Best watch for going /out/ - recommendations?
>>740239
I use a chep timex weekender. If would use one of those cheap casio bin ladens only for the chronometer function.
Timex do some great /fa/ outdoors style
Plus they're cheap & reliable.
>>740239
What do you expect from a watch? You just need something sturdy and that can be submerged into a couple meters of water. Get an analog one and you'll be able to use it as a compass
>>740258
I want it to be able to:
- Take a beating
- Read well in the dark
- Take a 30 m dive
- Take dust, heat and cold
- Not need battery changes or at least only need battery changes very rarely
- Track time somehow - other than by remembering time myself
>>740260
Besides the timex weekender that I regulary use, I wear a seiko sk007 submariner but only when I'm going to do mountain hikes and I'm going to be away from civilization for at least 3 days. I took off the metal strap and replaced it with a leather one. It does everything in your list and has never failed me. It's automatic so I don't need batteries and is one of the sturdiest watches I've ever own. It's amazing how many times I've hit it and not one scratch on the crystal.
The guys at /g/ use to post an infographic about watches (considering budget and functions) that might help you find one. But I recommend you both the timex weekender and the seiko sk007.
timex looks good. i have gshock its virtualy indestructable. it doesent have a scratch and i wear it even when i sleep.
>>740239
The sun
http://www.cotswoldoutdoor.com/nl/garmin-fenix-3-titanium-sapphire-gps-watch-e3312133?id_colour=
>>740421
> reads well in the dark
> takes a 30m dive
Gotta love the sun
can't wait for the expensive watch fetish posters to get here
>>740441
We WERE waiting for poorfags but not anymore. Thanks.
>>740256
I'm not the other anon, but if i could i'd buy this one. (though this wouldn't be good for diving i think)
>>740239
GW-M5610-1
I wouldn't use it for diving but my girlfriend got me a timex expedition scout that I like. Pretty basic. leather strap, time, date, glow-in-the-dark button.
>>740480
>TICK TOCK TICK TOCK TICK TOCK TICK TOCK
>>740239
Casio W-59-1VQES...Cheap and reliable.
>>740471
this! This gshock and this other one for those who like analog like me, i don't think there are better ones, specially considering the price
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00BS8U88W/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_1/191-2459246-8308652?pf_rd_m=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_r=JEVJGBANJN0PWEB44V0H&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_p=1977604522&pf_rd_i=B00ELALRN4
>>740500
couldn't agree more!
just depends on wether you like analog or digital.
with an analog you can use it as a compass when out.
I like digital better overall.
>>740555
There are some casio watches that have both analog and digital display.
>>740581
true. whatever fits your needs. I like the GW-M5610-1 as a top tier simple yet powerful companion.
I have the Casio forester. I love it.
>>740239
Garmin Fenix 3
>>740635
The more parts in a system, it's more likelly to fail, so no thanks. Casio or Timex is the way to go imo
>>740731
el calcular-solANO
>>740471
This. The watch I wear
>>740471
I have this
>>740500
My watches kept breaking and shattering when getting slammed into large steel D rings on our zodiac boats at Coronado naval training station. I bought this exact G-shock. The motherfucker never even got a scratch. Even the wristband held up. It went on to serve in Afghanistan and Iraq and survived the wristband being nearly melted through. Was still just fine.
>>740792
Is it expensive?
>>740757
If all you need it to do is tell time, sure, go with it, but the Fenix (and the Suunto version) work just fine without a higher failure rate and still have more functionality.
>>740839
I'll trust your word but the fact that it needs batteries just makes me nervous. When I'm up there I trust my automatic. As for other functions, I carry a map and a compass.
>>740846
Understandable. It's a specialized piece for specific tasks, if you don't need it then it's just extra wight/hassle. I get a lot of use out of the altimeter/barometer and the occasional GPS check. Great for tracking routes on bike or ski descents, as well.
>>740848
Serious? You can track gps routes in that tiny screen? You betta start telling us your secrets m8, I can barelly follow the tracks on my phone. Im clumsy as fuck but even so, how can you track a route on that tiny af screen?
>>740856
It's more useful for working out where you've been after the fact, or getting a precise location or a bearing on the next waypoint. For serious navigation I go back to the map or a larger device, it's just easier to check the wrist a lot of the time. Most of my powered devices run off USB so a battery pack covers most of my needs. Beats dragging around a bag of AAs.
>>740846
>>740856
Forgot to add, I'm a mountaineer currently based in southern Andes climbing 5k every weekend, so I'd really like to have your input in the altimeter and barometer functions. How they do really help you in your descents (and ascents as well)? Don't you build your own weather forecasts? You just go up there trusting accuweather or whatever? Pls tell me so I can toss away my automatic because truth is it's not light at all
>>740239
For its price and the damage it will receive G shocks are as good as it gets
>>740868
My forecasts depend a lot on what information I have available. I'm based in BC/Alberta so there are a lot of very nice products available ranging from aviation (GFA) to location specific (Alpine FX.) If there's a sat-phone available then I can even call in to get forecasts. If there's nothing else available then I do what everybody else does: barometer, sky, precip, temp, and wind speed/direction. I don't know what kind of forecasting is available in the Andes so i couldn't make a comparison.
