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Friday, June 3, 2016
Liturgical Year C, Cycle II
First Friday
Today's Mass
Sacred Heart of Jesus - Solemnity
Readings for Mass
First Reading: Ezekiel 34:11-16
Responsorial Psalm: Psalms 23:1-3, 3-4, 5, 6
Second Reading: Romans 5:5-11
Gospel: Luke 15:3-7
Today's Rosary: The Sorrowful Mysteries
>Good Scenes to watch
Jesus Anime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8d-uB0vaoQo
Jesus of Nazareth Sermon on the Mount:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDCbJ4vnMNg
Jesus chases Jews out of the Temple
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEtBs6j7QgU
Jesus gives sight to the Blind....and takes sight from those who can see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY7vamVg99E
Roman Centurion has more faith than anyone in Israel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNLSBjYDPko
Ben Hur scenes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVlf7OiiTJE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbt2UUthWg0
Thanks for the scripture readings Anon, i'll check them out before bed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpzdB0G3TJU
>>76053969
>>76053643 #
(For the new thread)
Thank you for affirming my point that Septuagint (the text you used to say the Apocrapha is scripture) wasn't used by Jesus.
>you're telling me the kjv is more valid than the Greek version
>the Greek version
>the
Which one?
>YOU ARE LITERALLY BELIEVING THE WORDS OF PHARISEES OVER THE WORDS OF CHRISTIANS
First off, what early Christian affirmed the Apocrapha? Second off, no I'm not. How many times do I have to tell you that I only trust the books and authors which were affirmed by Jesus? Don't care about what Christians believed or what Pharisees believed. I care about what God believed.
>>76054335
>JW on /pol/
>>76053969
http://www.easterbrooks.com/personal/calendar/index.php
Here is the source for the liturgical calandar so you can update tomorrow.
>>76054604
Thanks Anon!
>>76054480
>>76054480
PRESENT!!
is masturbation a sin?
>>76054335
>>76054927
Let's keep this debate rolling.
>>76054918
Lust is a sin.
>>76054918
If you let Christ into your heart and accept Him as your lord and savior, literally no action you perform in life will prevent you from entering the Kingdom of Heaven.
>>76054811
Welcome back Witnessguy
>>76055466
Hey, anon. Good to see you. Before we start church pick a shirt and tie. EVERYONE PICK A SHIRT AND TIE!!
>>76055033
Picking up where we left off
>>76055365
I'm not really up on my Old Testament. Did other humans survive the great flood or did Noah's family repopulate the earth via inbreeding?
>>76053969
how are you this insecure about your own religion? seriously how many times did you spam this shit?
What does /pol/ think about this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTJMRDtt0E0
>>76056030
Noah brought his entire family. He had three children, who also had wives and their own children.
Cousins and Distant Cousins getting married has only been taboo recently.
>>76055510
No, one verse is not enough. Remember, that God GLORIFIED himself in his own book 7,000 times. That must always be acknowledged for the reader to understand how important God's name is to be known. Who else on earth ever authored their own auto-biography with their own name being repeated that much? Nobody, what does that prove? How important he is and how important it is for it. Not some measly word to just be known now and then.
Remember Jesus model prayer:
>(Matthew 6:9) “YOU must pray, then, this way: “‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified.
Now Jesus acknowledgement of that name:
>(John 17:26) And I have made your name known to them and will make it known, in order that the love with which you loved me may be in them and I in union with them.”
>(John 17:6) “I have made your name manifest to the men you gave me out of the world. They were yours, and you gave them to me, and they have observed your word.
>(Psalm 22:22) I will declare your name to my brothers; In the middle of the congregation I shall praise you.
>(Hebrews 2:12) as he says: “I will declare your name to my brothers; in the middle of [the] congregation I will praise you with song.”
Tell Jesus how one verse is enough for his father's name.
>>76055942
>>76055365
In our Károli Bible, his name is mentioned 8 times.
>>76056030
The story is an allegory, and shouldn't be taken literally. The number of species known to exist on earth (and the vast geographic distances between their natural habitats) buggers suspense of disbelief.
>>76056120
Smells like bullshit. Obongo will leave office in January and all will be right with the world.
>>76054604
I hate maldraw.
>>76054918
Only in excess and only if you don't have a committed partner, moderation is a tricky thing and essentially different for everyone. I've found during my depressive periods a moderate amount to masturbate is once a week but I require about 4 times a week otherwise.
Christianity is about moderation, finding your own balance and contemporary Christianity should be about finding forgiveness directly from your personal relationship with God.
>>76055141
No.
>>76056030
No.
Noah's ark is a corruption of the fact that water levels were once much lower.
>>76056069
Where else do young Christians converse anonymously? The question is why are you so insecure you have to announce your presence in a thread you're not welcome?
>>76056446
Reminder that the bible was written by many people with many points of views and many intentions over a very long period.
Scriptural infallibility might be something we should drop.
>>76056845
>a sin is not a sin if you don't do it too often
top heresy
>>76056845
What denomination are you?
>>76056988
It's not even sin if done in balance, this is where Christianity overlaps the middle path of Buddhism. Repression is rarely spoken against in Christianity, in fact it's praised, but perhaps among contemporary Christians combating an image of stuck up, judgmental, preachy evangelists could be beneficial.
>heresy
We require reform that doesn't come from the Vatican, in fact we require a completely anti authoritarian movement, we're losing followers faster than scientology gains rich people pretending not to tax evade.
Masturbation: how is this or this subject not probably one of the most serious problems with Christianity's status?
Not in the Bible or anywhere else can really be found anything against it. For lust there is the great commandment. And most if not none other important texts or practical life things can be used against it. Sooner: clearly mean that it can't be opposed as it is now.
>>76057385
Hey, I'm >>76057388 switching back and forth from my mobile to WiFi network.
I really don't know.
My stance on Jesus's divinity is questionable, but I really like Trinitarianism. Catholic, at best, maybe Cathar without the obvious Satanism at worst? People often critique that I've invited too much eastern philosophy into my beliefs.
>>76057388
>It's not even sin if done in balance
>Repression is rarely spoken against in Christianity
>we require a completely anti authoritarian movement
I think I just puked in my mouth
>>76057522
It's not that hard to figure out.
It's extremely hard to jerk it without lust.
>>76057560
oh wait I had read the second sentence wrong.
A sin is a sin, moderation or not. Masturbation is a sin so you sin everytime you are doing it
>>76057522
if you grow up healthy you should have a girlfriend/wife at that age, and if you have one and still fap you are a fucked up
>>76057534
If you like Catholicism, I can answer a lot of questions, so can Italian bro
>>76056988
Masturbation isn't a sin. Also in Romanism pollution is a sin.
>>76057694
>>76057534
You guys are so gay.
Especially the Ausfag
>>76057774
>Masturbation isn't a sin
Masturbation is a product of lust. Lust is a sin, heretic
>>76057674
if you are not married it is a sin to fuck
>>76057561
The jarking of off is really a silly part of the whole subject.
>>76057560
>puked in mouth
Why? Because of ''ímmoral'''?
>>76056446
But are there proofs that the original Bible was written that way? I've heard this claim already, but they showed no evidence.
>>76057560
Your arguments are so compelling.
