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http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/26/us/brawl-at-california-rally/index.html

(I know sticky said credible source, sorry)
30 skinheads in California try to have a rally, but an anti-fasist group gets there first planning on breaking up the rally. Fighting broke out with knives, sticks, and concrete and multiple people were injured.

Police arrived to keep the groups separate but failed. Anti-fasist were accusing the police of being in league with the skinheads. No arrest as of yet.


I'll be the first to say fuck skinheads, but 1st amendment is 1st amendment and they should not have to fear for their lives during a peaceful protest. What do tall think?
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Doesn't matter who is right and who is wrong, mob rule is a bad thing. Every single one of the "counter-protesters" should go to jail.
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>>54017
I agree, but they really should have started expecting it at this point. I'm not sure why it's so hard for people to be civil in this day and age.
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>>54019
Definitely the ones who fought.

>>54021
Apparently they did know the anti group would be there threatening violence, so they brought knives (legal length) and refused to "stand down".

>>54022
Not all of us white people are crazy, but it does get old having everyone call me a skinhead because I shave and like black boots because of retards like this existing.
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white chimps gonna chimp out and crackers gonna say they dindu nuffin
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>>54027
Wear nicer pants. Like black slacks. Congrats, you no longer look like a skinhead
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I have the same problem, doesn't matter what pants I wear bald and boots = skinhead in general public opinion.
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>>54053
SHARPs are a thing.
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>>54017
>"They never should have gotten a permit to begin with," she said. "The police were out here protecting them. One of our main chants is, 'Cops and Klan go hand in hand' because we know the police are out there to back them up."
>Art Roderick, a CNN law enforcement analyst, said it's common for opposing groups to hold simultaneous protests, but law enforcement usually keeps them separate. It appears the counter-protesters simply overwhelmed the TWP, he said.
>"They (the counter-protesters) were there for one reason and that was to use violence to break the other group up," Roderick said. "It looks like anywhere from 100 to 200 of them showed up against 30 of the other."
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>>54017
antifa are the biggest fascists around today.
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No matter what your views are

No matter what color you are

You have the right to assemble and speak your views in this fucking country.

Shutting down political rallies and protests that you don't agree with is just as "Nazi" as you claim your political enemies to be.

Eventually some Trump supporter is going to use a CC pistol to protect himself from some guy trying to bash his head in and kill some Mexican kid, and this is going to devolve into a civil war between Antifa paramilitiaries, NatSocs, and anybody that doesn't agree with either.

Is this what we want now?
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>>54098
>You have the right to assemble and speak your views in this fucking country.
Not since George W.Bush's executive orders made Free Speech Zones legal.
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>>54100

I didn't post the former in support of any one side.

All I'm saying is beating up people because they don't agree with you.... is not cool.
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>>54101
"Nationalsocialism cannot be beaten in a debate"-adolf hitler
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>>54101
Threats of violence against those who wish to control by violence is... paradoxically effective.
Obviously we don't want to become their equals, but when one oversteps the boundary of having a 'different opinion' into promoting identity politic warfare, there is no alternative way to deliver a message.

As the neofascist money men increasingly fear instability, the truth of the neutrality of violence becomes clear.
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>>54092
nice doublethink, himmler, but bashing the fash is still objectively moral
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>>54143
t. cuck
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>>54098
>Is this what we want now?

Yes

Cohabitation and multiculturalism are lies.
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>>54052
I do wear slacks though, I threw away all my jeans when I turned 18 and stopped going to a school where all camo was the uniform.
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>>54098
Exactly. Trump did everything he could to get people fighting at his rallies including offering to pay their court cost.

>>54109
The problem is violence is met by violence. The nazis brought knives because they knew the AF would be there. Next time they might bring guns instead.
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>>54188
Eugh, do you live in the South? I remember going to college courses around here, and fat chicks and neanderthal dudes wearing all camo was the norm.
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>>54064
Holy shit, do they not realize how blindly hypocritical they are being? Cops and Loan go hand in hand? What the fuck?
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>>54189
Funny thing is that he hasn't actually paid for anything yet. Even the court costs thing was a lie.
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>>54189
>Exactly. Trump did everything he could to get people fighting at his rallies including offering to pay their court cost.

It's fucked up that for months there was routine violence at Trump rallies--people stomping and dragging the shit out of black people, Mexicans and Middle Eastern people who were just minding their own business--but when shit eventually came back and Trump supporters started getting attacked the narrative became that Trump supporters are a bunch of victims and any and all violence is just self defense against the mean ol' scary BernieBros.
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>>54017
On my opinion they should had presented themselves at the Gay parade that was in the weekend, it is in Sacramento there is mostly people from other races what did they expect ?
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Good. It's time for liberal groups to get more violent.

