>In 2003, the Smithsonian Institution in Washington DC was about to put the newly restored Enola Gay on public display for the first time since the war. As a survivor, Keiko Ogura was invited to witness the plane's unveiling.
>It was an opportunity for reconciliation and understanding. But that is not what happened.
>"Many American people said to me, 'Congratulations, you could come here thanks to the bombing! Without the bombing you would have to do hara-kiri, you know, commit suicide.'
>"That is a very awful excuse. We do not blame the Americans, but they should not say that thanks to the bomb so many people could survive."
Probably the most terrifying thing the American public has ever been brainwashed into believing (we're talking cosmic horror levels of terrifying) is that the atomic bombings, which killed hundreds of thousands of civilians, many slowly and painfully due to radiation poisoning, "probably saved lives and is something Japs should thank us for."
This is literally ISIS logic, the idea that you can sacrifice hundreds of thousands of women and children who had no say in the matter for a presumed "greater good."
Americans really are the worst people who ever lived.
One more Hiroshima No more Nagasaki
>>75246877
>Probably the most terrifying thing the American public has ever been brainwashed into believing (we're talking cosmic horror levels of terrifying) is that the atomic bombings, which killed hundreds of thousands of civilians, many slowly and painfully due to radiation poisoning, "probably saved lives and is something Japs should thank us for."
do you have any idea how many American GIs would have been killed if we would have invaded? upwards of 1 million. we were expecting so many casualties that we made so many Purple Hearts we havent made any since 1945.
>>75246877
Shieeeettt you means to tell me aliens shitpost on /pol/?
>>75246877
You're that britcuck that keeps trying to get America to apologize for Hiroshima. Hiding your flag doesn't make you any scarier.
>>75246877
>calling plane gay
YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
It would have cost millions of American lives to invade Japan. And they would have fought us bitterly, and many Japanese civilians would have died. Stalin would have thus had an excuse to invade northern Japan, and we wouldn't have invaded Korea. Imagine that- a unified Korea under the Kims, and a North and South Japan. I don't want that world.
>>75247052
>>75247346
brainwashed idiots.
>>75247185
APOLOGIZE
>>75247464
>>75246877
We don't want your posts here, riddler.
>>75247225
>a land invasion would cause more deaths
>burgers believe this
just end my life already
>>75247530
It actually is since Japan had no will to fight anymore and was already cut off its supply lines.
A display of force by dropping the bomb on uninhabited ground would have had the same results but the Americans wanted to test the bomb on live subjects, american scientists were at Hiroshima before even Japanese emergency response.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki were war crimes and I swear to god if Marine becomes president I'll personally petition her for the international prosecution of England and America for the crimes committed against the French and Japanese people.
>>75246877
quit your fucking bitching, the fire bombing of tokyo killed ten times as many people, and dresden was dozens of times more catastrophic.
But nuclear SCAAAAAAAAAAAAARY, fucking pommy cunts.
>>75247692
>>75247732
t. American rapist
>>75247732
This, the fire bombings of Tokyo were much worse than the bombs, but people seem to only care about the bombs. I don't know why, it may be fear.
>>75246877
If you knew any thing about the subject you would realize the fire bombings did a lot more damage and causalities. Also it WAS thanks to the bomb that Japanese survived, the emperor at the time wanted power so bad that he was willing to sacrifice most of his people for it.
I will say one thing, thanks to Japans honor type system it allowed them to climb out the trenches instead of becoming a 3rd world hell hole that blames white people for their problems.
>>75246877
BUT AMERICA ARE ALWAYS THE GOOD GUYS HOW DARE YOU
>>75247950
one bomb vaporized 140 000 people and a whole city for no reason other than pure sadism
it was unnecessary
it was done as a show of force towards the USSR
120 000 civilians died
Doing worse somehow does not excuse it, it only shows that Americans are sadist pieces of shit that should be exterminated
>>75247732
Nuclear weapons represented the advent of new completely unexplored warfare with lasting effects on the environment. For the first time in existance man had a means of completely destroying the planet.
>>75247732
M8 theres a huge section of uninhabited towns because of nuclear activity in your nation. Stop with retarded ideals.
Its funny how the person who does the bombing knows more about the circumstances of the victim than the actual victim themself.
>>75248081
Cool, can i blame you for atrocities during the french revolution or something similar and exterminate you? I had nothing to do with the war, i was just fortunately/unfortunately born in this country.
>>75246877
My grandfather served on a submarine during the war. He disagreed with the bombing and would usually chastise anyone in the family who made racist remarks about the Japanese.
The bombings did save the lives of many U.S. servicemen, and also stopped the Japanese surprise biological attack against the west coast (weaponized bubonic plague. The U.S. should never apologize for the actions that have created the world today. Japan rose up over their adversity and never stumped to playing victim.
The suicide theory is based on the events of mass suicides in Okinawa after U.S. Invasion.
>>75246877
Could you suck Obama's tiny dick any harder?
Hello paid Hillary shill
>>75246877
>Unknown
lol, chink, you people dont even value your own lives or else you wouldnt all be living under shitty dictatorships, aside from japan, which is full of suicide anyway because your women all hate you because you have tiny cocks
>>75246877
HOW DARU RU WHITU DEVIRU REMEBERU THE 2 GARIARU
>>75248081
Okay so get your government to get rid of your nukes then.
