Reminder the Austrian Election was probably the best thing to happen in Europe in years.
For the first time in decades, a far right winger gained about 50% of the vote. That's fucking insane.
People are pissed at this election result. You can bet they'll win next time. People will be tired of the candidate 50% of the population voted for 'Hitler'. People are getting more and more sick of the left's bullshit. The European right has nowhere to go but up.
Seriously, we've made so many gains in the past 3 years its insane. The likes of such dramatic political rise haven't been seen since the Russian Revolution.
>>74936283
>About 50%
And in the next election it'll be 45%, then lower, and lower.
The class and population of people growing at the fastest rate in demographics is the students, the welfare claimers, the immigrants, and all of their offspring. Right wingers and conservatives just don't seem to be having children as much.
It's a tragedy because Hofer wants the best for Austria but fear tactics from the media and EU elite who didn't want him to get elected brainwashed enough people for him to lose the election. We keep telling ourselves we live in a democratic world but the media and whoever is pulling the puppet strings seem to decide every election.
>>74936433
If the immigrant population has been rising, why has the right wing vote been rising?
Because many Men in their mid 20's-80's are becoming more and more pissed off. My Dad voted labour 6 years ago. 3 years ago I convinced him to vote tory, now I've convinced him to vote UKIP. There's still more eligible voters. The Revolution continues.
>>74936433
you're right. This was probably as good as it was going to get.
Oh well, we still have Hungary, Poland, Slovakia, and Russia.
>>74936283
It's not a good indicator if you look at it from a different angle. It means you have half the population, mostly comprised of men and the working class, who are not pleased with the current government. And the other half, comprised mostly of women and university students (the 'non-working' class) that keeps voting left.
There won't be a revolt any time soon, forget it. At 50% you simply lack the legitimacy to go against it, and even if you, they'll claim that "antidemocratic far-right extremism is on the rise" and that would cause a major shitstorm worldwide.
>>74936891
A European Civil War in which citizens of every nation rise up and overthrow their government + A Trump Presidency would work.
Trump would sympathise with the cause and argue 'Let's not intervene like in iraq'. Putin would stand by knowing his competitors are collapsing, and new, less powerful governments who support him will be in place soon. China would ignore it knowing their major competitor, the EU is collapsing.
I seriously think if we could organise a European revolt, we should. The Problem is arming the people and organising it.
I've been saying this about Hillary.
It would actually be better for her or Bernie to win just so we can finally burn this house down instead of prolonging the inevitable.
>>74936283
It was also fixed.
It was also fixed
http://www.krone.at/Oesterreich/146.9_Prozent_Wahlbeteiligung_in_WaidhofenYbbs-Ministeriumspanne-Story-511598
https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13255967_10153888176608591_7523223929999246085_n.jpg?oh=bb1f3550a4a3eda657e6ec1ee8b3a303&oe=57C902D9
https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13232906_10206486740823599_1179409228428313502_n.jpg?oh=fcb8119a684f56861e59f05def7644ee&oe=57E1D1E4
>>74937211
A Trump presidency + European Left in control would be disastrous. Neither would get along and the EU would use it to demonise us, i.e. 'You don't want to be like those stupid Americans!'
Yeah, the right wing is rally Close to take over Power now. They only need to convince women to stop being complete morons and they have won. They already have the men.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10297515
......
>>74936283
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3605648/Knives-Cameron-Dozens-Tories-threaten-no-confidence-vote-PM-s-shabby-Brexit-scaremongering.html
We need this vote of no confidence right fucking now.
We need a coup in this country and all the lefties purged.
>mfw and yfw the cross on those crusader armour plates is the flag of Guernsey
>>74937320
Americans are the only ones left with balls and the will to rebel. We have guns.
You and Europe are cucked beyond help my British brother.
>>74937685
>Americans are the only ones left with balls and the will to rebel
And 3-2-1 you are back in the room.
>>74937685
i pray you are right we need a US with trump or almost the whole western world is set on suicide.
>>74937685
lol....
I've read some funny shit on here but this takes the biscuit, it really does.
Even Sweden has bigger balls than you faggots.
You did nothing after 9/11, nothing after Fort Hood, nothing after San Bernadino.
You're the definition of cowardice and for all your guns you would think you would actually do something.
But no..
Nothing from the land of the "free".
http://pastebin.com/Jb2wb9eM
Oh and check your own nignog and muzzy population you faggot.
>>74936283
>far right
Wew
>>74937685
>Hillary Clinton is elected
>opens borders to 500% more refugees
>They start raping American women and children
>Americans will actually do something about it
>Revolution breaks out
>All mudslimes are either killed, or kicked out of America
>We inspire Europe to do the same
>The next Crusade starts
Say it with me. Deus Vult!
>>74937685
We have no problem with having balls. Most guys around here are willing to fight back. Guns aren't hard to get in London. With some help we may be able to get enough to arm the people.
>>74937819
We're not gonna let the Americans 'save us' again. Europa will stand on it's own once more.
>>74937908
>nothing after 9/11
>Afghanistan and Iraq annihilated
>Osama swimming with the fishes
wew
>>74937908
it's ok britain... we understand
>>74936891
If there was a civil war in Austria you can bet that EU army would finally turn up
>>74937978
>>74937819
Yeah the reason we're in this mess is because we let America "save us".
All this SJW Black lives matter and Muslim loving stems from that shit hole failed abortion of a nation that France helped because the French are retards.
Pic related, average American cuckold family.
>>74938011
>swimming with the fishes
>>74937069
You are a fucking mentalist m8 to actually aspouse an armed revolt
>>74936283
>You can bet they'll win next time
Problem is that, by next time, they might be flooded with niggers that will be able to vote as well.
While the right in Europe has made progress, I don't know if it will be able to make a difference in time.
>>74937908
You mad?
Enjoying your Muslim enrichment yet?
Americans may have been jewed into these wars but the point is we are the war hammer none the less.
Stay mad you tea faggot KEK.
>>74937069
>First it would require your political leaders representing the right-wing parties to strengthen their diplomatic ties specifically with Russia and Israel, exactly as Poland is currently doing. >By earning political support from Russia and Israel you automatically become a big player on the field.
>That's exactly what they're not doing.
>The European Union has sanctioned Russia and Israel countless times, and you could use this negative diplomatic relation between Russia/Israel and the EU to favour your right-wing parties. If these politicians guaranteed allegiance to Russia and Israel (who have very strong diplomatic ties with each other), there could be the possibility to breach in and incite coups, which at this point is the only way to get a right-wing party in charge. If even Austria couldn't do it, I can't think of any other European nation that could, aside from Poland and Hungary.
