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CLASSIC CAR GENERAL
single digit mpgs edition

Post classic cars
Post classic car projects
Post classic car feels
Blogpost classic cars


Anything applies. Muscle, landbarge, trucks, European, Japanese. If its older than 25 years post about it here.

last thread >>13908020
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I really want to import a japanese classic
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>>13950638
There's plenty of cool early Japanese cars already out there in the US, early Celicas, Corrolas, Coronas, 510s, save one from a stancefag before they all dry up
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>>13950658
Unfortunately, there are very few in the Atlanta area in good condition. Just a few Zs.
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>>13950660
Cool thing about cars is they are quite easy to transport, most can even move under their own power, so you can buy them outside your immediate area. It might even be easier to buy one 500 miles away than shipping one from halfway across the world sight unseen.
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>>13950677
I guess you're right. I'll look further
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>>13950689
Use SearchTempest. Buying a classic isn't like buying a new car, you need to accept that you will need to search for weeks or months, look in a large radius, and go see cars that you may not end up buying.
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Still might be buying this Kingswood after all, said he's got to look at it and bring it back himself but it might be a few weeks due to his new apprenticeship just starting up

Told me he doesn't even know what engine is in it. May be anything from a 173 to a 350. Whatever it is i just hope its in nice condition and isn't a rust bucket

Been looking for a HQ for 2 years now, very hard to find for under 2000 which is surprising since they made literally half a million of them. So for $200 AND its a wagon its a bonus for me

/blog
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>>13950738
Nice, keep us updated
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Reporting in.

Winter sucks.
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A bmw 128i sport pack would smoke all cars in this thread. Classic cars suck in all areas.
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>>13951013
So is this going to be the copypasta troll for Classic threads, now?
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>>13951018
How is it a trolling when it's the truth. Why spend $ on a classic when a used 1 series does it all better and reliably.
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>>13951024
Because it was $150 and can haul stuff in the bed, pull a trailer, or plow snow, and I like it.

Also. This is bait.
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>>13951024
>german
>reliable
pick one

>rental car
lmao
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>>13951072
>plow snow

are you the guy with the kingswood? Could it actually do that?
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Time for rebuilds...
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>Dad used to own a VC Valiant w/ 225 slant
>ran out of water in radiator during a family roadtrip 300km coming home
>no water
>no choice
>used his beers for the radiator
>drove the car home, without stopping baking the engine
>sacrificed his beers and his car for us
>god bless
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>>13951604
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>>13935460 here,
see, from the get-go i've been getting the feeling it'd be worth it if only that i could lowball the living fuck out of it for the exact reasons >>13941903 and >>13944498 gave.

Just by where its from and the condition it's in, this thing went through Sandy and probably sat in the drink for a while. i mean shit, look at the driver side, the collector is *gone* and by the looks of it so is the floorpan. shit's sitting like that because the torsion bar mounts are rusted out. the quarters i'll give a pass on because northeast winters do that.

between all that, the "heading to the crusher" bit, and knowing that scrap prices absolutely suck right now, part of me says there's a chance I could talk them down to $700 if I went in person. The other part says the whole thing is a stupid idea. Worst case i'd be in over my head just replacing every other piece of metal in that thing, because truthfully i could give a rats ass about the original interior outside of maybe the headliner trim, because truthfully the dash doesn't look completely fucked. And the fact that they managed to get it on a forklift without it folding over does give me some hope.
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>>13951864
I wouldn't even pay $300 for it. Gell, I only paid $750 for this thing
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>>13951864
With current scrap prices that things worth about a hundred bucks. He's on glue if he thinks it's worth 1500.
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>>13951864
Don't buy that Dart anon. Being a Mopar guy myself, you could have a decent one for what it will cost to fix the body.. Move along
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>>13951864
how about these
http://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/5305573174.html
http://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/5328033800.html

Better bases, more collectable and the charger has better potential and an easier starting point. the barracuda is good because its cheap and you could easily swap in a reconditioned 225 or v8 swap it. Has a good interior too
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>>13951604
F m8
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>grandma had a brown Nissan 280ZX
>used to drive me around in it when I was little
>learned how to drive a standard shift in that car
>one day, grandma had a huge heart attack and died in the hospital
>she left the car to him in her will
>he wasn't thinking straight and wanted nothing of the Z anymore
>sent it to the junk yard
>he now regrets it every day
>mfw we both lost a momento to our lost grandma
>mfw we lost a nice classic car
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... so I've found a '67 bug in my area for cheap. From the pics on craigslist it seems a bit worse for wear, but as long as it isn't complete trash I'd like to buy it.

One issue I'm going to have is that I don't really know what direction I should go with the build. I don't know if I want to restore it and sell it, partially restore it and sell it, or hot rod the shit out of it and keep it (or maybe sell it).