I want blacks to start purchasing rifles instead of pistols.
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>>54189
And having weapons is not a crime either. If I support something and I know that a bunch of people who hate me for it are going to show up where I am, I'm expecting bad things. Which in this case actually happened. Nazi or not, the only ones doing anything wrong here are the antifa
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>>54224
Funny thing is, you support criminals and thugs.
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Go Antifa!
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Every fucking day. Every fucking day the US is becoming the goddamn Weimar Republic. Things are polarizing quickly, politically charged fights in the streets are becoming much more common than they were 5 years ago, we're all facing major reactionary pushback in response to rampant radical leftist nonsense imbuing mass media and political rhetoric.

We all know what came after the Weimar republic
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>>54522
Lol.
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>>54017
>Yvette Felarca, who said she was a member of the group By Any Means Necessary, told CNN she came out to let people know that racist and anti-immigrant viewpoints would not be tolerated.
I'd rather ignore a peaceful band of skinheads than be threatened what to think by a battalion of new Weathermen. If free expression, even if it's reprehensible, is this dangerous then maybe the police should escort the neo Nazis to their constitutionally protected assembly.

>Yvette Felarca, who said she was a member of the group By Any Means Necessary, told CNN
Also she told her name and affiliation to a reporter.

>>54092
>>54143
Fascism was an international political movement in Europe that existed between the World Wars. That's why neo Nazis are illegal in Germany.

This thing with the violent hippies and academics isn't fascism. It prizes individual people over conformers in a society, dislikes military parades, thinks Jews are the best, etc.
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>>54529
Fascism is not a coherent ideology.
Antifa is a fascist organization
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Show me the way to Amarillo da da!!!! All together now !!!!!
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Does anyone know the symptoms of kidney stones?
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I'm worried my house value is going to plummet. I've just discovered possums are living in the roof!!!! doh!
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>>54017
1st amendment just for good people, not for nazi criminals
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>>54556
This desu. National Socialists don't deserve a voice.
They signed away their rights the moment they put the interest of the population first.
I hope some brave group of individuals finally frees us from these horrible people.
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>>54459
How? By pointing out that he said he would pay for court costs, and then didn't?
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>>54673
You don't deserve a voice either though
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You're right. Everyone has a right to a peaceful protest, regardless as to what the are protesting.
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Also being a Nazi doesn't make you a criminal. I'm not saying I support it, but I don't think it makes you a criminal. Saying they don't deserve a voice is not allowing a group of people their basic rights, rights everyone is born with. Where in the Constitution does it say people with different beliefs have different rights
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>>54383
>antifa
>liberals

this is bait, right?
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>>54221
Yep. My graduating class was 2000 people half black/half camo rednecks.

>>54224
>>54353
People are blind. Is like trump supporters don't use the Internet and just go to rallies.

>>54386
Exactly my point. Attacking a group you don't agree with is not going to stop them, it's just going to escalate the violence level. AF need to chill the fuck out before they start a shooting in the streets.
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>>54353
>they were attack because of their race
Kek.
How deluded are you?
Did you not see the video of that black guy Trump supporter getting up and decking the white protester?
Both sides are filled with violence, it is however, a much larger prevalence from anti-trump people than Trump supporters.

Like the guy getting a literal brick to the head for being a Trump supporter.
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>>54536
Pain in the side, followed by pain in the central abdomen, then intense pain as you piss it out, then almost orgasmic relief.
Drink more water and you can avoid them again.
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fuck nazi's (not the german people but the nazi's and everyone who support the nazi's) i mean do those people have a fucking brain or what
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>>54017
i might be able to shed some light on this. I lived in the CA central valley for a few years and my dad and step mom are both in law enforcement.

the claims that were made by the counter protesters are qutie true, especially in Clovis CA. But there is more than just racist cops and small town politics at work here.

The police also hate poor and working class whites there, too. Like a crazy hate on for "white trash". i used to watch broke white kids record their interactions with the cops just like the black, hispanic and asian kids did. I look like white Erkle and i would get hard stares from cops if i was out after dark.

oh one more thing, we went thru three DAs before we found one that would promise not to prosecute the back log of wrongful death investigations involving the cops. yeah, they were beating homeless people to death here.

i don't have much to say about the rally, just thought i would add my piece of the puzzle
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>>54386
ok, now change the group from nazi to nambla, and do you still feel the same?
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>>54741
ok but its not two sides in the US, its multiple factions and splinter groups.

quick question for everyone, what is Balkanization and how does it work? anyone have first hand knowledge?
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>>54017
There's no bigger fascist than an anti-fascist.
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>>55482
cops in clovis are killing off the homeless? I was thinking about trying to move to fresno for a job even if it meant being homeless for a bit. Looks like a no go now
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>>55510
they were, i don't know about now. i haven't been there since moving in november. not even to visit family.
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>>55486
Balkanization references the splitting of a large number of countries in the Balkans due to political, social, and economic politics left over from the cold war era.
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