You're not going to be a bad sadist and keep such naughty bad weapons, even though you developed and became world class in creating and maintaining them all on your own, are you?
Shh, that's right shh. Just wave the white flag again, it'll all be okay.
>>75246877
Fuck off, Nigel
>>75247583
>swede talking about warfare
>>75248192
Americans are unable to process anything but their own self-righteousness.
They be gud boys.
>>75248232
>Cool, can i blame you for atrocities during the french revolution
No because I publicly and clearly express my strong disagreement with the methods and ideas of the revolution.
>>75248352
It's funny how your grasping at straws and then use memes and ad hominems in a fine display of post Iraq war american brainwash.
I never said I'm against the nuclear weapon or nuclear energy.
You're projecting too much mister American vassal island off the coast of Europe.
>>75248081
They needed a few more. Cuck.
>>75247052
"I was against it on two counts. First, the Japanese were ready to surrender, and it wasn't necessary to hit them with that awful thing. Second, I hated to see our country be the first to use such a weapon."
Dwight D. Eisenhower - Newsweek (11 November 1963), p. 107
>>75246878
where are you, mystery flag?
>>75247692
Your country is a trashcan for the third world
>>75248500
>No because I publicly and clearly express my strong disagreement with the methods and ideas of the revolution.
Disagreement isn't enough, Jean.
>>75248747
Certainly not the fault of the eternal American or anything.
>>75248634
"I'd rather we continue killing ten times as many of them with fire instead! That's a much more ethical way to kill civilians."
>>75246877
American expat reporting in
We won the war for our country at any cost.
And we remain proud of it.
>>75248763
What would you have me do ?
My grandfather is from the border between Bretagne and Vendée, 3/4 of his people was exterminated during the revolution, my other grandfather is from the south and their culture and language were eradicated in the name of the Republic.
>>75247966
They were unable to find out if it was the Emperor who wanted war or just the military. Considering that the Emperor is basically a god to them, the nips could use religion to get this war going. The Emperor may have just been hiding in his cuckshed the entire time, or maybe he started war, because even a hermit would notice that all of Tokyo is burned down.
>>75246877
>probably saved lives and is something Japs should thank us for."
It did. Japan was due for a famine in the fall of '45.
>>75246877
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cherry_Blossoms_at_Night
"During the last months of the war, Ishii was preparing for a long-distance attack on the United States. This operation, codenamed "Cherry Blossoms at Night", called for the use of airplanes to spread plague over Southern California at night. The plan was finalized on March 26, 1945. Five of the new I-400-class long-range submarines were to be sent across the Pacific Ocean, each carrying three Aichi M6A Seiran aircraft loaded with plague-infected fleas. The submarines were to surface near San Diego and launch the aircraft towards the target, either to drop the plague via balloon bombs, or to crash in enemy territory. Either way, the plague would then infect people in the area and kill perhaps tens of thousands. The mission was extremely risky for the pilots and submariners, likely a one-way kamikaze mission."
obligatory
Hiroshima is debatable, but understandable, I probably would have done the same if the decision were in my hands.
Nagasaki was unnecessary imo, the Japanese government should have been given a week to respond at least. Much of the cabinet was already in favour of surrendering, and part of the reason army officials didn't immediately was that they weren't really aware of the scale of the damage from Hiroshima - some of them flat out refused to believe that it really was an atomic bomb at first. Once the government actually realised the scale of the damage, and it became clear that the 'survivors' were all dying from radiation poisoning, I imagine surrender would have followed. Without being too cynical, Nagasaki was definitely influenced by the Soviet DOW.
I've still always though the Americans could have dropped it on something like strategic military base or a port rather than just hitting the middle of civilian Hiroshima - demonstrate overwhelming superiority and the futility of further Japanese fighting without going straight for the cities. Yes, they only had 2 nukes available to them and it would have taken a few months to procure another, but killing 100,000 people in a single day (well, technically over a longer period of time from radiation exposure) is not very nice regardless.
>>75248500
>No because I publicly and clearly express my strong disagreement with the methods and ideas of the revolution.
But you bear the flag REEEEEEEEEEE
>>75248081
>Frenchman calling Americans sadists
where does the word sadism come from mon chere
>>75249101
I love how you use their barbarian ways to rationalize and justify your own.
by that same logic 9/11 was justified by the shit America did in South America, Lebanon, Cuba, Vietnam, Iraq, Iran, Germany, etc...
>>75249188
only on 4chan and against my will to boot
>>75246877
>pure evil
Reminder: we were chillin on December 7 until the 'japs' attacked
also
People suffered greatly on the USS Arizona.
>>75249221
I bet that post sounded smart in your head.
>>75246877
If the Japanese had 10 atomic bombs, they would've dropped them all on us in a heartbeat.
>>75249290
m8 the magazines blew, they weren't suffering for long
>>75249374
and in hindsight you'd have deserved it
>>75246877
Fuck you. Count yourself lucky we didn't just depopulate all of Japan and turn it into a nature preserve.
