>there are people in this very board who think humans and dinosaurs coexisted
They did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS-HcK7d-LE
We used to sing and dance together in NY back in the 90's.
>>76724493
No one believes this except for a few thousand American creationists similar to the few thousand west african descended retards in the US who follow the Afro-Revisionist movement of European,North African and Levantine history.
Is it possible that a few surviving dinosaurs still walked the Earth at the time of humanity's arrival? Possible for sure. We're still hearing stories and find strange corpses in dense jungles and coastal communities. From pterodactyls in South America to Plesiosaurs in Scotland and the Congo. 93% of the worlds oceans are unmapped so there could be some mutated aquatic specimens deep beneath the water.
Is it possible humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time in abundance as creationists claim? Not a fucking chance.
Also this has nothing to do with politics or political global events. Stop the shitposting please.
>>76724493
We call them americans
>>76726768
Anyone who's a Christian believes they existed with humans
>>76724493
Theres people on this board that believe that jews are the problem to literally everything wrong in this world.
>>76724493
I even know under what flag they are posting
>>76724493
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>>76727850
This, scientists claim the dinosaurs went extinct but then claim animals like crocodiles and coelacanths are living fossils and barely even evolved. So which is it? We evolve after millions of years or we don't?
>>76724493
What are dragons?
How do you explain the prehistoric art then?
>>76728032
>>76728032
Aves = dinosaurs
They don't have the same bone structure as Aves so they're not dinosaurs. Also, cold-blooded and reptiles like crocodilia are cold blooded.
learn2evolution
I hate to be that guy, but alligators and coelacanths are dinosaurs; those of the Cenozoic era.
But certainly, the idea that we lived amongst those from prior eras shows a concerning lack of insight.
>>76728077
Some dinosaurs could have been dragons
>>76728424
Evolution never happened
>>76728574
You got it half right, but this just proves my point even more. If scientists agree these creatures are largely unchanged from supposedly millions of years ago then how can we say that everything else evolved but these? It makes no sense.
Seventh Day Adventists are the only loonies that believe this in 2016
Is it so far fetched to think that dinosaurs could have survived in small groups in isolated areas on earth?
>>76728718
Not every organism evolves, that's why we have living fossils, they have reached some sort of optimallity, I don't know how biologists would describe it.
>>76728916
>Not every organism evolves
keeps evolving*
>>76728916
So there's a point where everything just stops evolving?
OP is a retrad. The world is only 6000 years old and "scientists" who claim otherwise are agents of lucifer.
>>76724493
Of course humans and dinosaurs coexisted you retard.
In fact, we still do, pic fucking related you complete asswipe.
>>76724493
lets laugh at them now
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>76728608
>you will never ride your trusty steed out the front gate of your castle, spear in hand, to slay the local dinosaur
>mfw
>>76729061
Even the church has been infiltrated by satan and he is spreading his reach far and wide using the government, the church, etc. to spread degeneracy so he can have more people in hell.
>>76729012
Not really, but if there is no environmental pressure or sexual selection, an organism will not evolve any further
Earth's environment is too variable for that to happen in the long run, catastrophes like volcano erruptions and meteors are quite common
>>76729012
Mutations still happens, but new traits are basically all bad since the organism adapted to an optimal level to its environment and get weeded out.
That's why the "changing the environment accelerate evolution" meme exist, after all, as demonstrated after all great extinction events.
Incidentally, that's also why people claiming "evolution stopped for humans" are such giant retard. Like sedentarity, civilisation, complex political organisations, industrial revolution and now the information age aren't huge environmental changes, KEK
>>76729341
>>76729409
Or maybe evolution is just a myth
>>76729227
Twist, the steed is a dinosaur.
The spear is from a dinosaur bone.
The gates is made from dinosaur scales and skin, and operated by dinosaur.
You are a dinosaur.
The local dinosaur is a [spoiler]dinosaur[/spoiler].
>>76729288
All mainstream christian churches are subverted. The cathloics have thus far resisted the call for female priests but theyre evened out by the marxist priests who preach equality.
