Discussing differences railways United States and the Soviet Union with anon, engeneer -- mechanic from an Eastern European country.
I will communicate with you through Google translate.
Let's start with the fact that the whole railway has a width of 1520mm and a fully unified. Used SA3 coupler almost all rolling stock. Exceptions: industrial trains, narrow-gauge railways, underground, and new foreign EMU with Scharfenberg coupler or Buffers and chain coupler. Railroads built near between the towns of the Soviet Union, unlike the United States, where cities were built near the railroad.
Electric rolling stock is powered DC 3 kV or 25 kV AC.
Alarm in the former Soviet railway transport is very complex system of light, sound, electrical, radio, signal flags, plaques, signs. Let me remind you, in all countries, greater uniformity, allowing to connect everything into a single network. With the recent times there are new types of foster and feeders, but the system remains unchanged.
In addition, managed to save a large number of passenger routes, as almost all railway companies owned by the state and fulfill its social function.
Freight transport is very slow. 630 km per day for conventional trains and 910 kilometers per day for container in Russia (RZD). Similar indicators in other countries. This is due to the laborious and long work sorting parks. Cargo, in contrast to the United States are not whole composition, and small groups of cars that need to disengage from the hook and long trains.
Passenger trains usually run at speeds up to 140 km/h, 160 speed and up to 250 km/h for high speed trains.
Below I will lay out the main rolling stock and some of the facts.
Please, write without complex grammatical structures to facilitate translation...
Хyли вы вce тaкиe cкyчныe пидopы?
Aхyeли?!
>>907853
If so many passenger routes still survive, where would you recommend for rail tourism?
>>907861
Wherever there is a railway passenger traffic there. Up to freight locomotive old walking with a carriage in the Russian hinterland.
I advise you to ride on the train Moscow - Vladivostok and Moscow - Beijing. You can also ride between the two cities by high-speed train Russia - St. Petersburg and Moscow, there is a road along a mountain snowy Finland (St. Petersburg - Helsinki).
However, recall where there is the railway, there are also passenger trains.
>>907861
Carpathian Mountains
>>907889
Yamal
>>907889
Baical
>>907889
St.Petersburg
>>907889
Carpathian Mountains
>>907894
neat.jpg
>>908049
Tomorrow I'll send you some btfl pics with ours trains, if thread willn't die.
>>908089
If you were gone for a week the thread would still be here. Looking forward to the pics.
>>908090
Our 2ch board have mani difference with 4ch. Threads die for some days. Fucking bicycles have board /bi/.
But i want to know any technical information about your railroads.
Can you speak about this later?
2TE10y
6000hp
>>908102
Threads on /n/ last for ages with only sporadic bumping.
Here's some Sadness content: the old Wabash Railroad main-line
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TaNeam-J-g
*FUEL ECONOMY
>>908106
Most pointless use of a horn ever. Also is the entire line limited to 5 mph? Hilarious.
>>908106
>Oh this video again.
Not saying it's not a terrible railroad, but the cinematographer in this video has been dishonest by using ridiculously wide angle lense: the box cars for example look so short as if they were 20 foot "forty and eights" cars.
>>908102
He's a messy clearance diagram, which basically tells that American trains are fuck hueg.
>>908105
Bloody hell. All hail clag monster.
>>908106
If I'm not mistaken that whole line was recently rebuilt.
>>908122
I read/head that only ballast and some sleepers were replased, and the only part that was rebuild was a section that had new siding and a *runaround track added to it.
*no kicking and dropping cars in the US?
>>908130
This was old news. Apparently ND&W has been delightfully busy for this whole year fixing the roughest spots of their little railway though nothing close to full rebuild.
>>908130
Kicking cars is fine in the US.
>>908130
Kicking and dropping cars are both fine in the US. A lot of companies disallow dropping, but it's still done and some class I's allow it.
The most intense line electrificated, but there are many lines with diesel traction and a tight timetable. Two-piece freight locomotive 2TE10l built in Lugansk (1961-77.) Our engines, mainly have two cabins, because they do not require the turntable, a ring or a triangle. The locomotive in each section has a diesel generator set (10D100) capacity of 3,000 horsepower, and electric motors on each axle (12x305kWt). The weight of the locomotive (2x109.3t). The maximum tractive force of 25-30 km / h, max. speed- 100 km / h. Has a "jaw" on trucks. Two-stroke diesel locomotive distinguishes this thick white smoke at a set rpm at low speed turbine. Now the locomotive mass is only in Moldova. Built 7309 sections.