Thoughts, guys?
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>>13952691
post pics
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>>13952192
Charger is kinda pricey, and from what I have heard it is hard to find parts for that year. The Barracuda on the other hand would be pretty mean looking the way it is if you just swap in a v8.

I assume you live on Long Island though, your best bet would be to make a trip to Connecticut and find something there and bring it home. It would be cheaper than whatever you find on the island.

Here is something interesting though that you may be interested in https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/5322478577.html
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>>13952691
What price? Pics needed, also does it run, hit all the gears, and drive well?
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who /comfy/ for the winter here?
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>>13953893
Post more pics or gtfo
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obligatory carshow pic
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Just drove her down from my parents house hence the different garage. Needs a wash/wax
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>>13951604
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also needs a lot of detailing under the hood
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>>13952643
ouch
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been meaning to post in one of these.

>>13953893
>80's turbo time get
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>>13953440
Any 60s Mopar is a bitch yo source parts for, but B bodies are definitely not the worst. And anything bigger than a 273 in the barracuda is going to be a nightmare of front suspension as that was the largest 8 offered. The charger, by contrast, was offered with a 383 and can handle a 440 beautifully. It also seems to be in driving condition as I look at it. Good luck.
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>>13952192
I live on LI too fa.m, and when I was looking for a car I was looking in east PA, Connecticut, and Jersey. You'll find some good shit out in the sticks of PA for 3k that'll run you 8k in NY

https://cnj.craigslist.org/cto/5330344611.html
>trims in good shape
>bumper and grill in great shape
>its just sitting there, rotting away

fuuuuck. I know it'll look worse in person, but a fucked up looking Nova is the best kind of Nova
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>>13952192
How much are you willing to pay and what are you looking for? Mopar/Ford/Chevy and what years?
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>by the time I get enough income to buy a classic it'll be too late
I really want an old coupe Chevelle
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>>13955470
71/72's are bountiful and affordable compared to 70's if that's the body you're looking for
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>>13955470
Agreed, 70-72 are the last affordable years for desirable Chevys. Picked this up for 10k.
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>>13957880
Junkyards filled with old cars makes me sad
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awww yeee where my wagon bros at?
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Heartbreaker, I could use some input from you.

I need to bring this thing down to bare metal for a repaint. Do you recommend chemical stripper or sanding? What are you priming with?
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>>13958084
Did you seriously paint that flat black?
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>>13958121
It's just primer, I was just sanding down a treating the rust spots, but then it started looking like a cow.
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>>13958096
I would first look into soda blasting or dry ice, they can come out to your house and do it and you can leave the glass in. If you can't afford that or just want to do it yourself use aircraft paint stripper, it will take forever to sand it. Get most of it off with the stripper then go over everything with 80 grit on a DA. I'm using PPG DP90 with extra reducer for a good seal.
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>>13958096
A I R C R A F T P A I N T R E M O V E R is the official meme of heartbreaker
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>>13958084
nice wheels
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>>13958134
Oh thank fuck. It seems that everyone that can't paint just decides to paint their vehicle flat black with a spray can. Shit's fucking weak
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>>13958096
What color you going for?
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>>13958157
>flat black
>Shit's fucking weak

b-but that's what I'm doing
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>>13958145
thanks man, they're lightweight

>>13958157
I was never a huge fan of flat black, unless it's a 32 ford or something similar.
I still have no clue what color, a dark rich copper would be neat.
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>>13958159
Undecided. I like this color scheme, but I'll have all of the chrome trim and bumpers powdercoated in flat black.
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>>13958208
I think a lighter blue with white would look good.
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>>13958178
>tfw no 2 door full size boomermobile
trade my 4 door any day, but my dad likes my 4 door too much so ill be giving that to him
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>>13958223
I'm going for a more sinister look. Like this but with blue.
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>>13950926
Neato man. What's your Camaro got Dien to it? I miss mine

Disco Nova reporting
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>>13958208
I think this color looks fantastic on 71's.

>flat black trim and bumpers
Sounds pretty solid m8
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>>13958255
As it sits, it's a forged 427 BBC with a TH400 behind it.

I'm hoping to sell the drivetrain for an LS1/T56 sometime next year, but short term plans are wheels, tires and disc brakes.
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>>13958240
Some day senpai, some day
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>>13958189
Go with babby blue
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>>13958255
Look it's my favorite car on /o/. How's that nova doing man? Anything new done to it?
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>>13958283
Aw man keep it big block

>>13958313
Nothing new. It's in storage but me and my dad are getting parts together to build a roller cam 406 with a lightened eagle crank, maybe some dart iron heads, and an aluminum intake.
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>>13958358
Sounds nice, hope that turns out well. Are you gonna keep it in storage for the winter?
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>>13958358
If I were building it as a drag car I would, but I dream of pro-touring.
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>>13958370
Yep. It been in storage for a while but it wasn't my decision to store it so early in the winter. We've had more than a few nice days where I wish the car wasn't 30 minutes away in a locked warehouse. With the new motor I would like to see high 11s.

