Europhile Scots.
>>77441119
>implying transatlantic minister clinton will allow it
>>77437123
is this turning into a meme ?
>>77444254
The funny thing is that they have been doing it for a while at this point.
>>77444071
>>77444268
They'd need their own currency. They could already use the Euro before joinig without a seat at the ECB, but that would only cause Greek like effects in Scotland.
They would also need vast amounts of money to shift their economy and make big changes.
Which would have to be 'loaned' by other EU countries.
Won't be easy, but not impossible.
Also it will take several years up to a decade at the bare minimum.
>>77444514
It's too forced to have any real meme potential. It will burn out and be forgotten within the month at a conservative estimate.
>>77444620
Nuh we'll use tha a Pund n da oil wull pay fur evrathun.
>>77444162
Ok, let's say for a second that the article is correct, the UK has a veto. If the government of Britain lets such a thing pass without vetoing it, then the EU is a small problem to the British people compared to their government.
If they leave, what happens? Same shit.
>>77444199
TPP passed mainly because the USA was pushing smaller economies into signing it. TTIP won't ever pass in it's current format because it's between two economies that have almost the same amount of power. Also, the people of Europe are extremely sceptical of this deal and I can assure you, if this somehow makes its way to the final stage, there will be riots.
>>77437077
Nice dubs, shame you're a fag
>>77444792
I think you are misinterpreting the point of keeping an invasion force secret prior to a major election.
>>77444909
I doubt it's a secret if the Dailymail knows about it. I remembering hearing about an EU army 2 weeks ago, actually.
With a drunkard like Juncker who repeatedly said that he doesn't give a flying fuck if the UK leaves, I doubt he cares much about what the Brits will think about an EU army.
>>77437077
Underrated post
>>77445050
Would you try READING the article? Fuck's sake.
>wanting to remain a slave to globalism because freedom is uncertain
fuck anyone that wants to stay
>>77437455
>hat'll happen if we leave?
>we
you're a fucking mongol you shit not a briton
>>77443404
>The EU isn't going to annex you or anything, it isn't going to put you in a Union you don't want
it's a slow process of taking away sovereignty without anyone's knowledge. an USE or EUSSR was their plan from the beginning..
>>77445193
What's your point, man? I said that the UK has a veto on that either way. What are you so worried about?
>>77445321
Well duh, only an idiot would be in the dark about the EU's true purpose, however that's still far far away. And Britain is exempt from the EU's goal of a single state, anyway.
This discussion gets us nowhere, so I'll stop here. Hopefully we'll see who's right and wrong after their referendum (well, I guess only in the case they leave).
If the UK uses their vetoes, then they have nothing to worry about.
>>77442730
>the EU acts as one
Yeah, private businesses in 28 countries will gladly put up with having their dealings with UK disrupted over nothing.
>>77445787
A veto on WHAT?
>>77437455
So, let me get this straight.
The only reason Finland is not annexed or nuked yet, is that its not part of NATO. But it seems to want to join Nato.
Do fins want to be annexed/nuked that hard?
>>77437455
>thinks Farage should predict the economic future like a weatherman
There will be some downturn tied to uncertainties which is a predictable reaction by markets. But the EU is moribund anyway. Think of it instead as a short-term loan to fund a promising startup with limitless potential. Then a couple years to adjust. doesn't seem so bad.
VOTE LEAVE!
>>77437077
how can he know the future exactly
>>77440278
>>77440044
No?
Before being EU cuck, Britain is and will remain US colony obidiently following it in all its crazy enterprizes and policies.
>>77444084
he's talking about your shilling wage ofc
>>77437123
>1 post by this ID
>>77437077
FIN SHILL
SAGE AND REPORT
NICE PROXY M8, BUT NO MATCH FOR JAN CHRISTIAAN SMUTS