And you don't have to damage your relations with NATO in order to achieve this goal, specially if Trump is elected. Now seeing from a losing perspective, if Trump is not elected, and how the US holds both political and military influence in Europe, gaining support from Russia and Israel while inciting coups would be a very unlikely scenario.
Right now, at this point, you can forget any possibility of democratically electing and establishing a right-wing government, it's virtually impossible. The above option, which involves illegal methods, would be the only solution to get these people out of your government.
>>74938096
It can happen. The French were armed with jackshit and look at them.
>>74938058
I don't think you do though, because I'm not reading any stories about burning mosques in the USA. Muslims being stabbed and killed stemming from the USA, or shot...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/morden-mosque-fire-two-teenage-boys-arrested-on-suspicion-of-arson-a6668911.html
>>74938011
Oh please, the best you faggots did was attack a Sikh temple.. You've had 7 beheadings by Muslims on your own soil and you've done nothing in retaliation, nothing...
In fact your bullshit antics in Afghanistan and Iraq has caused a mass exodus of shitskins to flow through into Europe because that bowl haircutted cunt Merkel sucks your dick like the good little kike puppet she is.
You're helping destroy whites with your good goyim behaviour.
>>74938096
>You are a fucking mentalist m8 to actually aspouse an armed revolt
wat.jpg
Go back to India, Ranjeet.
>>74938164
Quiet Achmed bin Hamburger.
>>74936283
the best thing are the rumors about the elections being biased, that could be exploited hard
>>74937908
>did nothing
>Saddam and Osama dead, Ba'ath party and taliban shattered, million dead.
>Ft hood shooter in a wheelchair waiting for lethal injection
>San Bernardino shooter both dead
Meanwhile you guys covered up 1400 child sex abuse victims ... Voted a Muslim mayor?
>>74938167
Think Putin would accept supporting an underground coup?
Britain is, despite their close ties to the US, arguably still a world power. 5th Largest Army on Earth, London is the financial capital of the world. After Revolutions economies tend to boom, France took over half of Europe after their revolution, Russia had a short burst of wealth. I think Putin would accept a Revolutionary Britain as an ally.
>>74938064
Damn. Still salty about the revolution? Let it go Nigel, it was almost 250 years ago
>>74938417
The point is . . .you 'The People' . . .did fuck all except hid in your homes and post pictures of guns.
Your 'Tyrannical Government' did all that for you.
>>74938285
That's a very isolated rare example.
>>74938417
>Muslim president
>35,000 (probably more) rapes per year which are covered up by US govt.
At least we burn our Mosques and don't elect Muslim presidents.
Nigger head. Now go to your white privilege class and learn to be raped and enjoy the privilege of it.
>>74938247
>America boned Afghanistan and our leaders did nothing to stop our native population from being displaced
Fixed
>>74938533
Sure it is, now fuck off and clean up your own yard.
>>74938496
Everyone is, you fuck up everything you touch because you're the mentally retarded half aborted fetus that needs putting out of its misery.
>>74938601
Actually we rejected mama merkels mandatory quota.
But she's Obama's little servant and a good goyim of Israel, just like Americircumcise.
ftfy*
come on sign it and help the austria bros!!
https://www.openpetition.eu/at/petition/online/neuwahlen-sofort-oesterreich-braucht-eine-neue-regierung
>>74938504
You want us to do what exactly? Run out in the streets with guns and shoot the guys that crashed into the towers? Shoot at the dead Bernadine shooters? Shoot a cripple who's in jail on death row?
Like seriously. Just start shooting all random brown people in CALIFORNIA.
>>74938543
>cherry picking this hard
How was your halal lunch at Uni?
>>74938617
>everyone's mad that we blew our empires into the Stone Age in 1916 and the US went to the moon
>>74938734
Why were there no protests from the people?
Why do Americans try to say "Americans are the only ones left with balls and the will to rebel" when you can't even get out of your mobilty scooters to have your voice heard? . .. it's all bull.
You even built a Massive Muslim Community on the site of 9/11???
An you say Europeans are cucked.
>>74938653
Sounds like you should've revolted with your guns. Because you're talking all that shit about America not doing so.
Or did you just take it, and now your projecting because your sweet cinnamon ring is burning?
>New York city represents America
Guy.... Please
>>74938970
We don't have an excess of fat people on scooters.
That's simply a Brit myth that you want so bad to be true.
Now go admire your most recently elected Muslim mayor you cuck.
>>74938970
Protest what dummy? All those people that were responsible? Dead.
That Texas Draw Muhammad event? Shooters were killed.
But yea, I guess we could just take to the streets and start killing people like the Arabs and niggers do
>>74938494
Neither Russia nor Israel would ever support coups unless the right-wing leaders from the big players in the EU ensured allegiance to Russia and Israel, mainly the UK, France and Germany.
I've seen some people on /pol/ complaining on how Poland is being a "diplomatic whore" with Israel, but they're doing exactly what they should. If these relations with Israel strengthen their not-so-well relations with Russia (which some Poles said could very well happen), they're winning big.
Israel is your ally, it's about time people stop bitching about merchants and realize Israel is a big player. Even Soros attempted to screw up Israel numerous times by funding boycott campaigns and causing internal instability in Israel. They're not like your average merchant in any way.
If these right-wing political leaders in the EU could gather and organize a movement, then guarantee allegiance to Russia and Israel, it's exactly the type of temptation neither Russia nor Israel would overlook. What they want the most at this point is to earn influence and political support from the EU, you give them what they want, I'm certain they'll do anything within their power to achieve it.
>>74939245
I'd support Israel and Russia. Fuck Mudslime Palestinians.
>>74939172
Full of shit.
You have Muslim Mayors too . . .. you even have a Muslim Majority City . . .. no country in Western Europe has one of those.
America is so full of fail but you refuse to see it.
>>74938064
>That pic
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>74939347
What is turkey?
>>74937069
>Other Nations wouldn't intervene
Yes they would. Trump, Putin, and the Chinese would all agree not to deploy any conventional forces to Europe but you can be assured they'd either be funding or arming any rebel groups that have similar views or would benefit them in the future. You'd also see SOF groups being actively deployed to train any rebel groups that said country supports. The situation would be very similar to what has been happening in the Syria for the past few years, except that the men would actually stay and fight.
