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If you have questions about a new camera, what lenses to buy and anything related to gear or wondering about getting into photography, post it in this thread.

Do not attempt to make a new thread for your new Rabal, broken glass and being new.
No pointless (brand) arguments and dickwaving allowed! You have been warned!

I repeat, ANYTHING GEAR RELATED goes in here!

And don't forget, be polite!

Previous thread: >>2859218
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First for cuckoldry.

Nikon is cucked by Sony sensor fabs.
Samsung is cucked by ded system.
Sony cucks users with lelnolenses.
M43 is using cuck-worthy generations old sensors.
Pentax is cucked by old lenses and no market share or marketing.
Fuji has cuck-tier AF, video, and only relies on marketing and memes.
Canon is cucked by dynamic range and ISO invariance.
/p/ is cucked by the thought of taking photographs.
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>>2862047
0/10
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>>2862047
> Sony cucks users with lelnolenses.
Nah. Maybe it cucks poorfag shooters with lel upper midrange / high end lenses only, but the lens system for the e-mount is now extensive.
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>>2862047
Keep this shit on /pol/ or /b/, you're like an angsty teen redditor with a fedora and bad acne spewing memes trying to fit in


inb4 you call me a cuck


Hiroyuki wordfilter pls
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>>2862059
FE mount, maybe.
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>>2862059
From the price of one lens I can buy a whole range of Limited primes for my Pentax, covering from UWA through standard to portrait focal lengths.
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>>2862059
300mm f2.8 Nikkor - $5,500

300mm f2.8 Sony - $7,500

70-300 VR Nikkor (4.5-5.6) - $500
70-300 Sony (4.5-5.6) - $1,200


500mm f4 Nikkor - $10,200
500mm f4 Sony - $13,000


Tell me again who the cucks are
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>>2862065
Nothing stops you from using FF lenses on APS-C. It's the same E-mount. I regularly do it.

>>2862069
Sure, for the price of one great lens you can buy multiple average ones. But they are not the same.

Pentax has a better midrange lens lineup (and is very sparse on the high end), Sony has the better high-end lens lineup (and is quite sparse on the midrange).
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Have ff canon, have 50mm 1.4, 85mm 1.8, need wide prime in the area of 24-35mm. Give suggestions fags.
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>>2862095
Any Sigma Art in that range, you pick the one you like best.
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>>2862095
35/2IS
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>>2862091
I'd actually adapt Canon mount lenses made by Canon or Sigma rather than Sony A-mount or Nikon lenses if I needed long "super" telephoto lenses.

Not an actual current need of mine, but it'd be the solution I'd choose.
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completely new to /p/

I want to start taking pictures of abandoned urban areas, what type of camera is good for that and why?

budget is $500
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>>2862122
Something with a wide angle, fast lens. Second hand will be your best bet at that price point. Also a tripod.
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>>2862125
anything specific you have in mind?
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>>2862122
I'd try a Samyang wide angle lens (8, 12, 14mm are popular - both rectilinear and stereoscopic fisheyes can do really quite good).

And then some camera to use it with.

Not that $500 is a comfortable budget. Perhaps you're better off using a smartphone or sports camera here? They usually offer something like a 24mm equivalent, which is still fairly wide - though not as great, I guess you can use Hugin to get a wider panorama, shooting with these.
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>>2862104
>this
I'm lusting pretty hard for one.
Will certainly be my next small format purchase.
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>>2862091
>70-300 VR Nikkor (4.5-5.6) - $500
>tfw I just bought this for $200
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>>2862091

>not just adapting dirt cheap minolta lenses with full autofocus

Might as well. It is not like a compact FE lens exists, anyway.
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>>2862122
Pentax k30 with Tamron 18-50 f2.8
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>>2862127
Not really. For $500 you are fairly limited. As other anon said, a samyang/rokinon rectilinear or fisheye would be relatively cheap, and then whatever the Nikon/canon body you can get with the money left, obviously the lens mount must match the body. They are manual focus only though. I have a tokina 11-16 which is a nice wide angle with autofocus, but possibly out of your budget unless you can find one very cheap used. You will find focus is fairly easy to nail with wide angles anyway, so manual focus isn't too much of a deal breaker.
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Have a K-50. Going travelling and want a WA lens. 300$ budget because poor fag. Any suggestions?
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>>2862207
Kit lens adaptor for $30? Check out eBay
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Thinking of trying mirrorless with a fuji x-t10, 16-50 and a 27mm pancake. I already have a Nikon D3300, but apparently its not worth upgrading to a D5500 or D7200 at the moment.
Thoughts?

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>>2862241
I have no clue what kind of an upgrade you are looking for.

But generally speaking, of course it could be worth to upgrade to a D7200. Nikon obviously gave you plenty of reasons to buy that one over the D3300.
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poorfag looking for my first prime lens for my nikon d5200. 35mm or 50mm is my biggest question. mainly for street photography and maybe some video.
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>>2862251
Likely 35mm or wider.
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>>2862252
Seconded, I've had the 50mm 1.8 and a DX camera for years and I rarely use it, just a little too long and awkward with the crop factor.
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>>2862011
I live in burgerland and have my eye on a clean 5d mark II. what's a camera with a shutter count of 25k and a battery grip worth?
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>>2862104
>>2862104
>35/2IS

enjoy your CA

canon literally crippled the lens to sell its 35/1.4L with muh BR element
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>>2862125
>Something with a wide angle, fast lens. Second hand will be your best bet at that price point. Also a tripod.

if you have a tripod then you don't need fast lens...

>>2862122

I would buy a second hand 450d which can be had on ebay for <$100 + canon 10-18 efs + a light tripod.

save the rest of the $$$ for later
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>>2862246
>D7200

or get a second hand d7100 which is superior
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How do I into vintage lenses on my a6000 and is it even worth it if I don't already have any?
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>>2862311

You can get fantastic Minolta MD lenses for around $50 a pop.

M-mount is even better (so small!) but quite expensive.
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>>2862313

>buy adapter
>profit
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>>2862291
Much less than they are selling at since the 5DIV is going to drop in a few months.
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>>2862311
Get a cheap adapter, get cheap lenses, bam.
Look into OM Zuiko lenses, Canon FD, Minolta MC, and pretty much any big name SLR mounts. You can easily find decent lenses (Both OEM and 3rd party) for $50 or less.
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>>2862316
>needs adapter to have lenses for his system
filthy
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>>2862207
Kit lens go as wide as 28mm equivalent. Maybe get the 16-85 if you have the money.
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>>2862329

go back to /pol/
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>>2862331
Cant deal with the bants, or salty that your only lens is the shittastic 16-50?
>muh best sensor and best body

>>2862302
B-but muh banding. Or muh buffer. Or muh NFC. It's true, the used price on the 7100 is very attractive.

>>2862150
G VR? Thats a steal. I got mine for $320 2 years ago, about $80 under going price at the time. D? You got ripped m8.
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>>2862332
>Cant deal with the bants, or salty that your only lens is the shittastic 16-50?

I have 100+ lenses.

go shitpost somewhere else
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>>2862011
Good evening, /p/. I'm very new to photography, and have recently purchased some equipment that I hope will aid me in a summer photography course at a local college. A Canon t5i was recommended to me by a professor, and I also picked up a 160 LED light, as well as a dual mount and shotgun mic.

I'm in the market for having some kind of bag or backpack that I can lug my equipment in at any time, and hopefully a laptop as well. Bonus points if I can also shove a notebook or two in there for notes and jotting purposes. Pretty much hoping to find something that blends student and hobbyist, since it would be great to have access to my gear when I'm out and about doing things.
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>>2862311
Get adapter, stick on vintage lens, shoot.