>>76728032
Obviously those specific animals are so incredibly suited to their specific environments and roles in said environment that they have no need to evolve any further.
Evolution, like invention, is bred by necessity. Without the need to evolve an organism wont evolve. Just as a human wont invent something new without the need or desire to change something in life.
>>76729012
You have freaks. If a freak performs much better than normal individuals, he produces other freaks, which produce other freaks, at a greater rate than normal individuals.
For example, humans didn't evolve to have small baby legs, because when a freak is born with them, they don't provide him with any benefits and greater chance to survive and procreate.
Of course I am greatly oversimplifying and using gross, huge leap mutations to make the point obvious, its much more subtle than that, and over a much longer period of time.
>>76729501
Yeah, and maybe the whole planet didn't get a turn on your mother, it's just that all evidence points to the contrary.
>>76729501
It isn't familia, it's been observed in real time on the Galapagos
I've never looked into it or anything, but is there definitive proof that we didn't?
>>76729409
They are huge environmental changes, but there's no environmental pressure to select for certain properties, the only way humans are still evolving is through sexual selection, and not even that, because there's too much mixing
>>76729689
There is absence of proof that we did.
When something can't be proven to be true, and would not fit anyway if it were assumed to be true, its probably not true.
We don't "know", in the same way that we don't know almost anything, but we are pretty convinced, and by assuming it, we come to other pretty convincing conclusions that fit everything, so we go and accept it as fact.
>>76729516
I think for Catholics it depends where you are, here they are not much different from Protestant churches.
>>76729578
>>76729600
Or evolution never happened
>>76729607
she's an atheist who would do something like that unfortunately.
>>76729801
>Or evolution never happened
Or your jewish fantasy novel isn't entirely based on true events.
>>76729866
The bible is 100% fact the only argument atheists have against it are theories which change every decade.
>>76729512
Praise be.
>>76729512
Oh Fuck...
>>76729935
Fucking leaf...
>>76724493
>there are people on this board that think sanders would make a good president.
>>76729951
That's a mint album, mate. What's your opinion on Shards of Silver Fade?
>>76727850
Turtles too
>>76730076
Sorry I don't worship your false prophet
>>76730267
TOPKEK
but jurasic park told me that the dinosaurs didn't die out but instead became birds so
When people read shit like this, how do you expect them to think you would know anything about basic biology, let alone genetics?
There's a reason you people are laughed out of every evolution / biology / history thread on every other board, and this thread is a painful example of it.
> inb4 "we wuz just trollin hahaha"
No. No you weren't.
>>76728718
Evolution is known to halt under curious circumstances. Natural selection and intraspecies eugenics are the two most feasible catchment theories prior to objective proofs - the latter being the most effective. Genetic mutation and its symbiosis within the framework of its surrounding nature is a very large and active topic and should provide some awesome insight in the near future.
>>76729578
This isn't how evolution works.
You genes don't just decide to stop mutating.
>>76729935
The bible is an amalgamation of different religious practices and beliefs that were utilized to build a business out of religion.
>>76730562
Well it kind of is to an extent, there are organisms that have not changed very much due to there being no different selection pressures on them for millions of years, like crocodiles, though that's not to say they have stopped genetically mutating or anything.
>>76729866
Satanist lies.
>>76730487
Or maybe evolution isn't real
>>76730620
This is wrong
>>76730220
Well, they managed to make it longer than Astral Sphere, didn't think that was possible. I hate the intro, but I like the rest. Still though, Astral Sphere is better.
Their demos are awesome too. If you haven't listened to Firmament yet, you should.
>>76730562
There are shutdown processes observed and active within every living cell in your body. It's why you didn't get riddled with cancer within the first month of your life. Mutations themselves can indeed mutate.. it is an ongoing, essentially chance-based, process; resilient lifeforms have mutated to form contingency processes as observed in apoptosis mechanisms.
>>76729935
>>76730893
You just keep ignoring everything that doesn't conform with your beliefs
I gave you an example of evolution being obseved in real time
>>76730893
>or maybe it isn't real
You can speculate all you like without evidence; nobody of importance and certainly nobody of education gives a fuck unless you show your working.
