We've got one for trams. We've got one for bike paths. Ladies and gentlemen, get ready for...
The subway thread!
The Tozai line is a bit of a razor's edge for being called a subway though. It's more like "an underground section joining 2 lines"
Also, Victoria line trains are pretty sexy. A shame it's probably a hellish nightmare due to the lack of aircon though
>>961748
This thread needs more pics.
![755784[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/seyVdsV.jpg "755784[1].jpg")
>>961903
guess the city
>>962235
Prague.
Took this a few months ago, looking out the front cab from Toronto's line 3 from McCowan station
>>962378
only other clean picture I took from the day, can't remember for the life of me which station it is though
I'm thinking Finch
Toulouse has tiny trains and only 2 subway lines. I found this video looking up for pictures to post here, somewhat entertaining? https://youtu.be/lNP2L_7zJLw
How exactly is a station on a system which is really deep (like D.C. or Moscow metro) actually built? I know cut and cover stations are used on systems like NYC and the state/dearborne subways in Chicago.
>>962400
They use a tunnel boring machine.
>>962384
>Look up MetroVAL in Rennes (France), it's pretty cool
Smallest city in the world to have a subway until a few years, fully automatic with no driver, 2 aerial sections
Second line is currently under construction, delivery expected in 2019
>>962423
bump
Waiting at tennomiya while in a drunken haze
>>962422
The R40s will always look like something out of a dystopian nightmare to me, or something.
>>962720
it's like a moving VCR piloted by robocop
love the old signs though. so much more american than this euroshit we got today
>>962800
>"euroshit"
Are you referring to NYC Transit alone, or just in general-
i had a dream my subway train got new seats and i slid thru the seats idk
it really happened but only in my dream :(
Taking the DC Metro last week made me really wish Cincinnati had finished the subway we started in the 20s. It's so much better than the bus.
Rate my city's subway
>>962915
Some of those lines look short as fuck. The purple and yellow line look too short to be effective. Will rate 5/10 for the simple fact that a metro actually exists, which is more than most murigan cities can say.
>>962945
bump
>>962945
The map shows a metropolitan region, which has 20 cities joined together.
He can't into scale.
>>962945
>The purple and yellow line look too short to be effective
They are still expanding tho, purple line will reach the green one by 2020
LRT Ampang Line (Malaysia)
LRT Kelana Jaya Line (Malaysia)
Commuter train, Malaysia
Interurban train, Malaysia
>>962381
>those seats
Another interurban train, Malaysia
Budapest.
Another line of Budapest.
MRT Line 1 (Malaysia)
>>963359
The train itself
Monorail line (Malaysia)
Another one
>>963314
>living in nyc
You lucky bastard.
>>963359
God-tier transfer.
>>963590
Not the ideal place to live, as things can get really fucking expensive. I was considering moving back after I were done and over with college.
You'll get some amazing shots if you know where to look, which makes it kind of worthwhile.
>>963359
Any picture of the MPD?
>>962697
fuck the midosuji line
Sao Paulo monorail
>>964825
>>964825
Why does the monorail twist like that?
Train in my village near Tokyo
sometimes it really feels like Paris got too much metro lines, and the distance between most of them is basically 5 minutes of walking. Not complaining though, but for long distance (going from north to south) it gets redundant to stop at so much stops. And even with all those lines, there's still too much people in there, with a frequency being every 2-4 minutes on normal days
>>965782
Rural Nagano?
>>965800
No,Saitama.
but same type train run in Nagano.
>>965691
There's a chance the track could bend.
>>965799
>reduce subway stops to raise commercial speeds
>build loads of trams for local transport
>???
>profit!
>>965799
Paris is extremely compact. That's one of the best things about Paris. I like the Metro exactly because you can pretty much walk 10 minutes in any direction to find a station.
Is Seattle allowed in the club now?
>>963706
He's asking about the depot
ding dong do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m18Qhy1EdLk
these good old m100's are going to be replaced in august when the western extension opens.
>>966027
Are they? I though the whole driverless operation fiasco was due Siemens blowing the budget and schedule failing to automate that series, or was M200 series the sculpit?