It is worth it if you want cheap lenses or effect-heavy lenses.

It is not worth it if you need very sharp shots reliably, modern lenses do that quite a lot better in general.
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>>2862340
Look at the photographic backpacks and bags on Aliexpress.
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Shold i buy the sony a6300 with a 16-50 for 1k?? I want a nice tidy camera with the option of videoing.
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>>2862358
You should be looking at nice glass and buy the body for it, not the other way around.
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Anyone ever used a SD to CF card adapter?

I'm thinking of buying a couple of those instead of CF cards. I don't need 1066x speed or anything, and SD cards and hell of a lot cheaper. I have a 5dm2, any performance reviews etc?

>Pic unrelated

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>>2862371
You put SD card into adapter then put adapter into camara. It's not rocket science.
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>>2862369
>>2862358

To be fair, the e-mount has some very nice lenses. Little pricey though.

You could also adapt pretty much everything ever made.
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FE Pancake when?

I don't even care about the range.
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>>2862322
5Div is going to be make or break for me with Canon. If they can't bother to put 4K on that sucker then I'm just making the jump to Sony like I should have last year. I bet that many people are thinking the same and I hope Canon has their head on straight, too many competitors now to be stingy and "cost effective" (their own words) with their cameras.

Then again I guess there's always the 1DXii. pretty sure that shoots 4K now so there's hope for Canon. If I manage to find another $3K that's a potential option, I guess?
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>>2862409

FYI I just tried the Sigma AF adapter for Canon today.

I was absolutely blown away. It focused faster than some native E-mount lenses. Supposedly it isn't even the best adapter out there.

I wish I had some canon lenses to justify buying that adapter because it looks fun as hell.
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>>2862412
you mean with an A7?

I was actually considering going that route; buying an A7Sii just for video, buying a bunch of sigma art primes, then getting that adapter. Seems like the best option for video while future proofing myself for canon later on.

then maybe I could get a canon camera doen the line once they get their shit together? my t2i's been tried and true for the past 6 years but its age is pretty evident.
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>>2862414

It was an a6300 actually your, but the A7ii and A7RII both have the same focus system.

The Canon adapters get shit on here, and there are probably some lenses/situations they suck at, but I was plesently surprised at how well they worked.

The neat thing about the A7 series is you could also get old, manual lenses dirt cheap, and they work fantastic.
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>>2862420
potentially really stupid question I probably already know the answer to:

with an adapter, would they be able to turn an old manual lens and give it AF functionality? or does it not work like that?
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>>2862425

Kinda.

There is an autofocus adapter tat does that. Rather new but from reviews it seems to work perfectly exceot for some seeking in lowlight.
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>>2862425
A third party made one of these for Leica M -> E-mount, not sure if it is already released for production or not 'cause I really don't have anything Leica.

I'm pretty sure it was said that its the first adapter of that kind, so I it doesn't exist for any other MF lens system.

The other adapters that adapt to the E-mount will only do AF on lenses that had AF on the other system already.
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>>2862434

It is released.

There is like a two month wait list though.

It only officially works for M-mount, but it can work with anything you can adapt to M-mount.

There are a few lenses it wont work perfectly on, but for the bast majority it works great.
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>>2862409

>muh 4K

does anybody even have 4K TV let alone watch 4K content?
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>>2862425
>with an adapter, would they be able to turn an old manual lens and give it AF functionality?

you can focus either by turning the focus ring or moving the lens fore/back

a system that moves the whole lens would be big, expensive and slow and might not work for bigger lenses.

a system that turns the focus ring would be better, but it would be hard to make a system that can mechanically adapt to different focus ring location, size and turn requirement

not worth it imo. the advantages of old manual lenses are smaller size, lower cost and maybe lower weight. putting some abomination AF system on would defeat all those
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>>2862444
>a system that moves the whole lens would be big, expensive and slow and might not work for bigger lenses.
>not worth it imo. the advantages of old manual lenses are smaller size, lower cost and maybe lower weight. putting some abomination AF system on would defeat all those

Quite the opposite.

It can be done compactly and effeciently. Pic related.

Of course it only works to 100mm or so, and has issues with extremely heavy lenses (700g plus).

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>>2862448
>>2862444

The guts.

Youtube videos show it to be extremely fast with M-mount lenses.

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>>2862442
i feel you but its more about futureproofing a $3500 purchase. at least for me, that's a really huge investment, and I want my next camera to last me a minimum of 5 years at that price point. I can definitely see 4K video becoming the norm for a lot of digital content in 3 years, maybe even sooner.

if there isn't 4K video I doubt there'd be much of anything else to convince canon filmmakers to upgrade their 5Diii, let alone stick with canon. At that point I'd just buy an 80D or a 7Dii, full frame isn't worth an extra $23-2400.
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>>2862448
>no moving the whole camera instead.
you can shoot with long telephoto.
you have to prefocus and let the af do the fine tuning.
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Can someone explain to me the benefit of carrying 2 lenses (or more) when the focal length of one is covered by one of the others?

I'm looking up what various people use and I see things like guys carrying a 17-85 AND a 17-35.
Wouldn't the latter be redundant?

Only thing I can think of is that it may be easier if you shoot lots at 17 and lots at 35 so you don't need to adjust, you just zoom all the way in and all the way out to fire of shots quickly as needed. Is that the reason?

I'm very very new to this and am doing my research before buying a camera and a few lenses so it's probably something obvious but finding the answer is a struggle as I keep finding unrelated youtube videos.
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>>2862442
TV? No.
Pc monitors? Yes.
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>>2862406
How flat can you even go with full frame mirrorless? I would think that Leica lenses would be the smallest you can get before you star losing things like sharpness.
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>>2862450
>extremely fast
https://youtu.be/BUwyWx36-FU?t=7m33s
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>>2862499
The smallest lenses are always going to be the ones with focal lengths close to the flange distance. For sony E, it's around 19mm, for Nikon F, around 45. Not that you can't make large lenses at those focal lengths, but the smallest ones have to be those lengths.

Although the Hyper-Heliar 10mm is pretty small.
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>>2862481
Fujifag here also with same question.

Trying to decide to buying a XF 23mm 1.4 or the XF 18-135mm 3.5-5.6.
I mean, besides the obvious, weight, aperature differences which should I get? Price is similar.

I just want a general purpose 35mm equiv. lens.
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>>2862532
If all you want is a 35mm lens, then get the 23, as it will be a better 35mm equivalent lens than the other.

Most people don't actually do what that person is talking about. Those that do, might do so for better low light capabilities, better size/weight, better autofocus, but chances are good, they're just gearfags.
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>>2862481
>>2862532
>I see things like guys carrying a 17-85 AND a 17-35, wouldn't the latter be redundant
Only if it doesn't have advantages elsewhere.
The most common disadvantage of a zoom with a large range is a slow aperture (small hole for light to enter, slow shutter speeds that can't freeze moving targets, little background separation)

First 17-35mm that came up is a F/2.8 Nikon.
Compared to their zoom 16-85mm F/3.5-5.6, that's exactly one half-stop slower (only 75% as much light entering) at widest aperture, then when you zoom in and the 85mm becomes F/5.6, it's a full two stops worse, and you're getting only 25% of the light.

They're entirely different beasts. Nobody uses both to play at being a 35mm prime (non-zooming), the only reason to have a wide zoom range lens is for large amounts of zooming. It's far too slow and too heavy otherwise.
Also, the wide range normally means they used geometry where straight lines will be bent one direction when un-zoomed, straighten out at middle zooms, then bend the other direction when fully zoomed.

