I personally love my FN FAL
It is just so soft shooting and accurate, it is my favorite hunting rifle that I own.
What is your favorite gun for /out/door activities?
Do you prefer handguns to long guns?
>>679129
OP is a picture of the US Militaries trials with an early version of the FAL.
I don't go out much, but the compact 9mm. Rifles/ shotguns are a big burden.
>>679129
SKS.
>no box mag to get lost or snag on branches
>I don't feel sad when I drop it.
>Cheap to buy.
>Fun to shoot.
>enough range for my particular biome f I ever have to kill something with it. (temperate rainforest)
I actually hunt with a remington 700 but like to carry an SKS for plinking on hikes. It just werks.
>>679148
I used to hunt pig with an SKS, the bayonet was a nice comfort incase the pig charged.
>>679146
I understand, but I wanted /out/s opinion, because if I bring up the FN FAL in /k/, all the thread is gonna be is about Battle rifles, and I wanted to talk about hunting and stuff.
>>679144
Compact 9mm- which brand, what model?
Do you open carry it or conceal it?
I FAL.
But to be honestly, the Gatlin' Gun is just more fun.
>>679129
None, because I'm not an insecure faggot with a tiny cock who needs a gun to make himself feel manly
>>679242
> actually overcompensates by not compesating at all
Anon, you need councilling! You are some kinda fucked up
>>679242
maybe some people just like shooting because it's fun
and then there's you who talks about other men dicks which leads me to the following question:
who is the insecure faggot here?
>>679242
>(you)
My AR
>>679129
I only have rifles and an ar pistol
I usually carry my mom's glock 26 it's enough for everything I could have to deal with in Virginia
We have black bears but black bears are pussys and I feel comfortable enough with it should I need it for bears
That feeling when you're european and really don't understand why would anyone need a gun /out/
>>679503
For fun. It's a freedom thing, you wouldn't understand.
>>679504
Well I can see the fun of going to a shooting range and stuff, I think I would like to do this, but why would I need a really expensive automatic riffle with a big ass lens and other tactical shit to go /out/ ? There's nothing out there trying to kill me, it's ok, I feel safe basically everywhere I go. But maybe I can't understand because I'm not American
>>679503
Yup, for fun like other people mentioned. If you have close neighbors and live in a city like most people, you can't really just go outside and shoot at stuff. When you're in the middle of the woods, all bets are off. Annoying loud bird off in the distance, shoot at it! Squirrel lookin at you wrong? Pop! Even if it isn't animals, shoot at a stump for fun.
Guns are pretty much like fireworks or a fast car for me. There's no explaining it, they're just fun to play with. It's not about trying to compensate all the time.
>>679507
>Annoying loud bird off in the distance, shoot at it! Squirrel lookin at you wrong? Pop!
That feeling when you're european and honnestly don't know if this guy is trolling or not
>>679506
no you can't understand because you're not a cowardly basement dweller afraid of his own shadow or a hillbilly.
Don't lump all Americans in with the tiny minority of weirdos who spend their hours strategizing on the internet about what is the best caliber bullet for all those charging bears we face every time we go out.
>>679510
I don't think it's so simple, I mean, I obviously think this is weird but I'd honnestly would like to understand a bit more.
Like, the idea of going to a shooting range and stuff, this seems pretty ok and fun to me desu
>>679508
He's not trolling, and what he's describing makes him a danger to the other people who might be potentially in the woods. (protip: you're more likely to run into another hiker than a bear in Florida)
But at least he's in Florida where almost everyone is an idiot, so it's not so bad if someone dies.
>>679514
If he's not trolling, the most dangerous think you can find /out/ in the USA is basically another human
>>679516
thing*
>>679512
It IS fun to go to a shooting range. I've been to a shooting range many times myself. The outdoor ones are a lot more fun than indoor because the distances are greater. Rifles are more fun to shoot than handguns because the accuracy is so much better.
Shooting WW2 era infantry rifles is my personal favorite.
But that doesn't mean I carry a concealed weapon to the grocery store, or lug a handgun with me when I go hiking in the middle of nowhere.
When I see a bear or a wolf or a coyote, I just chill and watch it, instead of panic and reach for my gun. Most people who talk about wild animals on here haven't even encountered one, and are just talking through their ass about their phobias and fears.
>>679518
>Most people who talk about wild animals on here haven't even encountered one, and are just talking through their ass about their phobias and fears.
I'm pretty sure you got the point
>>679516
That's true anywhere in the world, and most people get by each day without trembling and breaking out in a cold sweat because they don't have a gun on them.
If you live in East St. Louis or Detroit or Uganda, by all means, carry a gun. But like 99% of the gun owners on /k/ are pasty fat neckbeards who live in suburbs or the country and the most dangerous thing they face is their cholesterol levels.
>>679242
Spotted the europoor
>>679516
This is true
>>679514
That experience basically comes from spending time at my neighbor's cabin in Northern Wisconsin. We were never quite that reckless. But there was nobody around for miles and miles. We would shoot guns all day in this clearing by the cabin. And when we were in the woods, if you wanted to shoot at some random stuff, it wasn't a big deal. Most of the time we would just play around with .22's in the woods anyways. But we would shoot larger stuff by the cabin all the time. There was nobody around for miles and miles.