There's some pretty nifty logic functions that will keep track of the barometric equivalent pressure even as you change elevation and gives you a neat little graph of the last few days, makes life a bit easier. If you know the route ahead of time you can load it through the Garmin Base Camp software, and there's an app to link up to your smartphone via bluetooth that has some handy tools. You may not need the $600 version, but there's a lot to be said for a good ABC watch. You can find some pretty thorough reviews here: dcrainmaker.com
Speaking of the Andes, I'm planning a trip down there around September to do some ski touring/mountaineering. Got any recommendations?
>>740635
>needs to be recharged every day
"No."
I use pic related, solar powered, altimeter, barometer, compass.
you'd be surprised how handy that barometer is when you're in a place with volatile weather.
>>740899
"I'm not the boss of you"
How well does that solar charging work three days into the storm? I have colleagues who have that model and end up planting it in front of their headlamps because A) it's not sunny enough or B) it gets tucked under a sleeve for most of the day. It's the mountains, forecasts are only going to be so accurate for a given piece of terrain, plan accordingly.
>>740882
You should screencap your post and ask for a job at Garmin because I'm going to check it out.
September is perfect if you want to get awesome peaks (5k, 6k), but not that much if you are into ski descends (i gathered that's what you really enjoy).
As for touring slash mountaneering by that time you can find tons of routes, mountains and valleys as long as it is below S33°, and only untill december. After that there's a monzon that will literally fuck your shit up. However, we are now experiecing a very weird start of winter so september might be last untill the start of november.
Let's start a thread about serious mountains and I'll try to drop some serious recommendations.
>>740437
I want one but the price is a little much still.
Yes it's expensive, yes you should get a cheap timex first, but fuck me it's sexy. Suunto is /out/ watch porn.
>>740926
I can see myself wearing the white one camping the shit out of the trail to get to my van. Operators got nothing on me
>>740555
>>with an analog you can use it as a compass when out.
how?
>>740970
Point the hour hand at the sun, halfway between the hour hand and the 12 o'clock position is south (northern hemisphere.) 1 o'clock for daylight savings time.
>>740906
Not the anon you responded to, and I understand your point, however I'm not sure you are correct in regards Casio solar charging.
http://www.casio-intl.com/asia-mea/en/wat/watch_detail/PRW-3510Y-1/
>Approx. battery operating time:
7 months on rechargeable battery (operation period with normal use without exposure to light after charge)
22 months on rechargeable battery (operation period when stored in total darkness with the power save function on after full charge)
>>740994
you can do that with a digital watch too as long as you know how time works and where the hour hand will be
hell as long as you have the time you don't actually need the watch to do the compass trick
>>740899
Fenix 3 lasts for weeks as an ABC watch.
>>741009
Well you just need your imagination and can do the exercise in your mind while commuting. The point is that an analog watch is something you just have to check with your eyes, so its easier.
>light weight
>durable
>water restant
>digital
>not a cluttered display like other G-shocks
>>740490
lol, I always liked the fact that it made an audible tick tock although I could definitely see it bothering some people
>>740260
Casio g shock have models with solar power which is great (I have a digital one) they are tough, waterproof and have a great back light. Had mine for 2 years now is showing very little wear and have had no issues at all
Gshock 5600 solar with the carbon strap. This thing seems like it will last forever
I bought a Casio Forester a month or so ago. I absolutely love it.
>>741000
Hmm, I think I may have mistaken that for an older Suunto.
>>740906
>I have colleagues who have that model and end up planting it in front of their headlamps
I truly do not believe you.
>>741344
At a glance I thought you called them g-cucks.
>>741793
Sounds more like it. My Suunto core battery shat out only after a couple of months. Learned why you don't change watch batteries yourself, the hard way.
OP here
>>741344
I already have this one, but in the xGlobe version. The buttons are waaay too small to my liking, but good suggestion.
>>741828
If they want a full charge all the time, they might have to. Since these watches last half a year to nine months without a single ray of sun, it really isn't necessary. Two hours on a sunny day will charge from low to full, that is another 7 months of darkness.
Milfag here, saving up for this. Just to get mgrs coords quicker when needed.
I wear a Seiko skx173, and I dive with it nearly every weekend. Great automatic watch.
I seems like the Gshock 5600 series with tough solar would also be a great, and nice look option.
>>741344
Came here to post this.
What else do you guys want from a watch?
It's tough as hell, waterproof, light, keeps time, stopwatch, alarm, date, backlight, still haven't had to change batteries.
>>742783
you can also get it in tough solar, like 30-40 bucks more and you'll never have to get a new battery. The non-solar version has a 2 year battery I believe
>>742783
OP here
As I said, I already have this watch and the buttons are too tiny/inaccessible to my liking. Have the tough solar (G shock x Globe) btw
>>741828
>I truly do not believe you.