>>2862532
135mm after crop is nothing even slightly resembling 35mm, so go with the 23 (34.5mm on 1.5x crop body, and that lens is only for crops)
If you're this new and needed to ask that, then I think you'll enjoy having your first fast lens a lot. It makes a world of difference to be able to select fast shutters (so your handshake hasn't blurred everything, so that dogs and kids running aren't blurred and featureless from a long timer) and being able to get much better photos without needing flash every time there isn't bright sunlight.
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I'm looking at some second hand Canon EF 35mm 1:2 which is about $100 to $200 cheaper than the other listings. Are there significantly different models? Like without a stabilizer or something like that? It looks different than some other 35mm lenses I've seen.
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>>2862561
stabilization for canons is IS (image stabilization)
10 seconds on google says there's a F/2 without stabil from 1990.
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Looking to pick up my first DSLR and some recommendations would be very helpful.

I don't know anything about photography and I'm looking to make his a hobby and maybe more.

Budget is probably around $700 but I have some flexibility if need be.

I've been recommended the Canon Ti series and would just like any help I can get. Kinda looking at the t5i right now.

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>>2862378
I know how to use it you twat. I asked for performance and shit, if it's worth it or not.
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>>2862293
you click a box in LR and it fixes it
CA doesn't matter unless you're using this lens for video
in which case you should just a cine prime
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Are light meter apps any good without those metering bulbs to go on top of them?
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>>2862639
If your phone isn't garbage, yes. Reading light levels using a light-gathering sensor (which a camera sensor in a phone is) is absolutely trivial in this decade.

It's not something advanced like auto-focusing on moving objects.
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>>2862658
I have a 6S which I guess is one of them best cameras you can get on a phone. Though it seems as if it takes the reading from the focal length the camera is set at which is quite wide. Will that affect the reading any if I'm using something like a 50mm lens?
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>>2862639
Those bulbs are used for incident meters.
They need to be placed near the subject and measure the light falling onto the subject.

Reflective meters don't need a bulb, they basically "look" at the subject from the camera position and measure the light being reflected by the subject towards the camera.

>>2862660
Any decent light meter app will have different modes.
Spot metering doesn't depend on focal length.
Center weighted and Matrix/evaluative metering will look at the entire picture, unless there is some way to limit it.
You could also move the phone closer to get a similar framing.
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M8 for 900 euros. S-Should I do it /p/?
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>>2862691
>M8 for 900 euros. S-Should I do it /p/?
maybe if you already have the lenses to go with it. what kind of condition is it in?
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>>2862697
Pretty good condition, CLA in 2010 - 25k clicks. Sadly don't have lenses to go with it yet.
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>>2862700
>Sadly don't have lenses to go with it yet.
your wallet is sitting in a cheap hotel room drinking whiskey and tying a noose right now
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>>2862568
Canon T5i or picking up a used Pentax K-3.

Get the OG k3 the second edition is largely irrelevant.
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>>2862700

Voigtlander has a bunch of lenses for around $300-400.

Do it man.
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>>2862700
All the cheap Leica lenses are 50mm and maybe some of the telephotos. Are you ready to spend a bunch of money on a wide angle lens for your crop sensor? I always have had that issue with the M8, the M system really doesn't seem very friendly to crop sensors.

There's some third party stuff which can be very good like Zeiss and Voightlander, but those are still far from cheap.
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>>2862725
This is awful advice, the k3ii introduced pixel-shift and astrotracking.
Probably the most significant IQ improvements to be made to cameras in recent times.
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Considering either upgrading from a D3300 to a D5500/D7200 or entering the Fuji ecosystem. Comments?
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>>2862818
Just don't go to 5xxx from 3xxx, it's too similar. Fuji is amazing.
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>>2862818
Stay away from Fujii.
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>>2862798
Yeah but only the K-1 can compensate for minute movements.

K-3ii has crazy artifacts if you're not shooting still life from a tripod. Only really useful for product photography.
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>>2862818
If you're shooting Canikon, don't "upgrade" from crop to crop. they all do the same shit and there's no point. If you want to stay on crop DSLR, just buy new lenses, if you want to really upgrade to a new DSLR, buy a D700, they're hella cheap now.

I switched from a D300 to fuji, definitely glad I did. the lenses are amazing and the sensor is definitely the best APS-C available. You won't be disappointed in IQ whatsoever. Just get an XT1 or buy the xpro2, if you can afford it.
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>>2862501

Firmware update:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m722n1081s

Way faster now.
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Hey all, I'm looking at buying a Canon 60D and pic related. Got nothing but a phone and a GoPro in terms of camera gear at the moment so I'm new to the game. Would these two and a decent 24-70mm lens be a good choice to get started? Looking to learn as much as I can and get some great shots of NZ in about 6 months so it'll be a lot of photos of landscapes as well as my girlfriend and I around the place.
Anythoughts on this combo of gear for a starter?

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Id look at a 35mm prime and something really wide like a Sigma 10-20 for doing landscapes.
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Best Telephoto for Nikon under $300 AUD?? New or used it doesn't matter. Looking to do some wildlife and telephoto landscapes
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>>2862860
Probabaly a first gen AF or AF-d lens. You can get a good 70-200/4 for under a 400 I believe. Obviously you'll need a camera with a screw drive.
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>>2862859
10-20? Would that give a bit of a fish eye effect?
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>>2862836
Nikon and Canon sensors aren't even remotely the same thing.

Jesus Christ Fujii cucks are a special breed.

I agree that canon crop sensors have stagnated at the 80d or 7d level, but what has grown is auto focus performance and video performance in the Canon bodies.
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>>2862860
Tamron 70-300 VC?
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Im new to photography but want to shoot alot of nature/landscapes/animals. What would be a good starter DSLR for me?
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>>2862930
I really like the look of this. Thanks anon
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>>2862958
K-50, D3300, A6000 if you want relatively cheap.

Nothing wrong with spending on a midrange camera plus lenses either though, more of a matter of your own budget than you being a beginner. Cameras are easy.
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I want to take pictures of plastic models.

It can be A, E, MD, EF, or M mount.

What would be a good lens to start with?
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where can a homb0i get cheap film at?
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>>2862836
12mp on the D700 is too small for me to spend money on, regardless of low-light performance, especially when its only slightly cheaper than a D5500 in dollary doos.
The XT1 is $100 cheaper than the D7200, but if I get the XT10 I can get a 27mm pancake as well for less than the XT1 and a 16-50mm lens.

A big issue is cost, since I'm travelling towards the end of the year, and I'd like something easier to carry around and more subtle than a DSLR.

>>2862823
>>2862832
You're conflicting each other, but two have said Fuji is good vs one who has said it doesn't, and you didn't give me any reason to believe Fuji sucks.
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>>2863105

There is nothing wrong with Fuji. A little pricey, but good cameras. A little short on lenses though, and with some absolute terrible autofocus on some models. Not that it matters with the fact it can mount almost anything thanks to the short flange distance.

I will say one thing about the Fuji camera though, they look stylish AS FUCK.

I persoanlly went with the A7II. In body image stabalization combined with autofocus support for a-mount lenses had me sold. i wanted a full frame sensor too. The APS-C crop just felt wrong to me. It also has some pretty good autofocus support for ef-mount. There is even an autofocus adapter out now called the Techart Pro that supports pretty much anything.