>>13958373
Good luck. I have yet to see a pro touring 2nd Gen I dont like.
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>>13958394
Nice, I wish I was able to store mine for the winter. Sadly it is my daily all year round. What kind of times do you get with it the way it is?
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>>13958417
Our fastest pass was 13.01 at 106 but spinning. So that would put in the mid 12s. The new motor will have more compression, Rev faster, and be all around more power. We are also considering putting a 700r4 in it so we can play with shift points and such but we're taking it one step at a time. It came is an MSD 6AL-2 box so it has a 2 step Rev limiter that we can also play with to launch harder. But traction is our main issue. We might get a pair of radial slicks and see how those work.
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>Best friend and I are talking about project cars
>I love GTO's and anything Pontiac
>He says, "Anon, I have a '74 Cordoba you can have"
>Rebuilt the Transmission and 4 barrel carb in 2009
>Drove for 1 mile before stalling out from worlds rustiest gas tank and fuel pump failure
>Removed tank to be re coated... but it never happened


TL:DR. I have a standing offer for a garage kept, clean Chrysler Cordoba for free. Friend just was to see the thing getting used.

Is a Cordoba (auto only) a true Mopar?

bonus: The "Corinthian leather" from Newark, New Jersey is still in great shape.
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>>13958510
what engine does it have in it?

Sounds like a pretty damn good deal to me, only problem is how good of friends are you two? He might change his heart if he see's you driving around his car after he gave it to you. Happened when i was given a motorcycle for free and when i fixed it up the farmer assumed i was going to give it back. Awkward as hell explaining that to him after his firm beliefs.

But that sounds cool, get it, opportunities like this dont happen often, like that anon buying a $200 kingswood
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>>13958543
Why the hell would the guy expect the bike back if he gave it to you? That makes no fucking sense
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temperature gauge stopped working.

apart from the temp sensor... what else could it be :/
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>>13958636
Wiring or the gauge just plain 'ol died
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>>13958639
yeah, was a bit on/off for a while then it stopped altogether... hoping it was the sensor.

have to buy another one. fug
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>>13958560
it happened, he gave it to me, saw how well it ran telling me it was just like it was 30 years ago and told me that i did a good job. Motherfucker asked if i wanted a ride home in his truck, i asked why because apparently i just gave him a motorcycle how else am i getting home? I was showing him the bike when it was completed out of interest and i guess he assumed i was giving it back

Had to clear it up, he was pissed, and didn't even say goodbye. It got weird, stopped hanging around him, idk wtf happened but it did
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>>13958648
The gauge in my truck kinda half worked, the needle never went to far up on the gauge, so I got a new temp sender and it didn't fix anything. I guess the old temp sender was toast for so long, that the gauge just got stuck. I'm just going to put an aftermarket gauge in.

>>13958653
That's just full retard. Who knows what in the hell that guy was thinking
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i really want a chevelle ss

my stepfather had one he was working on when i was growing up so it's pretty much my dream car due to the level of exposure i had

problem is that i make jack shit and i'm overpaying for my apartment, so i can't really afford one unless the engine has been taken out and it's been rusting away for ages

what do /ccg/
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>>13958799
buy a cheap throwaway wagon to sleep in to get out of apartment, buy a PO box, make funds, improve your life THEN look at buying a chevelle

dont prioritise wants over needs anon because at this rate you want to either get lucky and buy one cheap or settle for a later chevelle. why not get a chevelle malibu for now?
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1967 fastback mustang
302 swap from foxbody
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>>13958488
Mid 12s isn't bad, and I think radial slicks would probably be a good idea. I can't wait to hear how it performs when everything you want is done with it though.

>>13958799
Depending on the year and condition you can get a 2-door Chevelle for not a crazy amount of money. And then you could always just make it into a SS clone if it means that much to you.
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>>13950628
temperature gauge stopped working.

apart from the temp sensor... what else could it be :/
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>>13959091
Gauge itself could be dead
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>>13959091
doh, wrong text. backed too many times.

this is the temp sensor yeah? (mr2 aw11)

i always thought the temp sensor was in the radiator?

so the temp gauge shows the ambient air temp not the cooling water temp? seems a bit dumb :/
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>>13959102
Senders are normally somewhere near the water inlet into the top of the engine. They obviously do not show ambient air temp.
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>>13959112
looks like pic related and it goes into nothing... :/
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>>13958911
Ahh yes, that light Ford Blue
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>>13959091
>>13959102
wat da fackin shit m8

holy fuck download a fucking manual cunt, this shit aint fucking hard or uncommonl.