I wouldn't go do something like that in a popular hunting area or forest preserve. I'm talking about when you are really out there. No hiking trails or anything.
>>679527
I've been up past ladySmith wi. Can confirm, no one for miles.
>>679221
NICE.
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>>679530
This entire chain is a little... weird. I like my FN FAL with me because every time I go innawoods I see a bear on or near my trail. Even though I have never needed to use my rifle, with my luck it would be the one time I do not bring it that I would actually get charged.
That and sometimes I am outdoors for things like HUNTING.
>>679369
Nice, 5.56? And why no front sight post.
>>679129
I take a Ruger GP100.
It's pretty good.
>>679129
12 gauge pump Norinco with a 14 inch barrel and ghost rings, loaded with four 3 inch slugs shells, chamber empty and unlocked so I can quickly pump one in as I bring it into action.
It tucks nicely and put of the way on my back and super reliable. Plus it was dirt cheap so I don't have to baby it like when I bring a Benelli m4 innawoods.
>>679503
Canadian here and it's a popular thing here as well, for one thing shooting is a super popular sport here and there are some really dangerous wildlife in certain areas.
>>679597
I have seen a moose exactly once in my life and holy shit those things are fucking terrifying.
>>679608
Yeah they are really aggressive animals, and their numbers are increasing because there aren't as many hunters around to manage the numbers these days. In certain east coast provinces they are becoming a major cause of vehicular deaths. I'm actually more afraid of them than bears, to be honest.
>>679595
Nice, I respect the shotgun. It is an under-appreciated /out/ weapon.
>>679521
I'm a St. Louis /k/ommando, and I routinely walk into abandoned buildings alone as part of my job. I do not carry, even though I could OC a rifle if I wanted, because I don't find it to be necessary.
I totally carry while /out/ though, because the woods around here are lousy with aggressive wild pigs you can't see until you're right on top of them. Also, funs.
>>679140
Note the heavy barrel, folding bipod and large magazine! Neat.
>>679503
I think the same thing sometimes, but then I remember, in the states, theres a lot more shit that will kill you for food or just for fun.
Crocodiles (alligators? Idk) in swimming pools, mountain lions in backyards, and that shit is just in the suburbs.
>>679595
I have the same with a 12.5" barrel finishes flush with the magazine tube cap. So handy! And it functions just as well as my dad's old 870 wingmaster (flawlessly)
> uzi4u
Never understood all the anti gun hate on this board, if you don't like guns that's fine but idk why you need to constantly bash them. I personally bring my AKM with me in the wilderness
>>679724
> Does not suck.
But, I'm a whore for Brownings.
>>679610
No way. Give me a weekend pass, and pay for a box or two of .308 and I will put a dent in the population. I've heard Moose tastes good slow grilled.
>>679669
Wild hogs are no joke man. One ran right into the side of my first truck when I was driving down a dirt road. Thing thought it's reflection was another pig trying to act tough.
$800 panel repair.
>>679724
It's good for you to bring wood to it's old friend, tree's. They need to talk sometimes.
Also- perfect Hog gun. Great capacity, reliable, open sights. Fat bullet.
>>679730
I'm pretty sure my grandpa would like you a lot.
>>679503
As an Iowan, there's not really anything dangerous enough out there for me to rationalize taking a gun with me. All of my guns are either for fun, home defense, or shf stuff.
>>679503
Because there are still truly wild areas still left here in Canada unlike Europe.
>>679129
>Not owning a scar17s
>2016
>>679148
>temperate rainforest
deez. nuts. nigga.
>>679146
What happened here?
>>679503
I live in Northern ID, it's next to WA and OR. Ill tell you why I need a gun.
MOTHERFUCKING MOOSE FUCK THOSE MOTHERFUCKING SHIT EATING COCKSUCKERS DUDE THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS ARE HUGE AND POWERFUL AND DONT GIVE A FLYING FUCK ABOUT WHAT ANYTHING THINKS AND WILL REKT YOUR SHIT IF YOU FUCK UP EVEN SLIGHTLY
>>679129
The only time I can see any conceivable need for a gun is when you're /out/ in grizzly country. And even then, just don't be an idiot and you'll be fine.
>>679966
I'm glad I do my hunting indoors then, no reason to do it while /out/
>>679966
>Muh grizzly is the only animal you need a firearm against maymay
Seriously dude, read the thread and you'll see that people are more terrified of moose than grizzlies
>>679966
I... am taken aback by the colossal stupidity of your post. Have you never heard of hunting? Because that's something that people do... outside.. and that sometimes requires a gun. It pretty often requires a gun, actually. Maybe think it through a little more before your next post, buddy.
When I'm covering a lot of ground hunting I really like to carry my Marlin 1895 chambered in .45-70. I have a peep sight on it so there's no scope to get caught in heavy brush and it's well balanced to carry with one hand. I shoot fairly hot hand loads using a 325gr Hornady FTX bullet and I've killed a few deer and lots of feral pigs with the gun. It's a great brush/woods gun for shots up to 100 yards.
>>679975
Justifiably, moose are dicks
What are the laws regarding carrying guns while hiking like in your cunt?
Here in Sweden, our laws regarding hiking, camping and freedom to roam are really Based. But once you got a rifle slinged on your back, all of those laws are nullified.