It is far from a perfect system though. There aren't many full frame e-mount lenses out yet, and the a7ii is rather large and heavy. Not as big as a dslr, but not as compact as the usual mirrorless.
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>>2863105
Fuji sucks at video and AF. Video quality is butts, and in the mirrorless world, the lack of IS (let alone IBIS) means video looks amateurish. This could be a consideration for anybody planning to use the camera as a travel do-it-all camera. Your only worthy options would then be an a7II or a GX8/GX85/E-M5II/E-M10II. AF speed is dependent on the age of the lens, the ubiquitous 35/1.4 being an old laggard. C-AF tracking and accuracy can be a complete crapshoot even in good light; the algorithms are not terribly robust. That said, PDAF does give a surety to the quality of the autofocus at times. The only other thing I don't like is the size of the control dials. They don't stick out enough, and they're thin. The XPro2 is worse in this regard than the XT1/10 I feel.

UX is good. I recently learned that holding any customizable button down for 4 seconds brings up the customization menu for that button, a real nice feature. EVFs are nice and fast across the board. I'm not a fan of the ISO dial, and the aperture rings feel like toys since they're aperture-by-wire. The focus aids are nice, although the split screen is a weird 4-row split screen instead of a single split prism. Film simulation bracketing's a fun feature. RAWs are detailed, malleable, and clean enough to ISO 6400. Lens selection is good and complete, but not particularly cheap. Not overly expensive either. Lens size is not overly large, but only somewhat smaller than FF lenses. Compare to M43 and you have "this is how small?" lenses like the P42.5/1.7 that are ridiculously small. The 16-55 and 50-140 balance poorly on the X-T1, definitely two handers, preferably with battery grip.

If you plan on only ever taking stills, the Fujis are good cameras.
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>>2862104
>>2862129
>>2862293
>>2862584
35 f2is is great. def my favorite prime. i got it for like $400 used last year, its been a while aince i checked but i dont remember price dipping that low in a while
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So I have this deal on used Leica M8 and Biogon 35/2 with BW UV+IR filter for like 1800USD, shutter count around 10k, silver body, black lens. Should I go for it?
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>>2862848
since youre using a crop body, canon has a 17-55 is USM 2.8 which is the 24-70 equiv.

the plus to that is that you get IS unlike the ff $1500 version. So you get that lens for like $550 used, i dont honestly think youll want a 35mm f2 which is only one stop faster. the older 35 f2 doesnt even have usm I think.

the new one is pretty choice, but its like $500+ used which is alot for a focal length you have with only 1 stop faster.

so yeah, just get a 17-55 is usm. i think its got L series elements so its sharp and does CA, only reason its L is cause its crop body only.
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>>2862011
Want to purchase an off camera flash setup. I have 2 choices here

Altura.

-cheaper by 20
-700 reviews

https://www.amazon.com/Altura-Photo-Professional-AP-C1001-Accessories/dp/B00HK0A6LQ/ref=sr_1_2?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1464765557&sr=1-2-spons&keywords=canon+flash&psc=1

Yongnuo
-8 reviews but its a well known company
- seems less clustered with wires and what not

https://www.amazon.com/YN-560IV-Wireless-Speedlite-YN560-TX-Controller/dp/B015ZALVI4/ref=sr_1_8?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1465925308&sr=1-8&keywords=yongnuo

which should i go for?
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>>2863140
>so its sharp and DOESN'T CA, only reason its NOT L is cause its crop only

lord im tired.
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how big is the difference between F and APS-C?

having a really tough internal dilemma between two gear options:

1. 7Dii new ($1200)
with an 18-35 1.8 ($600)

or

2. 5Diii (after 5Div comes out, probably around $1500 used)
with 24-70 2.8 ($1200 used)

already have a 70-200 2.8 and SL1 (both from photo contests I've won). I want to turn this into a side gig at least. I figure the 18-35 with the 70-200 and maybe the sigma 50 1.4 down the line would be the optimum combination with a 7D, just worried if APS-C would really limit me all that much compared to the full frame image. from what im reading on the quality of the 18-35 (aps-c only) and the 50 1.4 theyre already so sharp it wouldn't make much difference to begin with going FF.

I would use either setup for event and concert photography mostly, as well as birding and wildlife stuff on weekends.
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>>2862758
I was planning to get the 35mm f/1.4 Voigtländer. I'll do it.
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>>2863147
yongnuo
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>>2863179
also anybody hear use the 18-35 1.8? reviews seem fantastic and a large part of making me consider sticking with APS-C

is it comparable in image quality to the canon 24-70 2.8? the focal range isn't too huge a deal for me as I have a 50 1.8 and 70-200
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>>2863179
>>2863203

no 1.6 crop factor, ff has way better iso performance, cant use aps-c lenses.

if I could go full frame I would. I'll probably have to wait for 6d mark ii in 5 years.

I'm actually using an SL1 too actually.

can you post a picture of the 70-200 2.8 mounted onto the sl1 for giggles?
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>>2863203
>>2863179
for what its worth, you can mount the 18-35 on full frame but theres light fall off. if you're doing stills, it may be correctable in lightroom.
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>>2862836
>If you're shooting Canikon, don't "upgrade" from crop to crop. they all do the same shit
ignore this anon, he's a brain damaged fucknut.

I have a canon rebel xti (crop), canon 7d mk2 (another crop from canon) and the difference between them feels like 10x performance overall.
Double the resolution, triple the frame-rate at least, 10x better autofocus, video capability where my xti has none, a thousand custom options in the menu instead of like 10, double card capture for important shots, much better algorithms, basically every single thing is an enormous improvement between my two canon crop bodies.

I picked up a full frame canon 6d after the crop 7d-2, no big excitement. If I rated my bodies I'd put rebel xti crop (60%), 6D full-frame (85%), 7d-II crop (90%.)
If I'd gone for 5d-III instead of 6D then I'm sure it would be a step ahead of my 7d-II, but for 1200+ extra dollary-doos. And I know nikon FF prices are just as bad.
Full frame is massively overrated unless price is not involved in the calculation at all.
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>>2862836
>don't "upgrade" from crop to crop. they all do the same shit and there's no point
wew
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>>2863195

Awesome. Post pixs of its condition and stuff.

I actually picked up the voigtlander 40mm f 1.4 and was very impressed. 35mm is the same lens but shorter I think.
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>>2863263
eBay just removed the auction due to the account of seller being hacked.
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Is there a affordable fisheye for Canon with autofocus? Or is it better value to get a manual with better optics?
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>>2863179
All of those things you would use the setup for are ideal for APS-C because you get much more out of your telephotos. Since the difference between a 300mm f4 or f2.8 on APS-C and a 400/500mm of the same speed on FF is several thousand dollars it's kind of a big deal.

And for birding you'd have to be absolutely stupid to go FF; you can never have enough tele.

But this board is mostly just snapshitters and people walking around taking the same cliche photos so expect a lot of people telling you to get the FF meme.


Jesus fuck, recommending FF for birding and wildlife. Forgive them, for they know not what they do.
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unexpectedly I got a medium format enlarger today
this is kinda neat
what's a good paper to start with for someone who never did this before?

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>>2863273

Maybe this is a "stupid question thread" question but couldn't you get the same out of an FF body by just cropping the the pic in post?

Yeah you're throwing away some of the mega pickles, but that's why you have too many to begin with.
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>>2863288
Most FF cameras have an option to go into APS-C mode.
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>>2863274
Ilford RC Pearl.
Buy a 100pk in 5x7 and report back when you've printed the whole lot.
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>>2863288
You could, but then you end up with inferior pixel density and a substantially smaller final image.


>>2863289
But a problem with APS-C mode is you have to work with a much smaller masked-off viewfinder, and still get the reduced resolution results mentioned above.
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>>2863268
Not really much need for autofocus on a wide as fuck fisheye lad.
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Are there any decent flashes that fit most L39 rangefinders (not necessarily for a Lecia) without costing a fortune?
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>>2863291
thanks, m8
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>>2863317
Why would you not at least tell us what camera? What does the lens mount have to do with a flash? That's not where you connect the flash.