>>965923
Yes, but our metro portion is very limited and frequency is terrible.
>>966048
>Siemens screwing up an automation contract
Details pls.
>>965923
hahahaha no
>>966153
>Details pls.
Why, on the railway gazette.
http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/urban/single-view/view/helsinki-metro-automation-called-off.html
What this doesn't tell is that for some dumb reason the west metro was built with two carset long platforms, in east they are six. That is why why the headway must be that short. The savings were pretty minuscale compared to the whole project cost. This is not something that can later be changed, if only for prestige reasons. One guy on the internet claimed that the station tunnels are essentially full lenght even in west, but used as a technical space, so were the stations be lenghtened to full lenght, metro traffic wouldn't necessarily need to be interrupted.
A carset is two units, in M100 they are individual cars, but always operated as one, in M200 the two units are walk-through and in M300 the whole four unit long train is walk-through. The different series can't be mixed and matched.
As far as I know, only two trains worth of prototype units (12 units) will be discarded when west metro extension opens. Those are the prototype trains second generation, the first set of 6 units (one train) never saw revenue service.
>>965941
Oh
Here. Kuala Lumpur MRT line 1 depot
>>966192
I meant to say, in east the platforms are three carsets, or six units.
>>966048
They are. Both M100 and M200 are going to be replaced with the new M300 trains.
>>966313
In 2020s, when the next try on automation may happen, as the transit authority has decided and I'm fairly certain that only concerns M100. I suppose the train that will replace M100 or even M200 as well will be ordered with the trains that will be needed for west metro phase 2.
Let's run the numbers:
- There are 84 M100 units, or 42 doublets, or 14 six unit long trains or 21 four unit short trains.
- There are 12 M200 permanently coupled doublets, or 4 long trains or 6 short trains.
- There will be 20 M300 short trains, four units long and permanently coupled.
When the west extension opens, long trains will no longer be operated, meaning 47 trains, or 45 if "nokkajuna" will be discarded, leaving one M100 doublet as spare.
The original 21 short trains worth of M100 was enough to operate the current network of 21.1 km, Vuosaari, the last track extension was opened in 1998 and M200 was delivered only in 2000-2001 to improve redundancy or something.
Indeed, it is now 14.30 o'clock and HSL-live shows there are 14 trains in operation on 10 minute headways on two lines. When west metro opens, the headway will be reduced to 5 minutes, or 2.5 min on shared section. This means doubling the amount of trains needed. 28 trains on the current 21.1 km.
The west metro first phase will add 13.9 km to the current 21.1 km, making the system 35.0 km total, this means 66% increase to the system lenght. Assuming the average speed of the trains remains about same in the larger system, this would give a ballpark estimation of 19 more trains to run the system, or about 47 total, give or take a few.
tl;dr: there is no way M300 alone is enough to operate the whole metro when the west extension opens.
>>966625
Oh shit, just realized I kind of made an unfortunate estimation that both lines would end up into Matinkylä, whereas another will turn back already at Tapiola, which reduces the rolling stock need by few trains, so the 45 trains at use at then would be just enough.
Still, my argument holds. 20 trains is no where enough.
Also, news. The opening of the west extension was just pushed months back. Something to do with safety equipment testing taking longer than estimeted. In other words, they don't work.
Metros in Iran
>>966708
Metro entrance
>>966710
>>966713
The train itself
>>966715
>>966717
>>966718
>>966719
The interior
>>966720
Metro station
>>966722
>>966723
Light rail train,Iran
>>966732
>>966738
X2000 reasonably fast on regular tracks (200 km/h) but amazingly comfortable. I could drink coffee standing up even in the steepest curves.
>>966708
Yes.
>>963359
And my country cries about the cost of electrifying 36 fucking km of pre-existing rail to complete the network...
>>966741
I wonder why Amtrak didn't base the Acela on the X2000
>shittiest city on the west coast of the U.S.
>everything expensive as fuck
>subway brimming with the urban underprivileged
Well, at least they're on a massive build program for the next ten years. Let's hope it get better*
*it wont
>>966896
It won't be getting better with that kind of attitude mister.