Fucking ay you cunts be dumber than a bag of rocks some days.

Theres a handful of temperature sensors in an MR2. les go from front to back for you slow kids.

In the front radiator we have
>Themo-Fan Switch
All this shit does is turn on or off the electric fans on the radiator

The one you found is the
>Engine Bay Temperature Sensor
All this shit does is turn on the electric fan located behind the air intake. i almost called it the drivers side air intake but you sound like you got a learning disability so i guess youre american.

Then on the thermostat housing you have the
>ECU Coolant Temperature Sensor
This is for cold start enrichment and if disconnected will also trigger the "check engine" retard light.

Right then we come to the one youre dumb ass is actually looking for the
>Dashboard coolant temperature sensor
Also known as the
>Head coolant temperature sensor

This cunt is located on the timing belt side of the engine, on the head. it has a single wire leading to it.
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>>13959221
here i fucking illustrated that shit for you
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>>13959148
>2v intake
gross.

insert holley high rise tunnel ram intake now
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>>13959148
Where is your intake filter you pleb

what could you expect from a fard owner
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Learning to bondo, how am I doing senpai, I know I missed a spot, got it today.

Also got the vinyl trim, rocker panel molding, and that stupid side trim off, she looks 100x better already.
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>>13959266
You better be grinding down absolutely all the rust, or using rust converter.
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>>13959288
Yep, I fucking soaked just that one spot I missed today, tried to get as deep as I could all around. My dad is helping me out and he's done this shit plenty of times before
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>>13959146
This is usually screwed into the side of the block on older cars.
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>>13959231
Dudebro, you've seen my engine a whole lot, you know it's a 4 barrel
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>>13959368
I am just playing lol. better than my one barrel.
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>>13959308
I think you meant to say "Intake Manifold" instead of block.
unless you mean really old cars
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short-term namefagging cuz i get the feeling ppl got me confused with another anon who was trying to help me out. tl;dr, ain't buying it cuz yeah, motor and *maybe* tranny aside, shit's too fucked to bother for the price even if i can undercut them.

>>13952192 barracuda listing got taken down, but if it's the one i think it was, i've had my eye on it but felt hesitant on it, too. the charger... lukewarm on it.

>>13955414
>>13953440
ironically im from CT, just very familiar with LI, and i'd agree with you on everything but buying in CT unless like you said, you go out in the sticks or luck out. otherwise you'll get the full boomer tax. Eyeing a few other decent 70s A-bodies a bit further out west, but for the time being i'll sit and search a bit longer. Thanks to all for the suggestions, i gotta hit the hay. </blogging>
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>>13959375
One day if you're not broke and don't swap in a V8, you can build your 300
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>>13959385
Good luck buddy.

You just gotta be patient, and not being picky about what specific car you want is good too if you're just looking for a certain era of car.
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>>13959387
I have thought about it at length, and it just isn't worth it. the biggest modification I can see myself doing would be a clifford 6-8 or offy 4160 intake with a edelbrock 390cfm carb.

in all honesty though, I think I might install a 50 shot of nos just for keks.
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>>13959399
I've always wondered, have you rebuilt an engine before, or done major engine work?
Cause really, if you had an engine hoist, stand and a decent variety of tools, you could rebuild it no problem. Most expensive thing would be the intake and carb, I'd imagine it would be maybe $1000-$1500 to do it, depending on the quality of the stuff you want
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>>13959409
I really wish I had a hoist and stand, cause I really wanted to put some new rings and bearing in my engine. It also needs a new rear main seal and oil pan gasket. And I already took the engine down to almost bare basics
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>>13959423
Some rear mains you can do with the engine and trans in, you need a special tool, looks like a chinese finger trap
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>>13959409
I have swapped the engine in my buddies B5 a4 and I have taken apart the engine on my old SL125 and I can disassemble and reassemble a honda predator 212cc motor blind folded. I think though, when the time comes, I will be swapping to a 351 or a 302. As much as I love the 300, their's no point in modding this engine.

I have the tools to work on the truck, that's how I got it working and running in the first place.
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>>13959430
I'd go with 351 instead of a 302. do you still want to do the TBI upgrade instead of a carb? Cause that shit is crazy expensive. All the ones I see on Summit are around $2000
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>>13959449
If I went 351, which is what I would prefer, I would try to stay with carbs at first. it is just cheaper you know. I wouldn't mind an EFI 351 with the factory TBI, but I would need a piggyback ECU or something at some point. It is all down the road. I really want a 428 or 429 but that shit isn't happening on a college kids budget. 390 might be an option, but not at this point.