>I seriously think if we could organise a European revolt, we should.
The problem with this is that we need a massive catalyst. Something so big that there is no going back over and that there is no political solution to, otherwise we'll just see some protests then the politicians agreeing to some sort of temporary fix. We'd also need to target military personnel within each country to either get them on our side or to get them to leave the military otherwise we'd likely get stomped on within a few months.
>The Problem is arming the people and organising it.
As I said previously arming would likely come from outside influence. Otherwise we'd have to raid military bases, police stations and begin funding ourselves to buy our own from arms dealers.
The biggest issue that we'd face is organizing it. Would we seek to fall behind a right-wing political party and have them lead us (This would likely end badly due to lack of military experience), or would we seek to form our own cells and fight until we've eliminated the opposition?
>>74939451
>What is turkey?
Not Western Europe.
>American Education
>>74936891
>frauen bis 29 67% fanta
this means women under 29 voted for unlimited Rapefugees
>>74939451
A country that can /maybe/ be considered a part of eastern Europe at a stretch. It's also been Muslim for centuries, so I really hope that isn't the standard you measure yourselves by.
>>74936433
You know immigrants and their descendants don't get to vote, right?
>>74939537
also: 81% of students like rapefugees
>>74939492
Okay. If "not Western Europe" than California and new yours and deerborn Michigan "aren't America"
See how easy that is?
>2016
>still putting your hopes in elections like a bunch of good goys
>>74939602
WTF??????
If you honestly think Turkey is in Western Europe, you need to buy a Map .
>>74936433
thats the thing, demographics are changing so rapidly that this is legitmately our last change to change things through democracy. austria is now officially gone for good unless they fight an armed insurrection
>>74936283
Nah, by the time the next election will be you'll have more brainwashed millenials of voting age and immigrants.
Austrians need to act NOW if they don't want the nation turn to a complete shithole.
>>74939565
I hope this is true, but I need proof.
>>74937908
Nothing after 9/11? Kek.
We invaded and removed the governments in two nations.
Bpёти
the right needs to realise that democracy is not the answer
the more frustrated the right get, the better chance at revolution
>>74937211
this is correct
European and American democracy is rotten to the core, it needs to be demolished not taken over
>>74939771
>We invaded and removed the governments in two nations.
Wrong nations dumbass.
>>74939692
oh fuck off
the president is a nominal position (he's not chancellor) and he already got 40% more than he would in any other Western country i
>>74939674
This is this is why cherry picking is dumb. Saying "Wales beat up Pakistanis" is like saying "Rhode Island has harsh drinking laws"
"Turkey doesn't count when talking about Europe" or "only Western Europe" would be like me saying California Oregon and Washington doesn't count. You can only count Tennessee, the carolinas, Georgia and Texas."
Try imagining America as the EU (the states being a parallel to European member nations) except bigger, with more freedom, a larger economy, the worlds military, and cultural center of the world,
>>74939983
not good enough. tell me honestly, is there anyone in your govenrment who could realistically protect your demographics? if not you are simply gone without rebellion, its the cold hard truth
>>74939932
This, as an American, I agree with. We should invade Saudi
>>74936283
templars are fucking nigger lovers. Take your christian jew nigger loving religion and jam it up your ass. Christians are worse than niggers. They promote multiculturalism under the guise of muh sky daddy.
>>74938167
Right-wing parties wouldn't want to start a civil war unless there was no other option left. You need to remember these parties are often nationalists who want to see their countries grow and become a serious contender once more, the last thing they'll want is their country to be plunged into a civil war for 5-10 years. You also need to remember a lot of these guys are still politicians at heart, they'll attempt to secure a truce as soon as they possibly can.
What we need to do is mirror the American War of Independence as much as possible.
We need the people (Not a political party) to rise up behind a single person or a unified group, we cannot afford to have it turn into a Syria War V2 where we've got 10-20 different groups who want different things.
We'd then need to fight a Guerilla war on any pro-government forces and either force them into a surrender or completely defeat them.
Then we could establish a pro-right wing constitution and begin returning to our day-to-day lives with our new right-wing government.
>>74940071
the EU is almost twice as big as the US and over 90% white
>>74940071
Forgot pic
>>74940071
Turkey isn't Western Europe, it never has been and never will be.
You can cherry pick all you like .. . NY isn't America, . . California isn't America . . .Deerborn isn't America . . .etc . .etc.but like I said you are just fooling yourself.
Technically Turkey is Asia minor, but in no stretch of the imagination can it be considered Western Europe.
Sorry fatboy.
They won everyone who was able to be rationally convinced. They won Men well, and almost all of the working class.
They lost women and the university indoctrinated.
It was a great achievement, now time for an Army Coup to take power from the irrational women who want Austria to commit suicide.
>>74936283
nobody made any gains except the left you fucking moron.
how can you look at the world today and think anything else? are you mentally challenged?
Even with mass refugees pouring in we STILL lost.
How is that a victory? Have the far right ideas gained any momentum at all?
Not even a little, Hofer was a very moderate right candidate despite what everyone says.
He wasnt elected for any far right ideas.
You need to shut the hell up, you are a stupid teenage kid. Go back to facebook where your retard opinions hold some value.
Losing is not winning, you goddamn cunt.
>>74939347
>First Muslim Majority City
>First
Said as though there will be many more to come...
>>74940208
america used to be white too, look what happened. they didnt even have open marxists carting niggers in just slightly liberal cucks and kikes, anyway america being fucked beyond repair doesnt mean you arent also fucked and us and the rest of europe too depending on how elections go probably all of us
>>74940155
If the day comes that pushes Europe into actually revolting, godspeed.
Although, I'm afraid it will most likely take another terrorist attack to kick start a revolution.
>>74939473
I suggest the next wave of refugees we use as a reason to riot. We need to start preparing for July. A Riot on the streets of London, Berlin and Paris simultaneously would work. Once the Riots have started, we start hoarding goods and use it to recruit people to the cause, declare ourself to the world and then secretly pledge allegiance to Putin to gain his support. Anything wrong with this?
>>74938617
Where is that image from? And can you upload it at a proper resolution Nigel?
>>74940441
YES!
We don't need to pledge alliance to anyone, Putin, Trump or whatever.
