I'm sick of all the following:
> macro
> hdr
> landscape
> bokeh
> portraits
> candid pictures of assholes at parties
> pictures of old or homeless people
> poverty tourism
> posed pictures of people being cute
> group pictures
> 'my own photographic voice'
> 'personal brand'
> '''street photography'''
> invasive HONY sob stories of people with boring pathetic lives
> post processing
its all bull crap.
Here is some inspiration:
> http://img.shnapsus.ru/2013-05-01_12-55-17/1255421513.JPG
> http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/criminalminds/images/9/90/Ruby_shoots_Oswald.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130718170431
> https://iconicphotos.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/kevin-carter-vulture.jpg
> http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18khvfi0dzcpgjpg/original.jpg
What are some redpilled photography books that cut through all the mampy pamby touchy feely cruft?
>>2836958
So you just want good photojournalistic shots? Because that's what I got from your post here.
>using the term redpill
lol someone didnt get any in high school
>>2836966
Yeah, it's hard to see much else once landscape and portraits are eliminated. That's literally "I don't like pretty settings or pretty people" so it can't just be an appealing picture, and no "my own photographic voice" so it can't be artsy, you're really just left with "so you want the news?"
>>2836970
>Thinking you can't have your own photographic style or voice doing landscapes or portrait
That's why you'll never be a good photographer
>>2836972
No, you can mix all these things. You can have an artsy photo of pretty people in a pretty setting, but those are all basically what the earth is. People and things that aren't people. My point isn't that these are categories, but that if you rule out humans and the earth as appealing subject matter for being inherently attractive, and if you say you also don't want to see artistic expression because voice is bad, you're basically left with just "objective material that is interesting because it relevant to our world".
>>2836966
no, obviously these shots could only have come about in extreme circumstances.
>>2836970
>>2836972
there is something artificial about the current state of photography but I don't know how to articulate it.
everything has kind of converged to some kind of weird, uniform 'pinterest' style. people are trying to out-cliche each other and whoever can conform to cliches the best is lauded as a 'really good photographer.'
look through some instagram travel, fashion, or street photography accounts. even the candid, non-posed stuff is pretty dumb.
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There are some excellent monographs of historic auto racing photographers' work, if you're into that kind of thing. I've seen a few get dumped in the Motor Madness threads here, and they often get reviewed in the car mags I read, but I can't name any off the top of my head.
I really enjoy Joe McNally's books, but they're not really compilations of incredible images, more like just good inspo. (Especially for lighting setups.)
>>2836990
That's because there is more to composition in a photo than the average person realizes. They subvertley use gimmicks to make up for the lack of various elements in their work. Most people don't even realize they are doing it and mistake x gimmick for an element that is important.
>>2836990
Is this shitty and in the pinterest style?
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>>2837000
that photo is not even worth showing to the public.
that is just really, reallyreally bad uninteresting crappic of some not even very nice looking clouds
the only interesting thing about this pic is how you still managed to get something so obviously at infinity out of focus
good pic though
>>2837003
what are you, bipolar?
>>2836958
Those photos you posted are of significant things. Assassination, medical experimentation, starvation, death.
They have a deeper meaning than photos taken for the sake of style. First post basically nailed it but the photojournalism is life or death. Not easy to be in a situation to photograph that whereas it's a lot easier to replicate some technique.
The closest thing you can probably get to what I imagine you want is to use photos to help tell a serious story related to death, sickness, or suffering.
I see what you mean, photojournalism is a pretty neat style. The quest for something genuine I guess
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>>2836990
Truth. It's also due to how easy and cheap digital cameras have made things. You don't even have to get in your car to get your film processed anymore. Snap a photo > apply some filters > insta-art. Look at super popular travel instagram accounts and they are all identical. If you mixed the photos from multiple accounts up you probably couldn't separate them based on photographer.
>>2836958
How'd I do OP?
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>>2836967
Woah man, I never got anything past dick showers in blood from women tighter than my grandmas stitching before the arthritis.
You don't see me using bullshit terms like redpill, fuckouttahere
>>2836990
>there is something artificial about the current state of photography but I don't know how to articulate it.
Basically you're disenchanted with photography because with the digital revolution, the photographic process has been simplified/dumb down thus it brings in a lot of shit quality photos with the latter subjects about cruelity, death, crime, etc hasn't changed much (being that it's a tougher subject matter to tackle).
Sure, I understand where you're coming from to some extent. From what I see, there is two contributing factors: the first is since the digital revolution sharing images has become too easy. There was a ton of shitty images in the film days too but because the platform, such as the Internet, didn't exist yet many got filtered out and only images of the REAL good ones remain. Now you're over stimulated with shitty photos because everyone and their dogs are photographers these days.