Ok, have a nice day!
>>743038
>If they want a full charge all the time, they might have to. Since these watches last half a year to nine months without a single ray of sun, it really isn't necessary. Two hours on a sunny day will charge from low to full, that is another 7 months of darkness.
Ok, have a nice day!
>>742038
My OIC had this watch and I was actually pretty fucking jelly. I like my black gshock with black screen/orange numbers. His watch is the only tac watch I've liked more
>>741344
>not posting the superior blackscreen/orange number version
watch is perfect except for the completely retared buttons you have to push in with your nails
>>740899
I'll vouch for any of the pro-trek watches. I've had my current one for over three years, and the worst damage it's sustained is some superficial scratching from being bashed into the mast cap of a sunfish that had a fair bit of sand embedded into it, plus the ABC functions are just nice to have, even if just as backup.
a rolex sub, they're tougher than anything you'll ever do.
For cheap, a victorinox inox is probably good enough?
>hurr i'ma gear fag
>>743093
Negative displays tend to be harder to read at a glance.
>>745761
Having owned one the bigger thing is that they drain the battery much faster, I reckon.
>>745765
My understanding is the difference between positive and negative displays is due to a polarising film placed on the display of the watch. The film essentially turns a positive display into a negative display by selectively polarising the light coming from behind the LCD.
With this considered I'm not sure how a negative display would drain battery faster than positive, unless it was because of increased use of the light function.
http://www.stefanv.com/watches/why-negative-lcds-are-so-hard-to-read.html
>>745776
All I know is I have two casios and the negative display needed new batteries while the other still doesn't, years after the other ones were replaced.
Got a speedy pro I sometimes take /out/
>>745798
I would put it down to differences in model's or usage.
>>740239
PAW-1500T, not shill but fuck me it's done me well
worn 'erry day for 8 years now, it's been all over the world. Deserts to jungle, it's even been scuba diving a few times.
I've yet to find an /out/ timepiece that has this close to this level of functionality and ruggedness.
Solar powered, radio time synced, moon/tide data (big deal for me I live on a small island) usual million alarms/stopwatch/world time/2nd time zone malarkey, ABC functions- barometer displays as a graph on screen all the time, brilliant for tracking inbound weather
The only gripe I have was the strap. Ti links held by fuckin' stainless pins (the clasp fucked up in year 5). I don't know why it's taken me so long, but I've only just changed the strap to a NATO band, and fuck me it transforms the watch. If I'd have known this when I bought it, I'd have saved £100 and bought the one with a 'normal' band and not the Ti ( inb4 gearfag)
>>740471
>>741344
I wish mine was solar, but I have it almost 4 years now and still works perfectly. Never changed batteries, it has been from the deep african waters to the high European mountains in my wrist, I love it.
>>745205
beauty
>>740258
The rangeman in OPs photo is an ABC watch.
>>740258
Take a real compass or GPS. If you're planning on relying on solar or astral navigation you're gonna be in deep shit unless you've got a sextant and you're on a boat.
>>740731
How far away should the hand be? Arms length?
>different length arms from person to person
>>746508
OP here. Other anon's pic related does not work. Heard about it ages ago, try it often. Never once did it work
>>740253
I have a timex too (a cheap expedition one).
Holy fuck it ticks lound. I can't stand it.
Anyone have a recommendation for one of them strap watches? I hate watches with bulky faces, restricts wrist movement.
Was looking at vivofit 2, has always on display and 1year battery changes. No stopwatch or seconds shown on clock.
Do you guys like smart watches? Casio and huawei have made some pretty decent outdoorsy types.
>>746571
Casio?
>>740994
Similarly, point the 12 at the clock and find the halfway between that and the hour hand for North
With digital, just imagine you as the stick in a sundial and visualize where the current hour is
>>746571
Post them
>>746595
>point the 12 at the clock
k
>>746571
>http://www.wareable.com/android-wear/casio-wsd-f10-android-wear-price-specs-release-date-2016
>Casio WSD-F10
>$500
>Does not have a gps chip
I think I'll pass
>>746527
Works for me.
>>746693
I've never gone into the why of it. Could it have to do with where in the world one is? There is of course a number of minutes which it takes for the sun to move the thickness of a finger. But that is not 15 for one of mine
>>740260
Get a solar powered g shock. They last about 10 years on one battery.
Also some recive a signal every 24 hours or so, adjusting the time.
>>740471
master race
>>746820
It might be affected by how proportional your arms/hands are. My arm span = my height, which is proportional. Hands are, generally, about 3/4 the height of your head. Give it another shot after you get the official sunset time and see how far off you are.
>>746967
Many regular all digital g shocks last 10 years on a bettery. Tough solar should run forever, or?
>>747647
yes, virtually.
>>748739
I just switched batteries in my phone. Lithium batteries die you know. It held about five hours without a charge. It then fully charged in half an hour. Why wont that happen to the battery in a g shock?
>>748756
> solar
> much less power needed
> better battery (in relation)
