>The possibility that we earthlings are not truly alone in the universe has gained some added credibility, thanks to a new study that coincides with NASA's recent planetary discoveries. The research, published in the journal Astrobiology last week, suggests that more planets in the Milky Way galaxy may harbor advanced civilizations than we previously imagined.
>Study co-authors Adam Frank and Woodruff Sullivan looked at recent discoveries of potentially habitable exoplanets and considered the odds of whether sophisticated civilizations existed on them in the past or present.
>Frank says the potential number of planets orbiting their parent stars within a habitable distance is staggering.
>"Even if you are pretty pessimistic and think that you'd have to search through 100 billion (habitable zone) planets before you found one where a civilization developed, then there have still been a trillion civilizations over cosmic history!" Frank wrote. "When I think about that, my mind reels -- even if there is just a one in a 100 billion chance of evolution creating exo-civilizations, the universe still has made so many of them that we are swamped by histories other than our own".
>In their Astrobiology paper, Frank and Sullivan write:
>"Recent advances in exoplanet studies provide strong constraints on all astrophysical terms in the Drake equation. We set a firm lower bound on the probability that one or more technological species have evolved anywhere and at any time in the history of the observable universe."
>The two scientists address what they refer to as "the cosmic frequency of technological species."
>"The universe is more than 13 billion years old," Sullivan, of the astronomy department and astrobiology program at the University of Washington, said in a statement. "That means that even if there have been 1,000 civilizations in our own galaxy, if they live only as long as we have been around -- roughly 10,000 years -- then all of them are likely already extinct. And others won't evolve until we are long gone.
Bumo
>what's the probability of life arising out of inanimate matter?
>"no fuckin idea"
>what's the probability of life in the universe
>"100%! YOU'D HAVE TO BE IGNORANT TO THINK WE'RE THE ONLY ONES IN THE UNIVERSE!"
Would finding aliens be a "/pol/ BTFO" moment?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox
Do the aliens support trump?
>>75221406
We're so good at dealing with separate races, religions, and nationalities. Aliens will be no problemo, sempi.
>>75221406
>tfw you wont get wipe out a single one of these trillion civilizations for God Emperor Trump
>>75223296
Depends. If the first thing they ask us is 'do you know about our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?' then no.
>>75223227
Pretty much. Combine with what is testable
>Trillions of technologically advances species!
We would expect SOMETHING to contact us
>No technologically advances species but us
would would expect nothing to contact us
Which is the Universe we live in?
It's a false dilemma, of course, but it's to demonstrate the point; we have no clue. These papers are meaningless.
>>75223482
Gas the greys! Species war now!
>>75221406
Why has there been so much alien shit in the news and on TV recently? Also how Obama and crooked Hillary were talking about it.
>>75221406
Found it
the universe is sterile, to an empiricist.
50 years of straight radio silence. every rock we've ever scanned has been void of any kind of life. these people are cultists, not scientists
>>75223296
No. All of the smart ones here know aliens exist.
And I'm not talking about the Mexican kind.
>>75223684
>universe is fuckhuge
>look for 50 years
Guys, there's nothing!
>>75223651
This. It does seem like a bit more than usual. On the other hand, it does seem to pop up every time a candidate is running for the White House/president is leaving after 2 terms.
>tfw dinosaurs exist in other galaxies
>>75223648
If there is a species war, we are fucked unless the other species has more retards and SJWs than us.
Remember when these threads would just get flooded with a bunch of "ayyy lmao" responses? I miss those times.
>>75223633
Maybe we're like ants to them and they see no reason to communicate
>>75223810
Fucking chimp give me that food it looks delicious
Space niggers GTFO
>>75223877
You are like an ant to me.
The red pill is we are alone
>>75223856
What if they are debating right now what to do with us and the only thing preventing annihilation is ayy lmao SJWs?
Damn, I really made me think...
>>75223898
Why am I not surprised at your flag, Wang?
>>75223856
>unless the other species has more retards and SJWs than us.
If that was the case, there wouldn't be a species war.
They'd be sitting on their asses saying humans dindu nuffin while we rape their females and steal their shit.
>>75223762
Until proven otherwise, there is indeed nothing out there.
>>75223810
God damn that looks good.
Makes you wonder why they don't attempt more contact.
There's only 1 place where people are truly forbidden to go. Prisons
>>75223648
>Gas the greys! Species war now!
AYYY LMAO
>>75221406
What if some of the people we share the internet with are actually from other planets?
>>75223877
Yeah think of it this way:
We know Ants exist on our planet, right?
We know ants make anthills, right?