The second follows up with my last point. Not a lot of people take the time to study photography and it really shows in their work; like the generic Instagram tier sunset pictures that's overtly saturated. The colours literally over power their subject matter, in fact, most landscapes these days that I've seen, colour IS the subject foremost.
Tl;dr Internet + no art/photo education = a lot of shit images
>>2837372
You're just mad you don't know how to into visual interest, bro
>>2837601
instagram photographer detected
I agree that we're flooded with shit quality images AND there isn't enough photojournalism on web, but the problem i think is that shit pays off and photojournalists, i know one and i'm going to organize his exhibition in next weeks, haven't really the time to organize the pics they don't get published (which tend to end up in archives anyway). I agree on the lack of visual education too.
i'm sick of black&white
Have you considered abstract photography?
>>2836958
i could literally not agree any more
memes and bad things have overtaken photography and need to be purged
>>2837062
>Look at super popular travel instagram accounts and they are all identical
That's because they don't actually go anywhere, they get all their pics from Shitterstock et al.
the fact of the matter is only MF/LF landscape shots are actually objectively off the bat going to be good more than 0.1% of the time
all other subjects
all other cameras
garbage
absolute fucking garbage dumps of millennial and post-millennial filth and memes
the fucking 9gag of photography
>>2837757
Go to bed, dad.
OP are you new to photography?
I know what you are talking about but I haven't been exposed to images like this in a long time because I don't seek them out. I avoid popular photo communities (some flickr groups can be good). Once you know where to look you will not have to look at bad photography again. Actually I am so overwhelmed by how many great photographers there are that I quit trying and just look at photos now. Do you even know the masters? Just go to a decent library or book store, maybe one that specializes in art, and you should find plenty of books made by great photographers.
>>2837758
>it's impossible to recognize bad things in people from your own generation or thereabouts
90% of everything is shit
somehow the percentage keeps going up in photography though
>>2837760
Except 99.9% of people think objectively shit bad things like cliche HDR are gods gift to photography
modern photography is the victim of supernormal stimuli
>>2836990
When I look at peoples' work I can't always figure out why it's so popular, and that's OK. I don't have to love everyone's work, nor do they have to love mine. I do my best to understand the execution and intent, and it can be frustrating when it's hard to find stuff I really enjoy so that I can feel inspired and learn from it. But there's always stuff out there for you, you just have to be proactive and go find it.
>>2837762
It's funny how this thread is all about the dumbing down of photography, yet you're here spouting absolute nonsense statistics as hyperbole in order to get a point across.
>>2837615
It was a joke, you dense mong
>>2837760
wow thanks for providing even one example of such a community
>>2837958
https://www.flickr.com/groups/onthestreet/
http://www.magnumphotos.com
>>2837972
>http://www.magnumphotos.com
nice.. magnum photos to go with my MAGNUM YOU KNOW WHAT
>>2837908
really awful reply. thanks for the moral lesson, grandpa. this thread isn't about finding your inner self, it's about the realization that really popular photography is objectively thoroughly crap if you take more than a 2 second look, when virtually no one seems to acknowledge this publicly.
>>2836966
I think he wants whatever he didn't mention. He wants the following:
>porn
>"vintage" or found photography
>stock photography
>product photography
>school photos
>cliché tourist shots
>photos of people's photography gear
>astrophotography
>selfies
>multiple exposures
>long exposures
>freezing fast action
>concert photography
>sports photography
>pictorialist photography
>aerial photography
>war photography
>political photography
>paparazzi photos
>cat photos
>pet photos
>dick picks
>snapshits
>x-rays
>pinhole
>wildlife and bird photos
>upskirts
>endoscopy
>fisheye
>minimalist
>etc
He's only sick of the ones he mentioned. He loves everything else.
>>2837979
>everything popular is bad
So this thread is about whining. Nice.
>Photojournalism doesn't have PP
Into le trash
I'm sick of wedding photography and amateurs who think they are wedding photographers.
I'm also sick of light painting photography.
Damn that shit is played out.
>>2837761
because of snapchat and instagram, people think photography is "easy"
>>2838031
It's a common attitude among teenagers. They're special, and better than everyone else, so the things that everyone else like must be stupid, and easy, and thoughtless.
These people don't like things based on what they enjoy, they like things based on the status that liking them gives. Being different and unique and showing everyone how special they are is the primary goal when it comes to buying a car, listening to music, working a job, appreciating art and movies, etc.