>>76057561
Lust, like gluttony, is about excess. Unless you like crystallization in your prostate leading to infertility (which I'd argue is a greater sin than masturbating), you're going to need to start masturbating at 24 at the latest.
Personally I didn't masturbate until 24, I'm a little messed up sexually for it.
>>76057674
>you should have a girlfriend/wife at that age
Ignorant of the troubles facing many young men, plenty of us aren't capable of having a girlfriend because being unable to buy your own clothes or able to afford a car is entirely not sexy.
Please remember this is the post-sexual revolution.
>>76057694
Italian bro shits me, I'm that Australian he calls a heretic every fucking theologically related thread. I'd rather ask advice from the Hindus, besides asking for my tits, they've been nothing but polite.
>>76057815
You're maldraw, aren't you? Antisemitism is not very appealing or persuasive.
>>76057898
In a world where divorce is granted for female sexual boredom, marriage is meaningless. I'd argue any committed relationship that's expected to last at least a few years counts.
Women are too unreliable, they reject virtuous men simply for being boring too easily. You need red eyes to be an interesting, virtuous man.
>>76057982
I agree, honestly I don't think it's something worth lingering on at all.
The basic answer is that lust is a sin.
Whenever I walk down the street and see a hot girl, I usually will look at her lustfully and thats obviously a sinful thing to do.
>>76058004
>marriage is meaningless
>any committed relationship that's expected to last at least a few years counts.
These are the monsters that protestantism creates
>>76057982
because of justification of sin
>>76057829
>>76057898
ma smettila di fare il santarellino, porco il tuo dio inchiodato a sangue
dio merda ci scommetto il cazzo che ti sfiammi il barbagallo pure tu, e come se non ci fosse un domani per giunta
>>76058004
>Lust, like gluttony, is about excess. Unless you like crystallization in your prostate leading to infertility (which I'd argue is a greater sin than masturbating), you're going to need to start masturbating at 24 at the latest.
Well, in your case you were maybe not masturbating because you were being told not to.
That's a sort of mental emasculation if you live in an environment like that. It's not like I'm going to ever stop getting boners from looking at women.
But the technicality is that if you even look at a woman lustfully, it is a sin, and that is all there is to it.
>>76058004
>Lust, like gluttony, is about excess. Unless you like crystallization in your prostate leading to infertility
>I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKING IDEA HOW THE HUMAN BODY WORKS BUT I MUST SHARE MY USELESS, COMPLETELY IGNORANT OPINION WITH THE WORLD
>>76058204
>ci scommetto il cazzo che ti sfiammi il barbagallo pure tu
In passato lo facevo, ad una media di 2 volte al giorno, fino a quando non mi sono riavvicinato alla fede. Ora non mi masturbo mai, zero, nisba, nulla.
Ci avevo già provato in passato a smettere, ma solo pregando il rosario, pregando tanto ogni giorno, leggendo la Bibbia e soprattutto meditando su Dio ho superato questo grave vizio peccaminoso.
Se ci si abbandona alla grazia di Dio, tutto è possibile.
Ci sono ancora tante pecche alle quali cerco di rimediare, prima tra tutte la pigrizia. Ma faccio progressi, e con la misericordia di Dio ho fede di riuscire a superare anche questo scoglio
>>76058004
I mean anyone about discussing this
>Lust, like gluttony, is about excess
Lust is not synonymous with excess
>Personally I didn't masturbate until 24, I'm a little messed up sexually for it.
This is heard more often. Taken from where it was never an issue on itself or immorality: this has to do with habits. And just what most people in a surrounding say. Not with the truth.
>>76058390
vale la pena vivere secondo le regole e i valori morali di altre persone?
>>76057989
>>76057989
Yes, the dead sea scrolls. Before the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls, the oldest manuscripts of the Hebrew Scriptures were from about the ninth and tenth centuries C.E. Could these manuscripts truly be relied upon as faithful transmissions of God’s Word, since the writing of the Hebrew Scriptures was completed well over one thousand years earlier? The scrolls provide irrefutable proof that the transmission of the biblical text through a period of more than one thousand years by the hands of Jewish copyists has been extremely faithful and careful.
To date, among over 200 Biblical manuscripts found at Qumran, portions have been identified of every book of the Hebrew Scriptures except the book of Esther. Unlike the Isaiah Scroll, most are represented only by fragments, containing less than one tenth of any given book. The Bible books that were most popular at Qumran were Psalms (36 copies), Deuteronomy (29 copies), and Isaiah (21 copies). These are also the books most frequently quoted in the Christian Greek Scriptures.
>>76056988
Lutheran here.
Masturbate plenty. Had premarital sex (with one woman I thought I would marry). Since only my wife.
Here's the deal.
The bible says nothing about premarital sex or masturbation. In the New Testament, Jesus says, abstain from sexual immorality. This sounds open to interpretation, but the Old Testament clearly spells out what sexual immorality is: sex between two men, a man and an animal, etc. etc. nowhere is jacking it or pre marital mentioned.
Be honest with yourself now. There is a difference between thinking about your wife or gf while touching yourself in the shower, or looking at mild porn, versus webcamming while you hilt a dragon dildo with traps on screen. One is healthy and clears your mind and removes temptation (there is a difference between properly removing temptation and giving in to it).
Responses will be slow, because I'm making dinner (pasta) for my family like a good Catholic boy.
>>76058199
Sooner an anti authoritarian bro, teach your child to be religious instead of relying on an old man that believes priesthood justifies his homosexuality.
Last abhorrence
>implying chaste homosexuality requires justification
>>76058219
I'm amused at people believing I was told not to masturbate, in fact I'm the most religious of my family and went to a Catholic school more concerned with "tolerance" and "diversity" than virtue.
Actually I've been channing since 14. I blame being inundated with porn.
>>76058420
Do you have a point? Can you elaborate? Or are you just being a Dutchman with 420 in his numbers?
>>76058489
>altre persone
Non sono valori di altre persone, sono i valori per i quali Dio ci ha creati.
Siamo in uno stato di corruzione e peccato dovuta alla nostra caduta dal paradiso terrestre, che coincide con il peccato originale.
peccare = disobbidire Dio
Smettere di peccare significa finalmente realizzare la vita a cui eravamo da sempre stati destinati. Anche tu, da un punto di vista puramente logico, ti renderai conto che una società in cui le persone si comportano come la morale cristiana impone, è una società giusta e prospera.
Chiediti questo. Tu non vuoi smettere di masturbarti perché ti fa stare bene. Non credo che questa sia una prigione? Non credi che le tue scelte debbano essere basate sulla virtù e non sull'impulso animale? Se scegli l'impulso animale invece della virtù, puoi davvero ritenerti un uomo libero e non uno schiavo?
Don't worry OP, I believe you. The predictions for Jesus's return have been wrong for the past 2000 years, but I have a good feeling about *this* year!
>>76058541
>I'm amused at people believing I was told not to masturbate, in fact I'm the most religious of my family and went to a Catholic school more concerned with "tolerance" and "diversity" than virtue.
Well, that's good. I'm glad you didn't live in an oppressive family. I just ask because there are a lot of people who grew up Catholics who weren't actually celibate, they grew up enuchs because they were mentally castrated.
>Actually I've been channing since 14, I blame porn
I feel you.