Would you travel across the world, by plane / boat / car / etc., to a different continent, walk in the jungle for days on end, find an anthill and then mess it up with a large poking stick?
That's basically what we are to aliens. They really don't have any gain to travel eons across the universe and poke us with a stick.
>>75223963
Likely, people simply cant fathom the randomness of human existence, think of all the luck it took
>>75223856
They won't. We can't even get to the moon anymore. If they can get here, then they have irradicated the genes that cause so much cognitive dissonance.
>>75224090
Damn really makes u think.
>>75221406
>trillion alien civilizations with hundreds of trillions of alien religions
How can theistcucks still defend their faith?
>>75223227
>what's the probability of life in the universe
I assure you, there is a 100% chance of life existing in the universe.
>>75224090
thats preposterous. why would we hide from you?
>>75224045
They probably do contact us but our tech is so primitive that it cannot detect them at all.
>>75223948
Japan please
>>75221406
>the universe still has made so many of them that we are swamped by histories other than our own
IN THIS UNIVERSE WE THOUGHT OURSELVES ALONE, SPECIAL. WE WERE WRONG. WE AND ALL OUR HISTORY TOGETHER ARE BUT A SINGLE GRAIN OF SAND IN AN ENDLESS BEACH. SO WE DECIDED IF WE ARE NOT BORN SPECIAL, WE SHALL MAKE OURSELVES TO BE SO.
AND SO WE CRUSHED THE GRAINS AROUND US, IT WAS LONG AND HARD, AND THEY BEGGED AND PLEADED TO NOT DO SO, BUT WE HAD NO CHOICE, EITHER WE ARE THE ONLY GRAIN OF SAND, OR WE DO NOT EXIST AT ALL. SOON, OUR GRAIN GREW TO A PEBBLE, AND THE OTHER GRAINS TREMBLED AND FEARED US, BUT WE WERE STILL A SINGLE PEBBLE ON A BEACH. SO WE GREW LARGER STILL, WE BECAME A STONE, THE SIZE OF A FIST. THAT FIST SMASHED AND SMASHED UNTIL IT BECAME A BOULDER. THAT BOULDER CRUSH AND CRUSHED UNTIL IT HAD FOUND IT HAD BECOME A MOUNTAIN. THE BEACH WAS STILL THERE, AS ENDLESS AS EVER, BUT ACROSS THE ENTIRE THING, ALL GRAINS COULD LOOK UP AND SEE THE MOUNTAIN.
HAIL THE EMPEROR OF MANKIND. HAIL THE RACE OF MANKIND.
>>75224159
Spotted the ayy lmao.
>>75221406
Trillions of planets with intelligent life but they are all humans.
>>75223988
>Wang
I'm turbo white blonde hair blue eyes master race, sorry friend but I'm not a slant-eye.
Only white aliens are advanced enough tho
>>75223633
On any given day, data from beyond the Voyagers could come pouring in. That would be absolute confirmation.
>>75223633
It's more of a risk scenario. We're fine if there's no life, but what if there is a superpredator alien species that wipes out any potential threats and here we are broadcasting ourselves to the galaxy.
>>75221406
>possibility
>suggests
>may
>potentially
>potential number
:^)
>>75224000
>Until proven otherwise, there is indeed nothing out there
yikes
>>75223296
No only Christfags are dumb enough to think we are alone and special in the galaxy
Or what if the KANGZ are getting ready to return after thousands of years among the stars.
THAT would be THE /pol/ BTFO moment.
>>75223684
>universe is almost 14,000,000,000 years old
>there are around 100,000,000,000 stars in our galaxy alone
>it is almost 10,000 light years wide
>the nearest star to us is still 4.4 light years away
>we've been passively listening to radio signals in a very tiny chunk of sky for 50 years
>so far haven't gotten much
Welp, pack it up boys. There's no empirical evidence
>>75223651
I'm guessing because it's low hanging fruit for the marketing Jew for the ratings cycle. The reality alien TV shows which have killed the novelty of reporting about aliens have been out of the limelight for a while now. That, or society is so depressed and in search of the belief of going somewhere else than here, anywhere else but here.
>>75224140
The history of life on this planet is primarily single-celled. So even with life arising, it took quite a while to get anywhere.
I don't think people really appreciate just how huge the universe is.
The Milky Way Galaxy, alone, has something like a billion stars within it, iirc. Just for some perspective: if you were to count from 1 to 1 billion -- at an interval of 1 second per number -- it would take you over 30 years.
And, not only that, but there are millions of other galaxies, each with millions of stars within them, with billions of planets, etc.