If the camera has a hotshoe then you can put a flash on there, but if it's a really ancient camera it may work on a different voltage from modern flashes and you may fry something, check and make your camera and flash combination is safe. If not then if it has a sync port you can connect a flash with a sync cable, if not then I guess you can't use a flash.
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>>2863291
I would recommend a few sheets of 8x10 paper too, especially if he's doing medium format he may as well try some bigger prints.

Ilford RC pearl is a good choice though, it's my favorite RC paper that I've tried and I like it enough that it's convinced me not to bother with fiber paper anymore.
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New waifu just came in, happy birthday to me. What's new for you this week /p/?

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>>2863340
It's a coldshoe mount with a sync port (Zorki). So basically any flash will do that fits a coldshoe?
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>>2863345
Well a coldshoe has no electrical contacts, so you'll need to slide it into the coldshoe to hold it in place but also connect a cable to the sync cord to trigger the flash.

>>2863344
No new gear, but on a related note I did nicely arrange all my gear and I wanted to have some gear related decoration so I printed out this sweet F3 magazine ad and I think it looks pretty good. I hope you like your F3, I love mine.

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>>2863294

Wouldn't m43 be better then?
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>>2863274
Definitely buy some 8x10, the 5x7 isn't the same aspect, and you'll just be cropping, or end up with unused space. The 8x10 lets you use the whole space.

If the cropping doesn't bother you, the 100 sheets of 5x7 is a good deal, and it fits 35mm prints if you decide to do that.

As >>2863341 said, can't recommend the RC Pearl paper enough. It's excellent. Pic related is 6x7 neg on 8x10 RC Pearl.

>>2863346
Damn that ad is slick. I love the camera, had one before but it was defective unfortunately. Finally got around to getting another one. Unfortunately the lens that was sent with it is FULL of dust and shit, but considering I got the combo for 200 bucks I'm not complaining. I have an 85 1.8D and a D700 on the way, any other lens recs?

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>>2863351
85mm f/1.8D is good, but I recently got this 85mm f/1.8G and it's amazing how hella sharp it is wide open. If you're not bokeh whoring, then the D is just as good stopped down, but the D was always nothing special wide open while the G is really really good. I have a D700 too by the way, are you me?

I also like the 28mm f/2.8 AI-s, it's a really good lens and I think it has a bit of a nice character to it too which I can't really explain. Unfortunately mine died due to oil on the aperture blades and I gave it to someone to keep if he could fix it. I'm waiting for another one to pop up on KEH so I can buy it.

The 50mm f/1.8G is really good too, I think it's the best 50mm Nikon has made. I'm a huge fan of this new series of f/1.8G primes Nikon is making and I've tried out the 28, 50, and 85 and I think they're all great.

That other lens on the far left in my photo is the 105mm f/2.5 AI-s. Everyone seems to love it and it's definitely a nice lens but I find the focal length kind of awkward, personally.

I don't really like zooms so I can't recommend any.

Also excuse the huge photo, but here's the ad picture which I printed. There's a blog I found with a bunch of cool old camera ads and stuff scanned in pretty high resolution. This one I photoshopped out most of the dust and tried to line up the two pages, I could probably try to clean up the seam in the middle and stuff too but I sort of like how you can tell it's an old magazine ad this way.

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I'm finally pretty much ready to pull the trigger on a Bronica SQ-A, but I have a couple of questions because I know a few anons here have experience with these cameras. I want to start with a barebones kit to see if I like it first, so I'm getting just an SQ-A body, a waistlevel finder, an 80mm f/2.8 PS lens, and a single back. Does that seem like a good place to start? If I really like it I may look into getting 50mm and 150mm lenses, a prism finder, and maybe another back or two.

I'm buying from KEH so I trust everything to be in pretty good shape, but I've read that the film backs are the usual failure point so I'm trying to hopefully get a good one which won't shit the bed. I see that they have a lot of different backs, the one I'm thinking of getting says it's an SQ/SQA/SQAM 120 back and I think I'll splurge on the EX condition one over the BGN. Is there any point getting one of the more expensive backs which are seemingly later models, if all I'm using is an SQ-A body? I'm not sure if they were upgraded to be more reliable or anything like that.
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Anyone knows where to buy a Ricoh GR (I) in the UK? Couldn't find any dealers selling new ones and ebay does not have any at the moment. I'm getting quite desperate, one just slipped away as well since some guy outbid me by 1 pound.

I could buy a Coolpix A from Amazon new but it looks to me that Ricoh Gr is in every way superior to that camera.
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>>2863360
The new G lenses are really good but I really want to get lenses that can pull double duty on both cams, so I gotta stick with D lenses. I'll probably just pick up a 50 1.8D or that 28.
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New to /p/, relatively new to photography. What's a good beginner camera for someone who primarily takes photos at night?
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>>2863403
Sony A7sII
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>>2863405
>question about entry level
>trolls with $3000 body
fuck right off
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>>2863405
>>2863414
Goddamn I'm so new I didn't know if this was a troll or not. Can you give me a rec?
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Just bought a Nikon d500 with carry case, purple lens filter, all the cables an 18-55 lens, and an 55-200 lens. It also came with an opteka water case that leaks though (might use it for rain though). All this for 275$.
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>>2863418
>d500
>275$

It was stolen, and they didn't know what they had.
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>>2863380
Doing double duty is a nice idea, but honestly I absolutely hate trying to manually focus autofocus lenses and using manual focus lenses on AF bodies is kind of a pain too. That's why I ended up getting an F100 too so I can do film or digital with AF lenses and then I can use the MF bodies with silky smooth MF lenses like god intended.
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>>2863432
this tbqh. The focus ring on the 50/1.8D is ass, and there's clearly lots of friction between plastic parts. The manual aperture is nice otherwise, and it's certainly not completely terrible to MF on a MF body with AF-D lenses.

The 28/2.8D is ass though.

>>2863423
Clearly it's a D5000.
>>2863418
Which version of the 18-55 and 55-200? The 55-200 is ok, not terrific or anything. The original non-VR 18-55 is eh, the first VR one is breddy gud, and the second VR one is even breddy gudder.
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Canon T1i
So I was trying to search the net on upgrades. I figured maybe a software patch for higher res or something (hey I've seen it on camera phones). And I found all kinds of stuff on body and sensor upgrades.
Is any of it worth it?
I bought this on closeout when the T3's came out, so good price at the time. Chose the canon because I have a ton of lenses for my old AE1 program (ya ya, didn't know it still needed an adapter) but my setup works fine for screwing around.
Not interested in any new equipment, just curious if I can get more out of this setup-easily.
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>>2863348
If you want shithouse autofocus it would
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>>2863453
Why not just FF with a teleconverter?
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>>2863460
Have you priced up ff + good teleconverter compared to apsc? Also they slow focus, and you lose 1-2 stops.
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>>2863348
>>2863453
This

Also there aren't really any good native M43 superteles, and while cutting the corners off a FF lens is good for APS-C by the time you get down to a smaller sensor it's really pushing the lens a lot further and IQ will start to degrade, plus whatever troubles the janky-ass lens adapters bring. And while APS is catching up to FF in noise performance with every new generation M43 is rather stagnant.