Italianbro is a bit triggered by your heresy because some of what you're saying is actually a bit heretical.
>Lust isn't a sin if it's not done in excess
>Gluttony isn't a sin if it's not done in excess
Sins are not the result of excess, that would be to change their definitions.
I know where your head is, but the way you're wording it makes it sound heretical.
>>76058531
meh, it is pretty obvious I won't be able to convince you. You are too far gone in your self-assolution. Jesus will tell you how wrong you are in the afterlife, no biggie
>>76058817
*self-absolution
>>76058719
Well shit.
>>76058660
>ti renderai conto che una società in cui le persone si comportano come la morale cristiana impone, è una società giusta e prospera.
no, sono un nichilista
>Tu non vuoi smettere di masturbarti perché ti fa stare bene. Non credo che questa sia una prigione? Non credi che le tue scelte debbano essere basate sulla virtù e non sull'impulso animale? Se scegli l'impulso animale invece della virtù, puoi davvero ritenerti un uomo libero e non uno schiavo?
non serve seguire una religione di mentecatti per smettere di masturbarsi
sei un debole, un povero idiota che ha bisogno di un contentino spirituale per giustificare le proprie azioni e non è in grado di rimboccarsi le maniche e plasmare il mondo a sua immagine e somiglianza
il tuo dio è morto, prima o poi lo capirai :^)
>>76055038
Thought crime
Nice
>>76058940
It's not like you're gonna go to hell for getting a hard-on bongbro
>>76058880
>no, sono un nichilista
anch'io lo ero quando avevo 13 anni
>non serve seguire una religione di mentecatti per smettere di masturbarsi
Non ho detto che è una condizione necessaria. Ho solo detto che mi ha dato la forza necessaria di farlo
>sei un debole
Lo siamo tutti, anon. Alcuni lo capiscono, atri preferiscono distogliere lo sguardo in favore dei propri desideri terreni. Polvere eravamo, e polvere torneremo.
>plasmare il mondo a sua immagine e somiglianza
Hai notato come hai usato le stesse parole della Genesi per esprimere questo concetto? Queste parole ti sono state ispirate dal male, proprio in virtù del desiderio di rovesciare la Parola divina. Il mondo ha bisogno che lo plasmiamo secondo i valori supremi dell'Altissimo, non secondo i valori di un NEET che se la tira perché ha letto uno spezzone di un filosofo tedesco tra una cazzeggiata e l'altra tra i banchi di scuola.
>il tuo dio è morto
Ti consiglio di informarti sul Cattolicesimo, su tutti i suoi miracoli, che sono tanti ed innegabili.
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracolo_del_sole
>>76058531
>the Old Testament clearly spells out what sexual immorality is
Before, in another thread I said that it would be interesting to see how we could actually change the whole of Christianity for the better.
ok, this:
>the Old Testament clearly spells out what sexual immorality is
I don't see how it is possible that how the subject of sexuality is treated now ever became this a forbidden thing in all sorts of ways.*
I mean: Jesus says in the New Testament that he came to fulfill the law. He did, which can be seen by Him stating that all commandments should be interpreted to achieve the contents of the great commandment of matthew 22.
*Actually, I could think of reasons. But this would be such bad and ineffective things, as reasons to oppose sexuality that I don't dare to just mention them here and now.
The bible is evil, on par with Islam.
"Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)"
>>76059189
>rispondi al mio post frase dopo frase
>ad hominem, ad novitatem, strawman
>lol neet e banchi di scuola xdddd
>implicando implicazioni
Come un orologio.
>>76059479
>fallacie logiche LMAO XDDD
quanti anni hai? domanda seria
"They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)"
>>76059476
>Not knowing that the Jews were the most rebellious people ever known
>Not knowing that verse is referring to the punishment the Jews received in Israel when they were defiant against Gods commandments
>>76059476
>Deuteronomy
That's the Israelite Law, Gentile Christians don't follow it. Show me a verse like that from the New Testament, please.
>>76059093
Why not? If it's a sin
And even if it is not a sin worthy of hell it is still criminalization of thought. Unconscious thought at that
>>76059533
>un cristiano che adora le fallacie logiche e non sa rispondere senza usarle
Che carino che sei, magari quando morirai inchioderemo il tuo corpo su una tavola di legno, così che i matti che ti seguono potranno chiamarsi tuoi discepoli.
>>76058541
>>76058420
>Do you have a point? Can you elaborate? Or are you just being a Dutchman with 420 in his numbers?
I didn't see your reply before I posted this:>>76059293
It is the elaboration unless you meant something specific?
>>76059697
I think it's funny that you compare God to the NSA, and not for the reasons you think.
>>76059752
non sono io che le adoro, sei tu che le adori perché ti escoludono dall'esprimere qualunque tipo di concetto o dal dover controbattere ad un argomento.
è un total cop-out frutto di vigliaccheria e presunzione
>Che carino che sei, magari quando morirai inchioderemo il tuo corpo su una tavola di legno, così che i matti che ti seguono potranno chiamarsi tuoi discepoli.
Mi addolora leggere cose del genere, onestamente, non per me, ma per la tua anima. Cmq non hai risposto alla mia domanda, quanti anni hai?
>>76059948
Con le fallacie logiche smonti i discorsi come il tuo, poiché non sono argomenti, ma misere presunzioni intellettuali campate sul nulla.
Non puoi chiamare vigliacco un uomo che ti accusa di star barando, è una menzogna, e mentire è un peccato. :^)
Fai il bravo ragazzo e vatti a confessare, eh?
>>76060088
>Con le fallacie logiche smonti i discorsi come il tuo
con le fallacie non smonti nulla, eviti solamente la discussione. Il 99% delle volte non c'è alcuna fallacia e quindi ci si perde nel discutere se ogni piccola affermazione è una fallacia o no. Inoltre vi sono così tante fallacie che è ipoteticamente possibile considerare quasi ogni qualsivoglia affermazione in quanto tale. Ad ogni modo non cambia che le hai usate come un cop-out e null'altro.
Aggiungo che esiste la fallacia della fallacia. Cioè è una fallacia considerare un argomento incorretto solo perché viene espresso per mezzo di una fallacia.
>Fai il bravo ragazzo e vatti a confessare, eh?
Ovvio. Quanti anni hai, anon? Se non mi rispondi devo dedurre che hai meno di 18 anni.
>>76058805
>Italianbro is a bit triggered by your heresy because some of what you're saying is actually a bit heretical.
I call it revolutionary.
I'm trying to reshape religion into something both believable and pragmatic. Also, stop posting the maldraw shit, it's in the name: malicious drawer
>I know where your head is, but the way you're wording it makes it sound heretical.
How would you word it? Introducing Buddhist concepts is going to steer people away from fashionable, half baked, spiritual materialistic Buddhism towards Christianity. That's a good thing despite being "heretical."
You know what else was heretical? Abandoning circumcision.
>>76058817
This is the afterlife and Jesus is telling you otherwise via the mouths of all true believers.
Jesus spoke of heaven on earth, not heaven in an ethereal unreachable plain. He spoke about raising you up in the time of the kingdom of heaven, or rather when Christian culture reigns.
Love directing heresy at the Italians.
>>76059755
I just didn't understand your post at all. What point were you making?