To think we've even scraped the surface is just dumb.
>>75224289
We'd win the galactic Darwin Award.
>>75221406
The thought that I'll never experience the discovery of any of these planets is depressing.
>>75223684
>every rock we've ever scanned has been void of any kind of life
Not even true. There have been strong signs of microbial life on Mars.
>>75224400
Our oceans are made of water that came from interstellar space meaning alien life is real, heck there are aliens in our solar system right now in the oceans of the gas giant moon.
>>75224456
Shit like this makes me wish I could do LCD, shrooms or something. I feel like I'm missing out of a perspective those substances help with.
>>75224000
>thinks 50 years through space is a long time
>>75223877
I've always thought that earth was some alien kid's school project he just let's keep going
>>75224649
I think meditation can help get you there.
thats pretty cool
> if there have been 1,000 civilizations in our own galaxy, if they live only as long as we have been around -- roughly 10,000 years -- then all of them are likely already extinct. And others won't evolve until we are long gone.
oh
>>75223684
>Hey guys we scanned a few rocks out of infinity this clearly means there is no life whatsoever.
>>75224456
> like a billion stars within it
More like 200-400 billion.
>>75224045
No it doesn't. Any species out there advanced enough to travel through the stars, assuming we've been discovered by such a species, knows that the majority of us are stupid and scared enough to try and go to war with something we don't understand because it might potentially threaten our perceived power over the planet. Can you imagine how the Jews, the people whose one true belief is that they are the chosen ones ordained by God and everyone else is made to serve, would react to such a potential threat to authority?
>>75224639
Water is the remnants of a horrific war that took place between intensely sophisticated alien nations on Earth before us.
>>75224744
Exactly Rico
I wonder if the reason why we haven't been contacted is because they just don't give a shit. Like imagine you lived in a world where interacting among alien species was the norm. Traveling to different worlds as part of your job. Like something in startrek or some shit.
Now, you know theres thousands of civilizations like this. Would you really give a damn about a civilization like ours? Where we haven't even started to spread ourselves outside of our solar bubble? Theres literally no need for aliens to be interested in what we do on earth.
>>75221406
None of this even matters because the Earth is flat you fucking retards.
>>75224587
Dont fret, our species will likely be wiped out before any alien life is discovered
What do we do if FTL is just impossible and the distances are just too big for any meaningful communication? I want to have sex with an alien.
>>75224744
That's precisely how science works, dipshit
>>75224859
Jews are batshit insane they think they are the chosen even after science proves they are just nothing special humans.
>>75224326
Christfags should be some of the strongest believers of transdimensional beings
Religious texts of all types speak of humanoid beings emanating from fucking light. Probably not even metaphorically, but possibly even literally.
To travel at the speed of light, you probably have to become light.
>>75224700
Let's hope an Earth year is milliseconds in their time...
>>75224000
So you don't exist?
>>75224597
>Fishies and buggies
Ayyylmao
>>75224990
>sample size of 0%
lol, science
>>75221406
>Humans hate other "humans" that they're almost nearly identical with besides a few differences
>Everyone's cumming themselves for aliens to visit us
It'll be cool for three minutes then everyone's going to hate the space niggers.
>>75224990
Are you pretending to be retarded?
>>75224400
Dam beat me to it. Also whats to say a alien species hasnt made a diffrent form of communication instead of radio signals.
>>75224045
>inb4 our first contact happens with space jews trying to overtake earth jews
>>75221406
>>>/x/
Or they may number in the 0.
Until we meet one it's all speculation.
Sage.
>>75224000
If a tree falls in the forest, and there's no one near to hear it, does it make a sound
>>75221406
>well, based on my personal assumptions, this is what I think the universe might be like
That's not how science works. Right now there's 0 evidence for any alien civilizations, therefore the only reasonable assumption would be that there are no alien civilizations. That doesn't mean that there are none or that you're saying it's impossible for alien civilizations to exist, just that there's 0 evidence for one despite looking for said evidence for decades.
>>75224400
earth being 4 billion years old makes the 14 billion year old universe seem young
>>75224090
>>75224153
its true
>>75224915
They dont exist
Or
We are more advanced than them
>>75223686
>Mexican aliens
You mean the cumbia of the marcianito?
>>75223633
>We would expect SOMETHING to contact us
its impossible, theres a limit on what can be communicated through space. that doesnt rule out other civilizations. not an argument fagt
>>75223867
ayy lmao
>>75221406
tfw we as a planet get colonized and caught up in next intergalactic war
>>75224990
Retard
>>75225159
Yes it does because hearing is nothing more than your brain making you perceive the vibrations that already exist.