>>75247692
France hasn't been a real country since you got hardcucked during WW2, no one cares.
>>75249337
You cannot imagine how snooty this post sounds in my head
Japan was going to get bombed into rubble. The only question was whether it was going to be 2 planes with 2 atomic bombs, or 20,000 planes with 2,000,000 conventional bombs.
>>75249374
Saburo Sakai said basically the same thing.
>>75249418
snoot snoot snooty snoot
>>75246877
>le ebin nuke meme
Maybe we should have just let Russia purify Japan. No real humans would have died.
>>75246878
MYSTERY FLAG
>>75246878
R A R E
A
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>>75249454
And I bet you enjoyed it.
>>75249435
That's not what the Americans thought in the 60's and 70's when they ganged up against the USSR to fight us, or when our military doctrines and officer training has been the basis of their military since the 50's.
>>75247489
I'm sorry you are Spanish
>>75246877
You're buttmad they didn't go with the Incendiary Radio Deployed Bats that they planned.
>>75248192
That's because Japan is one of the most brainwashed countries in the world. Jap citizens thought they were going to win, right up until they got vaporized.
>>75246878
fucking aliens
>>75246877
>not taking opportunity to test new weapon on enemies
Talk shit get hit nips.
>>75246877
>this specific group of humans has committed war crimes and they aren't sorry
>*ignores the fact that the entirety of the history of modern man is conquest and killing*
>literally they are the worst
gr8 talking points m8
All this thread is missing is some Japanese war crime denial
>>75249287
Fuck off, French cum bucket. If you think nukes are so bad, dismantle your own. Or better yet, give them to us so we can purify your banlieus.
>>75249545
Muh doctrines
Muh DeGaule
Muh Canal
Muh leave NATO
Muh can I have Saarland?
Fucking frogs literally trying any angle to sound edgy about justifying their lack of a role in 70 year old geopolitics.
Go rape some more Algerians you fucking crybabies
>>75246877
Uh, no.
If the Japanese people didn't want to be the victims of American lethality they should not have allowed a militaristic government to lead them to such a fate.
Unit 451
>>75246877
Stay salty, US is hegemon. We'll gladly test out weapons on a populace and noone will stop us, thanks. Especially one were we're war with and when theres no risk of friendly fire. The best part is, the two bombings were just combat tests of two competing designs.
Fucking Nips should be honored to be involved in such an important achievement for mankind.
>>75249788
We were the main continental power until the late 90's when the EU started sucking us dry.
You're just mad because you know that your country is the prime evil of the world.
>>75249418
Fucking frog logic. I bet you'd make Japanese women have hairy armpits while you'd make Japanese waiters act like assholes to tourists.
>>75246878
>>75247464
We should have let the krauts annex you.
>americans
Implying any of us had anything to do with that decision, poor as fuck here have enough problems dealing with the man.
>>75249967
We would have fared better.
>>75248267
No one is being paid to shill for Hillary, by the way. It's a Republican-funded lie and a pathetic attempt to smear her campaign.
>>75249866
France was getting sucked dry by itself in the 1960's.
You're welcome for all of the financing and the peace held under our umbrella in order to give your new republic a chance to dabble in socialism.
Btw thanks for kicking off all the shit in indochina. That was mighty white of ya!
>>75249101
>literally beliving in ameridumb propaganda
holy shit
>>75249787
t. tapped frenchman
>>75250014
No one would disagree.
>You cannot qualify war in harsher terms than I will. War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it; and those who brought war into our country deserve all the curses and maledictions a people can pour out.
>War is the remedy our enemies have chosen. Other simple remedies were within their choice. Yon know it and they know it, but they wanted war, and I say let us give them all they want; not a word of argument, not a sign of let up, no cave in till we are whipped or they are.
>If the people raise a howl against my barbarity and cruelty, I will answer that war is war, and not popularity-seeking.
Based Sherman would have nuked them.
>>75250070
Cockroach would be happier had the soviets nuked the japs.
>>75247692
Good luck, Abdul
>I.....iii...im gonna petition my waifu politician who has no chance of getting elected because my country is terminally cucked beyond redemption.
We should have tested them on you.
ayyy lmao
Getting unconditional surrender was important, Japan needed to be completely taken a part and restructured on every level. It's very easy after the fact to say that it was unnecessary but we could very easily be in an alternate history where the allies had to continue on with a hellish land invasion of Japan which would have caused more casualties on both sides. One coup had already been attempted to try and stop the surrender, should America stopped and waited untill a successful coup took place?
>>75250066
Actually the issues in Indochina were kicked off by the CIA funding the commies to take control of the opium fields we used to finance our black ops.
>France was getting sucked dry by itself in the 1960's.
Gee it's certainly not due to colonial wars fueled by Americano-Russian anti-colonial sprees.
>You're welcome for all of the financing and the peace held under our umbrella in order to give your new republic a chance to dabble in socialism.
I'm laughing, all the financing America did was handled by NSA/CIA agents (like Jean Monet who latter became a founding father of the EU) against the long term interests of France that represented the Third Way during the cold war that both sides wanted to get rid of.