I want to stick to a small block just because they have the same bellhousing as the 300, so it would make swapping transmissions a hell of a lot easier.

do you know if the 300 and the 351 are the same pattern? I know the 302 and 300 are.
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>>13959456
240/300/302/351w and 351c all should have the same pattern. So you should be able to swap in a 351 and still keep the same C6 tranny
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>>13959466
fuck yeah. 351w would be awesome. My truck originally came with a T18 or T19, so the hinges for the clutch are still their. eventually I want a ZF S5-42 but I wouldn't mind a T18/9 as long as I can regear the Dana 60 to a 3.91 or 3.73 gears. it costs like 900 to do so though.
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>>13959473
Just drop in an LS my dude :^)

Is that the edit I did btw?
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>>13959486
I think so. want to do another?

>Just drop in an LS my dude :^)
fuck that, I would rather drop in a raptor 6.2l modular. or a triton V10
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Hey guys, I'm a little upset because the new place my familly just moved to doesn't have a garage. The house is nice enough, but there isn't a garage for my barge. I have a decent cover, but considering how heavy the snow can get in MA, I'm not sure it'll be enough. It's the only car I have so I'm gonna be driving it to work anyway, but at least the streets will be semi-clear. I'm just worried about it getting damaged under all the weight of the wet snow. it doesn't need any more dents than it already has.
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>>13959486
I wish these rear discs would still fit my stock 14" steel rally wheels. Would love to have them widened and put a set of drag radials on them
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>>13959496
http://www.harborfreight.com/10-ft-x-17-ft-portable-garage-69039.html
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>>13959506
Thanks senpai, I feel like a fucking idiot now.
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>>13959491
Shore m8, post em

>>13959498
that two tone was MADE for such a comfy place like that. holy fug.

How long did it take you to get the rears sorted out by the way?
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>>13959509
Still not quite finished, but VERY close. Fucking thing keeps springing leaks. I'm about to just buy two new calipers and call it a day.

BUT I started it and rocked it back and forth yesterday. I miss this car. I wonder how long the trans will last now that I have a posi and 275s
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>>13959509
thanks mate, I appreciate it. your work was great. I just have a few bike pics of my motorcycle.
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>>13959527
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>>13959509
Don't suppose you'd do this one as well, please?
>>13951892
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>>13959527
>>13959532

>Not in my State, no chance of a old bike meet up.

Why even wake up tomorrow.
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>>13959548
dank maymays. I want to sell my old bike for an old car though. bikes are a ton of fun, but winter is a cruel and unforgiving mistress.
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>>13959517
>hipster motorcycle
pretty neat, I like it/10
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>>13959554
wow that looks fucking awesome. did you know how to do the oil pastel painting photoshop?

that looks awesome though!
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>>13959552

Even worse, not even the same part of the world, onle glanced at plate and thought it was one of ours in Aus, but Portland...thats even further.
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>>13959552
>I want to sell my old bike for an old car though
Don't be a bitch
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>>13959527
shieeeet >>13959554

>>13959532

All I'm doing is just jacking up the saturation/vibrance in lightroom my nigga, its pretty ez
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>>13959559
haha yeah oregon is a bit of a distance homie. that kawa is pretty good looking though.
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>>13959564
looks fucking good.

>>13959562
bikes come and go, my testicles, fingers and ears however don't last through the cold lol.
>but riding is fucking fun

all I know is that I will be trying to buy a liter or bigger bike after my internship in london this summer.

>>13959564
thanks mate.
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>>13959564
Shit that one looked a lot less yellow on my other monitor kek

>>13959541
I've been on a temp slider kick lately, I just bring it up just as the picture starts to turn yellow and it gives it a filmy vibe I guess, I think it looks alright
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>>13959565

Cheers man, fun too ride aswell, 900 screwed out to just over 1000cc makes the old bike pretty pokey.
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>>13959573
>bikes come and go, my testicles, fingers and ears however don't last through the cold lol.
Don't be a bitch
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>>13959583
that's gotta be a laugh with the rolly polly old bike suspension and old bike brakes.
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>>13959582
Neat, thanks, eh
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>>13959587

Like a loud, powerfull cloud around corners.
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>>13959558
Not a clue family

>>13959584
Did you make that fucking gopro bracket?

>>13959591
Thanks for keeping this general alive man, I always see you, blue conemarofag, valiant cunt, and a few others who always stick around here to blogpost
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>>13959604
they look like this, it's cool as fuck.
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Someone's gotta do it.
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>go to garage to continue working on my car
>realize I forgot some gaskets
>realize it's almost winter anyway
>go home without even touching the car
Fuck it, it'll never run.
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How dumb would it be to let someone polish a single stage paint job? I'm scared as hell that I'll take all the paint of, but if I let a shop do it it's their responsibility, right?
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>>13958510
You can get a clean old car for free, and you're worried about whether people will think it's a real Mopar or not?