You can only really carry on your own land and land you've got permission too.
>>679129
Always have a .380 Sig p238 on me. I don't have dangerous animals around my area in northern New England. Black bears, but I'm not worried about them.
Once in a while, I'll bring an AR out for the hell of it. Just a M&P-15. If I'm in an area with grouse, I'll bring along a Marlin 60 .22lr
>>680000
If it's public grounds, you follow the states rules for open carry. If it's private land, you need the permission of the owner.
So it's fairly straight forward.
>>679242
hippie faggot detected, get fucked
>>679503
>caliphate of europe
why indeed?
>>680035
enjoy!
>>679503
only you can prevent bear-rape anon
>>680063
/out/ somehow simultaneously pisses me off and makes me love it at the same time
all these antigun hippie eurofags think whenever you carry a gun into the woods you're gonna shoot every fucking animal in a 50 mile radius
meanwhile if you're attacked by a bear EVER you were always asking for it and totally didn't happen to accidentally walk in on a mom and her cubs or anything like >>680048
, not to mention you should only ever use bear spray because if it can save 1 bear life its totally worth it
seriously fuck off you fags
>>680072
>all these antigun hippie eurofags think whenever you carry a gun into the woods you're gonna shoot every fucking animal in a 50 mile radius
nope, i don't think that at all. i think that whenever you carry a gun into the woods you'll have literally not a single legitimate fucking use for it whatsoever.
>>680073
So according to you, no one has ever been attacked by a bear defending its cubs/mountain lion hungry af/ballsy wolves or coyotes/other rabid animals
fuck off retard
Could we please have a gun thread that is not completely derailed for once?
>>680073
One time my dad had to hide from a poacher who had a gun and my dad didn't. Since then, my father had always taken one whenever he goes outdoors. Fuck You.
>>680000
Nice get.
Here in Canada you are free to sling a firearm on your back provided you are on "crown" land, which is basically unused land owned by the federal government.
Certain types of weapons aren't allowed, like ARs and pistols, but we are free to carry pretty much any other semi automatic, pump or bolt action firearms. Sometimes you'll run into conservationist officers who'll hassle you if they are in a bad mood and accuse you of poaching, but if the area is known to have dangerous animals like bears and moose or if you are obviously just Plinking then they'll leave you alone.
>>680073
What is hunting and wild life defense? Bears are at least predictable but when i come across a giant stupid plant eater driven by hormones like a bull moose, I'd feel better with a shotgun in my hands.
>>680105
literally what is wrong with an AR or an AK?
>>680109
Nothing, they are perfectly fine weapons that are good for most innawoods adventures, but the trouble is that /k/ Will literally poo-poo everything that's not those two rifles. There's more than one way to skin a cat.
>>680113
You're forgetting their love for Mosins and SKS.
>>680115
Yeah, but whenever someone suggests a standard, bolt action hunting rifle like a Remington 700 or a Winchester model 70 then everyone on /k/ starts yelling "GTFO FUDD!!!"
>>680116
Well I wouldn't recommend any rifle with a scope for innawoodsing so why go with an expensive rifle that's meant to have a scope that isn't particularly durable when you can have a similar rifle that is meant for the bush?
>>680117
I was just giving an example of the shit that happens on /k/.
>>680122
I've got a pair of older R700's with bull barrels that are excellent guns. Lots of newer guns are pieces of shit these days.
>>680127
the older ones are good if you can find them, but new Remington products are absolute ass
>>680122
I used to be a /k/ regular, I remember bringing up That I just take a short shotgun with me innawoods and everyone laughed at me and called me a fudd.
Okay, so I don't really have a a list of "no-go" out guns. I think anything less powerful than a 9mm should't be taken, generally (a .22 is great for plinking, but for defense it's crap).
Honestly if someone thinks a bolt action (any really) will serve them for /out/ go ahead and take it. When you look at the original Mauser and Springfield 1903, many were used for decades after their military career as sporting rifles- for good reason. Reliability, power, easy of maintenance and affordability. Yeah, a R700 or Savage aren't $40 like those rifles were, but it is still easy to pick up a used R700 for less than $300 with some basic glass on it.
And when it comes to semi-auto rifles like the AK and AR platforms, those also have a place in /out/. Mostly leaning towards self defense and less towards hunting, but an AK can still be used just as easily, if not more so, than a Savage for pig hunting.
When it comes to hanguns, like I said earlier, I tend to not condone anything less powerful than a 9mm. Why? Because if 9mm is the bare minimum to stop a man, why would you take anything less when you might encounter something much greater than a man? This being said, if someone only has a .380 and their /out/ is the national park, heavily populated by tourists- yes, it will work. You won't be encountering many animals because of how much traffic that area has, and if you encounter someone trying to harm or rob you, that little .380 will do nicely.
.22's have their own place. Not really used for hunting medium or large game, mostly reserved for small game, Thrill seekers looking for a challenge, and plinking, it is IMHO pound for pound the most fun gun you can bring /out/. But it is essentially useless in a self defense situation.