>>966896
LA is based and so is the metro
>tfw big as fuck subway system
>tfw it's so shittily laid out that I often have to do 2 or 3 transfers with no more than 3 stops travelled at a time
>tfw we have a fuckhueg subway but building one miserable tram line through the city is a big fucking deal, "hurr durr le expensive" and other nimby bullshit
great city but filed with way too many retards
>>966688
Found news in english:
http://yle.fi/uutiset/safety_issues_postpone_launch_of_metro_expansion/8949394
As a cherry on top:
>Bus connections to southern Espoo and Lauttasaari will be streamlined starting in mid-August, however, as the new routes have already been tendered and the contracts have been signed.
In other words, you have feeder buses to metro stations that have no metro in them for months maybe. Brillant.
Here is also a picture of a new short metro station and you can see the tunnel is in fact long enough for six unit train. I'm expecting the staions will be fixed within 10 years.
>>966927
Hello guy-who-compains-about-bcn-transport
Where in the fuck do you have to do 3 transfers? Even 2 is unusual, almost all of the lines cross each other at some point
>>966912
China
>>966987
2 is actually quite usual, for example everything between Sants and Zona Universitaria on line 3 (green) will often mean a changeover to lines 1 or 5, and then to lines 3, 4, 6 or 7.
From the northern part of line 4 (yellow) to get to the center it's faster to change over to line 2 (purple) at La Pau, and then to line 5, from where you can also change over to lines 6 and 7. Taking line 2 to Universitat instead and changing over there to lines 6 and 7 is actually slower than taking line 5.
Coollblanc to Paral·lel is awesome: Three different lines for one street.
Same goes for Magòria to Monumental: Three lines, one street.
Also to reach line 8 and the suburban services on that line you have to get lines 1 or 3 first. This means 2 changeovers from most lines.
Lines 2 and 4 don't even have direct changeovers to lines 6 and 7 plus the suburban services which run on the same line.
I find the layout pretty awkward overall, they should of at least made lines 2 and 5 cross over at Sagrada Familia, as was the original plan, that would be a huge improvement for people living in the northern part, Badalona and thereabout. Also line 9 would have been nice but nooooo we had to build some dumbass line into the middle of nowhere in El Prat instead of building the only useful section of the whole project.
>>967030
I've been working here as a private English teacher (autonomo) for the last year, usually making 20+ metro trips per week, and I'm not sure if I've ever had to make 2 transfers in 1 trip... Some parts of Sant Andreu and Horta and of course Zona Franca aren't that well connected but still overall it's pretty good.
If you're crossing the city (e.g. to Badalona or L'Hopitalet) it's probably quicker to make use of the Rodalies trains and then walk... I don't think most of your examples are very good and I don't think many people make those trips on a regular basis anyway, since you're mostly talking about travelling between relatively unimportant residential zones.
The whole system was built in a pretty piecemeal manner whenever Spain actually had money. Obviously it's not perfect and if you were to design a BCN metro network from scratch it would look quite different but... Don't complain about it so much. I agree that L9s is dumb and they should build more trams but it's still an extremely useful network.
>>967012
Csn you be more specific? There are like, 12 train manufacturers in China, with with equally diverse quality control, ranging from great (CSR Zhuzhou) to shit (CNR Dalian)
Bombardier Innovia ART 200 (back) and ART 300 (front), Malaysia
>>967036
>and I don't think many people make those trips on a regular basis anyway, since you're mostly talking about travelling between relatively unimportant residential zones.
Go to sants estació, line 3. The train coming from zona universitaria empties, and everyone goes to take line 5. That includes lots of people who take the tram, then change over to line 3, and then change again at sants or pl. espanya to go further downtown with lines 5 and 1. There's no point in using line 3 to get downtown since it makes a huge detour all the way down to the port.
Same goes for Sagrada Familia between the line 2 trains to/from the north, and line 5 to/from downtown. In the mornings, the trains on line 2 coming from Badalona practically empty, with a most people changing over to line 5, and viceversa.