>>76059948
>>76060088
>>76060258
Is there a reason you're not posting in English?
>>76059293
So how doesn't the thing against sexuality stand very weak. Compared to the enormous issue that has been made of it?
>>76060369
you literally know nothing about what you are talking about. I have no interest in a discussion with such a misguided, ignorant, self-righteous and delusional individual
>>76058526
Is there any site where they can be actually read?
I have to admit I am so happy to see a christian general here daily
butthurt atheists, I'm sorry you have to see all this but you should know the shills are doing divide and conquer shit. just try and ignore, real christians love you
>>76060258
>fallacia della fallacia
Ora esiste anche la fallacia della fallacia della fallacia. :^)
Puoi fare tutta la ginnastica mentale che vuoi, hai evitato le mie affermazioni iniziali argomentando con stupide platitudini religiose e attaccandomi direttamente, come fanno tutti i bravi cristiani su internet.
Sei uno dei tanti paradossi umani che ci sono in giro, ti dipingi cristiano ma non ne sei neanche un po'.
Che tristezza, prima o poi capirai anche tu che dio è morto, e c'è solo il nulla e ciò che viene oltre.
>>76058817
>>76059293
Hi,
>>76058531
here on my comp. Phone shitted my post up.
I know what I said sounds like a bunch of rationalization, and trust me I agonized over it for months to make sure it wasn't just that.
You say that masturbation is a sin of lust. I disagree on this basis. If I am hungry I may be tempted to eat a large meal of junk food. Call that a sin of gluttony. If I instead eat a healthy meal, that is good for me, and removes the temptation because I am no longer hungry. People that don't masturbate may be starving themselves of mental and physical health benefits. Women have hysterics, men have prostate issues, and more.
You're right, Jesus fulfills the law. But that doesn't mean you can't still use it as a guideline. Don't steal, don't murder, and don't go around having sex with a goat, or raping random women because you are so repressed that you are having a sexual emergency.
I am not saying that all forms of sexual self pleasure are not sinful. But I am saying that there is a line between good and healthy sexuality that God means for us to enjoy, and sexual immorality that should be avoided - and "missionary only with wife for procreation" is not the only thing on the "not a sin" side of that line.
>>76060369
>I call it revolutionary
>I'm trying to reshape religion into something both believable and pragmatic
Pic related is you.
Please don't. We have enough shitheads trying to "modernize" the Church into something more "pragmatic"
>How would you word it? Introducing Buddhist concepts is going to steer people away from fashionable, half baked, spiritual materialistic Buddhism towards Christianity. That's a good thing despite being "heretical."
We're not Hindus.
It is not your job to reshape anything. It is your job to seek God and submit to him.
>>76060369
>Is there a reason you're not posting in English?
He's mad because i'm poking holes in his religion by using the most simple and retarded arguments.
Heh, christians.
>>76060459
Your arguments are impressive, teacher, please this is so enlightening.
>>76060609
Yes, self responsibility and responsibility for your family is part of it. Your authoritarianism might appeal to nihilistic people searching for an in group, but it's ultimately harmful and dissuasive to all free thinkers.
The free thinkers are the people that really need convincing.
You'll find my ideas are quite appealing to agnostics sitting on the edge.
>>76060646
It's not hard to find holes in an authorian person's beliefs, whether it's Christianity, Nazism or fascist leftism.
>>76060369
>>76058004
I mean anyone about discussing this
>Lust, like gluttony, is about excess
Lust is not synonymous with excess
----------------------------------Everything above this line is completely this: >>76059293
This below here was more about throwing out this misleading feeling of guilt. Also readable in some other threads by people. This negative emotion happens because of actual false indoctrination. Something of a lot of generations and years.
>Personally I didn't masturbate until 24, I'm a little messed up sexually for it.
This is heard more often. Taken from where it was never an issue on itself or immorality: this has to do with habits. And just what most people in a surrounding say. Not with the truth.
>>76060574
>Ora esiste anche la fallacia della fallacia della fallacia. :^)
ginnastica mentale
>Puoi fare tutta la ginnastica mentale che vuoi
proiezione
>hai evitato le mie affermazioni iniziali argomentando con stupide platitudini religiose e attaccandomi direttamente
strawman
>come fanno tutti i bravi cristiani su internet.
ad-hominem, generalizzazione
>Sei uno dei tanti paradossi umani che ci sono in giro
insulto gratuito
>ti dipingi cristiano ma non ne sei neanche un po'.
fallacia, ma chi ti conosce
>Che tristezza,
opinione personale utilizzata come se fose verità rivelata. In sostanza: not an argument
>prima o poi capirai anche tu che dio è morto, e c'è solo il nulla e ciò che viene oltre.
fallacia, affermazioni fatta senza prove a suo sostegno
Ma tu non eri uno con un super cervello che evitava le fallacie?
Non mi rispondi ancora, quindi devo averci preso giusto. Ci sono già le vacanze estive alle scuole medie? Questo sito è vietato ai minori di 18 anni
>>76060646
>being this delusional
you are literally 16-year-old edgy fedora repeating over and over that god is dead and you are a nihilist, and when I ask you to provide arguments you say that everything I say is a fallacy.
>>76060860
>Ma tu non eri uno con un super cervello che evitava le fallacie?
Non l'ho mai detto, sono qui solo per farti perdere tempo.
E mi riesce bene.
>>76060472
>http://www.deadseascrolls.org.il/home
>>76060961
>hurr durr I was only pretending
>>76060918
>you are literally 16-year-old edgy fedora repeating over and over that god is dead and you are a nihilist, and when I ask you to provide arguments you say that everything I say is a fallacy.
No.
You backed up your arguments with fallacies, and now you're doing exactly what you said you loathe to do, arguing about semantics and fallacies themselves.
You're not as holy as you pretend to be, you are just a religion nut like a thousand more.
And you got baited hard, i see.
Lets see how far all of this will bring us, shall we?
God sent himself down in human form just do die and some how that forgives people for things that he already knew you were going to do in the first place? How does that make any sense?
>>76061163
I don't know, you tell me.
Christians are literally the laughing stock of this world.
>>76060841
No, you do not appeal to unbelievers of any kind through compromising your own principles and beliefs, which is what you would have me do.
That's already what the Vatican leadership is trying to do with the modernization of the church, they are appealing to the egalitarian free-thinkers by trying to be more "accepting and tolerant"
You have to stay true to your traditions, to your principles, and to the scriptures themselves.
Your philosophy suggests picking and choosing from scripture and ignoring what you don't like.
It doesn't matter if certain groups like it more or not. What matters is what is actually true.
>>76061151
>You're not as holy as you pretend to be
everybody is a sinner, me included
>you are just a religion nut like a thousand more.
k
>And you got baited hard, i see.
k
>Lets see how far all of this will bring us, shall we?
k
https://my.mixtape.moe/yerinm.webm
>>76061217
>Christians are literally the laughing stock of this world.
This is plausible in a way.
The bad thing is, that it is mainly not because of untrue criticism, but true criticism. As Christians saying that it is this honorable criticism and a martyrdom is an enormous mistake. And not to care. Or in an incorrect way.
>>76061365
Smettila di postare quella webm, sei sempre patetico e fai cringeare duro tutti quelli che non sono cialtroni ignoranti ossessionati dalla religione come te.