You are a fucking idiot.
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Just bought a 265 small block for the chebby, hopefully get it in and running for the summer, same goes for the mk7 transit axle. 2016 will be the 60mph, monoxide poisoning free year!


>>13959610

That looks awesome, how did you do that?
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I will never understand panel van culture

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hmCFytIQHw
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>>13960148
any pics of the small block? how much?
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>>13960173

Just the ones from the seller, hopefully try and pick it up over the weekend. It's not the greatest engine, it's 60yrs old for a start, but more than enough for the old chebby.

Paid £350 for it.
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>>13960197
looks solid, good buy, did you buy a transmission also?
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>>13960200

No, the truck's got the original 4spd muncie in it, which feels great, fingers crossed they should bolt up without too much trouble. Pretty sure i'll have to recess the block into the firewall and make some motor mounts, but it shouldn't be too much work.

Not sure whether to keep the fan on the motor, or mount a leccy one on the radiator?
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>>13958510
It's definitely a Mopar. Desmog that 318 and run true duals with headers and you are at 350hp
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So my parents had a 64-70 Duster (which they ended up selling) idk what year is believe it was around there and I don't even know what manufacturer it's from...all I know is that it has that classic muscle car look that's an icon of those years or generation whatever you want to call it. Anybody know if these were a common platform to modify be for looks or drag racing? Care to drop a picture since I'm admitingly being lazy due to the fact I had someone die this morning on the way to the OR
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>>13960473
There is so much difference between every year of the 60s. My guess is its Was a Dart if you are reaching back to 64. Really need some more info to be sure. Also allpar dot com
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>>13951892
$750? You stole it!
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Rebuilding my 350 engine. Some anon gave me great advice about DCR and cam selection. Now I'm at a point where I'm almost ready to order all my parts. One issue I have though is the quench.

I'm reading that the quench for a mildly build SBC should be anywhere from .04 to .05. That should ensure smooth running with no detonation. They say anything under .4 and you're playing with fire. I can get about .064 with 'stock' replacements for the engine. That is, normal deck height, and standard head gasket size.

With the calculated stats, I can only get a pretty high quench. Is this acceptable? Should I try to get it lower? The only thing I can seem to get it lower is by either lowering my deck height, or getting a thinner headgasket. The thinnest I've found on Summit is a .027" gasket. Is that a safe size to run? I've read that some people say that gaskets have become thicker for no reason, where manufacturers would run very thin from the factory back in the day.
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>>13961086
It had other people interested but nobody wanted to really buy it, so I did. And some dick stole parts off it, but I got them back
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>>13961335
Get a thinner head gasket but double check the actual cam lift numbers at TDC to check for collision issues. As long as you double check your measurements you will be fine. And .064 is not a bad quench figure for a stock build but performance wise, thin that gasket.
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>>13961335
Also, are you destroking that 350? Those numbers are closer to a 302 ci displacement.
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>>13961430
Yeah, that .027 gasket puts me at .05 quench which should be good.

How would I check for collision issues? I'm not well versed in valvetrain stuff
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>>13961436
That's the dynamic stroke. If I unchecked the box it goes back to 3.48 and ~9.5 CR.
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>>13961437
The only ways I have tested is by fully compressing the valve spring to highest lift figure and measuring the amount of valve travel on a bench. As long has the total valve length (lift) is less than your distance from top of cylinder wall at TDC+gasket thickness- any decking done you are okay. The other, simpler method is only doable if the heads are bolted to the block with just rotating assembly and valvetrain installed. Rotate engine by hand to cyl1 TDC and listen for any metal on metal noise.

What's your power goal?
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>>13961466
350hp at the crank +/- 25. Its also going to be a daily driver
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>>13961509
You sticking with iron heads? I'd heavily suggested aluminum heads and copper sprayed head gaskets. The head swap alone will unlock a few ponies as will a good set of headers and a full exhaust. Older V8s just didn't breathe well at all to control emissions and shit which ended up doing the opposite.
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>>13961519
Everything is changing but the block. I'm looking into AFR, Trick, dart, or vortecs. Why aluminum over iron?
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>>13961519
Crank will be stock too
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>>13961659
for one you have a ton of weight savings, but it more matters on the flow of the heads than the material. what kind of intake are you going for?
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>>13961659
Weight is much lower and they flow better than irons. Also, porting is easier and you can usually run a slightly higher CR and keep octane requirements the same. That's what happened when I went from ported 906 heads to Super Stealth heads, I used to have to run 100 octane race unleaded or swap to a larger jet to prevent detonation. Now, it does fine on 93 octane but much prefers 110AvBlu with UCL.
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>>13961700
Something like this