>>680135
what shotgun?
you have to realize there is an insane amount of ripping on each other on /k/. ARfags are mallninjas/gearqueers, if you like wood and steel(i'm in this boat) you get called a fudd, slavaboos, chicoms, etc
None of it is really serious, sorry someone hurt your widdle feelies on an anonymous tibetan clay sculture forum
>>680136
IIRC that was a problem with the R770s safeties, which went on for years until someone sued Remington over it
Certain Taurus guns will go off, for like no reason at all
>>679129
I personally don't like guns. I shoot arrow.
Guns are too loud for me. Can't shoot without hearing protection. But then you can't hear your surroundings. Shoot once and every animal within 2 miles is gone. Call me a hippy faggot. I like to merge with my surroundings. Guns don't do it.
>>680154
See, I respect that. Bow's take serious skill to become good with.
>>680151
Seriously, this is fucking 4chan after all.
>>680158
Yeah. Most /out/ists act like they're on reddit or something.
>>680161
I guess it is kind of a board for tree hugging hippies.
>>680151
I'm all good with banter, but it gets really old fast, especially since we all know that Like half of /k/ doesn't even own guns.
>>680189
yeah but I doubt half of /out/ even goes outside
also the shitposting on /k/ has mostly been confined to /arg/ and /brg/ for a while now
>>680189
>half of /k/ doesn't even own guns.
and half of /out/ doesn't go out
>>680202
>>679723
How long is that barrel
>>680033
This gets such a bad rap. Poor May. He puts his thumb over the bolt and then correctly checks for bore obstructions. The way they cut the film makes him look 'unsafe' to the average viewer.
>>680073
Pest control. Your whole argument falls apart.
>>680109
Nothing wrong with them per se, but they are crap recommendations for me at least, because they both require an e category license, and are stupidly expensive for no reason.
>>680302
>e category
Sorry.
>>680333
me too bud, me too.
>>679503
In rural areas all over America, wild boar have bread with bred with escaped livestock pigs. meaning you get a wild boar the size of industrial fattened pigs. Shit is crazy
Towards the western part of the us, people bred coyotes with red wolves to try and help their struggling population. And bam, now we have coyotes the size of red wolves
And moose can fuck your shit up if you're in the northern parts
And the deep south has alligators coming out the ass
And it's also just fun to plink
>>680534
>Live in the Western part of the US
>Have issue with Hogs and Yotes.
>Friends prized goat was eating by a coyote and she is only 4 miles outta town
Live in CA. Can't do shit.
>>680544
Shit, we even get mountain lion tracks on the edge of town here in Iowa. The DNR says they're just passing through but those fuckers are everywhere.
>>679503
>need
>>680551
Yeah, I am in a valley so not so much mountain lions. Those things are fucking scary.
>>680555
Seriously, I've met a few people who've heard their screams while innawoods. The stuff of fucking nightmares.
>>680566
I would rather fight a Moose with nothing but a pair of trousers and a pocket knife than go head to head with a Mountain Lion when I have a shotgun.
Fuck that noise.
>>680570
And to think people have killed tigers with fucking knives and shit.
>>680574
Nah man. I am good lol
>>680576
I don't think there's really any predator in its natural form that can consistently beat the tiger other than maybe a polar bear.
>>680588
I just want nothing to do with them.
Which is why I go /out/ with a full size rifle lol
>>680591
What do you carry?
>>680551
>passing through
Aren't they territorial?
>>680596
Molly- my FN FAL.
Well, DSA receiver on a Brazilian kit. Featureless grip because CA, and a 20 round mag with 20 Soft points.
She eats like a pig, and weights 9 pounds but she is mine and I lover her. Got my first buck with her.
>>680073
Because who hunts right?
I also consider pissing off people like you to be a perfectly legitimate reason.
>>680604
Yes, but you cannot buy them, transfer them, trade them, give them, or anything else.
You can either find them on public land, or have had them before January 1st 2001.
>>680605
I say find on public land because if you tell anyone you found them on private property, you will immediately be considered a thief.
>>680605
I'm assuming you procured yours through the latter method.
>>680608
My dad had a small amount of them, and he gave them to me as a child. I only have 4 mags, but they still work.
>>680611
That's awesome. Good to hear that there are still some people in CA who have the means to properly defend themselves!
>>680616
Yeah, but I am leaving ASAP.
Wanna go live someplace less.... stupid.
So either TX or Oregon lol
>>680618
I'm worried about what might happen in Oregon... Too many liberals in the cities and I'm not sure what sort of long term effect Lavoy Finicum's death will have on the state.
>>680624
I'm going to have a stint in the Navy, so hopefully when I pop out I will have a nice nest egg to settle down.
And I can just research what state is gtg
>>680626
I was born in Texas so i'm a little biased when it comes to recommending it as a home lol. I live in Iowa currently and we're a pretty gun friendly state though the people here might be a bit different then you're used to.
>>680635
I have family in TX, OK, and my gf is from OR.
I cannot choose right lol
>>680637
Haha just move to Louisiana or Missouri or something. That'll be good middle ground.
>>680638
Just jump the board and live in Camden TN.
>>679129
I typically don't hunt except bow season, so if I carry anything it's my m&p 15/22 to plink with
>>679129
Savage 116 in .308 with a variety of loads, even gallery for the rabbits and plinken :3 Gotta love the versatility.
>>680097
This is true, but just to nitpick:
>any other semi automatic
is only partially true. There are quite a number of semis we're just straight up not allowed to have, period. FN FAL's and AK's are two conspicuous ones since they seem to be very popular.