>>76060843
Oh, you're strawmanning all virtue preaching as completely against sexuality in any form besides missionary after marriage.
Yeah, I have as much patience for you as hank green. Keep it up, you're not convincing anyone.
>>76061314
If I believe it, I haven't comprised shit.
I simply understand that a rational, high intelligence believer is more lkekly to appeal to other rational, high intelligence agnostics (atheists are impossible).
Lastly, scriptural fallibility does not mean scriptural incorrectness, it means it requires better historicity and better understanding of the author(s).
>>76061163
Jesus invoked the The Law of Redemption.
I'll show you how it works.
The Law of Redemption means that a person who is innocent of another persons crimes, can take the punishment for the crimes on the condition that he is willing to do so.
Let's say you're a Murderer and you're brought before the Judge. The Judge doesn't have anything against you personally, but he has to sentence you to death because that is the law. He can't just let you get away with murder. He's not going to compromise the law of the land.
So you are going to die.
But....someone like me could come along and say "I invoke the law of redemption, I will take the punishment for his crime" and by the laws of God, this is acceptable.
Jesus did this, and since he was blameless for the crimes of everyone in the world, he was able to take the punishment for the crimes of the entire world and everyone on it, and everyone who ever will be on it.
As a reptilian in the NWO, what can Christianity do to help enrich my life?
>>76061525
>God probably thinks the way I do, because I'm rational.
This is just narcissism and arrogance. Go read Ecclesiastes and study the philosophical implications of that for a while.
>>76061576
Hello Queen Elizabeth.
>>76061686
Sorry old horse, you're barking up the wrong tree - I'm Charles.
>>76061670
Cos'è, ti arrendi già?
Magari sei uno di quelli che chiamerebbero un'altra crociata contro i musulmani, perché sono "eretici", quando alla fin fine l'unico eretico sei tu e tutti i tuoi confratelli cristiani.
>>76061735
I like you. Stick around and ask questions.
>>76061764
k
>>76061217
Saying this >>76059293
I could mean you too. I mean Christianity and churches are just our common spiritual house.
I could say something about atheist now too, apart from this above here. But I don't know. Anyway it is not bad or anything.
>>76061764
Wow, that's pretty edgy.
>>76061554
But he died for his own crimes at the hands of the romans. Not for other peoples.
>>76061887
>Hands of the Romans
Juden pls.
>>76061791
I worry my questions would be extraordinarily naïve. I've simply never really thought about matters spiritual in any kind of depth.
>>76061932
The point was that he was executed for crimes he directly committed, not for other peoples crimes.
>>76061966
Your questions wouldn't be naive at all.
Just be genuine.
>>76061999
What were his crimes?
>>76061816
Oh andiamo, sai bene che ho ragione, puoi continuare a postare le tue counter-images quanto vuoi, ciò non cambierà il significato di ciò che dico. :^)
>>76062078
k
>>76061525
>>>76060843
>Oh, you're strawmanning all virtue preaching as completely against sexuality in any form besides missionary after marriage.
>Yeah, I have as much patience for you as hank green. Keep it up, you're not convincing anyone.
Strawmanning? No idea what that is.
I think your remark has some sort of bad intention. Anyway: where or how is virtue preaching NOT
>completely against sexuality in any form besides missionary after marriage.
Or related and in any denomination.
>>76062160
Se solo potessi mostrare agli uomini l'ignoranza che si cela dietro al loro bias di conferma, forse magari non ci sarebbero le religioni.
>>76062259
You know that Nietzsche wasn't actually a Nihilist, right?
>>76062066
I'll give it a go. Brace yourself!
The Bible makes some incredible claims that seem impossible to verify or reproduce, yet some people believe them to be true. I don't understand why. Some people talk of having religious experiences that caused them to begin believing, but I've never had one of those, and I guess most other people haven't either. So what gives all the other Christians their faith?
At college I had some great friends who happened to be strong Christians, and one time they invited me to go to some event with them, and part of it involved a vicar talking about Jesus, and handing out copies of one of the Gospels. I took it home and read it, but I couldn't seem to experience it as anything other than a nice story.
>>76062066
sedition against the Roman Empire
>>76062298
That's the whole point.
I'm not expecting >>76062386 to understand anything i said other than taking everything to a personal level out of pride, and replying with logic fallacies out of sheer hatred for whatever implications he probably made up in his mind about me.
It really amuses me to stir these guillable idiots up, for they are so engulfed in their "holy scriptures" to the point of completely ignoring everything that isn't written in their supposely holy books.
The death of God was a tragedy, but few allow themselves to understand it, and others like him just pretend to find meaning in this world by going back into the oppressive, bigoted, absolutely corrupted moralistic and ignorant religion that once was Christianity when god didn't die\didn't kill himself\didn't get killed.
I say, let them have their moment of glory, let them feel bliss and pleasure by tricking their own self into believing forgotten outdated tales for the sake of it, they will be among the first to realize how wrong they were, and how wrong they will always be.
>>76061630
God thinks the way all humans think in combined, at least the face of God that humans are capable of perceiving.
Now is when I ask, do you know where the name of God is written?
>>76062255
Any post 60s Vatican priest.
Go talk to one.
>>76062572
>"Then Jesus told them, 'Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s.' And they marveled at Him." Mark 12:17
>>76062635
k
>>76062572
>sedition against the Roman Empire
He wasn't charged for that.
He was charged with blasphemy by the Jews for claiming to be the Messiah.
>>76062538
Well first of all. Faith is something that comes slowly and is a gift from God. So that's why some seem able to believe while others weren't.
Many people who were long-time Atheists have found God.
It's impossible to describe the feelings of the Holy Spirit.
One of the first steps I always go through with non-believers is to show them first of all that higher dimensions are a scientific possibility that physicists take very seriously, especially today with chaos math and string theory.
>>76062635
>>76062735
>Presuming to know or even be capable of comprehending how God thinks.
Christbros,
How does Matthew 5:17 and the techings of Paul not contradict?
>>76062635
Nietzsche was also not anti-christian.
You don't understand what he was really talking about. You're just being an edgelord.
>The death of God was a tragedy, but few allow themselves to understand it, and others like him just pretend to find meaning in this world by going back into the oppressive, bigoted, absolutely corrupted moralistic and ignorant religion that once was Christianity when god didn't die\didn't kill himself\didn't get killed.
Are you also a leftist?
>>76062939
Because the law was fulfilled.
>>76062735
>post 60s Vatican priests
Who else? This evangelical, pentecostal christianity is huge. And on television and the internet. And there is protestantism. Which is somehow related.
Do they have this sort of thing?
>>76062992
yeah
but after that it says
18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:17-19
>>76062748
>>76062821
Look at him, look at him and laugh.
Steady and strong is his delusion, for he is unable to understand Zarathustra himself.
>God is dead.
>God remains dead.
>And we have killed him.
>How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers?
>What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has >bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us?
>What water is there for us to clean ourselves?
>What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? >Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us?
>Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?
>>76063112
k
>>76062784
Thanks for being patient with me.
Are you saying that God could be some being able to operate in higher dimensions? I agree that such a being could certainly appear God-like to us (this is reminding me of the book Flatland)
>>76062962
>Nietzsche was also not anti-christian.
I am.
I'm an antitheist.