Movement in Barcelona isn't at all as centralized as you somehow assume it to be. There's mostly mixed usage neighbourhoods with residential and commercial (and even industrial) uses, and movement doesn't really follow a clear radial pattern. The radial layout of the metro around the old town is a well known issue, which resulted from a time when the port was still a center of activity. This is why line 9 was planned as a sort of radial line, but alas, money ran out.
>>967036
also may I ask what your usual journeys are? There's certainly loads of trips you'll be able to do with ease, but my point is mostly that there's quite a few awkward bottlenecks.
Not to mention that both tram system are only working as feeders to metro lines 3 and 9sud and 1 respectively, for lack of just 3.8km of line to close the gap and have them connected to lines 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7, 9sud. It's retarded to have a feeder tram end just 1 or 2km short of some of the main subway and suburban interchanges.
>>967037
CNR Chanchun
>>966823
MiniMetro?
>>967102
Yes. I don't get why /n/ doesn't play.
Braintree Train... Braintree
>>967205
I want to grab it at some point, haven't had the spare funds for games though.
>>964825
>>965691
>Why does the monorail twist like that?
It's a long distance photo.
>pic related
>>965811
>There's a chance the track could bend.
It's a viaduct, built like every other viaduct in the world: Concrete and steel.
If the monorail track ever bend, then every single elevated structure in the world is in risk because physics stopped working.
>>966927
>great city but filed with way too many retards
Applies to every single place on the earth.
>>966910
>not investing in grade separation
purple line to santa monica when
>>967788
>tpb
Alstom NS-74's arriving in 1973 to Valparaiso, Chile, till running a lot of these in the Santiago Metro System. french made.
dont be scared mah puppy
oh glorious NS-74, you where the first metro i rode. (35 full trains still running)
Phlippines
>>968511
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=S5Oi81xqOLg
Such beautiful train
>>961903
I rode the N to Coney Island once. For a metro subway line the route goes through a lot of wooded areas and parkland.
Do any of you guys keep your metro tickets while traveling? So far, I've got a LINK ticket from Seattle (home), San Francisco BART & MUNI as well as the Paris RATP ticket.
>>965799
That's why there's the RER anon-kun
![img_5583[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/vG9uMP0.jpg "img_5583[1].jpg")
>>961757
All deep level tubes can be uncomfy is fuck...but its sooo convenient :(
If wikiped and the cources are correct "A 2000 study reported that air quality was seventy-three times worse than at street level, with a passenger breathing the same mass of particulates during a twenty-minute journey on the Northern line as when smoking a cigarette.[107][108]"could be true,its sometimes the air is definitely hazy
>>968638
>CRRC dalian
>>968651
Honestly anything is better considering the state of our MRT right now. Hell even the Ethiopian light rail system (that use fucking tram) is miles better than our decrepit "mass rail transit"
>>961748
This thread needs some Stockholm.
>>968770
>>968771
this thread needs more TINY subway
>>967788
I got it for 4$ on humble bundle a few weeks ago.
>>968779
>>968785
super tiny
>>968786
and short
>>968787
how long is the train? the bifurcation seems very small
Light metro station, Malaysia
>>968808
>>968802
hard to find any stats about the length of the cars but I would say definitely nto longer than 10 m.
>>968809
Makes me think of what Grantville station here in San Diego would look like as a major transit hub.
>>967696
>Braintree
>Brain tree
wtf where did that name come from?
>>968229
>>968228
We also have french rubber tired metros here in Mexico DF, opened just a few years earlier in 1969. Jesus fuck it's like we can't have any nice things in DF, no more trams except one light rail line, shitty BRT instead, no passenger trains, and even our metro has mostly rubber tires.
And to think that we once had a vast tram system which survived all the way into the 1960's and 70's as we only got a metro in 69, we even bought the only murrican PCC which was ever bought new outside the US and Canada. We had a gianormous trolleybus network which is now just a handful of lines (luclkily some were turned into "fast corridors", not quite brt but still gud), we had based cheapo passenger trains aaaaall over the country.
>>962423
This calms me.
>>968809
Another station
>>968875
Sound barrier installed near the apartment building
>>968876
The old and new train
>>968877
Another station
>>961748
>people unironically want to put the Chicago L underground
>>970360
>wanting to live in chicago
>>970426
>he doesn't live in the rail capital of the u.s.