>>2863460
Substantial light loss and unless you're using a 1.4x (in which case you might as well use a crop body) a large sacrifice in quality and AF. Say we've got a 300mm f4. On APS it's functionally a 450mm f4. FF with a 1.4x TC brings it to around a 420mm f5.6 with a degradation in AF performance. With the same TC on APS you'd have a substantial 630mm f5.6. I know which one I'd rather have.
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>>2863440
You're right it is a d5000 it says VR on it, and the pictures look a lot nicer than than the 18-55.
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So today my D80 decided to an hero itself. The shutter/mirror hopelessly jammed itself while stalking some seagulls and their seachickies. It would cost less to get another used D80 than it would to get it fixed.

I've been thinking about switching to Canon lately since from what I can tell it gives you better control over video, which is something I've been wanting to get back into.

So to my actual question: How (un)realistic is it to replicate my current Nikon setup with Canon gear without spending a ton of extra money?

What I currently have is:
Late '80s Nikon 80-200mm 2.8 push/pull, about $300
Sigma 10-20mm 4-5.6, about $320
Nikon 50mm 1.8, about $150

pic somewhat related, one of the last pics I got before my D80 rip in peace'd.

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>>2863346
Thanks for the clarification. Though are those flash sync cords generally universal? Also, are there any sort models out there that are in abundance I can easily find? If I for some reason need any adapters I'll buy them.
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Just got a hold of a bogen pro tripod. What do I do now?
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>>2863492
They're called PC connectors, and they have been standard for literally like 100 years. The same little round socket on your Zorki is the same one you'll find on any other camera or flash. Which is kind of unfortunate because it's a pretty shitty delicate little connector, but at least it's standard.

As for the flash, you don't need any fancy automated TTL features or anything like that, so any flash you can find for cheap that makes bright bursts of light will do.

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What do you guys think of the X-Pro 1 in this day and age? It seems like you can get one for less than $400 used. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to see one in person, but I have tried out the X-Pro 2 and it's pretty amazing for the short 15 minutes I got to play with it. Are they just too different to tell? The reason I'm thinking about switching from my K5ii is because the K5 feels too large to bring around. However, the X-Pro2 did seem pretty huge. Maybe I should just get an a6000 instead?
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>>2863112
Thanks for the advice. I'm alright with the price as long as the X-T10 is worth getting, since its mostly going to be for snapshits where I don't want to carry a full DSLR kit (I like my 50mm, but I hate when its too narrow and I miss a great shot). I was considering a Sony A6000 when I was buying my first camera, but Sony has fucked me over with so many of their other products that I didn't want to buy into an ecosystem that might have something proprietary just for the sake of it (an Xperia Play I used to have had a proprietary 3.5mm jack for some reason).

>>2863115
I'm not too worried about video. The only time I've used it is when I had to film something for a job on my DSLR, and I already knew how to set it up so it turned out fine. One of my issues when deciding was whether I could hold either a X-T10 or 1 comfortably since I have big hands (20cm from edge of wrist to the edge of my long finger), and even with the D3300 I feel like its a bit small. But if its big enough for my hands, its too big to be a pocket camera sized mirrorless (I'd mostly use the 27mm, but I would get it in a bundle with a 16-50mm so I wasn't left with only one focal length).
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>>2863517
save up for the xpro2 if you can afford it. on the other hand, consider the XT1.

If you really want to spend all the money on glass, you can't go wrong with an Xpro1 though. Yes, it is slow in some situations. Yes it has quirks, and sometimes I find myself cursing it on the street. But generally I love it, and it takes amazing pictures, being old doesn't stop it from being good.

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>>2863256
I guess the difference between my current crop and the upgrade crop is 0% difference in resolution, added wifi, a top deck screen, weather sealing, and a bunch of technical improvements (bigger buffer, longer battery life, more AF points, faster shutter, more card slots, and I think commander mode for brand flashes). So its definitely an improvement over the D3300, but is it a $1,200 improvement?
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Am I right in thinking this is some sort of soft release attachment? Can anyone tell me what it is exactly?

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>>2863368
I've got 3 different backs for my sq that I bought as cheap as possible from ebay and they all preform fine. Stick to the PS lenses if you can, they're marginally better than the regular ones. The prism finder is pretty heavy and bulks the camera up some, if you're going to be transporting / hiking / packing the camera out to places, the WLF will be just fine and you'll be glad you saved the weight.

Don't get a SQAM. They're harder to fix and find parts for.
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>>2863368
Your line of thinking is good, anon. Springing for the EX back will provide some good peace of mind. I have an SQ-B I've been bashing around for a couple years and it has held up very well. A WLF can be strange if you haven't used one before, and you might not like it. Keep an eye out for the 45 degree prism- I use it and it makes both handheld and tripod shooting a breeze. Overall, I think you'll love the camera!
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>>2863528
I found a deal that includes a couple of lenses for under $400. I can't really afford the xpro2, but I'm thinking of selling my K-5 since I don't really use it anymore and I'd probably be selling it for a profit since I got it at a low price. I just wished I could check out the xpro1 in person. Thanks for the advice!
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>>2863545
>search Nikon AR-1
>???
>you're a huge spoonfed faggot, go kill yourself and never procreate lest you infest the genepool with your retarded offspring
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>>2863559
oh, so it is a soft release. Thanks!
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>>2863510
Put your camera on it and take a picture
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>>2863510

Videos of yourself masturbating.
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Just ordered one of these converters for my X100T. I hope it doesn't make it too unwieldy...

Anyone used one? I've been pining for a 50mm for a while...
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>>2863645

>buy fixed lens camera
>buy converters

top fucking kek
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Hey guys. Buying my first DSLR for my 21st and need some help. In my price range I have basically narrowed it down to the Canon 760d (t6s i believe to you americans) with a 18-135mm and the Nikon D5500 18-55mm. I mostly shoot landscapes but I want to do some portraits, video and timelapses.
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>>2863676

buy a second hand 600d with efs 10-18, efs 18-55 stm, 50 1.8 and a tripod
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>>2863645

It does throw out the balance of the camera and is particularly noticeable when hanging on a strap because the body will tend to tilt forward.

I find the X100 has insufficient grip to walk around with it in hand with no strap - I use a arca swiss plate/grip which solves that problem, but it also makes having the TCL/WCL lens attached easier to handle.

Its easy to attach and remove, but you have to remember to select the relevant TCL/WCL/none setting, this can be to the Q menu and has an icon on the EVF/LCD and possibly OVF to indicate which setting is active.

I have a Sigma 18-35mm and the X100T+TCL combo has replaced that lens for me due to the Sigma AF incosistency, I only use my DSLR for telephoto lenses now
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>>2863645
the tele and wide converters are the best.
the x70 wide converter is huge though.
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>>2863676
a6000 + kit lens + sigma 19mm f2.8 + sony 50mm 1.8.
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I'll be travelling with just my packpack (osprey farpoint 40) and I'll be carrying my canon 650d.

What kind of bag should i buy to fit in my backpack relatively safe and cheap.
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>>2863218
shit phone pic for ya. it indeed looks quite retarded but its surprisingly pretty well balanced!!

ended up ordering the sigma 18-35, hoping it blows my socks off so i can stick with APS-C and literally use it for 90% of everything. looks sexy as fuq, needs to get here NAO!
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>>2862298
if you have a tripod AND a fast lens you can do both tripod and hand held photos. its called versatility... a cheap tripod will be like $25
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>>2862340
You already spent some money. If on a budget, go for a camera insert. Chances are you already have a nice bag you like where you can carry your laptop+notebooks. Just customize it, friend.
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k-70 or k-3 ii?
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>>2863218
Wish I kept a picture of my D3100 with 70-200/2.8 VR2 on it. SL1anon might think his Sigma is well balanced, but the VR2 was a boat anchor by comparison to the body.
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>>2863961
K-70 - consumer
K-3 II - prosumer

latter, ofc
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>>2862844
wow very nice
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>>2863203
I personally own it and love it BUT:

1. Outer AF points are not reliable
2. CENTER AF points aren't that reliable compared to first party premium zooms, even with dock. Still pretty good tho.
3. AF is clicky and fairly loud compared to even fucking Tamron SP lenses. Still fairly quiet tho.