I'm not Nietzsche.
>le you don't understand him meme xdd
And i'm not a leftist, i'm apolitical.
>>76063194
k
>>76053969
>haven't been to church since I was 8
>want to start going to church services again
>to afraid since I know nobody there and have no idea of the liturgy
what do
>>76053969
>>76058531
don't worry, any verse about lust shows you are a degenerate trying to look for excuses
>There is a difference between thinking about your wife or gf while touching yourself in the shower, or looking at mild porn, versus webcamming while you hilt a dragon dildo with traps on screen
There isn't
>One is healthy and clears your mind and removes temptation
No you huge retard, doing that is the temptation , idiot, you just give in to lust
>>76063093
Yes, all was accomplished. The current commands are the ones given by Jesus
>>76063231
>nothing that you have received
>only what you have been given
Those mean the same fucking thing.
>>76063377
>expecting christians to be coherent
>>76063259
strawman: the pic
>>76063377
have given, not have been given. Read it again
>>76063445
>le strawman meme
Ha!
>>76063505
k
>>76063194
>I'm an anti-theist
Do you reject the possibility of the supernatural entirely?
>apolitical
What a shocker.
>>76063182
Chaos math and string theory tell us that there are probably 10 dimensions higher than our own. Obviously a higher dimensional being would be able to perceive the lower dimensional beings, and even interact with them to some degree. But we wouldn't be able to perceive them.
Most religions, including Christianity point towards similar things when it comes to the dimensional issue.
You also have to remember that God is outside of time because he CREATED time.
Einstein discovered that time itself is relative. Which means that time bends and warps. The very reason you feel like time is going faster or slower is because it actually IS changing speeds. It's relative.
You have to start thinking 4th dimensionally Marty!
>>76063553
>Assisi
Oh, please.
>>76062872
Now is when I either convince you I'm a prophet of God or I completely give up on you altogether.
The God I'm describing is believable, powerful and does not contradict the God in the bible or the God many intellectuals and scientists believe in. Heresy or not, the God I'm describing will form the basis of the God our descendents believe in lest we fall into atheism or worse, God forbid, polytheism.
For the last fucking time stop posting maldraw shit. Are you fucking damaged? Piece of shit is antisemitic, nothing destroys your reputation and believability than antisemitism, it's the only thing that needs to change about /pol/.
>>76063505
Someone made that image, and spent a fair amount of time on it, but *why*?
>>76063605
>Do you reject the possibility of the supernatural entirely?
Yes and no, it's pointless.
I'm ignostic, but strongly against any man-made religion, gods or whatever.
>>76063615
Why are you so butthurt Roma ? You have your own pagan pope. Why do you still keep complaining ?
>>76063768
You're barking at the wrong tree, my bulgarian friend. :^)
>>76053969
>Catholics and Protestants
What happened to Orthodox? I bought an Orthodox Bible in English and it gives a great argument as to why Orthodox is better than Catholic or Protestant sects.
Bascially it states the Catholic Church is too political, so the Orthodox and Catholic Chruch split when the Pope tried to appoint the leader in Constantinople when he had to right to do so. Then the Protestants broke away from the Catholic Church, and continue to break into tiny fractions for thousands of years.
>>76063274
>>76058531
>excuses
About this there is all resons to look for excuses. Rightfully so: >>76059293
What is said in general about lust is false. It has no foundation in the Bible or anywhere else. It is this paradox like abuse kind of thing.
>>76063691
Okay, since you're so adamantly against Christianity, I am assuming that you are therefore in favor of a more Atheist Government. Correct?
>>76063833
I'll make sure to say "and Orthodox" in the next OP so they don't feel excluded. Of course you're all welcome.
>>76063615
>>76063830
Out of curiosity . Im not trying to nag or anything
>"christianity is kuk xd"
>"jesus was a jew xd"
>"omg supernatural doesn’t exist"
>"y is god so mean???"
>"dude science lmao"
>"stop saying fedora >:( it really makes me angry"
>this is literally all the arguments that fedoras use
>>76063884
>Correct?
No.
Communism is a delusion, as much as pure nationalism.
Belief is a tool to reach an end.
If it is too strong, it becomes a religion.
If it is too weak, it becomes a philosophical idea.
Two sides of the same coin.
You can't be moral without being a religious person, so you can't have an atheist government.
>>76063641
>Now is when I either convince you I'm a prophet of God or I completely give up on you altogether.
>The God I'm describing.
>I'm describing
>I'm
Give up.
>>76063830
>>76063691
>>76063615
>>76063505
>>76063409
>>76063194
>>76063112
>>76062635
>>76062259
>>76062078
>>76061764
>>76061503
>>76061217
>>76061151
>>76060961
>>76060646
>>76060574
>>76060088
>>76059752
>>76059479
>>76058880
>>76058489
>>76058204
>All of this pain and suffering
It's sad to see Anon. You need help. Spiritual Help, and you can feel it. I can feel it through your posts. Whatever happened in your childhood, know that God loves you, and that sometimes bad things happen.
I'll pray for you.
>>76064040
he is literally underage. He'll change when he grows up
>>76063984
>You can't be moral without being a religious person, so you can't have an atheist government.
and yet you're against Religion. Makes sense.
I think I'm beginning to understand why you're apolitical
Are you "I don't know: the person"?
>>76056845
>Where else do young Christians converse anonymously?
firstly of all theres a full board dedicated to this shit, secondly, why do you want to do this anonymously? dont you mongoloids thrive on the victim complex? afraid of your friends knowing that you still believe in magic?
For all fedoras if there is no God then how come this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment
?
>>76063947
Beautiful pic, and post. God Bless.
>>76063274
(interested in responses of course)
Why do Christians disadvantage themselves? And by that anyone else. And often out of quite a lot of own initiative. Of course it is a conviction about what is right or wrong. But still at the same time it is disadvantaging. In a really very bad way and without good reasons. And it totally goes against logic. A kind of logic and reasoning that would absolutely be obligated to use in life.
I've been waiting for a while now to ask a few questions to other catholics. I was raised catholic with my family and extended family all devout catholics in north central USA.
Recently I have been thinking more and more about christian teachings and I have convinced myself christianity was an offshoot of Judaism made to create a multiethnic group of shabbos goy for them.
∆ Christianity shares many ideals with different contemporary or even older religions from the area now known as the middle East. Is that a coincidence? Or were different teachings picked out from many religions and sewn together?
∆ The bible emphasizes turning the other cheek, which is widely viewed as a cuck-tier belief. "God helps those who help themselves" yet passivity and acceptance is so valued in the modern church.
∆ Why is the old testament included and lumped together with the NT if that is all Jew nonsense? That is the Old Law and with the birth and death of Jesus that should be irrelevant, should it not?
I would appreciate someone responding to me on this. My beliefs in the church teachings were once strong and unwavering until I began associating with and befriending people who have revealed themselves to me over time to be occultists. I had hoped to gain knowledge and insight from their viewpoints to augment my own beliefs but all it has done for me is severely shake my belief in God and make me feel as though i have been lied to for years.
>>76064227
Oh I really wanted to add this too to this post: >>76063835
does anybody have orthodox churches pics?
i only got catholic
>>76064040
Spare me your pity and compassion, for i have no uses for them.