http://m.summitracing.com/parts/edl-2701

Or this
http://m.summitracing.com/parts/drt-42811000

>>13961739
I guess it came down to cost. But I'll go aluminum if its that much more beneficial
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>>13961739
>>13961700
I also want to keep my quadra-jet
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>>13961819
Why would you keep the quadra jet? get a better carb
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>>13961823
I've read while it can be temperamental, it actually performs very very well compared to many aftermarket replacements.
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>>13961816
this might interest you
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>>13961835
>>13961816
fuck

http://www.hotrod.com/features/1507-20-ls1-intake-manifolds-tested/
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>>13961849
I see how aluminum can be a benefit but that's for an LS1. Ive got a Gen 1 SBC 350.
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>>13961823
Quadrajets aren't bed they are just more difficult to tune correctly.
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>>13961874
what I figured you could get out of the article was how different intake types affect the power curve. plus, dual vs single plane, what kind of carbs, and high rise vs low rise.
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>>13961883
I didn't see the carb stuff until after I posted. Thank you for that info
>>13961881
Yeah, but part of me really wants to use it because reasons.
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>>13961898
I fully support that anon. Godspeed.

Pic related muh Eddy but I wish I had a Holley
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>>13961905
>tfw autolite 1100
I just want muh 4160
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>>13961905
also did you design and fabricate that engine bay bracing?
>and dem valvecovers
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>>13961905
What's wrong with the Edelbrock?

I'm not too impressed with with my Holley 4160 I got last year september. Right from factory the idle was at like, 2300 rpm, even with the idle speed screw backed all the way out it idles around 1400 rpm. As a result I had to put a beefy spring on the throttle to actually close the throttle plates more. The electric choke also shit out on me 2 months into owning it too.
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>>13961928
It's fine I just want a double pumper with mechanical secondaries for stupid throttle response.

>>13961927
Nope bought that stuff pre-fabbed. Need to get as much bolt on bracing as I can because my wife isn't cool with me putting in a cage...yet
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>>13961905
Very nice. Here's mine empty while it all gets done
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>>13961944
>its actual bracing
Oh shit kek, I saw the gopro on it and thought you just juryrigged something to record touge runs
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>>13961898
You can still use the QJet if you want, but id rebuild it at a minimum and see how it performs. With as much as you are changing, a 750CFM HDP sounds like a better bet or a 670cfm Demon. And I stand behind what I said about aluminum heads, they are worth every penny if you are going beyond IHE like you are.
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>>13962167
IHE meaning > 1 HP per cubic inch?
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>>13961944
Are those the ones from protouringfbody?
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>>13962004
Well I did jerry rig the camera on there, but yes it's an actual brace. The footage was super shaky and unuseable though
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>>13962398
Yes.
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>>13962426
You'll have to post an update after you install all of that and take it around some turns. I'm definitely interested in them for the '72, seems like a good value for the money.
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>>13962385
Intake headers exhaust.
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>>13962593
They help a lot. Probably second best investment after subframe connectors as long as your body mounts aren't original.
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did anbody here drive classic cars during senior school?

Drove my Valiant in year 12, stuck out amongst my friends contemporary cars like dogs balls, and while i thought it was cool, it probably made me look hyper autistic
>pic unrelated
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>>13963023
this was my dd for the latter half of senior year, slow as fuck but I loved it, and so did the ladies.
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I wish I had some spare cash. This would be wicked
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>>13963034
is the 5 litre i6 any good? tell me its torquey at least
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>>13963044
me too. then I wouldn't have to DD a motorcycle in oregon during winter.
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>>13963044
forgot http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/sum-cbjj114/applications/year/1973/model/f-100-pickup?prefilter=1
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>>13963047
it's reliable as fuck, it's torquey as shit, but it is slow as hell. it also rumbles quite a bit at idle but that is just an old truck thing.
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>>13963023
My wife DD'd her Camaro for her junior and senior year and 2 years of high school, and it was in worse shape than it is now.

>>13963049
Just drive your truck up there.
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>>13963080
2 years of college I mean
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>>13963023
Drove my old 5.0 foxbody in high school
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>>13963052
>tfw no shekels for sik mawds
Man I've been wanting to just get dumpers before I do any work to the motor in my car.

>in parking garage
>some 40 something suburban cunt walks into the street without even looking
>mash the throttle as soon as they pass just to scare the shit out of them
>mfw they jump every time

I'd get my money's worth the first time that shit happens
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>>13958208
Dunkelgelb. I swear, this color looks the tits on absolutely everything and goes well with black.
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What do you guys think is a fair asking price for the front and rear seats with brackets? They're the stock "Bucket" seats in almost perfect condition, with the bench in back.

I'm hoping to break even on a set of Corbeaus.
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>>13963080
>Just drive your truck up there.
that's the plan, waiting for spring break when I have a weekend to do so.

>>13964256
muh dick
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>>13951023
Love that
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bumping with super sexy classic
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>>13951122
I'm a guy with a Kingswood Ute, but I'm not the guy you're quoting.