>>74936283
>win next time
two by the next election
>Either Muzzies get out of control and the left realizes it needs to turn more to the right for votes and they do some pretend security measures that change nothing just to keep the people that are thinking of voting right but are still indoctrinated that it's 'bad' from leaving = the left wins
>They manage to pass a quick enough immigrant voting right = the left wins
these right parties are anti-EU, and that makes sure they will never will
christians set up nigger camps all over the world to promote their niggotry to niggers who then move to white nation to advance their niggotry. All western law is promoted to failure because of their christian nigger laws that promote niggotry in civilized nations. Americanigger copped the brunt of it with their jews an all. Niggers and jews you gonna lose.
>>74940441
Why not hoard the goods BEFORE the revolution
>>74936283
He's not fucking far right. Why do you believe this meme
>>74939840
National socialism wasn't a revolution, nor was fascist Italy or putins rise to power. Revolution is a communist thing.
>>74939692
>i
You what??
>>74940132
This is what happens if something REALLY big happens. It becomes justification for more government (hi Patriot act) and more rapefuges.
>>74937211
Theoretically yes but trump will buy us some time
We don't have enough people in our movement yet
>>74940570
Guns and such? I would start if I had the cash, mate.
Jokes aside though, the political revolution can't just sit here on pol. We need to start national meetups and start doing shit.
>>74940155
>to rise up behind a single person
Impossible in this age. It would be assassinated at light speed.
>>74936433
FPBP
We have to realize that if we keep playing the game according to rules made up by the left, we'll always lose
>>74940155
Don't overthink it, the Right has the Army. We don't need to launch a long civil war, the Army just needs to launch a quick coup.
60% of men and 90% of workers voted for Hofer, what percentage of the Army do you think voted for Hofer? I'd guess 90%+
The women and cucks who voting for the Green don't serve in the Army, they can't fight, they don't have a gun culture.
Men choose Hofer. Women choose suicide. Men make up the Army. The Army doesn't want the nation to commit suicide. Push comes to shove, an Army Coup is the Right's secret weapon and our best option to overcome the suicide pact of a female electorate.
>>74936283
>CRUSADES ARE KWELS
>Its not like 40% of them was against us.
Ahmed are you mad?
the pure white resistance is coming brothers where we gas all the niggers and heebs back to the stone age, muslims included. We can not advance as a human race without all the shit removed.
>>74937908
>how this britbong triggered all these fats
Even after all this time, you are superir in everyway than your filthy colonies.
>ITT: divide-and-conquer shills
>>74940697
Where would you get guns (the type to fight a war, not single barrel shotguns) in Europe. I'm not well versed in your gun laws truthfully
>>74936283
Russian Revolution ended up pretty bad for Russia and ultimately for the world.
>>74936702
>slavic countries
>white
Not according to Hitler's idelogy
>>74940896
>divide-and-conquer shill
this right here is the battle cry of the retard
>>74940878
Sorry guido, he was only talking to me, one person
>>74940942
slavs were aryan
>>74940913
Wow nice example bro!
I hate revolutions now!
PS: Commie revolutions belong in the trash
>>74940780
>>74940824
Your pitty protests and sticks with stones are hopeless against BASED power. You fascist and terrorists would be enforced into submission.
>>74940896
That's a pretty cute looking Hitler desu.
>>74940944
>euros and americans attacking each other over things they don't defend in the first place
>not divide and conquer
>>74940913
>Russian Revolution ended up pretty bad for Russia
Are you insane? If not Revolution Russia would not have Putin.
>>74936283
>Europe
>Right wing
And Polands Law and Justice doesn't count? The fuck britbong, too high this early?
>>74940898
You can actually own guns as a farmer to defend your property or for general hunting. These are limited to bolt action rifles and shotguns though. Buying them legally is also quite expensive. You also must tell the police where you keep the gun, and they do an annual visit to make sure its still there.
It's far easier to buy illegal imported guns in London and Manchester, and you can buy machine guns even for a pretty good price. low supply and demand too as they're mainly used for show by pakis.
>>74936891
>women vote against survival for the white race
GIVING WOMEN THE RIGHT TO VOTE WAS A MISTAKE!
>>74940898
Austrias population is very well armed.
Now it's waiting for summer and the rapefuges.
That will be the starting point.
Right now we can't do shit, but i am sure a couple more rapes and murders are needed.
The city bastards and woman shall bag.
And we will help them, in return woman will never be allowed to vote again.
No sense in playing your cards before you get the max out of it.
>>74941307
Honestly ending suffrage would be a tad extreme early on. Not saying I disagree but 90% of the population would.
>>74940441
Using refugees to start a revolution wouldn't work. We wouldn't get the mass support that we'd need to spark one, never mind win one.
We need something that people from the center and the right can easily get behind without questions their ethics. I'm personally thinking that the EU would be the best starting point for any form of armed revolution in Europe (Hell it's a text book reason (Taxation without representation)). I'm thinking in the next 5-10 years the EU will try to control more of our day to day lives, so they'll eventually begin heavily pushing for a Europe Federation, and that's when we begin.
Having the population rebel against a dictatorship would mean that other countries (The US under a Clinton rule) would be less likely to deploy ground troops to support either side without their own population becoming seriously mad.
>>74940754
Then that becomes an ideology.
>>74940780
The army won't do shit. Senior leaders in every army in the world are too political to launch a coup. We need to prepare to do this without army support otherwise we'll be doomed to fail.
Don't get me wrong if it does kick of you'll likely see large chunks of the military going to the rebels side to fight the government. But you'll never see a full on army coup, not nowadays.
>>74941413
I'd be happy ending the votes of people who don't pay taxes.
>>74940321
Guys, the trick is to realize, that voting never was a way out in the first place. Things have to go all the way into the shitter and only then the societal approval, which you need because you simply can't fight everybody, of the uprise of Aryan men will be there.
Pic related: what was necessary the last time for an Aryan Ethno-State to arise: People literally starving. A few rapes here and there won't do it. This ride just started. Buy guns and ammo, stockpile food and water and become strong, fast and connected.
Atleast Austria can have a right wing candidate.
Unlike germany -insta-arrest-
>>74941478
Great idea. But change that to "net-tax-payer". Everybody who receives money from the state, public workers, teachers, politicians and so on, can't vote either. They don't actually pay taxes, they receive taxes and of course they will always vote to receive more.
Only net-tax-payers must be allowed to vote.
>>74941591
AfD exist tho
>>74937234
Are there any legal/formal procedures being started due to this?