And keep your god to yourself, i have my gods and they work flawlessly.
>>76064126
I don't know.
>>76063259
Jesus already came and did that. There is literally no reason to do it twice since it has also been well documented.
>>76064289
maybe but I can't be bothered to look for them 2bh
>>76064040
How do I filter posts by ID's? Can't seem to get it to work.
>>76064367
>this is what christians actually believe
HAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>76064247
>Recently I have been thinking more and more about christian teachings and I have convinced myself christianity was an offshoot of Judaism made to create a multiethnic group of shabbos goy for them.
The Spanish Inquisitions directly contradict this.
> The bible emphasizes turning the other cheek, which is widely viewed as a cuck-tier belief. "God helps those who help themselves" yet passivity and acceptance is so valued in the modern church.
This means not to respond to evil with evil.
Remember that Jesus told Peter to buy a sword, so that they could defend themselves. There's a big difference between being a peaceful person and being a cuck.
You're supposed to withstand insults and aggression as much as you can. But if necessary, you use the sword.
>Why is the old testament included and lumped together with the NT if that is all Jew nonsense? That is the Old Law and with the birth and death of Jesus that should be irrelevant, should it not?
The Old Testament is literally chronicles about how the Jews were supposed to be the people of God but failed because they were stubborn greedy bastards, who are now sentenced to walk the earth scorned and hated until the end days(lots of evidence that we're at that point as well)
>>76064298
Don't worry, you'll grow up eventually :^)
>>76064298
>have gods that work flawlessly
>be on 4chuan
>>76064458
Kek is one marvellous motherfucker, isn't he?
>>76064298
>>76064544
Oh come on, you can do better than that.
Why don't you ask your skydaddy to "remove" me, uh?
>>76064298
One day, when your God's fail or turn on you. The King of King's will be waiting for you to return. He'll say "I've never left you, or betrayed you.".
Honestly, what in your life has made you so angry? Parent issues, social anxiety?
>>76064612
>skydaddy
boy
you sure got us there
how could we recover from something so original and mean
>>76064612
Why would we do that? You're a soul that can be saved.
>skydaddy
Names do not affect or belittle us. We are not muslims. It only makes you look more and more sad.
>>76064532
Kek is a c u ck . He was cooked back in the day by Yahweh and the jews. Plagues of egypt etc...
Have fun being a lesser being instead of partaker in the glory of the most powerful and high God.
>>76064627
>this is what christians actually believe
God fucking damn, i love this site.
>>76064612
>29 posts
you seem real angry, what does this do to benefit you emotionally?
>>76064705
>>76064715
>>76064730
>our flavour of ice cream is better than yours
BRING FORTH THE PLUCKED CHICKEN ALREADY!
>>76064756
Now you're just repeating yourself. Please answer the question: Why are you so angry at God? There's no reason to lie or be defensive on an anonymous board.
>>76064454
Thanks for the reply.
Regarding the OT, if so why are Jews seen as close relatives and the people god has truly chosen on earth? Would it not be better for christians to be the 'new' chosen ones who all others should support and aid, much like the mystic Jew is viewed as?
>>76064831
I'm not angry at "your" god, which is one among many.
I'm angry at those who feed said god with their mindless delusions.
I'm tired of your shit clogging up the noosphere.
Sure, it's shit, so it's amusing, but it becomes redundant after a while.
>>76064823
>32 posts
how does being this upset help you emotionally? is it a positive ting or a negative thing?
>>76064227
I don't really care about the monstrosities you call "logic". What is logical is that it is wrong and lustful
>>76064886
He's our God. He is a God for everyone, not just believers. He loves you. He created you. He sees your pain. Heck, everyone on this board can see that.
Again, I ask: Why are you so angry (at God)? What happened in your life that made you so upset? Death of a family member? Father beat you?
Things happen in life, and you need to learn how to cope with them. Lashing out emotionally is not the correct way. I honestly pray you will find peace one day.
>>76064878
>Regarding the OT, if so why are Jews seen as close relatives and the people god has truly chosen on earth? Would it not be better for christians to be the 'new' chosen ones who all others should support and aid, much like the mystic Jew is viewed as?
God isn't done with the Jews yet.
The prophecy is this.
God will gather them back into Israel(which is what he's doing now) and they will go through many problems and eventually the Temple of Solomon will be rebuilt there, and the Anti-Christ will go to Israel and proclaim himself to be God.
Based on what you've already seen about the Jews, is it any surprise that they're gonna be involved in the final bout?
When the Anti-Christ reveals himself, there will be a Civil War in Israel. Many of the Jews will realize that the Anti-Christ is evil and fight against him. They will have a huge battle at Jerusalem.
Half the city will be taken, and then Jesus will return.
The Jews that fought back against the Anti-Christ will fall on their knees and beg Jesus for mercy and forgiveness
They will "mourn for the one whom they had pierced"
>>76065114
No, no, no and no.
Come on, you silly kraut, you know better than me how bullshit religion is.
>>76064878
They are not. They call themselves jews, buut they spit on God and the Old Testament. But through deception and lies they keep their evil alive. can't expect much from the people who killed God
Revelation 3:9 is specially relevant
>>76065158
No since, his religion isn't atheism
>>76053969
/pol/ is a Christian board.
>>76064886
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-rD4gD3Oe4
>>76065096
>monstrosities
Logic or not being against lust as I described is simply absurd and against, then if you will, any workable way of thinking and acting you can't go without in daily life.
Or you would probably go mad.
>>76065249
I'm not an atheist either, so what is your point exactly?
Are you going to call for the all evil boogeyman of atheism and tell me to tip my fedora? :^)
>>76065333
Doesn't matter, insert any other religion there.
>>76065328
It really isn't, no matter how much you want to be a wild animal.
>>76065333
I noticed him too. We have /x/ here too. I think a good idea to warn for possible double crossing.
>>76065249
What I say above here can sound bad. But don't worry. I don't have any bad intentions. I'm sure it will be ok, looking at discussions here so far.
>>76065436
Including Christianity?
Or isn't christianity the chosen religion?
>muh special snowflakeish religion is right1!!1!
Absolutely fucking pathetic.
>>76065333
>34 posts by this user
you havent made a single point this entire thread. you have only shown your deeply aggitated state of mind. on an emotional level, this is harming you. can you think of any beneficial reason to remain hostile all your waking hours? acceptance of the Lord will surely bring you peace.
>>76065523
>le you are so hostile man why so hostility please accept jesus he dindu nuffin he a good boy
Cut me some slack you abhorrent maniac.
Keep thinking that i'm mad or any other bullshit you wrote in your post, it only makes my cock harder.
>>76064878
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l3L_QAmpdE&feature=youtu.be
good docu about jews
>>76065601
How was the trip over from Libya ahmed? Did any of your family drown?
>>76065512
No. Christianity is right, and all others are wrong. I have absolutely no problem telling you, and anyone who isn't Christian, are followers of lies
Guys, just filter the ID. He's contributing absolutely nothing. He only wants to derail the thread, and you're letting him do it.