>>75249866
You French pussies. Happy to ride the American appointed continual power title. Yet happy to call the Yanks cowards for winning the war for us all.
The reason the roads in France are lined with trees is because Germans like to march in the shade.
>>75249775
There's nothing to deny
>>75250304
Lol Alex jones tier conspiracy theories
Le CIA man
>>75249866
>hurr durr America is ebil
Please feel free to stop going to our schools, consuming our media, copying our trends, purchasing our goods and following our news like it isnt your hobby.
get a flag, you faceless wretch and stop bitching about something that happened 60 years ago. It makes you look weak as fuck
I love both japs and americunts, but the former have not much to apologize
go USA
TRUMP2016
i can think of many worse ways to go than perishing in a nuclear fireball. japan was spared a full invasion of its home islands, and millions, not just hundreds of thousands, would have died were the sheer insanity of it to have gone through, and it would have if it weren't for the manhattan project.
this is irrespective to the further outright lunacy of the cold war's technology, which by in large has never seen true usage.
i think they've come to recognize how sweet a deal they got and still have, minus packs of marines raping japanese schoolchildren.
>>75250322
France was in a dire but balanced situation until the yanks invaded Europe and permanently fucked it up.
Under the Vichy regime we had solid institutions, a strong government and were able to handle ourselves well.
>>75250411
Unclassified CIA documents under the FIA released in 2011 I believe proved that Jean Monnet was an American agent and so is the EU.
>>75250434
>Please feel free to stop going to our schools, consuming our media, copying our trends, purchasing our goods and following our news like it isnt your hobby.
I don't do any of those though.
>>75250070
How about you ask the Chinese if they think that is propaganda you cockroach.
This all boils down to what is essentially and edgy pseudo intellectual beta bitching about Chad winning the football game and getting the girls.
Frog needs to realize that post war maps of the world were drawn up at Potsdam and that the allies (including the frogfags) had already agreed that it would be an outcome of American vs Soviet detente, and the only debate left would be how Much of a sphere of influence each side could hoarde before the end.
Sorry you didn't get too many choices in the matter France. Sure beats having all of Germany go to the soviets and having them on your doorstep for 50 years.
Fucking Chad! Lol
>>75246877
tough titties alien. fuck off back your galaxy before we nuke that
>>75248124
So how does bombing Hiroshima have anything to do with that? The Russians would have made enough nukes to end the world several times over whether or not we bombed Hiroshima.
>>75250659
You're infantile, just read yourself for fuck sake.
>>75250609
The Republic of China allied itself with Japan and used Japanese troops to fight the communists right after Japanese surrender.
The adopted son of Chiang Kai-shek was an officer in the Nazi army.
>>75250556
It just fuckinng proved that your shit leaders were complicit and begging for a way to handle a post-empire world. You kicked off a ton of bloodshed for bauget culture. Good job! And you make fun of us for burger culture.
>>75250556
Hahahahah
You disgrace your country and ancestors Frenchy. Pétain spent life in prison for allowing that to happen. Oh and what about the Germans? It seems to me that they were the contintal power for years and you poor boys had to live under them.
Joffre and Foch would spit on the vichy regime
>>75250751
Has nothing to do with any of this
Soviets were a rape machine and the Chinese were not yet fully cohesive
ISIS logic is a fanatical belief of an american ruling elite that they are always right no matter what they do in foreign politics. At this point it's just thirst for power and complete world domination via force if needed and it's not like they try to hide it.
I'm pretty sure though that most of average joes from this board don't give a fuck and they're cool, it's all about their government, really.
>>75250755
>You kicked off a ton of bloodshed for bauget culture
Did we now ?
>>75250803
Pétain literally did nothing wrong and De Gaulle was scheduled to enter the Vichy government.
>>75250812
it was to fight Mao not Russia
>>75246877
I swear I've read this thread a million times now. No, I'm not apologizing. If Japan can resurrect the soldiers they killed at Pearl Harbor, than we can talk. It's like talking a broken record by this point.
Its too late to apologize.
The Americans have to suffer for everything they did.
>>75246877
Just adding to this horrorshow but you can give us credit for not using the bomb too with Kennedy and Kruschev and using nukes probably stopped anyone else from ever using them, if never were they used maybe they'd first be used a few years ago but we'd see a holocaust rather than two bombs.
>>75246877
Do you not realise how many lives an invasion would of cost? We pushed German lines in Europe sometimes it would cost the lives of a 100,000 men for a mile of ground... 190,000 died in the dropping of two atomic bombs it would have been millions on both sides if we had to invade not only that but the Russians had won the eastern front and we're getting ready to turn thier eye to Japan if they invaded it would of been the same millions of Japanese casualties the end doesn't always justify but in this case it was the best possible outcome war isn't pretty it's not meant to be it's meant to be horrible there is no playing patty cake in war it was a new technology you going to tell japan and Chinese to apologize for thier use of chemical weapons? No because we are the only country to ever drop a nuke in war we have to apologize for it fuck off pussy
>>75247583
Yes it would of cost alot more are you retarded I know your getting the shit fucked out of you by islam ivan but remember to keep your wits about you
>>75246878
??????????????