>protestants and anglicans
>crusade
why are fatericans so stupid
>>74938096
>t. Shlomo Oyveystein
>>74941714
>AfD
They seem like just a show to present that Germany is Democratic country.
>>74941795
>fatericans
keep trying. i don't think that one will catch on
>>74936283
you are aware that greece voted for the golden dawn despite the left trying to destroy them after they got into power durring the greek debt crisis
and that poland went far right and is still far right
>>74941859
can't catch on 'cause you're too greasy
It doesn't matter. It's a vicious cycle. The right gets in power, globalists take over the right, the left gets in power, globalists take over the left. Look at the USA
>Bush Sr.
>Clinton
>Bush Jr.
>King Nigger
All globalist shills. Face it, we can't win.
thank god this coservcuck lost, now just let more refugees in and we'll be done with this germanic cancer
>>74939565
>implying the leftists won't do anything about this
You're delusional, they will just give them the rights to vote.
>>74941967
People can and WOUld win if they were united, people need to see some hard evidance against this some leaked documents or smth.
>>74942092
The only way this will end is through violent revolution. Of course, you know this will never happen.
>>74937234
If it was fixed how come Hofer is not making a scandal on Austrian tv ?
>>74936283
You know whats funny?
I used to be liberal(ish), except when it comes to immigration and cultural marxism in schools (adults should be able to choose their own shit).
I predicted that there would be a massive shift to the "right" (not suicidal immigration policy) 3 years ago. Everyone told me "NAW YOURE CRAY ANON".
Now look at this shit. I just heard in the radio (Austrian #1 channel) an exposé about "the neo-nazi scene in Tyrol".
Its surreal. Austria is lost. The next backlash will be exponentially bigger.
FPÖ will be chancellor and shiit.
>>74941011
the only terrorists here are the ones with planes and government funded guns to promote disruption and discourse. You faggots will be hung in town square before the end of wars.
>>74936623
Pretty much this more people wake up each day the numbers don't lower after one battle lost in a war with many. The fire is rising
>>74941413
Not as a goal, but ending womans rights will be the consequence.
And rightfully so. Woman fucked man over for generations now, it's getting to a boiling point.
I for once will smile when i read about rape victims in the future.
Our woman wanted them, who am i to deny them their wish?
>>74942189
>never happen
Yeah, a violent revolution has NEVER happened. People can keep spitting out that lie all they want, violent revolutions can and will happen again. You can only push a country of people so far.
>>74938064
>>74939400
>
This past Sunday, my gorgeous wife – a white evangelical, like me — gave birth to our beautiful African-American triplet daughters whom we adopted as embryos. These sweet girls will hopefully soon be coming home to meet their 3-year-old African-American brother and 2-year-old biracial sister, both of whom we adopted as infants.
kek
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/04/21/my-wife-and-i-are-white-evangelicals-heres-why-we-chose-to-give-birth-to-black-triplets/
>>74942523
In the United States it's entirely possible thanks to the 2nd amendment but what will they do in the UK? Sweden? Most of Europe? You can't win a war if your primary small arm is a butter knife.
>>74936283
>Dat pic
What the fuck is Orbán doing there? He is, like, the Token Bad Guy or what?
>>74936433
Most mudslimes don't vote actually.
>>74941795
Because they are the Christian version of summerfags. Show up at Christmas and raster
>>74942722
The army is still white, only 560 Muslims in it. I'm confident that there will be a significant split in the army if Downing street decide to turn guns towards us.
>>74942257
I predicted that too, I wonder how people could not see this FPÖ rise coming from years away, people called me tinfoiler and and a Nazi, I was more or less right with all my "crazy" predictions, now I can't wait for the moment when Van der Bellen has to swear in an FPÖ chancellor.
>>74942722
Won't happen till people are cold and hungry. We're too fat to revolt (fuck you Europe bros)
>>74942820
I fear that the muzzies in the cities voted green too because they know they can remain unchecked this way and continue gaining ground.
>>74942241
That would just make him look like a sore loser which would make the party look weak and infantile. You need the people to solve this themselves.
>>74943075
Or when some fucking Arab beheads a dozen schoolchildren in the rural south/Midwest
>>74943047
I cant wait for the moment this sack of green shit finally suicides with tschik.
>>74942937
Let's say 75% defect. Your military has roughly 200,000 individuals. That's still 50,000 people with some of the best military technology on the planet vs a bunch of people with weaponized bike tires.
>>74942389
desu mate, I'm not sure where I stand on this, there are redpilled women I know who are genuinely smart and emotionally stable and mature, but indeed most women are idiots. Political parrots. But how to distinguish?
My own gf is even more clear on it, she is ashamed to be a women because of the things we see nowadays and says women just shouldn't have voting rights.
But still, how to separate the good, intelligent women from the bad?
>>74943348
Good morning /k/ ;)
>>74942937
Not to mention other EU members pitching in to suppress the "radical right terrorists"
>>74943348
>implying the defectors won't take their tanks and ATGMs with them.
>>74939565
Depends on the country, Im British and worked in the Netherlands for 9 months and was automatically allowed vote. I didn't register or anything just received a letter in the post saying I live their so I'm allowed vote
>>74943690
Are you sure? For what was it? European parliament or Dutch politics?
I'm pretty sure that's against the law, do you still have the letter?
>>74936283
The damage will be already done come the nest elections. We need action NOW (or actually years ago).
>>74943348
Do you really think the military would do shit against an armed revolution?
The large chunk of the military would either defect and join the rebels or they would refuse to get involved.
>>74943859
>they would never turn on us. They are our countrymen
that's what every person said through history befor they where NKVDd, Red Guards, GESTAPOd, ect
>>74936283
>You can bet they'll win next time
Just like Nigey right?
Face it cuck, you guys are done eight ways to Sunday and no matter how pissed the people get the kikes have half of your people as literally sheep
>>74936283
kek @ that photo OP.
Good move Austria
>>74937685
I might actually be willing to do something so drastic as succeed from the united states but find the average person on the street and ask them if they are willing to do the same.
Even most rednecks are fucking bluepilled rejects who will instantly start spouting shit like "hwut you say bout muh murrica? We don't take kindly to you antipatriotic types round dez parts. I fought the tawlie-ban in Iraq to preserve your freedoms."
They are useless. If we really wanted to make a difference we would need to create a group that actually could pull fringe members of enemy groups and then condition ourselves for a long protracted engagement with superior forces.