I wouldn't really refer to your mundane existence elsewhere as "living" desu.
>>968856
Its easy to spot the american because he can't understand anything about transportation.
At grade stations block the terrain, creating a wall separating the entire city. Either you get tunnels or bridges to reconnect the city and anyway it makes life shittier to people.
The district right next to you is a 30 min walk because of a wall.
Underground stations are more expensive and worst to people because its literally a cave.
Elevated stations allow free use of the terrain while costing less than the options and also giving a nice feel to people (its a roof, not a cave or a tunnel).
Its like the thousands of highways you have in america cutting the cities apart, except they cost the same, carry aproximately 1000x more people and don't ruin the city.
>>970507
Where the fuck do you live that they put walls around the at grade stations/tracks in the middle of the city?
>>970507
Do understand though that elevated railways have the tradeoff of larger maintenance costs.
>>970657
>what is comprehension
Tyne and Wear Metro
3rd largest in the UK
>>970507
you are fucking retarted on so many levels.
Elevated stations aren't used in the States besides a few highway builds for one huge reason. NYC and Snow.
NYC had a huge elevated network, it was massive.. until an epic blizzard came in and froze every damn train. That was the final killer of the Elevateds. Even Chichago's ultra "if we had money lol" plans involve sinking the elevated because of spoiler alert: snow!
Notice how Moscow, the large northern city has a deep subway? Turns out snow is a non trivial concern.
Notice how say Washington Metro and Seattle's Light Rail/Metro are for example elevated (besides the historic city center parts), because they have low snow rates.
You have no knowledge of history, you railnerd slime.
Also, the issue with elevated ANYTHING is it produces a permanant undershadowing effect that encourages crime and depresses the area. See the elevated portions of the NYC subway in brooklyn and Queens for example.
The commuter centric LIRR does not have this problem as the viaducts run through woodlands and fields for their high run, and there are still issues with the homeless camping underneath them.
>>970707
It's mostly in America where it brings crime. In Asia it brings business because a station is nearby, whereas the places under highways are dead and only have basketball courts or the like. The Moscow Metro also has above ground sections, ignoring that suburban lines exist. It's quite simple, they design trains to work in snow.
>>968651
>tumblr
>>970709
That's because in Asia the trains are dead silent and they don't rain sparks and dead pigeons on the street below, if anything they provide shelter from the rain because they're made of modern materials
Walking under an elevated track in NYC is kind of unpleasant because it's literally just tar-coated pieces of wood nailed to a 120 year old wrought iron scaffolding, when a train passes there's an ear-splitting noise and everything shakes
>>968202
nearly the entire metro system is grade seperated only around 10% maybe isnt
![IMG_0446[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gcF4ZKA.jpg "IMG_0446[1].jpg")
I hate the white fluorescent they put in the new CTA trains. It's even worse when the insides of the trains are blue
>>968856
>>970507
>>970707
literally the most asinine argument
theres no universally perfect way to orient train systems. In cities like NYC, a purely underground network makes sense. In cities like Chicago, a mix of elevated and underground trains works. In warmer asian cities, purely above ground systems work.
I want to look at subways, not listen to you autists argue over nothing. What is this, a bike thread?
>>968779
>subway for dwarfs
what
>>968856
>implying we don't do this in the US
>implying elevated sections don't provide grade separation at a much cheaper cost
Pic related is on Seattle's Central Link line.
>>970461
NYC or ATL perhaps
>>968779
>next stop Hobbiton
>>971462
...my negro you know what I mean, and yeah the LIRR is all concrete so it isn't that bad, and for the shitshow that is Metro its all concrete so the elevated portions aren't bad.
>>972006
tbf Seattle is like Washington a modern subway system so it learned the lessons, while NYC, Boston and Chicago are original subway systems
>>966027
The opening got pushed back like a year
>>970707
Where did i ever said anything related to america not having elevated stations?
Somebody said metros should be built at grade or underground, and i said its wrong and explained the reasons.
If it snows in america, who the fuck cares? The guy was talking about asian countries.