But there's nothing else like it and it's extremely practical. And sticking with APS-C is easier than ever thanks to the new 50-150 f1.8.
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>>2863534
that's why you have the silly idea crops stay the same.

D3300 they put all the money into an unneeded excess of mega-pickles and left out autofocus points, cross-type autofocus (only 1 instead of 15+), shots per second, battery, wifi, metal body, weather-sealing, pixel size and low light performance, top display, viewfinder magnification, headphone jack to have any audio recording idea until after its too late, shutter lag performance, dual card slots for important shoots, pentaprism viewfinder, RAW buffer for continuous shooting, on-sensor phase detection for video, GPS, touchscreen, swivel screen, low-light focusing, and it even lacks basic auto-exposure bracketing (pretty shocking)

The D3300 is the equivalent of one of those cars where they drop a Porsche racing engine into a discount body with no air conditioning, crank-knob non-electronic windows, cassette player for music, no traction control or other assists to not skid out every corner, no suspension to make the ride comfortable, cheap tires that slide and don't last long, fuel too low octane for the engine, missing air-bag and no fancy crumple zone to save your life when it crashes.
Sure, the horsepower (mega-pickles) is impressive, but they used that as an excuse to leave out everything else that makes a body good or even Average.
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>>2863852
Does no one here travel with 1 packpack and carrying DSLR or no one wants to answer me?

Ugh, guys...I need to find some smaller bag to carry my canon that fits in farpoint 40l.
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>>2863996

I mean I get what you're saying, but that analogy is terrible senpai. I, for one, would love a 930 RS with a 993's air cooled engine in it. Or the 4.0. Bias ply tires gotta go though.
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>>2864001
How are you going to shoot if your camera's in your backpack, senpai? Get a shoulder bag if you must, but your camera's not going to break rattling around in your backpack. Not unless you've got rocks in there too anyways. Wrap it in a towel if you're a bitch.
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>>2864005
My dear fampai, I'll be hitchhiking which also means walking a lot with nothing to shoot and extra bag will just get on my nerves so I need to be able to put it in my backpack from time to time and it needs to be small as possible.
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>>2864001
I just toss it into my regular backpack along with my laptop. I think it looks less dorky and conspicuous that way. If there is not enough room in my backpack, I carry it in a cheap briefcase.
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>>2864010
I'll have lot of stuff in there so ya, I'm kinda afraid it might break since I'll be walking a lot.

I need at least some kind of protection around it, very small bag that just fits right.
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>>2864014
I don't see how it can break unless you put a lot of weight on it or plan to toss it over a clifff. Bring along some 1 gallon freezer bags for waterproofing.
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Can anybody convince me why I shouldn't buy a 1D3 to shoot birds and sports? I'm not super into these things, that's why I want an older, used body.
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>>2864027
So why waste the money? Why buy an ancient pro body when a current body probably has more than sufficient autofocus and a less ancient sensor? The money's better invested in a lens. The only advantage of those bodies is using it as a bludgeoning weapon.
>>2864009
So just put it in your bag. It doesn't need it's own bag, taking up space in your pack. Wrap it in a towel. Cameras are pretty robust.
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>>2864035
I have a 6D and I have good glass. I just don't have a capable body to keep up with the demands of a subject that doesn't stop moving, or the spray-and-pray nature of birding.
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>>2863488

Cannon's glass is cheaper right now senpai. Sell your Nikon glass and you can pocket the difference. Not a bad investment.
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Just bought this and the adapter so I can use it with my Mamiya M645 camera. Super fast for medium format and it makes you wonder why lens manufacturers don't take risks and make unique designs like this anymore? Medium Format still lacks equivalents to lenses that 35mm and smaller formats have, regardless of which MF system you invest in. Medium format still lacks the following:
>superfast wide-angles and portrait lenses
>fast-aperture macro lenses
>fast supertelephotos
>wide-angle and telephoto macro lenses
>lenses longer than 600mm
Where are the 55mm or even 35mm f/2.0s? Where are the 400mm f/2.8s? where are the f/2.8 macro lenses? where are the f/4 supertelephotos? I know it would be expensive but it's not like ALL the R&D has to go in to the camera. There's no point in a good camera system if the lens selection is limited and boring
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Any four-thirds users out there? I have a really nice Olympus Zuiko 50-200mm lens I use for bird photography, but I'm on my 2nd E-3 body and it's not in good shape anymore.. broken auto-focus sensor, cracked LCD screen, etc. Anyway, it feels stupid paying a lot for 10 year old technology, so I figure I could get a new micro four-thirds body and an adapter for my lens. I'm not so sure how it will work though. Have any of you fellas tried a setup like this?

Pic is from my current beat-down manual focus setup.
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i'm looking into a wide lens for my D5000 and it got pretty difficulty since it's a cropped body.

i wanted a auto focus BUT... you know... i dont know if its worth it since i just wanted it for travels (lost time focusing) so i've come to some options:
AF-S NIKKOR 20mm f/1.8G ED ($750)
Nikon AF NIKKOR 20mm f/2.8D Lens ($620)
Tokina AT-X 116 PRO DX-II 11-16mm f/2.8 ($450)
Nikon AF NIKKOR 24mm f/2.8D Lens ($400)
Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 IF ED UMC ($380)
Nikon AF NIKKOR 28mm f/2.8D Lens ($290)

I'm tented to go w/ Nikkor 20mm f/2.8D
Also, the autofocus on Tokina will work on my D5000?
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>>2864036
>sell 6D
>put money+1D3 money towards 1D4 or 5D3
>???
Why bother collecting bodies you won't use? The 1D3 will feel positively ancient.

>>2864059
Who would buy these things? What are people going to do with such thin DOF, and such large glass?

>>2864088
The 20/2.8 is a $400 lens, tops. The 24's going to end up at 36mm. The 11-16 should AF, and is the best choice here.

>>2864075
The only cameras worth bothering to do that for are the E-M1, and the unreleased E-M2. The OSPDAF will be critical to 4/3rds lens AF operation.
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>>2864093
>Who would buy these things? What are people going to do with such thin DOF, and such large glass?
Portrait and wedding photogs mostly, but /p/ is all about deadpan and street shots so they tend to pretend like people who want shallow DoF don't exist. Unless you're talking about these hypothetical lenses in which I could see them being used for environmental portraiture or astrophotography
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>>2863147
Get godox tt850s. They use Li-ions that are rechargable and you get twice as many flashes out of a charge.
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>>2864093
>The only cameras worth bothering to do that for are the E-M1, and the unreleased E-M2. The OSPDAF will be critical to 4/3rds lens AF operation.

Hey thanks! I appreciate the advice.
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>>2864088
I have the tok 11-16 for Canon, and it's a nice lens. The version ii you are looking at should af on your body, as it has the motor built into the lens.
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>>2864102
>>2864093

Thanks!

But my body will crop the Tokina, right? The D7000 also crops?