You honestly think those ass hats who holed up in the malhuer wildlife refuge are going to be of any use? That's pretty much the best we got.
>>74943859
Don't kid yourself, our Military is a bit different to the Americans, who can opt out of fighting due to Muh Feels.
The British Army does not have that option, that's why you need to be clever and wave a flag of the Queen, it makes it more difficult for them to decide.
>>74940167
Yeah, and you fail to reproduce. Shitskins are going to replace you, because they are actually fucking and pumping more and more children.
>>74944217
There's a lot more anti govt vets than you think. We just hide our power level because we know the govt is watching. My gunners father got arrested for buying explosives from the ATF. We're here and we're waiting
>>74944307
This already happened, ppl in our country don't want their children grow up in a land full of mudslime.
>>74939591
Well I guess they asked for it. I mean they already apologize profusely whenever they provoke them during a sexual emergency
Something needs to happen soon. I tired of reading stories about rapes in Europe. European countries are among the most beautiful in he world.
But, they're being overrun by mudslimes. This is their goal. In their fucking book, it tells them to conquer countries. They're doing it by swarmi in and out breeding you.
Germany's own fucking government wants this to happen.
>>74943392
That's easy.
Keep the woman around you save if you like them and turn a blind eye to the libshits.
If a woman is truely redpilled she will most likely have a man to keep her safe.
The sluts will have to swallow the mudslime cock if they want to survive.
The male left voting faggots will get the iron pill, machete to the neck.
I don't know when this all will start, but it will.
>>74944011
I'm pretty sure its under the Geneva convention that they aren't allowed to deply troops against their own population.
Besides do you really think an army of 200,000 would be able to fight aggressively against the population? Their logistics wouldn't be able to cope.
>>74936702
Dont Foret us
>>74944415
I know. I know a few. Most though consider their families first. I know the majority would follow if there was a major movement. But still, it's one of those things. Like you said the best is to bide time and just wait for the right moment.
>>74944767
>leftist not violating Geneva convention or lying.
Was Ireland not English during the troubles (serious question)
>>74944714
No I understand that, what I'm talking about is if voting rights for women would be abolished, I'd be against it to an extent. There are vomen that deserve voting rights, but unless there is a clear line to follow it's either all of them or none of them.
>>74936283
>hofer in the lead by 143k votes
>media goes dark
>oh look we found some votes, now you lose enjoy your muslims gg bb t. Juncker
>>74944767
The EU wants to create a Euro army so they can deploy foreign troops in just this case, they would be less reluctant to fire upon us.
But in the case of martial law . . .the military would.
This is what I meant by being clever . . .if we aligned ourselves with 'National Sovereignty' or something versus the Enemy within (government destroying our country) then it's more likely troops would work with us.
>>74944841
Of course your family comes first. I would die if it would save my child. Or his country But I won't throw my life away for the bundys in Oregon you know?
ITT A bunch of obese neet under 25's trying to associate with productive and conservative males in soceity, that have nothing in common with the. Also thr glorification of war and revolution against the state while calling those against that traitors.
Face it you are losers who would hate war or any sort of unrest tha hurts your living. You are also no better than antiFA or communists. Too lazy and stupid to change society so instead you slob around inside calling for violence
>>74938417
Take it from a native, London isn't a British city. Things were bad when I was a kid, but the last Labour government sounded the capital's death knell. The only English-speakers I encounter outside of my home and office are the Pakistani family who run the local corner shop.
>>74944937
They didn't deploy Irish Regiments there so they would be less likely to question their orders. Whereas if it kicked of across Britain soldiers would be more likely to question their orders and refuse them.
>>74945034
Reference this. I wrote it on my PC.>>74941467
>>74939537
>>74939591
Why are you surprised?
>>74945182
:( I always kind of admired Rule Britania
I actually reenact as a British regular. Is that wierd?
>>74936283
Shut the fuck up bernie. Less than 50% is not almost winning, it is losing.
>>74939602
>american intellectuals
>>74945301
>>74945301
A military coup nearly happened in the 1970's mate against the Harold Wilson Government.
>>74945418
>implying that Bernie isn't signaling a major shift in the left.
>>74945182
Ay mate, I'm the london I grew up in. I might be liviing in ireland now but I remember when I could walk down a london street and it didn't come with a 70% chance of stabbing. It was ony 34%.
>>74938247
>The muslim in your pic was stabbed by another muslim though
>>74945301
>>74945539
A coup is being threatened if Corbyn ever gets into power.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/british-army-could-stage-mutiny-under-corbyn-says-senior-serving-general-10509742.html
>>74937685
This delusion.
Americans are the most apathetic populace in the entire world. You don't give a shit about anything but base comfort. As long as you have food and television there will never be a revolution in the United States.
>>74945650
But at least you could understand the guy when he explained why he was knifing you.
>>74939565
I fucking wish, those niggers keep voting for more free shit over here
>>74945807
I fucking love the British Army
>>74945675
please source? cant find much on ethnicity of killers
>>74937685
>and the will to rebel
When, exactly?
When you're 50% white?
40%?
30%?
>We have guns.
Against artillery, aeroplanes and tanks?
And implying that the rest of the world won't be more than happy to put down an American uprising of le ebil neo-nazis.
>>74945900
Ha. True enough. Still I remeber a few years back. My old man, was getting mugged. Now he's an old fella but he's built like a fucking house. Played for London Irish rugby in his youth. They pulled that atm scam. You know, drop a tenner and try to get you to pick it up while they swipe your wallet. Big mistake, dad grabbed the fucker by the throat and dragged him into a restaurant near by. They called the cops while his friend ran off. When the met arrive. There's my dad one hand around the guys throat the other in a bag of chips. I laughed myself fucking silly when I went to pick him up.
>>74946123
>>We have guns.
Against artillery, aeroplanes and tanks?
And implying that the rest of the world won't be more than happy to put down an American uprising of le ebil neo-nazis.
Yeah dude.
It's not like long term underground gurrilia warefare can beat the US military, 6 times in a row or anything.
>korea
>vietnam
>afganistan
>iraq
>ISIS
>>74945052
No doubt.
This is why we need younger disenfranchised men with no families or responsibility.
is that why we won Iraq and Afghanistan and Vietnam? Cause we had planes and tanks?
>>74936283
cool pic
>>74946461
>>74946590
Rebels were armed with far more than just firearms, with the ability to smuggle in more weapons from neighbouring countries. The US armed forces would be more than capable of policing the waters and ground around a revolt.