>>75225224
>well guys i looked at this leaf and theres nothing on it guess that means the amazon rainforest is totally devoid of life
>>75225224
We don't need evidence for alien civilizations, we just need evidence for civilizations. And we have that: us.
Our existence proves the chances for life to develop on a planet and form a civilization is >0%.
>>75224223
Poo in loos are getting delusional
>>75223684
Do you know what the interstellar medium does to radio signals?
Do you realize practically the only significant electromagnetic events we can pick up from other galaxies are incredibly powerful events like active galactic cores and gamma ray bursts?
>millions of potential species with optimism and curiosity for knowledge have probably all looked to the stars waiting to be contacted just as we are
>every single one of them died out not knowing or living long enough to find out
We're all on our own sinking ship too far away to hear each others screams
if aliens have the technology to reach us they have the technology to torture us permanently
>>75225224
Cringe. Just stop, you sound like a retard.
>>75225394
Maybe for earth yes but other planets could be different from ours, just add some oxygen and life on earth would become super.
>>75225262
Or they observed us. Realised are warmongering ways and tendancy to lash out at things we dont understand and black listed us. Mfw across the unoverse we are one of the many voilent and choatic species that is blacklisted from knowing about the others. The universe is full of liberals.
>>75224215
spotted the mouth breathing retard who actually believes, with a straight face, that his shit tier species is the only thing that could exist in this, or any universe.
Your statement screams autism.
>>75225148
If Zachariah Stichen was correct in his interpretations of ancient Sumerian clay tablets, that's basically what was happening a long time ago.
They engineered/altered us for the purpose of mining gold for them.
>>75221406
>May Number
>May
Millions of planets may also be made out of cookies and milk with moons made of cheese.
>>75223227
Abiogenesis isn't theoretically uncommon in the context of the universe, it just dies out commonly.
>>75225262
Although doubtful, we may be the smarter ones in this galaxy. If we put aside our tribal ways, we may exist long enough to be the aliens to other life forms pondering why aliens haven't visited them yet.
>>75224133
another shit argument, there are biologists that would do just that so the answer is yes if it were my profession/interest
>>75223296
This
If the galaxy is teeming with sentient life, where the fuck are they? Even old radio broadcasts from dead civilizations, something
>>75225266
You started on that wall yet, Pedro?
These guys are talking at a universal scale. Not galactic.
>>75223482
But what if they have alien niggers themselves?
>>75225528
My joke screams autism? Either you have the wrong person a (you) or you just sperged out about a joke and then projected hard about autism.
>>75225609
Did you check?
>>75225660
Radio broadcast cant make it past a light year retard.
>>75225643
well even on earth life has existed for millions of years, it took a few extinctions for humans to evolve
if the dinosaurs were never wiped out, an intelligent species might have never evolved
>>75221406
>innumerable star systems
>possible trillions of alien civilizations
wow you dont say
>>75224133
most likely. what do we know about nature? there are those that adapt and survive and there is a hierarchy. what are eternally adapted to our plant and what are the change we occupy even the first %20 of other planets in harshness of environments. our buff was speed to tech and we're wasting it
>>75225712
dat savagery
i'm mirin
Gas the ayys, space war now!
>Age of the universe: ~13 billion years
>Time Earth has harbored civilized life: ~12,000 years
>Time we have had the technology to actively and effectively seek signs of intelligent life: ~20 years
>Stars in the Milky Way Galaxy: 100-400 billion
>Planets in the Milky Way Galaxy: At least 100 billion
>Galaxies in the Universe: 100-200 billion
>Diameter of the Observable Universe: 93 billion light-years
T-there's nothing out there guys
>>75222557
>That means that even if there have been 1,000 civilizations in our own galaxy, if they live only as long as we have been around -- roughly 10,000 years -- then all of them are likely already extinct. And others won't evolve until we are long gone.
That's just a random, unscientific number pulled out of a hat though -- strikes me as disgusting arrogance to assume we're the apex of civilization.
>>75225644
Aliens abduct the occasional person / farm animal but they don't destroy entire cities.
Aliens actually have a deal or contract with the US government, they are allowed to abduct a certain number of people and perform experiments on them.
>>75225792
Underrated
>>75221406
the earth is flat you retards
Inb4 billions of years ago our race was a super power of the universe and ruled with a iron fist. There was a huge war and when we were defeated instead of killing all of us they mind wiped and sent us to earth. They are keeping us in our own little box. Waiting for the day they may need us to help them stop another great terror to the universe.