Also, the old version is a IF, how does it work?
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Trying to clean the mirror in my AE-1P and my focusing screen popped out, fell on my finger, and now looks like this. Viewfinder is extremely blurry. Any way to save it or should I order a replacement? Thanks /p/

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>>2864113
Order a replacement or clean it, try to line the screen back up with the holder and put it back in
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>>2864116
Yeah the screen refuses to go back into the holder, and I'm already using a pretty dangerous amount of force. Guess I'm ordering a replacement.
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Looking at getting my first ND filter for daytime long exposure landscapes. Is Tiffen any good or do I really need to spend a billion dollars on what is essentially darkened plastic/glass?
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Family friend is having a garage sale, and I can have first dibs on his old camera equipment, if I want. I know its a Nikon film SLR with a set of lenses, but he didn't remember the model number, or which lenses, so I just have to show up and look at them.

What should I look for with regards to its condition? Especially regarding the body. I know to watch out for the light seals breaking up, but what else should I make sure to test? I'm wary since I've heard that some cameras don't like being cocked and fired without film, and that sometimes with a damaged camera trying to do so can just damage the workings further.
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>>2864122
Welding glass+tape. Of course, nice NDs don't have color cast, which is what you're paying for.

>>2864120
If it came out, it'll probably go back in. Play it smart, don't force it.

>>2864095
MF already has thin DOF. How much thinner do you want? Your subject's not going to be in focus at this rate. DOF isn't all aperture you know; subject and background relative distances is equally important. MF has all the sweet DOF you need.

>and dont forget deep tones

>>2864108
IF presumably means internally focused. Elements inside move to focus, not the front or rear elements. The Tokina's a crop lens anyways, so it's designed to give that 16-24mm equivalent.
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>>2864124
Check that the shutter isn't damaged, any sagging shutter curtains or anything like that is an instant red flag. I can't think of any cameras that can't be dry fired, definitely not any Nikons. Fire the shutter all you want and test every speed and look through it and everything. The shutter and mirror actuating properly are pretty much the biggest thing to check for.

Other than that just look it over and try playing with everything and see if it all seems to work right, it's not really that complicated. It's hard to give any more specific advice without knowing what it is.
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>>2864124
Look at the shutter, battery compartment, and mirror box. Check the meter is accurate, the shutter fires for the correct amount of time (at least, with longer speeds), the viewfinder is in focus, and for AF bodies, the AF matches the viewfinder. Ask your friend if his parents were dirty casuals (probably midtier camera with mid tier lenses) or real prosumers (F90X, FE2, good AIS lenses could be in your future, but only if you respond to this post saying "Arigato, Nippon Kogaku").
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>>2864124
>dry firing is bad

That is some guns and compound bows, not cameras.
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>>2864128
Oops. Forgot to add: check the self timer function. It's not such a big deal with the electronic cameras (most things are guaranteed to work as long as the switches work), but the older cameras are theoretically susceptible to failure. Still unlikely.

Lenses should focus accurately and smoothly. Aperture should function smoothly as well. Glass ideally should be free of oil and fungus. If you're adventurous, MF lenses are relatively easy to service.

If you're a Nikon shooter, bring your body to test lenses for decentering/out of focus.

Most important: bring AAs and LR44s. Visit a dollar store for LR44s.

Ask for a description of the camera. Chunky old thing? Manual focus, bring LR44s, AIS or D lenses. Molten piece of cheese? 90s AF camera, bring AAs, D and G lenses.
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>>2864124
>this guntard believing you can't move a shutter without a piece of film behind it, even though film never touches the shutter at all
whoever told you that is retarded
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>>2864128
Domo arigato, Nippon Kogaku

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>>2864108
The tokina is a crop lens. None of the lenses you listed will be their listed focal length, you need to apply the crop factor to all of them. Focal length is always listed at ff (35mm equivalent) sensor size and flange distance.
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>>2864125
The DoF shouldn't be overly shallow, it's a 180 f/2.8 and the 300 f/4 for its native system has shallower DoF. I got the lens mainly for more reach and most of the other 180mm lenses were slower and more expensive
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>>2864142
Focal length is an inherent property of a lens design. It has nothing to do with the camera you put it on or what sensor size it's supposed to cover or any 35mm equivalencies or any of that shit.

What you are thinking of is angle of view. Angle of view is dependent on BOTH the focal length and the sensor size. Angle of view is actually how wide your lens can see, which is the thing that you actually care about when choosing a lens.

Out of convenience, photographers say a focal length when what they really mean is an angle of view, and in doing so everyone has to assume a 35mm size sensor coupled with that given focal length to give the angle of view which is what you are actually talking about. This means that you then also have to do a conversion factor if you're using a sensor that isn't 35mm size. The lens is not turning into another focal length when you do that conversion, it's just giving a different angle of view.

It's probably a pain to have to learn this technical stuff if you don't give a shit about it, but it helps with understanding the jargon and all the misunderstandings and misleading things that people say about lenses.

Also flange distance has nothing to do with any of this.
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Any recommendations for a beginner camera? Mainly looking to do outdoors photography/night stuff. Not really sure on budget, I'd say $600 absolute maximum. Would prefer a camera that isn't too big.

Thanks.
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>>2862091
Nikon, because us sonyggers atleast get the full focal length we pay for and not some focus breathing bs
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>>2862122
Rico gr2
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>>2864001
NatGep Walkabout or Earth Explorer.
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>>2864153
K-S2 or wait for the K-70
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>>2862091

As an A7II user, I'd rather just get the Canon 70-300. It is only $400 here and works great with the newer adapters on a psdaf body.
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>>2862122
>abandoned urban areas
groundbreaking
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>>2864181

Is anything really groundbreakimg now-a-days?

Everything has been done a dozen times over.
You should just take pictures of what you want and enjoy yourself.
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>>2864126
>>2864128
>>2864131
thanks anons, I'll get some batteries. Can't bring lenses or a digital body since I'm not in Nikon's system though.
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>>2864113

once you touch a focusing screen it's impossible to clean your finger grease off of it.

you are gonna need to buy a new one
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>>2864122

you should just use multiple exposures and stacking. no matter how fancy and expensive an ND filter is, it will degrade your image quality.
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>>2862059
>22 FE lenses
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>>2862241
how so? D7200 upgrade would really worth, maybe if you only take stills and not worry too much about battery life, then go mirrorless
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Currently deciding between buying a ricoh GR or a fuji x70 - which one of those would you guys rec and why?
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>>2863375
why does it specifically need to be in the UK? Look up the german sites, they usually sell for cheaper and shipping shouldn't be a big deal
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>>2864212

22 full frame?

How many APS-C?
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I'm a poor student in Germany. Right now I'm mostly working with a Samsung Nx2000. Everything about it is limiting me, especially the speed and the shitty kit lens. I need a camera that is able to film at least decent 1080p and that is taking decent pictures out of the box. Bonus points for small form factor. I'm shooting everything from people over motorcycle races to landscapes. Do you guys have a recommendation? Buying used is ok for me.
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>>2864241

>1080p video, compact

Fuji Mirrorless or Sony E-Mount

You can get an old NEX for dirt cheap. A newer a5100 can be had for about $400.
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>>2864244
I would like to have a real viewfinder for the pictures. That was another issue I had with my Samsung.
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>>2864260
Used K-30 or K-50
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>>2864260

The Fuji and Sony have EVFs.

There are no compact cameras with old styled view finders.
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>>2864269
>>2864260

a6300 has a fantastic evf.

Probably too expensive though.
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>>2864281
Fantastic EVF is an oximoron
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>>2864283
your mom is an oxymoron
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>>2863984
my ideal kit is simple:

7Dii
18-35 for 90% of everything
my 40mm pancake with my SL1 as a superlight backup
my 70-200 for birding/wildlife

just hoping I don't get the short straw and draw one of the 17-35s with shit AF out of the box. seems to be a crapshoot and the bigest drawback with sigma in general, though my 70-200 has perfect AF (but ive had a 17-70 that had a broken AF as well... really bad odds)
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