Additionally a /pol/ uprising would be substantially smaller, and would attract fart less sympathy from the general public - as soon as a rebel says "We are fighting to keep America white", then there goes all public support.
So, forgive me if I'm wrong, but Americans aren't currently allowed to stockpile RPGs, explosives and anti-aircraft weaponry?
>>74946809
*far less
>>74940970
Its fine tyrone.
>>74945119
This is my point. If there is anyone actually serious then the redpill isn't going to be enough.
We need people who can actually produce results rather then just meme.
>>74946809
You can make AN/FO pretty easy. And we have a generation of bets who've been fighting goat fuckers for 15 years that could teach people.
>patrol the boarders.
HAHAHAHA we can't even keep Julio out
>>74946809
What happens when they guy in charge of the armory defects and lets his defector buddies load up thier trunks with heavy weapons and explosives
>>74945807
They treated the to conduct a coup if Greens ever got in power. But that isn't enough to kick start a civil war across Europe. And if its only Britain over throwing their government then you can be sure NATO and the EU will deploy troops.
We things to kick of across Europe at roughly the same time otherwise it wouldn't work.
>>74947040
>You can make AN/FO pretty easily.
Yes, and what do you do with it? Bomb heavily-guarded government facilities - or bomb fellow Americans, thus losing more support.
>And we have a generation of bets who've been fighting goat fuckers for 15 years that could teach people.
And how many of them support /pol/? And that still doesn't remedy the fact that the rebels would be considerably underarmed.
>HAHAHAHA we can't even keep Julio out
They're more than capable of doing so, yet your politicians don't wish them to. Besides, they wouldn't have to police the entire US-Mexico border, just cut off the one or two hick-towns where /pol/ decides to have their uprising in.
>What happens when they guy in charge of the armory defects and lets his defector buddies load up thier trunks with heavy weapons and explosives.
Supposing there are any people sympathetic to your goals in control of armouries, and supposing that any attempts by /pol/ to contact these people doesn't result in you spending some time in a federal prison, then these rebels have what? A tiny fraction of the weapons at the disposal of the US armed forces. How easy do you think it is to steal an Apache helicopter?
Will /brit/pol shut down when Brexit inevitably fails?
>>74947477
How easy is it to deadline/sabotage a helicopter if you're the mechanic. I'm in the army and I'd say 30% are strongly opposed to the govt, with another 25% disliking the govt. it's hard to go fight poor farmers for "freedom and democracy", see your friends killed and get crippled, come home and see your own rights eroded, and leftists actively bringing down the country
>>74937069
Too bad you gave up your guns. =P Your descendants will be overrun by Muslims and low IQ Africans. They will be bred out and bred out and bred out and bred out till they have a pure black skin tone, follow Islam and live in poverty. Better go to the black market, I heard you can get an AK-47 on the black market in Britain for about $30,000. Best of luck
>>74942257
>Its surreal. Austria is lost. The next backlash will be exponentially bigger.
Austria erit in orbe ultima. The democracy and leftists in Austria are lost.
>>74946008
>>74945675
>>74938247
nvm
>>74936283
What I learned from this election is: 1. We have no reliable allies in our country. The whole pol. spectrum will unite against us in order to keep us from power; even if that means conservative Christians coming together with Marxists. We can rely on noone and need to be able to get to 50% on our own. The best we can hope for is to tear apart the other parties and absorb their rightest wings.
2. We need more than 50%, because our "democracy" traditionally and routinely commands a low-level rigging of votes as a safe-fail; yes, I believe it's low-level, but it adds up considerably. We need at least 55% in order to win.
3. There is no way we can get to 55% without things getting much worse. We must reach a point where even women and students are forced to face the ugly reality and vote in favour of self-preseration.
Also, we need to reach out more to those migrant groups who are also not happy with multi-kulti, islamization and gender-bs. Why would Poles and Hungarians be voting nationalist in their old countries, but be in favour of destroying their new homes? So let's look for based and well-integrated immigrants from Eastern Europe and put them into prominent positions in the FPÖ. If you're a based, well-integrated migrant living in Austria, please contact the FPÖ and tell them you want to work for them. Career prospects are practically unlimited if you're presentable.
4. There will always be foreign influence and trickery to keep us from winning; and if we do win there will be political/economic sanctions. So we need to (continue to) work together internationally, just as the enemy is. This is why it was bs when a few Trump supporters on here said non-Americans should stay out of the discussion of US elections. We are in this together and we need to help and build political allies abroad. Also, stop with all the divide-and-conquer bs (that goes beyond manly banter) about who's white and who not, and the playing up of past historical grievances.
>>74947725
Sure, you could engage in acts of sabotage within federal/state forces - then be shot for sabotage.
I'll take your figures as true - opposition or dislike does not mean a willingness to take up arms against the government.
A citizens uprising would be a disaster in the US - the best hope would be a secession of individual states + their military forces, but obviously this is illegal, and I very much doubt it is very well supported.
I wish you luck in your hope to take up arms against the most powerful military on earth, fighting on their own territory, fighting for ideals that are widely denounced by most of the populace.
>>74947879
>Too bad you gave up your guns.
Shotguns are exceedingly easy to acquire.
>Your descendants will be overrun by Muslims and low IQ Africans. They will be bred out and bred out and bred out and bred out till they have a pure black skin tone, follow Islam and live in poverty.
Like the US?
>I heard you can get an AK-47 on the black market in Britain for about $30,000.
Probably. The wider availability of firearms in the US hasn't done much for your white population, though, has it?
>60%
>>74948199
Regarding 4, the beauty about nationalism is that it works with every nation.
Everyone wants a homeland I think.
>>74948337
You have no right to talk about Nationalism Hoferkiddie, now go back to fucking bed.
>>74948405
>You have no right to talk about Nationalism
But I just did, Paco. And I'll continue to do so.
>>74948232
>Shot for sabotage
Yea, people die in war, what's new?
A civil war would be a disaster for the economy no matter how you look at it and would much prefer a cultural revolution.
But yea I guess you're right, people WOULD die in a civil war (no shit?)
>party doesn't win
>best thing to happen.
I guess if your on the winning side.
>>74948588
>Not understanding the point.
The goal of armed conflict is to keep your people alive m8, unless this is your brilliant new strategy?
Temporarily grounding one helicopter wouldn't be particularly beneficial to this whole uprising.
>A civil war would be a disaster for the economy
It would be a disaster for the instigators of the civil war, is what I was saying.