>>75224482
I honestly believe there are planets of solid gold more than i believe aliens are real
>>75226023
This. Occam's Razor makes this the most logical explanation.
>>75225750
http://www.planetary.org/blogs/emily-lakdawalla/2012/3390.html?referrer=https://www.google.com/
???
I'm not saying we could pick up alien HBO, but waves put out from satellites would propagate basically forever.
Did all the aliens never invent radio?
>>75225100
MANDALORIAN colonies for the MANDALORIANS, JAWA colonies for the JAWA, HUMAN colonies for EVERYONE. Everyone says there is a SPECIES problem. Everybody says that this SPECIES problem will only be solved when the Far-Outsiders pour into EVERY human colony and ONLY human colonies.
They say they are anti-xenophobic. What they really are is Anti-human. Anti-Xenophobic is a code word for Anti-human
>>75226075
Carbon-rich stars leave behind stellar remnants that are literally diamonds
>>75225690
>suggests that more planets in the Milky Way galaxy may harbor advanced civilizations than we previously imagined
>>75225751
Do you think those conditions have been met even 10 times on 10 different planets?
>>75221406
>Given an infinite amount of time, and through sure probability, you have already died and existed trillions of years ago.
>Your life is just a repeat of already told tale.
>>75226201
>Reading comprehension
>>75225979
No it isn't.
>>75225849
>There's a billion million aliens on a billion planets
Then where are they? A single alien civilization a few hundred years more advanced than we are could Colonize the galaxy fairly quickly. So why can't I eat breakfast with a glibglorb if the universe is teeming with life?
>>75226313
I understood what you were implying but I'm not going to let an opportunity to say how fucking nuts space is slip.
>>75224158
Deism/theism isnt singular towards a species in that case.... Theoretically... Multiple religions has nothing to do with the exsistance or lack of, of a higher, ultimate being...
>>75226105
There being nothing else out there explains more with less.
>>75223470
>>75223227
I AM SILLY
>>75226215
Not really you need meteor or serious volcanic events to cause the mass extinctions that occured on this rock, mass extinctions also accelerate evolution by removing competition, the extinction of our hominid brothers allowed us humans to conquer the world.
>>75226075
There are planets of solid gold, gold is very common in earth and universe.
Aliens are either very common or very rare, we dont know enough yet.
Imagine 2 families of cave dwellers from Neanderthal times. One family is at the southern end of Argentina, the other is in South Africa. No one from either group will meet the other before the species dies out, but they both inhabit the same planet.
>>75223588
Underrated post
>>75226405
No such thing as nothing the universe is mostly something called dark energy and dark matter its full of stuff, intangible stuff that influences matter.
>>75226277
>given an infinite amount of time
[citation needed]
>>75221406
>not posting the real version
>>75223588
Would love to see this happen
>>75221406
>falling for the galactic jew
I hope you lot realize shit like this can only lead to maximum cosmo-cultural enrichment
You are gonna get so cucked that human babies will start to grow a little skin-cage for the penis
>>75224158
Easy, we haven't found any other life yet. And even if we find bacteria (or alien animals even) until we find sapient life we're pretty much in the clear.
>>75226515
Given the context of the discussion, "nothing" is in reference to technologically advanced species.
>>75226577
>Tfw alien ship has "church of latter day saints" bumper sticker
>>75224696
Who took the photo of the universe hotshot?
Civilizations that exist at our juncture between high technology and low consciousness are vanishingly rare. We should not expect to be contacting anyone by radio.
>>75223684
The Wow Signal. We got one SOS over one million years away.
>>75224999
It won't be just to Jews. If aliens contacted us we'd have every religion clamoring to either justify themselves by rewriting their own rules, or by outright denying the existence of aliens even if they were walking down the street.
>>75224158
>>75226403
this last guy has the clue
scientifically speaking (yes, scientifically) there is an ultimate law and that law is god, no matter what universe or paralel reality you come from
if you still believe in talking gods and jesus then im sorry, but the very reality that our universe's laws can be described by equations means that there is one algorithm out there that results in universes growing, expressing that algorithm in math or whatever language is literally speaking the name of god
now please some 15 yo Canadian tell me im a fag so the thread can keep going after this massive redpill i just dropped
>>75226735
>>75221406
>NASA
That's some great social engineering and public consumption science right there.
There are simply too many ufos in our skies for them to all be ours.
So what's the answer to the Fermi paradox?
Read this if you believe in this ayy lmao shit. This alien stuff is nothing more than a propaganda psy-ops and it's been getting shilled hard on /pol/ lately.