>>680726
Yeah, but I didn't want to make it too /k/ Canada thread which always devolves into everyone just bitching and talking about politics.
The G-11 is also banned, hilariously enough.
>>680105
>AR or AK
Nah man, as of late it's all about SKS and nuggets over there
>>680291
> legal length
Too long?
I take my little P64
I live in IL, so there are no bears, maybe a rabid 'yote, but probably not
no need for anything big, so I take the smallest gun I own
Revolver
Long arms are too much of a hazard when navigating the shitty terrain where I live and camp out. Both hands free is what you want.
Pretty much forget I have it in the holster, but it's there if needed.
>>680949
Slings are factored in.
The long arm is still a burden, as you can't retain it so it doesn't catch on stuff and dangle around if you want to use it in a hurry. Used to carry long arms of various makes until I realized that I'm not hunting, I'm not going to need to shoot something over 50 yards, and falling/slipping is a far, far larger hazard.
Yes, I carry a .357 Mag Model 66 with six in the gun and a dozen on my belt.
>>679129
>gun to have while /out/
stupid baby
>>680739
Fair enough, it's kind of annoying to have everything devolve into politics which is why I kind of pussyfooted around it.
Gotta say though, a G11 would be a pretty cool innawoods plinker.
>>681012
> have g11 innawoods
> Carry around a Kraut Space Magic Brick
> Bursts a Deer into ground venison.
Lol, fun toy, but the g11 died for a reason.
>>680170
the spawn of /k/ and /an/ is not made up of tree hugging hippies.
>>679129
Savage 24D .22 over 20
S&W Model 19 .357 Magnum
Much versatility
So BANG
>>679966
Well, thanks for offering up your opinion based on your experience, then.
I'd also like to thank you for not doing so in an insulting manner.
You would be welcome in my camp, as long as you respect my right to choose as well.
>>681144
Yeah, great guns.
I also like that they're easy to break down for transport, and are dead-simple to operate.
I'd recommend them to anyone if you can find one. No longer in production, as I understand it.
Also heard good things about the Baikal 94s.
The main problem (with my 24) seems to be that the regulation of the 2 barrels is off.
The .22 is dead on at 25 yards, but the 20 gauge below is about a foot low-left. Instead of shimming or bending the barrels to compensate, the 'smith is installing a slightly offset second sight post to bring the shotgun in line.
Just...Brilliant!
Since the 24 is single shots, I bring the .357 revolver, which can also be very versatile, for hog and snake defense. (NC Sandhills)
What're you carrying, pardner?
>>680534
Eurocucks don't have any more predators to worry about, and its in their DNA to not want to hunt on the King's land. They seriously can't fathom why anyone would bring a root'n tooty point'n shooty innawoods.
>>681195
FN FAL. It's been covered, but a CA legal, featureless grip, and a 20 round pre-ban mag with 20 soft points.
>>681219
That's some firepower.
Good for medium and longer ranges, I'll bet.
Optic or Irons?
>>681233
Irons. Tempted to put on a Trijicon MRO onto it.
> reason enough
When I do bring a long gun this is usually it for the sake of convenience and lack of a 308 autoloader.
>>681323
lol have fun with your retarded gas system shitting all over your barrel
>>681323
Hey, those always interested me, but I have never had the opportunity to buy or shoot one.
How are they? Are they as reliable as an SKS or AK?
>>681326
It does warm up noticeably quicker than an AK even with the polymer, which is actually saying something. Really wish they had some provision for heat shields but beyond that, what's wrong with dumping fouling on top of the barrel? Push an oil cloth down into the handguard, pull it back over and wipe it off. Easier than cleaning my AK's gas tube and the fouling doesn't seem to bake onto the piston as bad as an AK does. If you try c-clamping at the forward handguard port you'll probably get burned though.
>>681331
Pleasant with the brake, with the slant brake I found it mildly unpleasant not to my shoulder but my cheek, could have been rectified with a wrap, for cold weather you would probably want one anyway. LOP is fairly short with the folder. Safety feels backwards (because it is on the vz2008 due to a cz-usa/czechpoint copyright on their semi-auto fcg). Feels like less reciprocating mass than an AK, you don't feel the action as much, the milled receiver might aid that. Last round bolt hold open. The only real complaint I have is that the shitters who built mine used locktite or rockset on the buttstock screw, the kit looked brand new otherwise which will vary.
I haven't experienced a non-magazine related failure other than the occasional dud but it's not like I've torture tested it either. There's a few torture test videos on youtube and the only thing I recall stopping one was a chamber obstruction after the guy buried it with the action locked open. Go figure. I'd be curious to see proper dust and freeze tests, too bad I don't speak Czech.
tldr
Inexpensive, light, handy, conscript proof, and chambered in a common and effective cartridge but not without its idiosyncrasies.
>>681366
> idiosyncrasies.
the ribbed for her pleasure magazine always sticks out. Mostly because it is just too large to fit two in a regular double AK pouch (from my understanding)
Would you recommend it over anything else? Or recommend anything else over it?
>>681012
But hey, good news, the Chinese type 81 has been approved for sale in Canada, they'll add that .6 of an inch to the barrel to make it non restricted and we'll finally have our own 7.62 commie innawoods gun. Only better than the AK.