>>76728032
Jesus christ you are dumb. Dinosaurs are in a whole other genus that those reptiles. The closest living relative is a fucking chicken, you twat.
They have barely evolved, but they weren't, and aren't, fucking dinosaurs.
>>76730882
Enjoy committing your entire life to a Jewish plagiarization of the Epic of Gilgamesh.
>>76724493
They still do, tbqh senpai
>>76724493
Hai
>>76730950
No you didn't, because evolution never happened and it never will happen. God made us
>>76731026
Why don't humans high up on mountains evolve wings and fly? Why don't humans living near the coast evolve gills and swim? Why don't humans on plains evolve to walk on 4 legs to chase animals better?
>>76730941
If anybody is miraculously interested, look up "programmed cell death"
>>76727214
It is quite possible to be a Christian and not a fundamentalist YECist.
>>76731177
>>76731177
>a fucking leaf
>>76730893
It's not wrong, you just can't fathom that you were fed lies. You're worse than a high school science teacher that doesn't want to accept that everything they learned in college has been thrown out the window and replaced by new research.
>>76731230
No it's not, if you don't believe the bible you aren't a Christian. Do you believe a man can be a woman because he puts on a wig and woman's clothes?
The reason Christianity is dying is because Christians spread this idea that the bible is false, that it's all meant to be seen as symbolic and not reality. When you just pick and choose what is true and what is false people stop believing.
Emus are the direct descendants of velociraptors they're fucking savage
>>76731177
We have technology that makes it so we don't have to evolve in those ways.
Not only that, but most people don't want to breath with some freak with wing stubs.
>>76731364
I did my research and realised I'm not an atheist I am a Christian. You're right though, I have been fed lies by the school, by the government, by the media.
Today we learn pre marital sex is okay, masturbation is okay, lust is okay, sodomy, homosexuality, polygamy, bestiality and hundreds of other horrible acts and then people wonder why society is on such a huge decline.
>>76731449
I believe you're a retard
>>76731177
Why don't humans high up on mountains evolve wings and fly?
Why don't humans living near the coast evolve gills and swim? Why don't humans on plains evolve to walk on 4 legs to chase animals better?
The answer to all of these is because the delta in the strain of successive mutations is too great for the allocated timeframe you wish to observe it within, and that the surrounding nature hasn't/won't allow for it. There will also be unapproachable physiological dualities because of how far down the line we are in our evolutionary path too.
Your fantastical examples seem to imply that you fear evolution has some kind of conscious quest to evolve. It doesn't. It is chance-based, stacked phenomena that incrementally lead to observable change.
I might as well throw a spanner into the works because I reckon you think I'm some edgy atheist faggot. I am an Orthodox Christian.
>>76731449
The world doesn't have four corners like the bible says. The clouds are clearly not the dust left from gods feet.
Someone that mauls a children with bears for calling someone bald is not worth respecting.
There are thousands of translation "errors" between the current english editions and the oldest known hebrew version.
>>76731593
The bible is okay with polygamy, though.
>>76724493
The earth is 6000-10000 years old. I'm sure they cohabited.
>>76731597
You can believe what you like
>>76731721
You can be a monk and still practice sodomy, your faith is irrelevant when you seem to imply God made some mistake when he made us and has to continually change us.
>>76731735
That's why you compare multiple translations to get the best idea
>>76731779
It is adultery though
>>76724493
We did, and still do now. Birds, alligators, crocodiles, sharks. and even some fish are prehistoric era living fossils.
>>76731908
I "believe" that God let whatever happen and is observing everything around him.
I also suspect that He looks at almost all human life as a pitiful waste of fucking space; who speculate instead of study, assume instead of measure and judge instead of conclude.
You fit all three of those in one single spergposting thread. Congrats. And if He really is watching at the moment, He probably thinks I'm being more of an arsehole than I need to be, but it really is a struggle to talk to stupid people sometimes.
>>76731908
Why did your god create dinosaurs in the first place if he was going to change his mind later and delete them?
>conpare multiple modern translations to get a good idea of what it probably means.