>>75226144
>>75226144
>>75226144
>>75226144
>>75226144
>>75225881
>That's just a random, unscientific number pulled out of a hat though
even if we have some >2000 years left of technological development before we merge into the 4th dimension (given uninterrupted exponential progress of technology and the limits of physics itself), the odds of two civilizations existing concurrently so one can observe another from millions of light years away (let alone contact it), in a galaxy 13 billion of years old, is pretty narrow
Aliens dome exist. Sentient aliens anyway.
We are made in God's image, the universe is the size it is as a testament to His power and because He wants us to colonize space one day in the future.
Every time I see a gaytheist arguing about how the Drake equation should have metted us some proof and ita not fair I laugh at their ignorance.
Dont be afraid, my brothers in Christ, we will watch our descendants bend stars to their will and spread across the sku from Heaven. Exciting stuff.
>>75224159
well yeah, here on Earth
>>75226748
your mom
>>75226884
Even the bible/torah and kabbalic writings describe God allegorically as formless and beyond human comprehension... The driving force behond reality and unreality... Litterally undeniable but what people get hung up on is "le sky daddy" meme that has been shilled and shilled against for millenia
>>75227147
People who plan to live to see second coming are out of their minds. Itll be billions of generations
>>75226884
Universalism is a Jewish idea. Ancestor worship is the true Aryan religion. Worship of the cosmic kike leads to centralization which gives the kikes an easier target to infiltrate and destroy, even the Catholic Church fell to the Jew. When a man worships the blood and soil of his people, the Jew is denied a platform to infiltrate.
>>75225881
No, it's a good order-of-magnitude estimate. Human civilization (not human-like beings) of any sort has been around about that long, and we sure ain't sticking around for ~100,000 years in our current form.
Now, as it applies to other civilizations, yeah that's much harder to guess at. For example, if their version of "neurons" operate significantly faster or slower, it could definitely affect their rate of technological progress.
>>75227349
>mother
>fucking
>evangelicals
>pentecostals
>non doms
>majority of protestants
>>75227403
>ancestor worship
>not deism
You fool
>>75226337
>A single alien civilization a few hundred years more advanced than we are could Colonize the galaxy fairly quickly
Not at all. The low-end estimate of the size of our galaxy is one hundred thousand light-years. That's five hundred TRILLION miles from end to end. Traveling at the speed of light, it's a minimum of 100,000 to get from one end to the other, assuming you're going in a straight line.
No, there is no way to travel faster than light.
It takes an incredible amount of energy to make any mass travel at even a significant fraction of the speed of light.
With our current technology it would take six months to go from Earth to Mars at their closest approach - a distance over thirteen million times smaller than the diameter of our galaxy.
Additionally, and I can't stress this enough, there is a shitton of space in space. The nearest star to the Sun is about four light-years away — that's about twenty-four trillion miles. If you're launching something or sending a signal in any random direction, the betting odds are you're not going to hit anything for a long, long time.
>>75227067
That's just the problem, we can't really speculate to any real degree on what the odds are.
>before we merge into the 4th dimension
Not sure what that's about
>>75227452
>No, it's a good order-of-magnitude estimate.
Its kind of an "aliens will look like star trek aliens" bit of argument.
> and we sure ain't sticking around for ~100,000 years in our current form.
The only reason why we couldn't is niggers etc. The chance that the majority of aliens will have alien niggers that they allow to cuck themselves out of existence is low.
>>75227202
i believe the sky daddy is more explainable by the fact that the vatican was an empire at some point, so the bible's words got manipulated a lot to justify political actions, but i think the idea that just because god is a formless being it can't interact with us is not 100% soundproof, therefore there is margin for god to speak to us and care about our stupid issues
i don't believe it is a being though
>>75227403
The only way i can find to worship the cosmic kike, as you call it, is to take good care of my and my people's interests
I do not hold respect for my ancestors just for the sake of them being my ancestors, i need to find in them honor or selfless sacrifice to start respecting them
Luckily i have, not in all, but yes in some, and they form my sort of personal "pantheon"
>>75226215
One-in-a-million odds with forty quadrillion attempts sounds like a safe bet to me.
>>75227601
>No, there is no way to travel faster than light.
But there are ways to traverse those distances.
>With our current technology
With your public consumption technology maybe, but there are ways to get across the gulfs of space.
>>75223633
>>75221406
There's on the order of 10^24 or 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets in the universe. Microbial life definitely exists, and I'm sure we're not the first self aware civilisation. They question which is going to take a while to determine is how often microbial life gets to our level of intelligence
>>75224162
>we
Grey nigga pls.
Space spics git out.