>>681637
>at least we have the vz58, its better than an ak
>at least we can get t81s they are better than aks
Its sad how desperate you are to fill that ever open void
>>681642
Sh...shaddap...
I mean the t81 is actually a prolific service weapon in its own right and by all accounts is an upgrade from the AK in terms of ergonomics, accuracy and controllability.
I get what you are saying though, it's just not the same...
>>681709
Not gonna happen, we just try to hang on as best as we could.
Gun laws are hard to unfuck, even in the US. Y'all still can't take advantage of cheap Chinese guns 30 years after that thing happened with the arms smuggling.
>>681728
Yeah, I understand. I live in California lol, shits whack.
But It is still possible, just through education.
>>679369
dude where is that? Arizona?
>>681791
I dunno, but I want to be there lol
>>681637
Oh nice. That might be a viable option for my first gun (depending on the price, of course). Chances are it'll be a bolt action or a shotgun, though
>>682518
And I know the VZ58 exists, but I quite frankly just find it butt ugly.
>>682537
Unless you already have a decent amount of experience with shooting and maintaining firearms, in which case get whatever.
>>682537
I probably will at some point for plinking duties, but for now I'm looking for something heftier as a general camp gun since .22 doesn't do much against a charging bull moose.
>>682544
If you don't mind the recoil, get a .45-70, they pack a heftier punch than Magnum shotgun slugs, would work very well for wildlife protection. I currently have a short Norinco shotgun foe that duty but I'm thinking of upgrading to a .375 H&H.
>>679503
In northern Canada there is a lot of bad shit you can find in the woods. People growing pot on public land, native gangs that steal all your supplies at gunpoint and leave you to die, sasquatch, bears, yotes, cougars, etc. Normally nothing bad happens, but you could easily die being unarmed. In Europe it's hard to get away from civilization, but in Canada there are villages without cell or radio service that have no idea about what's going on in the rest of the country.
Bear spray doesn't work if you get stuck between a sow and her cubs, or if you're being shot at from 50 yards. I'd rather carry a pistol because of the weight, but the law says that's too dangerous and I'm only allowed to carry a high powered rifle.
>>682590
Tfw you can't take your 9mm innawoods but the .50 cal is fine.
>>679503
>need a gun
“Need” doesn’t come into it, I have guns (and take them /out/ even if not hunting, though usually just a handgun) because it is my (and your) human right to keep & bear arms and simply because I want to.
>>682681
that looks nice.
I've been wanting to get a .357 levergun since I already have a .357 revolver.
>>679369
waiting for some beaners?
>>681243
Yeah, I think its best to keep it simple for inawoods guns, tend to point-shoot at closer ranges.
>>681323
VZ59 master race reporting in!
>>682547
I've been looking into it a little bit, and apparently .308 is better in most repsects than .45-70. If this is just internet stupidity a'd not actual fact then please let me know, I'm uneducated in this regard.
>>682813
Oh 308s are ballistically better than .45-70s, and they would be the thing to get if you are looking for a multi purpose rifle, ideally a 16inch AR-10 would be perfect imo but we can't take them scurry guns innawoods in Canada.
45-70s are generally more compact and pointable than 308 bolt guns And are perfect if all you are asking from it is to defend you from wild life.
At the end of the day though, decent training is what's really important. Shot placement will win against calibre every time.
>>682827
+1 for training.
I generally won't respond to Canadian issues, because I am not familiar with them.
>>680094
reminds me of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwjwQO5SQCU
But in all seriousness, that sounds like a realistic, really scary situation. Poachers don't really have any regard for life as it is, if they see you they'd probably rather murder you than deal with the risk of having authorities called on them.
I don't even own any guns but I still think anti-gun fags are retarded.
>>679129
Thompson Center Icon
That or my Glock 17
>>680624
Ehh I wouldn't worry about it, there's a lot of liberals in a couple bigger cities but a lot of people here live in the country and love guns.
>>682827
That's incredibly well-put. Thanks anon, you're a good guy.
>>683017
No problem anon, stay safe out there.
>>679570
>why no front sight post
because scope?
Anyone have an opinion on the Henry AR-7?
>>679503
>when you're european
People need to stop discussing things based on an idea that all europeans have the same laws, traditions and culture etc.
I'm european, I own a gun and so do many of my friends and family because hunting is normal in Norway.
Lots of posters come in gun threads and say things like "I'm european and I don't understand why you NEED guns". Well fuck off because there are many europeans that use guns innawoods. Instead if writing you're "european", write what country you're from so we know which noguns country you represent.
I can't stand to be grouped in with people like you.
>>683931
>Anyone have an opinion on the Henry AR-7?
It’s a neat-o gadget but unless you're expecting to bail out of a disabled B-52 bomber over Soviet Siberia, you’d be better off with a conventional .22 rifle.
>>683942
Preach, brother. And I know That European countries like Czech republic have pretty great gun cultures too.
I hunt small game, this is my gun and my squirrel killing, rabbit tracking, racoon smashing, oppossum bashing hunting dog.