Ffs at least muslims require the original text and don't permit translations.
>>76732099
It isn't adultery if they're all married, and the sinple fact that the bible has rules for polygamy spoken by god himself shows that he's okay with it as long as you don't marry any of your wives siblings.
He even gave someone multiple wives.
>>76729061
Actually it is generally accepted in my area to be between 7 to 12 thousand years old give or take.
>>76732250
Maybe he decided they weren't necessary anymore?
And God created all the different languages in the world, it's unrealistic for every person on earth to learn Hebrew so they can read the bible we are not like Muslims who conquer and force the customs, culture language etc. to change in fact this goes against Gods wishes. After the flood he asked us to spread to every corner of the globe, we ignored him he punished us by creating all the different languages and sent us to every corner of the globe.
>>76732250
>Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
Also yes it is adultery, you would be cheating on one of your wives
>>76732617
Christians pushed their shit all the time. Especially the catholics, or did Rome never exist?
>that quote
Man marries women, they are one flesh. Man marries another woman, they are now also one flesh. Go roll some play-doh on the carpet, and I gauranter you'll manage to get more than one piece of dust stuck to it at a time.
>>76732819
Did Rome ever go to another country slaughter it's people and replace them with Romans? There is nothing wrong with spreading Christianity.
>>76731449
Idiot. Try reading the bible yourself for once. You'd quickly see that most 'facts' in the bible are very clearly just metaphors.
>>76724493
>there are people in this very board who think driving to work magically changes the weather
>>76733096
No they aren't
>>76733020
Rome went and killed pagans and forcibly converted them.
>>76733194
So how about that celestial dragon and the lack of any evidence that Egypt ever kept hebrew slaves and had them all escape all at once.
>>76733368
Well that was wrong
And they did
>>76724493
>there are people on this very board who think dinosaurs existed
>>76733591
And did god also kill 100% of Egypts livestock in Exodus and then go on to rekill the already dead first borns of said livestock?
>>76724493
Yeah, they were pretty chill back in the 80s, until the dinocaust...
The indoctrination is ridiculous though, "muh 65 million". Fuck off.
>>76733787
Could have been an exaggeration, that none of the first borns would be safe even the the cattle. Like how when someone says "he was running so fast he was going a million miles an hour"
>>76734079
So the bible IS symbolic.
>>76733591
>a fucking leaf
>Baiting this many people
>>76724493
Don't mind me OP, just going to post some (((coincidences))).
>>76734159
Look at his flag, idiot. You're being had.
>>76734203
>>76734237
>>76734228
Being canadian doesn't mean he gets a free pass at idiocy.
>>76734159
No it isn't, he did kill the cattle and he did kill the first borns. What's symbolic about that?
>>76734174
Baiting how? Because they refuse to believe? That's not my fault
>>76734203
>>76734237
This is proof that the world is a lot younger than scientists claim it is
>mfw people don't recognize a Dinosaur when they see one
>>76734275
>>76734275
spoony
>>76734412
>>76734387
no bud it's just a series of (((coincidences)))
>>76734493
>>76734473
just a (((coincidence))) goyim nothing to be spooked about
>>76724493
It gets worse, we have fundies who think the world is 6,000 years old.
Go to Christian General and lose your faith in humanity
>>76734387
So he killed the first born cattle twice?
>>76734594
Because that's how old it is
>>76734577
>>76734594
haha your probably right bud. Man people are silly.
>>76727739
>there are people on this board who believe that Jews are not responsible for every evil in the world
How new r u m8?
>>76734493
What are the explanations for this? Visions from the aether given by pagan gods?
>>76734765
haha
>>76734727
Now I know you're just trolling
>>76734815
probably all just a misunderstanding haha
>>76734973
>>76734988
>>76729227
Why even live?
wow all those pics
Is /sci/ btfo?
>>76735012
>>76724493
Jesus was really handsome though.
And science is boring.
>>76735108
Jesus confirmed white-skinned.
>>76724493
You know what I want to know? Why did humans evolve so vastly disproportional to what it takes to survive? Other animals have only the very basics- flight, claws, gills- and here we are launching satellites into space. What sense does that make in the context of evolution?