As an update on the Kingswood. Ordered a new Engine Thermostat housing because the old one is like 40 years old and is rusted to shit. Unfortunately it's coming from Australia and they're out of stock, supposed to restock next week which means it'll arrive in New Zealand in like 2 weeks.
Fortunately my time will be productive. Have to work on the lower radiator fitting. I spoke with a guy that can TIG weld and he suggested I try to round the out the tap because it's slightly deformed. and then cut the hose a little shorter so that I can have a go with making it fit before resorting to heavy modification.
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>>13964958
I saw this guy again and actually got to talk to him

The paint on that car is incredible, it's like you could dive in it it's so deep
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>>13965337
Do you have any more pictures?
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>>13965520
on the chrysler or the buick?

both raise penises more than the hub.
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>>13965337
here
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>>13965533
The Buick familia
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>>13965548
ayyyyyy lmaoo
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>>13965550
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>>13965548
although almost all RWD rivieras where pretty good looking.
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>>13965550
>that wave of disappointment that crashes down on you when you realize it's a 73 and not a real boat tail
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>he's too poor to afford a new car
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>>13965538
>>13965524
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>>13965782
>He's too poor to afford a pristine classic
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I don't know what to do /o/

It's parked in front of my house but she refuse to run properly. I just made a quick trip of a few yards before it stopped. When it is "cold" it starts rough but it starts and after a few minutes if i get back to idle it stops. It smell badly of fuel and i suppose that it runs too rich but i don't really know where to start.
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>>13966745
Is the tailpipe shooting out a lot of unburnt fuel? Have you tried adjusting the choke leaner?
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>>13966751
doesn't seem so, it did before but now it seem back to a normal exhaust noise/fume/smell. It smell gas in the motor compartiment.
I didn't adjust the choke leaner because i don't know much in mechanic. I bought the haynes manual for the mustang, i supposed it was something to do with the carburettor but i didn't find how to tune it. If i read correctly the carburettor must have an automatic setting or something like that
(sorry english is not my mother tongue and i must admit that i'm not that good at english technical speak)
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>>13966776
Adjusting a choke is barely mechanical. You loosen 3 screws and twist the choke a one notch at a time right or left. Rotating clockwise opens the choke faster, rotating it counter clockwise keeps it closed longer. Haynes manuals are not the greatest for anything carb related, you'll get much more info from the internet. If the carb is really old you may also need a rebuild kit
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>>13966745
Sunk float/ bad needle&seat?
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>>13966791
>Adjusting a choke is barely mechanical.
i know i know it is more what you call a 'choke leaner' that i don't see what you mean.
>Haynes manuals are not the greatest for anything carb related
it is my main ressource, there still is some informations but i must remove the thermostat to adjust it.
>you'll get much more info from the internet
i'm currently looking with my friend google how he can help me

>>13966851
>Sunk float/ bad needle&seat?
I'm sorry, but i don't understand what you mean : /
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>>13966902
>>13966791
>If the carb is really old you may also need a rebuild kit
I forgot to add : the carburetor had been rebuild "recentely" (ie : a few years ago but the car didn't run that much since)
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Probably getting an '84 C10 Siler ado longed soon, when I swap a motor in it should I go with a Gen I SBC 350, 383, or a LS2/T56?
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Guys anyone have experience drag racing here? This little guy will be in a project me and my dad are working on and I think he means for me to drive it, never been down a track, any tips
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>>13968558
go fast

don't crash
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>>13968558
Get your shifting motions down as good as you possibly can. Last thing you want is to throw a money shift in the middle of a run.
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>>13968558
What you want to do depends on the car. However, if what you are building has a shit ton of torque, go AT and a transbrake for consistent ETs while just needing to know track temp, tire pressures, and reaction time.
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>>13968558
what do you think you need to improve on?
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I want to FUCK this car.

Won Best Hotrod at SEMA 2015

http://www.speedhunters.com/2015/12/muscle-car-meets-hypercar-tantrum-charger/
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http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cto/5300792985.html
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>>13968995
Yes or no guys?
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>>13968995
>http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cto/5300792985.html
go for it. offer 8 and go from there
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>>13968999
Fuck yeah if you're serious about it.

wetsand/compound and that will look like a fucking showcar. If you could get him lower it'd be a steal
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>>13968922
> Those disgusting wheels
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>>13968399
RIP King Kowalsky.
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>>13951024
cause i dont wanna look like a bitch
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>>13969142
imho one of the best road film ever made

interviews with based sarafian about the film are also based, he's able to explain all the films messages and interpretations without even stuttering
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>>13968922
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>>13971253
is that a roush?
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>>13971260
no it's a famas
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>>13971392
Oh, sup /k/?
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I got tired of my hood ornament so i did this.
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