>>683942
this tbqh
just because brits only do wood walks in cramped forests between cities doesn't mean there isn't wilderness in scandinavia where there are predators and even enough empty space to be able to shoot a gun without disturbing someone
It's not a european thing to hate/fear guns, it's mainly a british and german thing
>>682692
Pretty sure that is a 45-70 lever gat
You should man up and get a 45-70 levergat and a 45-70 revolver
>>679516
But it's more dangerous not to find them. If they hear you through the bushes, but don't know you're human..
>>679521
>Suburbs or the country.
Being no where else to live, do you live in the sky fat neckbeard anon?
>>680113
The right way to skin a cat is with an ar15 and only an ar15
>>683960
> mfw I love flecktarn and have none
I got an old 410 I like to take with me, and I made up some wax slugs for it, they work nice and seem to carry a lot of punch for their size.
>>681892
>>681892
Utah, backside of Zions canyon about three miles south east from the borders of the park. My home range. Also no front post because its an optics only carbine.
Britfag here so no machine guns or Glocks.
My go to is a Beretta 686 evo.
Also got an old Merkel SBS from my Grandad and an underlever .22 BSA for the small stuff.
>>684540
Can you actually shoot anything or just yell bang in its general direction?
>>680116
>Fudd Detected
>>684421
But sometimes when I come across people innawoods I want to Give the "howdydoo" impression, instead of the "I'm taking this wild life sanctuary" impression.
Pic related is my baby though. Getting an elcan for it.
>>679503
>Bears
>Cougars
>Wolves
>Bobcats
>and bootleggers
These are the reasons I carry a gun while /out/
>>680073
I am assuming this person comes from a place with no particularily dangerous wildlife. Canadafag here. Depending on where you go, you'll see bears, moose and on occasion a pissed off native guy who wants your Shit. Also, damn hogs man.
>>684532
Isn't it kind of strange to have a cantilever mount that far back?
>>685618
IMO, it's mounted backwards because it doesn't have to clear BUIS.
10/10 would still shoot shit with.
>>679242
You'd get better responses if you take this tired and stale bait to /k/. They're morally obligated to take any meme bait, no matter how poorly presented.
>>679503
We don't do it because we need to, we do it because we can.
>>680768
>late
It has never not been about nuggets.
>>679506
Going to a shooting range is like camping in an RV at a KOA. It's ok for some people, but others would rather find a random place and use that, instead.
Would you rather make your own experience, or would you prefer to abide by the rules posted at the entrance? It's a free country, do whatever suits your comfort level.
>>679507
>There's no explaining it, they're just fun to play with. It's not about trying to compensate all the time.
The personal challenge of sitting down somewhere with a 10/22 and a brick of ammo, and one-shotting weed stalks at 75 yards. Shooting dandelions is a great way to while away a few hours.
>>686006
> I make my own range
>>686010
> flower assassin
That is so anti-hippie, I think I like you.
>>679510
Dude, I'm telling you, you'll get a LOT more responses if you take this bait to /k/.
You should ham up the memeing just a little bit more, though. Right now you're coming across like an Australian trying to imitate an American.
>>679521
>But like 99% of the gun owners on /k/ are pasty fat neckbeards who live in suburbs or the country
Citation, pls.
>>680073
Varmint shooting and plinking.
You seem to be under the impression that guns can only be used for grim and deadly things. The vast majority of shots fired in the US every day are for recreational purposes. You may not like it, but that's a legit use of firearms
>>680544
>Live in CA. Can't do shit.
Why? Your legs broke? Open season on coyotes all year long, no limit. Burbs? Crossbow is your friend, perfectly CA legal. Unincorporated area? Rifle, pistol, or shotgun, whichever floats your boat.
Instead of whining, get off your ass and do something about it.
>>686042
I am in Burbs, she is out of city limits but she lives right by a state road and can't legally shoot at an animal within 100 yards of it, or in the direction of the road.
The road runs an L around her property.
>>686058
That applies if you're on the road. That does not apply if you're 100 yards off firing towards the road.
>>679242
Sweetheart I can't overcompensate with this.
>>679503
Rattlesnakes
>>685280
>a pissed off native guy who wants your Shit
This
My area has some gorgeous sticks and national parks, all around great woodland. Unfortunately it's also surrounded by natives. This means that not only are they growing marijuana and refining drugs in shacks innawoods, but they are also poaching. People can and have been murdered out here by methed-up Native Mob members. Oh also wolves are absolutely illegal to shoot. For any reason, unless your life is in danger. Muh sacred animal. Hence the wolf population is out of control. This is also on top of the already previously mentioned dangers of moose and bear. I feel safe with my AK with me.
Also it's fun, fuck you.
>>686065
>Be snek
>Doin snek things slithrin and hissin
>Smell human on the wind
>Snek defenses activate
>Shake piss outta snek tail so blundering human doesnt step on me
>Instead of leaving Human walks right up to me
>Rattling the everloving fuck outta my tail snek here, dont step
>Human pulls out break barrel rifle
>ohfuckthisisit.snekpg
>Bright flash
>Meet snek creator
>Has arms
>Snek god says Im going to snekhell because I am an alcohol and beat my wife and children
If its BLM or a national forest I'll take my RIA 1911 with 3 extra mags. Especially out in the Salmo-Priest basin. It may not stop a bear, but it scares the fuck outta the Canadians trying to come over to 'murika
>>686058
Check the wording of the regs very carefully, then use a crossbow if that's the only way you can do it.