>>75250898
Pétain sold out the honour of France. Literally WWII destroyed the French international reputation and Pétain as a WWI general should of known better than to bow to the whim of a dictator.
Also are you forgetting who funded the American rebellion against the British?
>>75250968
You gonna make that happen hanz? I doubt it
>>75246877
Agreed.
>>75250968
Soon brother
>>75251322
You are us. You don't get it. You are like our children. You are based on our DNA, the DNA of Europe. And now its time that daddy & mommy beat you up.
>>75251240
>Pétain sold out the honour of France
He literally did not though, but I don't expect you to know anything about him.
>Pétain as a WWI general should of known better than to bow to the whim of a dictator.
He didn't do, the nazi put him under house arrest in 1943 and orchestrated a coup that gave all power to Pierre Laval in 1942 because Pétain was actually undermining the nazis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Laval
>Also are you forgetting who funded the American rebellion against the British?
I'm not fogetting the americans never paid their debt to us and almost went to war against France with the weapons, boats and uniforms we gave them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quasi-War
>>75251393
This is why everyone thinks we are cucks fucking kys apologist fucking faggot let me guess your gonna let your girl get blacked to because of black oppression
>>75251474
I take it the war never happened because you surrendered to the yanks too?
>>75251474
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quasi-War
Serves them right. They trusted an American.
t. American
>>75246877
>doesn't know that Dresden and the firebombing Tokyo were exponentially worse than Hiroshima
Bringing up 'muh hiroshima' is an immediate indicator that you don't even have a cursory knowledge of the biggest events of WW2.
>>75246877
They're not THE worst.
Japanese conduct during the war beats them for a start.
>>75251445
Except now Mummy and Daddy lost to Baby and had to give up everything they had to defend themselves. Meanwhile the Kid is walking around with a machine gun.
Good luck beating that up Gerry
>>75251445
Yeah well where is your country now? You ginna send islam to do it?And btw we have kicked your ass in every war your country had in the last hundred yrs kek you will be on your own soon enough though hanz
>French frogs complaining about US military
>Same military that saved their asses from Hitler
>>75251587
But nukes are scary! Therefore muh human rights and now we must all take on Muslim refugees to apologize for it.
>>75251587
Typing that over and over doesn't make it any more right.
>>75251445
>the United States, a country, is stronger than all of Europe, a continent, combined
>>75251738
Except according to the Frenchies in this thread. Hitler was what the people of France wanted at the time.
The frogs don't like the fact they are now another little country struggling to keep their head above water. Meanwhile the Americans walk around like Kings.
Yanks will always have respect from the Aussies, unlike most other countries we had to deal with the fucking Japs as well
>>75251738
We really should just let total cuck countries like France, Belgium and Sweden fend for themselves. We'll see how smug they are in their decadent lifestyles once they have to actually defend themselves.
Better yet, let's just invade. I'd love to see them in the streets screaming "HUMAN RIGHTS! HUMAN DIGNITY!" and wondering why that isn't stopping our soldiers in their tracks.
>>75251872
With an IQ from about 80, because the supreme wincest.
Nice try brasilian roach.
>>75251974
112 IQ desu senpai.
>>75251573
>>75251872
He's right you know...
>>75246877
Americans are deeply stupid.
Like it's in their genes
They couldn't open their eyes if their life depended on it
>>75251974
>IQ of about 80
Americans at least learned to not shit where they eat. Europeans, on the other hand, have had three major wars that absolutely destroyed the Continent, in the same time period the US had one. The Napoleonic Wars and the World Wars really disprove this nonsense idea of the civilized European. Europeans are savages, barbarians who lived off the largesse of three other continents.
>>75251573
ROFL once the Americans showed they were down to fight the French signed a treaty immediately .
Goddamn surrender monkeys
>>75247052
The japs wanted to surrender since december 1944. Only condition was that they didn't want the emperor put on trial as war criminal. That was it.
The USA could have stopped the war 9 months earlier. Tell me again how the atomic bombs saved american soldiers, ignorant twat.
>>75246877
Here comes the American jingoist defence force
>>75250127
Yeah no shit they were lucky we didn't have generals like this during WW2 there would of been a German holocaust instead of a Jewish one
>>75252289
>We will surrender, America-san
>except the people who started this shit don't get prosecuted
>and we keep all the stuff we nicked from the Brits
Yeah sorry pass on that one fampai.
>>75252167
Imagine if America didn't nuke Japan. They'd be reminded of the 30 gorrillion every day.
>>75246877
Pure evil my fucking ass. It was the goddamn japs that started this shit. They had every last fucking bit of it coming. Useless subhuman savages. Why we didn't burn that entire island to the ground at the end of the war is beyond me. The world would be an infinitely better place today had every last fucking jap cocksucker on the planet been exterminated. Same goes for all fucking gooks.
Thankfully America's fucking itself up pretty bad with the whole 60% white thing, basically karma for being the shittiest main superpower in history
>>75252289
>under the condition
>condition
That wouldn't be an unconditional surrender now, would it? Two nukes was a small price to pay for Pearl Harbor, Bataan, and Unit 731. Fuck those Japs, they got off easy.