Dinosaurs are a clade, like mammals, reptiles, amphibians, ect....
Today's birds are the only surviving members of the dinosaur clade following the cretaceous extinction event and there birds are biologically theropods dinosaurs.
So yes humans have and still do coexist with dinosaurs.
There is no evidence that non-avian dinosaurs survived nor is it likely they interacted with humans, even though the prospect of it is exciting.
>>76734392
both dinosaurs and crocodiles are archosaurs and closely related, however modern day crocodilians branched off from the evolutionary tree and are not classified as dinosaurs.
>>76735108
>Jesus was Thor playing a prank with the silly mortals
But Odin wasn't happy that he accidentally the whole norse panthéon.
>>76735220
more like >>76735108 faggot confirmed
>>76724493
but their literally still are dinosaurs alive nowadays, have you never seen a fucking crocodile ?
>>76734412
>From the 1960s Javier Cabrera Darquea collected and popularized the stones, obtaining many of them from a farmer named Basilio Uschuya. Uschuya, after claiming them to be real ancient artifacts, admitted to creating the carvings he had sold and said he produced a patina by baking the stone in cow dung.
>>76726339
We even have proof.
>>76731449
Oh look its one of these people again.
If I believe in Jesus and don't believe in creationism then, define me. So I can't be Christian according to you but I'm not Atheist clearly.
Define me nigger.
>>76724493
Only protestant heretics believe that.
>>76735572
How can you be a Christian yet deny that God made us? It's in the very first page of the bible
>>76735572
I don't understand why people would think Christianity and science are ever at odds. NOWHERE in the bible is it ever stated "God made the world 2000 years ago, and he did it all at once."
>>76735779
Same way people can be christian and not think the world has four corners with a visible cutoff at the edge.
>>76735460
>(((Darquea)))
>>76735914
Genesis specifies a matter of days. What I don't get is that no one thinks that their god would lie to them knowimg they couldn't comprehend the idea of evolution at the time or all in one sitting.
>>76734387
No wonder they don't believe what you're saying, when all you have is "Ur wrong"
mammals did
>>76734275
>reverse imagesearch
>location is from the 12th century
>somehow no records from the 12th century about giant reptile creatures roaming the planet
>no fossil records
Yeah....
>>76737526
Absolutely. And maybe even Dravidians did too. But humans? No.
>>76737775
>(((google)))
>>76737775
>about giant reptile creatures roaming the planet
dragons?
>>76738064
True, but those are described in drastically different detail than a stegosaurus with an oddly shaped head.
>>76728718
This is /pol/itically incorrect, not /r/eligious fuckwit conspiricy theories
>>76737829
Aryan subhuman detected
>>76738241
to be fair, dragons through out the world have been described radically different
there was also shit like this cockatrice, basilisks, and feathered serpents in ancient cultures that look like feathered dinosaurs. But its all conjecture and their is no hard evidence that non avian dinosaurs survived the cretaceous extinction.
still interesting though
>>76738244
>not /r/eligious fuckwit conspiricy theories
I know you don't walk the righteous path, I know this; but I'm gonna get you saved today, 'cause it's Friday; you ain't got no petrol... and you ain't got shit to do.
>>76737162
I don't believe in the "gods" of Genesis. Yes, that's right, gods. El is the singular form, Elohim is the plural form, which is what is used in the bible. Or... I mean, they probably are real, but they aren't the one true God. They were actually quite petty, the more you read about them.
>>76739301
I'm so glad someone knows this. It's part of what drove me to paganism. The bible acknowledges multiple gods all the way up to Moses and then suddenly there is only one.
>>76739467
>It's part of what drove me to paganism
>>76724493
Flawed logic. Dinosaurs never existed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KXzgeq1BuA
>>76739467
What? So you know what the Elohim are and you still worship them?
>>76731449
Protestant detected
>>76730620
That's Catholicism which is hardly even a category of Christianity anymore.
>>76739467
>Pagans
>>76739710
I know who all of you are, and I keep coming here.