>there were trillions of civilizations and most of them were probably dragged down by nigger and jew equivalents
Let's kill them all, eh
>>75225438
Why did the universe have to end up being this big?
I can't deal with that feel.
>Inb4 we used to be the rulers of the universe with psysicic powers until our home was blown up and turned into what is now the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter and the remaining humans had their powers deactivated, minds erased, and were moved to Earth
THE HUMANS WILL RISE AGAIN
>>75227910
Of course it's traversable, you could launch a rock at our Solar System's escape velocity and it would reach the other end of the galaxy, eventually.
The problem is if you can make a colony ship that's practically its own self-sustaining stable society for potentially tens of thousands of years, what's the point in ever settling?
do you think i can get an alien gf guys?
>>75228123
=( plz no
>>75225148
So basically the plot of They Live.
>>75228308
>getting cucked by DNA greed grays and profound girth tenticle monsters
Thx but no thx
>>75228123
I shudder at the thought of space niggers
>>75227634
>Not sure what that's about
before we get bored of living in 3 dimensions and manage to break out of it which is as far as I can think regarding technological progress
>>75221406
Didn't scientists shoot electricity though a gas and create primitive forms of amino acids? They did the first step in the creation of DNA - thus proving that life was not created by an intelligent being.
>>75224400
Exactly. It's like wading into the first few inches of the ocean for a couple of seconds, only finding water, and then packing up and going home claiming there are no fish in the ocean. We've been searching a fucking miniscule area of the cosmos for a fucking fraction of a cosmic second with technology we invented. To say there's no reason to keep looking after what we've done is shortsighted and stupid.
>>75228579
>intelligent beings create life to prove life was not created by an intelligent being
Wut
>>75224859
kinda like bees in a bee hive. to humans bees are retarded but we usually don't mess with them cuz it still hurts to get stung. the sting won't kill us, but its annoying to not want to go near the retarded bees. We are the retarded bees to the aliens.
>>75228508
I doubt we'd do anything like that in just 2000 years if its possible. In an interstellar empire, you gotta remember, it'll probably take 100-200 years just per trip between star systems.
>>75228579
I'm not a creationist but...
>intelligent beings proved life can't be created by an intelligent being by creating proto-life
>>75228657
SAVAGE
>>75225702
he's right, you're a retard
a living, breathing retard.. in this universe
>>75228657
I was on the other guy's side, but ouch! I am a man of god now.
>>75225948
>Aliens actually have a deal or contract with the US government, they are allowed to abduct a certain number of people and perform experiments on them.
Which ones? Got anything else on that?
>>75226337
There it is, the single most retarded post ever made.
>>75228714
>>75228508
Also, I think the scale of an interstellar civilization is going to be mind numbingly slow. The equivalent of a trucking convoy is going to be manned by pilots who will probably die of old age before they reach their destination to make their great grandchildren wealthy when they get there.
>>75228714
>by creating proto-life mimicking a naturally-occurring phenomenon
>>75227910
stop watching all the sci-fi BS
>>75221406
So if there's been supposedly trillions, or let's just say hundreds or thousands "locally," what's killing them so hard we're not hearing ayylmao supersmooth hyperjazz at SETI?
>>75228260
There are ways to get across those distances much faster than chemical rockets. What the public is aware of is very limited in scope and almost totally controlled.
>>75228961
robots would control the supply lines of any interstellar civilization
humans will probably remain on Earth jerking off on virtual reality, reaping the benefits of endless wealth
>>75221406
Fails to counter the Fermi Paradox.
>humans
>intelligent life
Moshi moshi autism desu
>>75228250
You've played Advent Rising, I see.
>>75229017
Research into technologies that make it possible was started in the 20s and has continued to this day.
To quote Ben Rich, "We have the power to bring ET home today."
>>75224000
False.
Until proven otherwise, you don't know if there's life out there or not.
>>75221406
>I might get a Xeno GF
There may or may not be a god due to these potential findings
>>75225438
>millions of potential species with optimism and curiosity for knowledge
You're retarded if you dont think Ayliems are going to murder us, or exploit us. Diversity isn't a strength its a weakness. Having a bunch of potentially deadly sentient species running around and knowing about your species existence is a recipe for disaster. There is no reason to be altruistic towards other species. Its a losing game.
>>75228999
>mimicking a naturally accuring phenomenon
>implying this changes anything when debating the exaistance of a higher being that in theory created all things out of sheer will
>>75229139
maybe, not sure we'd want to leave all those robots unsupervised
>>75229298
Niggers generally don't make it to outer space, they can't even into normal civilizations. Whatever representatives of a species that make contact are going to be analogous to astronauts and other scientists.