>>970657
Where the fuck do you live that there is nothing stopping people to walk through the tracks and disrupting the service?
Christ, I love subway stations. I don't know if it's because I live in the south or something but dirty loud subway stations are exciting to me. I hear people complain about how crowded and unsanitary their subway commutes are and maybe it gets old after awhile, but I enjoy for no reason. I was in Berlin and Amsterdam visiting family and entering and exiting subways was my favorite part of the trip. And large european cities sure know how to build train stations.
>>968516
is you call the N to coney island wooded and parkland you need help brother.
>>973805
San Diego.
I never said California was intelligent.
The much awaited Sai Ying Pun looks quite different to that in the Microsoft Future Vision.
The Ginza Line is so shabby but any way of escaping the summer heat will do.
>>970703
more like 3rd less TINY
jesus, why is everything on that tiny island so tiny
>>974821
you live there or visitiing or just showing a pic
![Westbound_Jubilee_Line_platform_at_Waterloo[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/uDakHDH.jpg "Westbound_Jubilee_Line_platform_at_Waterloo[1].jpg")
>>961748
Does anyone know how these "safety doors" are called in English?
They're only on the london jubilee line as opposed to other london underground lines
>>974939
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platform_screen_doors
>>974939
Most places refer to them either as "Platform Screen Doors" or "Platform Edge Doors".
Anyway,
>>975401
>>975402
>>975406
>>975407
Apparently people can walk along the viaducts
>>975410
>>975414
>>975416
>>975419
>>975421
Soon™
>>975422
forgot the fucking pic
>>971465
>what is the blue line
>what is the expo line
>what is the gold line
where the fuck do you live?
I live right by the end of the LA metro red line.
>>975713
The whole system so far. Some of it is exclusive busway. I hope it gets more funding so they can turn it into subway and at-grade light rail.
>>975714
Everything planned until 2026
>>975717
Some redditor's idea of a 2040 or 2050 vision
How about some pass-through services?
(Fukuoka City subway, passing through to JR Chikuhi local line)
>>975856
Also this is a historical photo, with diesel units going from the bumfuck nowhere directly into the city centre.
>>975859
I'm pretty sure Japan of all countries wouldn't let any DMUs operate in a subway. That is the 103-1500 EMU in its original colors when the pass-through service initially happened in the 1980s when most of Chikuhi Line was electrified and the new Meinohama Station was built for the pass-through. Pic sort of related as this is the same set in later times after it was recolored into the JR Kyushu livery in 1995
Fun Fact: Initially the E17+E18 set seen was a full 6-car set, but it was modified along with 3 other sets in the late 1980s so it became a 3+3 car sets by adding control cabs in the former middle cars. However, those new "end cars" lack ATC so the separated sets need to the coupled back in order to enter the Fukuoka City subway lines.
t. JPN Wikipedia entry, and whole page is fucking long since it covered basically every variant of the 103 Series
>>974939
I've heard they're for the suicidal bankers in the City of London
![5284[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/cv6rVA5.jpg "5284[1].jpg")
>>962378
>>962381
am I autistic if I love the sounds of the old T1s make even though the Rockets are otherwise superior in every other way?
>>977576
>The T1 noise
>Not the buzz the H5 and H6 trains would make
>>975427
ARE THESE HERE YET
They've been promising the Azur trains for like 5 years
Greetings from Ekaterinburg.
>>977846
>ARE THESE HERE YET
>They've been promising the Azur trains for like 5 years
Yeah for the orange line only. I've ridden on them a couple of times.
Now the old car feel like plebeian shit.
>>977851
>>978066
we posting favorite sounds now?
>>978140
fuck me
https://youtu.be/-v-ACbCfLgw?t=99
>>978140
https://youtu.be/MMIk2dU0t_c?t=60
https://youtu.be/JEIStO1oSCA?t=8
I'm pretty sure the MTA r142a and the MBTA's newer type 8 LRVs share the same DC/AC inverters. they sound identical.
>>978140
the sound of of a Siemens S70 is really damn relaxing. Could listen to that for days.
>>975423
>>975427
Finally, new ART 300 for Translink Vancouver
Soon...