>>76727214
the fuck you on about leaf? Paleontologist are full as much shit as hillary clinton. THEY. DON'T. KNOW. ANYTHING. THEY. CLAIM. TO. KNOW.
>dino=giants
>>76739884
Hey, I'm not trying to put you down or anything, just genuinely curious. Also, is there one in particular that you like? I do appreciate Enki. If the stories are true, he at least saved our species from the flood.
>>76731449
Show me in the bible where dino and human co-existed. Show me anything about dino in the bible. Protip - you can't. Paleontologist are confusing "giants" "men of old, men of renown" for dinos.
>>76731735
You mean to tell me, modern english is different from ancient paleohebrew? wewlad kys. Your "points" prove one thing....you have no reading comprehension.
>>76740186
John 41- The leviathan
>>76740092
Baal and Asteroth were pretty great. Pretty fond of The Morrigan trinity from the Celts as well.
I don't really worship them, though. You're better off just making sure not to piss them off than you are getting close to them and then fucking something up.
>>76740327
Translation errors are a sign of adulterated content. The Quran and Torah manage to survive without all of these frequent modifications.
>>76734762
No. it's much older faggot.
>>76740186
>Paleontologist are confusing "giants" "men of old, men of renown" for dinos.
stop, just stop
>>76740021
You seem upset
Everyone knows the last dinosaurs evolved into dragons as a defence mechanism before they went extinct completely.
>>76740632
Baal is just a title, my friend, like 'King." The Elohim to whom it refers (when the earliest texts where written) where Enlil, who voted for our destruction, and his son Marduk, who fought with Enki's son for the title. As for Asteroth, she has quite a reputation, and even makes an appearance (under the name "Inanna," or something like that) in the epic of GIlgamesh. I won't ruin the surprise for you. Anyways, I'm pretty sure they are just using us as miners of precious metals, and when our population gets too big, it'll be curtains for all but their favorites. If the stories are true.
>>76728032
Evolution isn't constant. These animals just didn't experience any evolutionary pressure.
>>76728032
...evolution isnt happening at all times you fucking retard. Evolution is a theory related to survival of the fittest. Mutations that help the species survive get carried on through genes and the ones without said mutations are at a disadvantage. Evolution is literally random mutations due to anything from the environment to the food they eat to even cancer. It is random and the good mutations win and the bad ones die off. Just because reptiles haven't changed in millions of years doesn't mean they haven't evolved or they have evolved you dumbass.
Cosnider yourself enlightened
>>76728277
What the fuck do you mean? Show me prehistoric art with dinosaurs in it.
>>76729061
>>76729288
>leaf and strayans shitposting together
i just want to eat a a huge dinosaur steak.
carve up a brontosaurus.
>>76741634
Lmao, you neo-fag.
>>76741396
Haven't sharks and alligators stayed basically the same for millions of years because they are such top tier bad motherfuckers?
>>76741498
This
>>76741211
>Anyways, I'm pretty sure they are just using us as miners of precious metals, and when our population gets too big, it'll be curtains for all but their favorites. If the stories are true.
Which stories?
>>76738655
Once knights figured out that killing those things impressed damsels, they didn't stand a chance.
>>76741634
>Neo-pets still exists
good feel t b h
>>76742112
Your shoyru is starving
>>76741897
Enuma Elish, old testament, Epic of Gilgamesh
>>76741871
No way they used to fight dinosaurs
But seriously though that's what I'm saying. Who's to say they've evolved mentally or their hunting patterns or some shit have changed?
>>76724493
Birds are literally dinosaurs.
People saying they aren't fully fledged dinosaurs are comparable to libtards spouting misinformation about their shitty issues. They're defined in a way that they're dinosaurs and we found this out after we named Dinosauria, but they are just as much dinosaurs as all the extinct ones.
>>76741897
And many other snippets of tablets translated by the late, great Zechariah Sitchin.
>>76742149
starving for the chicken nugger
>>76724493
Of course they did. The bible specifically mentions leviathans :^)
>>76730893
>This is wrong
Amazing rebuttal