>>76065601
>36 posts by this user
i'm really worried about you anon. you can either choose to live in constant anguish, visibly mad... or choose to be calm and peaceful like everyone else in this thread.
i think you should make a decision to model your life after the peaceful anons
What do you guys think heaven looks like? I used to be quite scared at the idea of eternity, but now I've grown fond of it. I like to imagine that it's like a regular city, with all of the technologies of a city. And people just go around doing day to day stuff. But somehow we are also praising God in every moment of our 'lives'. I haven't quite figured out how the two blend yet.
>>76066178
Just don't reply to him, that's exactly what he wants.
>>76066064
Or he and somehow I feel he >>76065617 too is just not that old and also on /x/. This is against 4chan rules.
Though I can't be against that sort of thing. I think it should. Though being moderate and a bit silent in saying this. Longer story. Short is that I would sooner not trust the reasons behind it.
>>76056120
There's definitely truth in it, but nothing new is being said. Millions of people have put the connections between the US and Babylon together, and I have a feeling it's true to some extent. We're definitely always drawing nearer to the end days, but you can put these connections together between all kinds of people and events. It's phony and sloppy fear mongering to shill this bull shit they're trying to sell. It's always good to be prepared mentally for anything to happen, but there's no reason to believe the end of the world is coming before the new year instead of 100 years from now
>>76066328
if anything it is the 4th dimension with ability to observe and exist through time (immortality)... with God/Trinity existing in a further plane (5th or 6th) capable of changing entire outcomes and timelines. >exactly what he wants.
you'll find that addressing them at least focuses their hatred back on themselves. maybe it helps him, if anything beneficial comes of these threads it's worth it.
>>76066328
I think it's like the Renaissance except with high technology and everyone's a Renaissance man.
>>76065818
Are you the same that remarked yesterday that he had this very clear thoughts or even some sort of apparition speaking to him?
>>76066949
>and everyone's a Renaissance man.
Does this mean we're all gonna get /fit/?
>>76067174
couldnt dreams be interpreted as visions?
>>76063251
Just go in and watch. You dont have to do anything.
See what they do and do it the next time you go in
Haven't been to /pol/ in a while, I'm glad there's actually a real thread attempting to talk about Christianity. People should keep making them. Don't mind the haters. They just confirm the hatred some people have for God and his word
God bless all of you :)
I love you all
>>76067256
We're all gonna make it brah. Deus vult.
>>76065734
Muslims are even worse than Christians, i wonder why we haven't nuked 'em already.
Fucking useless americans, you had one job.
>>76065818
I beg to differ.
Just because the crowning achievement of Christianity was to unify the tribalized tribes of the post-rome Europe under one faith so that they could all thrive, slowly, until the death of God, doesn't mean that it is a good thing.
At all.
>>76066178
Keep pushing this meme, anon.
You're doing a fine job with it.
Also, i like where this thread is heading.
>visions and dimensions
>mfw
>>76067309
I'm not sure. Very basic with that sort of thing is confirmation about the source I think. So basically a double blind confirmation evidence about what it is. Like say real prophets and such get from God.
>>76067438
There has been an eternal Christian general for the last few days now. Feels heavenly man.
>>76067567
>feels heavenly
But heaven isn't real, anon. :^)
Does anyone here go to church tomorrow or are you practicing the word of God by yourself?
>>76067603
Yes it is.
>>76067603
It is though lad :^)
I don't know why you're compulsed to keep posting in this thread or what you think you're accomplishing lol It's clear to everyone around you that there's a deep rooted reason that you can't stop
>>76067309
It depends. Obviously not all dreams are visions, but I believe that God does speak to us in our dreams sometimes. The tricky part is figuring out A) is it actually from God, and B) if it is, what is He trying to tell me?
>>76067567
I know, lets hope we can keep it up.
>>76067650
Yeah I'll be going. I've got an exam on Monday too, but I don't think that's a good enough reason to skip out on service.
>>76067721
Prove it. :^)
>>76067724
I'm bored, and on noosphere-channel there is nothing interesting, so i'm shitposting here.
>>76067518
>still posting
Dude. You really need help and guidance. If you have parents, start with them. Or go to your local Church.
i barely eat and mostly drink for months now.
i keep getting worse and worse nightmares some lucid , some not.
i´ve met lucifer in my dreams multiple times and other demons.
i was in hell in my dreams.
i saw a great explosion/fire rise in egypt that washed away many souls.
i saw incredible tsunamis and huge monsters crawling out of the sea devouring and ripping people in half.
i saw nuclear blasts set off but can´t tell where.
i saw the sky darken and souls taken to the sky.
i can use magic in my dreams and switch astral planes on demand by now.
i am no longer afraid of what´s coming i´ve lived other lives and had many deaths in em , i felt the pain of being eaten alive , killed by sword , gunshots (prefer those) burnt alive(not so good) my hands cut off (supershit).
what im trying to say is , i´ve apocalyptic dreams and i saw floods in germany before they happened but i can never warn anyone about anything because i don´t know their locations.
i just see things before they happen.
the next big thing is around the corner.
may god have mercy on us all.
>i know a lot of you will think im making things up , wish i did but a few of my dreams came true and i hope most won´t ever because it would mean that we are entering the antichrists ruling era.
may god save us through jesus if he deems us worthy of saving.
i love you all - stay safe i might die soon and have come to terms with it.
>>76067834
But what do you think you're accomplishing? What do you gain?
>>76055141
So I can genocide and I'll go to heaven ?
>>76067747
>>>76067567
>I know, lets hope we can keep it up.
>Before, in another thread I said that it would be interesting to see how we could actually change the whole of Christianity
I still think this is realistic and interesting. I don't mean an insincere thing. But it would be good for not costing an effort to keep it up.
>>76067991
Churches are a cradle of ignorance and idiots.
No thanks, i'd like to see them burning tho.
>>76067996
You probaly suffer from food poisoning, chemical intoxication or psychosis, which leads to schizophrenia.
There is nothing holy about what you're experiencing.
Get a grip on reality, you dumb idiot.
>>76068082
Immense pleasure.
>>76068241
Wanted to add this here too
>>76059293
>>76068159
Of course, Pierré. :^)
Heaven is real! God loves us all!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8TBGhqBf4A
>>76068296
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0AZUbYhDjKI
begone heathen.
IP uploaded new video today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ie9musGEqQ
>>76068296
The existence of heaven and hell can and is proven...
>>76068584
Show me then, go on.
And don't waste my time with kids saying to have seen hell\heaven when they were in a fuckign coma, since the novelty has run off since by at least fifty years now.
>>76068584
that is a bold claim
>>76067834
Prove there isn't one.
>>76068660
>>76068645
I can do it with ease
>>76056549
>The story is an allegory, and shouldn't be taken literally.
Heresy.
>>76068755
don't let us waiting
>>76068159
With Jesus in your heart you won't want to commit genocide.
>>76068693
>hurr prove that there isn't one
>absent fallacy
There is no need to prove that something whose description has been made outdated by science actually currently exists because of a bunch of weird idiots following a forgotten cult. :^)
Besides, i really see no heaven up in the skies, anon.
And now go on, amaze me with some bullshit like "no it is a different dimension!1"
Sure thing buddy. :^)
>>76068241
>interesting to see how we could actually change the whole of Christianity
Why would we do this?
Jesus "refugees welcome" Christ
Jesus "who raped my mother?" Christ
Jesus "crusades wasn't murder" Christ
Jesus "genocide is ok when it's us" Christ