>But yea I guess you're right, people WOULD die in a civil war (no shit?)
>Have uprising
>Le ebil neo-nazis!
>Sabotage a few helicopters
>Get shot
>Revolutionaries get bombed by F-117
>"A victory for diversity!" t. President Hillary Clinton.
>>74948893
Yea but 1/4 ppl in a 2 million strong army assisting saboteurs and guerillas isn't just one helicopter.
And shooting a bunch of soldiers in a country where everyone owns guns and has had "support the troops" beat into them for 15years wouldn't endear the govt to them.
I agree that they would be painted as terrorists, but when ACTUAL terrorism (nadal Hassan) is listed as workplace violence, you may not be as convincing as you think. I know there's the whole "dumb American" meme, but both the right and left are fed up with politicians and government. And both sides know the govt are all liars
>>74948232
Well I'll give you that Great Britain on a scale has more white people in total on a percentage basis, but racial and cultural replacement in Europe is happening at a much more rapid pace than in America. You WILL pass us. You'll let in people constantly as long as you are in the EU and don't support a NORMAL (for the rest of the world) immigration candidate. I am truly excited to see what will happen in my life time to Europe. If you die as a race and culture it will make for a good laugh, but if you fight and stay homogenous by kicking ass it would be pretty cool to watch too.
>>74948893
>Hillary
Like her victory in Libya, Syria, Waco, or ruby ridge?
>>74937069
>A European Civil War in which citizens of every nation rise up and overthrow their government
This will and can literally never happen
GTFO Role playing scum
>>74949324
>Yea but 1/4 ppl in a 2 million strong army.
You believe this many people are willing to take up arms against the government?
>And shooting a bunch of soldiers in a country where everyone owns guns and has had "support the troops" beat into them for 15years wouldn't endear the govt to them.
What are you saying here, that people will support the rebels because they've had "support the troops" beat into them? I'd say the opposite.
>but both the right and left are fed up with politicians and government. And both sides know the govt are all liars.
Slight difference in being fed up and willing to begin armed insurrection, no?
>Like her victory in Libya, Syria, Waco, or ruby ridge?
We'll see.
>>74936891
>The eternal vaginal jew strikes again
Stefan Molyneux was right
>>74949692
No but I believe 1-4 would help by, say, turning a blind eye, not reporting certain events or missing equipment, sending info, damaging equipment ect.
And so if you have 500,000 soldiers helping and you shoot 3% of them, yes I do believe that Americans would be turned off at the thought of 15000 executed soldiers.
Life in prison? Maybe they could swallow that pill
>>74949692
We passed out of this war after 5000 soldiers died. No way Americans would stomach an actual civil war
>be European
>finally displeased and ready to revolt against government
>no guns
>dat feel when Second Amendment finally makes sense
You seriously fucked yourselves, Eurocucks.
>>74949619
>>74949643
>>74949672
you're a dirty heretic and a traitor... When the day of the rope comes you'll be targeted as well achmed
>Deus Vult
>>74949330
>but racial and cultural replacement in Europe is happening at a much more rapid pace than in America.
Not according to the data here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_racial_and_ethnic_demographics_of_the_United_States
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_Kingdom#Ethnicity
Between 2000 and 2010, the non-Hispanic White population of the US dropped from 69.1% to 63.7% of the total population, a drop of 5.4%.
Whereas in the UK, between 2001 and 2011 the white population dropped from 92.12% to 87.17% of the population, a drop of 4.95%.
This clearly shows that the US is changing at a faster rate than the UK, added to this, you are also significantly further gone than the UK.
>You WILL pass us.
Not supported by the data.
>You'll let in people constantly as long as you are in the EU and don't support a NORMAL (for the rest of the world) immigration candidate.
True, but the EU is mostly white, and Muslim citizens have not yet gained citizenship en masse (and would probably stay in Germany anyway).
>If you die as a race and culture it will make for a good laugh.
Thanks Schlomo.
It's the worst thing to happen to Europe. He got much more than 50%, they only made it a close race to make people think they have a chance next election. All this proves is that the kikes have complete and total control over the elections, down to a single percent
>>74950509
>simple and to the point
Inderrated
>>74936283
Elections aren't games, though. Especially not when demographics are changing so rapidly. While >>74936433 is wrong about who's having children, he does make a valid point about immigration. Austria 'welcomed' one refugee for every hundred inhabitants just last year, and this year more will be coming. Then they will be making use of the right to family reunification, and immigration will only pick up in the years to come due to climate migration and more Muslims going snackbar on each other in the Middle East. The next time, Austria might face a scenario like this:
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3064/muslim-voters-europe
And Britain, the referendum is your last chance to jump off the sinking ship, because by the time you might be able to get a new referendum it will have slipped beneath the waves. This last chance to jump off the sinking ship is not going to happen in four years, it's going to happen in less than one month. And the Remain side is on a huge advantage in most polls as well as with the bookmakers. So get our there, talk to people you know, join a campaign.
>>74943047
the possibility for an FPÖ Chancellor is really high to be honest! Some years ago, we alwas had an SPÖ president and an ÖVP chancellor.
>>74950509
>American education.
Europe has different gun laws in different countries, Austria and Switzerland are fairly lax for example. And in the UK you can still get firearms, they're not completely illegal.
Also, see here:
>>74946123
Americans are never going to revolt.
The jews are terrified, can't you feel it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPGPsgDTW6k
>>74950509
Europoors BTFO
>>74937685
>Will to rebel
Just like those guys that occupied the ranger station in Oregon? A bunch of support the "patriots" gave them.
>>74949619
>>74949643
>>74949672
>centuries of border skirmishes
>interspersed with actual wars
>Spain overrun
>Greece under siege
>the Caliphate reaches its hands all the way to France
>Christians forced to convert in the very heartland of their faith
>diplomacy fails
>papal throne reluctantly leads push back against the incursion
>"oh no the crusaders were a little bit naughty"
>"they definitely shouldn't have acted like every other soldier in the world acts"
>"it's possible to have full-scale war between equally-matched opponents without rape and plunder"
tl;dr committing atrocities is preferable to suffering them
>>74950902
>implying a bolt action hunting rifle is as effective as a semi-automatic carbine
>implying all firearms aren't registered and the government couldn't come take them
>implying firearms aren't locked away at gun clubs instead of your home
Just kys
>>74951068
They did win at bundy ranch to be fair