>>75252683
Rofl, I dunno I think the Mongols were probably the shittest superpower in history. Or perhaps the Assyrians from Mesopotamia.
The yanks don't want an Empire, yet every superpower before them has. Looking at the Union Jack on your flag mate.
>>75250434
I dont play magic but thise symbols are lands right? Why are here 48
>>75250553
It's not a proper war without raping of children.
>>75253061
*there 45
>>75246877
Americans are the retarded slaves of jews. So are we cucknadians for that matter. Pretty much all of the west has been infected and hijacked by the parasite.
Hopefully they'll wake up to the jewish parasite soon, but desu I don't think it's likely, we just need a China Russian offensive to wipe out the west at this point, we're too far gone into protecting these fucking rats.
>>75252233
Yes it surely has nothing to do with the fact that the 1778 government collapsed
![14181664654_f9596d0799_b[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/nCYxSGR.jpg "14181664654_f9596d0799_b[1].jpg")
>>75246877
I used to live in Dayton, and would visit the USAF museum there. Japs would always have there picture taken in front of Bockscar while smiling. "Hey this plane vaporized about 60,000 of our countryman"
Japs don't seem to have much of a problem with it.
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>>75252363
But we did
>Killing Japanese didn't bother me very much at that time... I suppose if I had lost the war, I would have been tried as a war criminal.... Every soldier thinks something of the moral aspects of what he is doing. But all war is immoral and if you let that bother you, you're not a good soldier.
-Curtis Lemay
>>75246878
fucking ayy lmaos
>>75246877
there was a american propaganda campaign that last a few decades that boomers had been exposed to.
allegedly the japs had been training their children to roll under tanks to place explosives in the event of a land invasion and had been training the women to use farming tools to fight off soldiers... who would have guns
the american government was forced into a corner by the american media a while ago and even though it was brief it was admitted that the japanese not directly involved in the war where just going to work and school at the time. cleaning houses then boom
>>75246877
Maybe the nips should have thought about that before they decided to slam their kamikaze asses into our military base.They would have kept sending more of their men to die a meaningless death if America hadn't bombed the shit out of them.
>>75246877
Eat shit.
We're still handing out purple hearts made in preparation for a land invasion of Japan.
Plus don't forget instead of salting the earth of that God forsaken land we took only two cities. Then we came in American dollars and rebuilt it for you.
>>75246877
>>75246878
fuck off space nigger
>>75253407
Shit I forgot about him I stand corrected haha
>>75247692
>Hiroshima and Nagasaki were war crimes
Name a nation involved in World War II that didn't kill civilians enmasse.
There wasn't one. "Collateral Damage" wasn't something that was cared about. It was total war.
Grow the fuck up
>>75249337
Sadism
Noun
Origin: 1885-90; < French sadisme; see Sade, -ism
>>75254015
>the concept didn't exist before the adjective
Arguing with Americans is a tiresome experience
ITT:
People that are mad about how good they have it in the world today and like to pretend they know how the world could have been better because they said so.
Most Japanese really like America and don't blame them, to this day. The ones that are the loudest seem to be the ones that have no stake in any of it.
>>75250304
>Gee it's certainly not due to colonial wars fueled by Americano-Russian anti-colonial sprees.
>Wahhh the mean modern empires wouldn't let us rape Africa anymore!
>>75254253
the brutal end of colonization fucked Africa up more than colonization ever did
I bet all these babies in this thread with yurofag flags bitching about america aren't even european natives.
>>75254225
If you were a Jap you couldn't hate America. They took that country into the 21st century and all parties benefitted for decades.
Besides I'm sure not all of them were too rapped with the 2000 year old system of monarchy they had set up
>>75247052
The Japs tried to surrender three times you retard, the bomb was a display for the Soviets.
>>75248081
>a Frenchman lecturing me about sadistic 20th century warfare
Don't you have millions of soldiers to send wave after wave of into the meat grinders of the Marne, Ypres, and Verdun for years on end before your retarded generals realize that sending division after division of young men to their certain deaths on suicide missions isn't such a grand idea?
>>75246877
>>"Many American people said to me, 'Congratulations, you could come here thanks to the bombing! Without the bombing you would have to do hara-kiri, you know, commit suicide."
>>75246877
take your beta rays somewhere else murica's hat.
Hiroshima was a good shoot, Nagasaki was a good shoot plus warning to the soviets.
>>75246877
Checked, but it did save a lot of AMERICAN lives. Including potentially both of my grandfathers lives. If Japan had not surrendered we would have invaded Japanese mainland and damn that would've been insane.
>>75255052
I dunno, the French early in the war were screwed over with military hardware.
French logic: We don't need artillery because we can fight more mobile then!
We don't need metal helmets the war will be won before troops can use them.
But to their credit the French were quicker on tactics than our beloved Field Marshall Douglas Haig. They just had a lot more troops to throw into a meat grinder.
>>75246877
Is this the same UcucK citizen who posts this faggotry every single day?
We should have just left you to the Nazis.