>>686174
Funny but it was more like
>be sleeping
>loud bark at 7am
>dog needs to go out
>let her out and that whirlrattle sounds
>get her back inside
>grab snek shotgun
>grab stick
>I'm only in combat boots and underwear
>get snek to coil on stick
>flip away from house
>one shot to the head
>skin it, gut it, cook it up for breakfast
>dry the skin and put it on my hat
>such are mornings in the northern mojave
>>682813
The reason you would want a 45-70 over a 308 is for the very reason the 308 is ballistically superior. The 45-70 is a very heavy slow moving round that will go through dense brush, thick hide, bone, and heavy muscle whereas a smaller lighter round might not penetrate to the vitals of a large animal like a moose or bear. 45-70s have been used to take the big 6 in africa, don't try that with a 308.
>>685237
That was more of a joke but if I bring long guns into the woods I usually leave it strapped to the outside of my pack and no one seems to take issue with it
All though my state is pretty progun (virginia )
>>685237
Also nice sbr man 10.5?
I'm considering either a sbr stamp (I have a 11.5 pistol) or a suppressor stamp (I would build it) then pin and weld it to my barrel and throw on a stock so I wouldn't need a stamp
>>686444
Yeah It's a 10.5, I'm Canadian though so we don't have this stamp business to deal with which means we can just buy it and walk out of the store with it when the transfer is completed(wait time of one day to a week). Downside of that is we can't take ARs innawoods, Or have suppressor for that matter.
Here in Canada when you are in an area where a firearm is necessary, no one would hassle you, since the anti gun crowds don't venture far out.
>>680297
To be fair, the number 1 rule of gun safety is NEVER point them at a person, especially at your fucking head
>>686522
Looking down the barrel is a perfectly acceptable (and widely taught) way of checking it for obstructions after the firearm has been cleared, and the action locked open.
>>686607
No. No it's not.
>>686760
Um, ok, maybe I've been out of touch for a while or something. Different anon, btw.
In the 70s and 80s the accepted way to do it was to clear/open the breech, stick a thumb in the breech and reflect light off of your thumbnail so you could look down the bore from the muzzle.
>>686783
Can confirm. This is what I was taught to do in a firearm safety course.
I like my tavor, been thinking about getting a pistol soon though
>>686800
Get a deagle
remove kebab
>>686783
It's what I was taught in a firearms course as well. Obviously it's only for sports shooting where you have the time for it, which is what my instructor stressed.
There's no other way to check a bore for fouling and obstructions.
>>686856
Easily and quickly, I should say. You don't always have a cleaning rod.
>>686516
I almost envy you (hahahah not really... sorry about your laws up there)
But it would be nice to put a stock on this without going to prison or paying 200
But unfortunately it becomes about 10 times more dangerous and worthy of a felony if you do down in the states
Hell if it was about 2" shorter and I put a vertical grip instead of an angled it would also be more dangerous and scary so I'd get a felony
I just finished it about 2 weeks ago and in another 2 weeks when my UQ gets in I'll be going /out/ for a 2.5 day trip with some friends and do some plinking
I would really like a suppressor tho so I don't disturb others who enjoy going /out/ but are not a fan of firearms so much. Suppressors just seem more polite to everyone.
Also that's my new pack! I hope it's nice like the reviews
>>686874
Haha, I although though it's the arcteryx pack that I have when I first looked at the picture.
>>686875
I'm a little paranoid about it now after this guy showed me a picture of his rifle that exploded while hunting because a piece of branch got into the barrel.
>>686883
What could have been anon....I think we should see other people...
How much does your rifle weigh in at with those quad rails?
It's a kelty red cloud 90.
I'm hoping I didn't go too big. I wanted something I could use for 3-5 day trips.
I used my rush 12 (12 hour pack lol) for a few 2.5 -3 day hikes and while I got everything I needed the lack of nice suspension + frame wasn't all too fun and if I wanted to carry more I would be SOL
I would have my tarp, hammock, sleeping bag, and sleeping pad all on the outside
Inside was my filter, cookware, food, 2 32 ounce Gatorade bottles, and either a base layer change of clothes or an extra layer for insulation depending on Temps
I had no room for much else and that wasn't terrible but I would like the option for more (maybe some ammo, extra water for when I can't find any, fun bushcraft gear like my carving knives ya know? And keep more gear inside for some dirt/water protection) What size pack is that and how long could you comfortably sustain yourself out of it? What do you typically have to carry for where you go? It doesn't get super cold (lowest that isn't abnormal is 10 ish but very rarely we dip lower l) so cold weather gear isn't a huge concern
>>686900
Honestly I haven't weighed it yet, it's just a standard Daniel defense mk18 with their fixed iron sights, I'm buying an elcan for it though and that's gonna add over a pound to it.
I generally just do 2-3 day trips over the weekend so I don't carry much, most of the times I'm taking it to my friend's cottage in the winter so no camping gear, just clothes, cold weather gear, snacks and water while doing snowshoeing and cross country try skiing stuff. I also have a first aid kit and an emergency kit (high vis chem lights, life boat rations, water purification tabs, IR strobe, etc)velcroed in there semi-permanently. It's basically my gear bag since I'm not full time or hardcore /out/.