>>75225035
that sounds really kind of painful
>>75229346
It's merely evidence against the Creationist claim that ONLY intelligent design could have created life. It doesn't negate it.
Stop thinking in dychotomies, sheephead.
>>75221406
now factor in that there are at the very least, several dozen layers of other "realities" which are on a different material phase/energy spectrum vastly different from ours, but cohabitating the same vectors of space-time... across the entire Universe.
ayy...
>>75229622
>tfw being transformed in christ
>>75229142
This.
There is something very scary in this universe and we have yet to discover it.
> your face when we still have to be redpilled about the universe.
>>75229680
Didnt mean to knock off your fedora sir
>>75229680
But the creationist argument (not young earth goobers) is that a creator created the universe, not life specifically. If the creator has the ability to Will the universe into existence, than it also has the ability to either force creation of life in a moment or set a chain of events into motion that gives rise to life.
These experiments literally neither prove nor disprove anything beyond the physical.
>>75224289
S U P E R P R E D A T O R
Biologist here. While it is true that life formed almost as soon as the environment allowed it to, there is one major obstacle in the path to multicellular Organisms: organelles. The phagocytosis that formed eukaryotes is so incredibly unlikely that in all of history it only happened once. In a single cell. This might be a too big of an obstacle on other life in the universe.
>>75223574
>tfw whites will no longer be whites because they race mixed by the time we achieve space travel :(
>>75229920
>I shitposted and someone shat on me!
>I better throw him the fedora meme, that'll win me 4chan points!
>>75230004
I'm not claiming those scientists just disproved religion as a whole. They didn't, either. It's just a fact that contradicts one little piece of a whole ideology, and gives us more to think about.
>>75226148
iirc theres a theory that the aliens would use some other sort of signal undetectable to us. comparable to someone trying to pick up a radio signal with a flip phone
>>75225948
who is this semen demon
>>75229201
We really don't, but even if we did it won't matter to anyone on Earth. The addage is "The shortest travel between any two points is two years relative." You accelerate at one G for a year, and deccelerate at one G for a year. You will have a time between at near-luminal velocity where time matters little to the pilot but a navigational computer could manage well. The big problem is that objects at relativistic speeds rapidly gain mass at the same point time dilation occurs, so you need reactionless drives to make any use of it. Which are total bullshit and you need to stop watching former engineers with dementia who play with magnets. It's sad what happened to those guys and you shouldn't validate their delusions.
>>75230197
You brought up an unrelated point in an attempt to be a psuedo intellectual and when confronted you literally called me a "sheephead"
>>75221406
>implying alien life would be anything like life on earth
>>75225534
Why the fuck would they do that when there are asteroids with higher concentrations of gold that could be mined with drones. Hell, you can mine Earth easily with robots that would be a lot cheaper in the long term.
Suffer not the Alien, the Mexican or the Liberal...
>may
>may
>may
>>75230448
You threw out an implying to claim the evidence doesn't disprove anything, I provided something it does disprove. Then you moved the goalposts, claiming it doesn't disprove creationism when I never said it did.
>>75228449
JOHJ
It's called Posadism
Marxists up to their same old tricks
http://www.vice.com/read/posadism-trotskyism-guillermo-almeyra-interview-876
The idea was put forth by these guys
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trotskyism
>>75227349
Are you catholic ? Its going to happen within 10 years .Everyone is losing faith, muslims invading. girls turn in to boys .man are girls because they are giants faggots
the eu is literally the tower of babel in reverse no it is happening
>>75230492
Why did we enslave niggers when we got more productivity per dollar from white debtors?
>>75228714
>intelligent beings proved life can't be created by an intelligent being by creating proto-life
True. With the Miller Urey experiments of the 1950's we created amino acids from a Pre-Cambrian environment, but never life.
>>75225849
>>Time Earth has harbored civilized life: ~12,000 years
Are you fucking stupid?
>>Time we have had the technology to actively and effectively seek signs of intelligent life: ~20 years
>>>>>>>>>>
Fuck off summerfag cancer.
What a shit, reddit tier thread.
Everyone came to this conclusion fucking years ago.
>>75230197
But it doesn't contradict anything about the creationist argument because it doesn't have anything to do with creation of the universe. The only relevance it has to creationism is that it lends to the possibility that the creator made it possible for life to arise without direct input on that matter from the creator. Just because that process is replicable does not mean it holds any bearing on whether or not there is a creator.
>>75223667
KIC 8462852?
>>75228449
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soXkFMO4ixI