>>75246877
>Keiko Ogura
>Keik
Japs confirmed for being kikes
>>75255030
They tried to surrender on thier terms and keep thier prewar empire our terms were unconditional surrender they choose not to we defeated them with the bombs and showed russia we had a big old fat club to hit them with the letter sent to Truman by the Japanese empire was no fucking surrender reginald it is who you is retarded
>>75247464
Not an argument
>>75246878
You die first in Independence Day 2.
>>75247464
wheres the rebuttal?
We committed a great evil to stop war all together.
>>75254159
Why? because you realise how stupid you are?
>>75246877
Ok fucker, consider this:
The military always wants to use the best weapons we have.
Nukes are a political tool.
Can you imagine what the world would look like if we had the cold war and we didn't know what a nuke could do to a city and a population?
The destruction of the Japanese was absolutely necessary for the survival of all vertebrate life on this planet.
The red pill is an uncomfortable truth.
>>75252167
What the fuck do we need to open our eyes to fucking retarded french I swear you fucks were still shitting in the streets in the fucking 80's
>>75248232
>Cool, can i blame you for atrocities during the french revolution
At least that was against their own people you retard.
>>75246877
Dc native here. It is literally the best museum if you are a nerdy kid. Get the freeze-dried neapolitan ice cream from the gift shop. I hope they still display the space station capsule and the Cray supercomputer but they don't have a ton of room in D.C. Also, they still show To Fly at the Imax and always have. They moved the more controversial planes out to Dulles, VA to a hangar and I took my whole family.
Japan deserved to get nuked more, nanking alone should be worth like 5.
>>75246877
America is a big country.
Some of them are assholes. A larger proportion mean well are but are stupid.
I think every "real redpilled" thinking human beeing, that is from the EU, should leave this board. It does not make sense anymore. USrael is so brainwashed, you can't even call that brainwashing anymore. Its just the "believe it".
So guys, I don't know you are doing, but I'm looking out from now on for a German or EU /pol/, chan boards are literally a joke with this USA beeings.
>>75246877
We will nuke you next time around you fucking brit cucks and we will laugh while doing it.
Fuck them and fuck you. If they didn't like being fire bombed into oblivion and nuked they shouldn't have spent a decade gassing innocent Chinese and then blowing up our ships.
You people are the brainwashed ones Zog Jewish propaganda fed to you by msm that is. You clearly have no idea what the real world is like.
Fuck off
This thread is amazing. I never knew that the French were infected by nigger tier dinduism
Did the war not end? You fucking dummies were picking up the pieces of the country you handed over to the nazis. Don't start about how we closed the second theater, after we closed the first for you.
>muh nukes!
Honestly, what difference does it make if it was one bomb or 300,000 conventional bombs. We were going to have to stuff it up the Japanese empire's ass one way or the other. They wanted to fight until the end. And once the mushroom clouds showed up, they suddenly decided that life might be worth living instead of having children with hand grenades in each hand swarming invading marines in human waves
>>75256484
This.
Add Singapore
Hong Kong
Malay
and Shanghai on top
All this butthurt over what some huffpo tier whiny jap said about what some burger tier American said to them while visiting the Ebola gay.
Ignore the frog. He's full of shit. Those guys were ready to launch plutons on Egypt and send ASAMPS into Chad. France has come closer to tactics nuclear release than any other nation.
https://youtu.be/hRHhPNzQXHI
Even cuck Obama doesn't appologize for Hiroshima. Not sorry in the slightest.
>>75257198
M8, ever heard of "Real proud heroes do not the same as their villains"
Disgusting UK nigger. Join the Islam and get your 72 IT department virgins already. Good lord
Shows only that you're the same as niggers & rapefugees.
>>75256703
Could you be specific?
Or is this just a >hurrr burgers are stupid
Shitposting?
>>75257350
Obama's address was pretty fucking good.
>>75251009
On both sides, it would have been a total bloodbath. The Nuke reduced the casualties significantly, we were already claiming countless lives from the firebombings, and we wanted the war to end before it escalated further.
We gave them a chance to disarm and stop the fighting, but they chose to soldier on, so we had no recourse but to use the Nukes.
>>75246877
It was the inevitable conclusion of the technological arms race of the world wars. Maximum destruction for minimum personal responsibility and so moral responsibility is difficult. For example do you blame the inventor, the engineer, the pilot, the state? Everyone was heavily into the same arms race, the Americans just won it.
The debate should be about the methods of war, not who is to blame and we might start to make progress away from anonymous mass killing.
>>75252233
It's pathetic, ain't it? Read up on the Louisiana purchase.
>>75248482
>mfw burgers don't know about Carolus Rex
>>75247692
>nuclear weapons are a war crime
>France has nuclear weapons
Better hand then over Pierre.
>>75253274
These endless French excuses are extremely nourishing
>>75258993
I don't think you get it
We don't CARE
>>75259306
That's literally not what I said.
You can commit a war crime with a butter knife, doesn't mean they're banned.
Except in England.
>>75247583
What the fuck are you talking about?
Iwo Jima was a shit hole in the middle of nowhere and the defenders were suicidal fanatics. Imagine the Japanese homeland?
Japanese stats from the battle:
17,845-18,375 dead and missing
216 taken prisoner
~3,000 in hiding
216 taken prisoner.
Why am I discussing war with a fucking Swede. You bent over for Gerry. Just like Ahmed.
>>75259866
>You can commit a war crime with a butter knife
Are you sure you arent British?
>>75248948
Like the Kungtong Army, the Emperor was only a god until people actually heard him speak.
Imagine if "God" was the president and we never heard him speak. Then one day he did and he talked like Shakespeare with Gilbert Godfried's voice?
white people dindu nuffin
Plenty of angry ghosts all over Southeast Asia begged for those bombs, Japan. They were pure heat representing the rage of the raped, mutilated and murdered. You brought them upon yourselves.
>>75257415
Real German heroes just bend over and take the cock in their tummy, huh? WWII wasn't a comic book or video game.
>>75247692
Didnt we drop leaflets telling people to evacuate the cities? Not our fault they ignored it
>>75247052
The Japanese wanted to disarm themselves and keep all of the territory that they captured.
>>75246877
>>75247052
>>75247464
>>75247583
They made so many purple hearts for the invasion that they're still being given out 70 years later.
>>75246877
Sorry ayy lmao, but those dirty Japs deserve everything that happened to them and worse. As you can see, everything turn out for the better, for us.
>>75249481
>The only question was whether it was going to be 2 planes with 2 atomic bombs, or 20,000 planes with 2,000,000 conventional bombs.
This. The US only recently (last 5 yrs) started making bomb casings again. All those bombs in Korea, Vietna, Iraq, and Afghanistan were originally built for Japan.. they had new explosives loaded in them, and lately guidance noses bolted on. And even then it's only the smaller 250lb bombs that we've run out of, we've still got plenty of 2000lb bombs.
Japan was fucked either way. The atomic bombs simply made it crystal clear just how fucked they were.
>>75251910
>Except according to the Frenchies in this thread. Hitler was what the people of France wanted at the time.
"Better Hitler than Blum"
>>75248190
>all of which is unrelated to ww2
You're about as cucked as the frog so I'm not surprised
>>75246877
We apologize for finishing the war you started.
Dirty fucking nips.
>>75261772
Nope. The DOD JUST started making new Purple Hearts in 2010 because after almost 70 years after WWII, they were down to the last few thousand of the original batch.
>The board that talks fondly about genocide now draws the line at atomic bombings
Fucking blow me. I only wish we used some of those bombs on Europe too
>>75255189
>>75255189
who is in the gif?
>>75249386
KEK
>All these weebs sucking gook cock and liking it.
>>75246877
Japan deserved it.
You only feel guilty because mr. hikikomura already brainwashed you with his animation franchise.
Also, is this a japanese war crime denial thread?
>>75255780
>>75255780
>Kills osama
>lands on mars
I've got news for you buddy.....
>Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Tokyo
VS
>Nanking, Batan, institutionalized rape and slavery of Koreans
>>75246877
So what? I'm one of those brainwashed idiots who thinks it was necessary. I hope it becomes necessary again somewhere else in the world .
I can't help but think of pearl harbor and the old American proverb
"don't start nothin', won't be nothin'"
>>75263403
Osama is alive on Mars?
>>75246878
FUCKING SPACE NIGGERS NEED TO GET OUT OF THE MILKY WAY!
japan should have surrendered. They didn't, and got bombed. Case closed.
>>75262961
I wish Patton had his way and they were used on the Soviets. Wasn't there like 6 planes loaded up in west Germany good to go at one point after the war?
>>75246878
MT. AYY LMAO IS THE END NIGH?
>>75263386
Yes
>>75263798
If you mean buried in Canada possibly in 2001 when he died of kidney failure as reported in a 2001 Pakistany newspaper which got some women in a middle eastern government chick shot for trying to expose it.
>>75246877
Why can't the japs apologize to China or Korea? Why can't they apologize for the Bataan death march or the rape of Nanking?
>>75253734
Nice proxy.
Anyway, Japan shows the difference in results between invading a country willing to go to irregular warfare even post-invasion and using conventional forces vs. literally obliterating a few spots to make a point.
Nukes resulted in Japan. Conventional invasion has gotten us Afghanistan and Iraq.
>>75263829
>America should have surrendered. They didn't, and got boinged. Case closed.
>>75256445
Yeah. Do get out to the annex if you can when visiting. It's got a lot of things worth seeing.
>>75246877
Kek at the butt blasted yuros in this thread :3
Enjoy your muslims.
>>75248081
look up Operation Olympic
then come back and discuss
you need to curb your self-righteousness within the context of history
>>75246878
Ain't even mad senpai ayyyyyo where you from?
>>75264274
>bomb to end a war
vs
>bomb to start a war
Cased closed
>>75246877
>>75246878
>Mystery flag
>No ID
moot?
>>75264725
Who?
>>75264162
the japs still do not feel guilt or shame over their actions
the nukes were justified and well-implemented against a monstrous enemy
>>75264725
>>75264806
I'm guessing it's either moot or Hiroyuki, otherwise known as Hiroshima Nagasaki.
No one has said a word about OP having no ID.
>>75264670
But jews won that day.
>>75264975
Goy, the Jews always win.
>>75246878
Ayys please go.