Diesel Series 2TE10 have a lot of modifications and received index "v" "u" "m" "y" and others. They differ in the type of trucks, different diesel engines, motors, different systems start-up, electrical connections and other. In fact, it is different locomotives, uniformity in design, but with different nodes and aggregates. Also, for routes with a difficult profile path were constructed three- and foursections locomotives. Many of 2TE10 series have been upgraded to replace many units and even diesel engines up to 4,000 horsepower.
Pikrelated: 2TE10u different from 2TE10L jawless carts and improved diesel.
Picrelated: difference "jaw" bogeys of 2TE10l and "non-jaw" bogeys of 2TE10m
2TE10Mk have four-stroke diesel engine with 4000 horsepower. All modifications of 2TE10 operate in many parts of post-Soviet.
3TE10M have 3 sections.
Operate Baical-Amour magistral in Siberia.
All the different series TE10 locomotives were produced more than 8,500 units (including single, double, triple and foursections).
>>908199
>>908224
Ah, fine. In here a driver must (in theory, anyway) write an incidence report from it.
What do you call the kind of drop in where the spur where the engine is supposed to evade is in opposing direction, meaning the engine must stop and back up into the direction of an oncoming carset?
>>908307
That sounds more like someone fucked up to me.
But let me get this correct.
So a locomotive is moving along a siding, and a rake of wagons comes along towards it?
Or is the locomotive pulling the wagons, uncoupled, and the locomotive runs ahead while the points are changed between the locomotive and the wagons, putting them in a different siding.
In that case, in New Zealand at least I think that's called 'Slipping'
I'll have to check my shunter's manual, because it's absolutely verboten here.
2TE10Mk
Far East
3TE10M
Baikal-Amour Magistral
EMU ER1
Crimea
Stadler EMU ESh2 for Moscow airport shuttle.
Ring test
Scherbinka
The most powerful on 3kV in the world electric locomotive.
3ES10
Siberia
Czechoslovak ChS2
Czechoslovak put in a lot of passanger locomotives to USSR.
VL8 (Vladimir Lenin) -- the old cargo locomotives operate in Ukraine, Georgia, Abchazia and Azerbaydzhan.
Crimea.
VL85
9.360 kWt
East-Siberian Railway.
>>908307
We call that a suicide drop in the US.
Do many ex-Warsaw Pact countries still use Russian gauge and rolling stock? Or is it just former parts of the Soviet Union?
>>908429
>Because you change the gauge to make a poin to the Russkies. "Fuck your system, not coming back! We west now!"
That said, all of them east of Poland. As you might have noticed, not terribly many new railroads get build these days. I wonder why is that, after all they built a whole bunch some 100 years ago with much more primitive tools and when done, material handling capacity and speed were pretty abysmal by modern standard. How come?
Rail Baltica would be a direct line from Berlin to Tallinn in standard gauge. Clearly EU is trying to nudge more of the trade from these nations into West instead if Russia, but I don't see a big difference in it. The old railway network has always been aligned to serve Russian trande so that will remain as it was, while Rail baltica will be very much a single line with some traisshipment yards connected the the national networks.
I understand it has started and the standard gauge now reaches Kaunas in Lithuania.
>>908436
I tried to research Rail Baltica but it seems like its in some sort of bureaucratical limbo.
What's happening now is that EU has built standard gauge up to Kaunas this year and the Baltic states are lazily refurbishing their existing network to allow direct Tallinn-Kaunas 160 km/h (when possible) train.
>>907853
Teбe пpямикoм нa 2ch hk /tr/ ПИДOPAХEH!!11
>>908436
>That said, all of them east of Poland. As you might have noticed, not terribly many new railroads get build these days. I wonder why is that, after all they built a whole bunch some 100 years ago with much more primitive tools and when done, material handling capacity and speed were pretty abysmal by modern standard. How come?
Freeway projects tend to get all the funding these days.
>>908456
Eбaл твoю мaмкy.
ChS7
Zaporozhie
ChS7
Crimea, Sebastopol
2ES6
West-Siberian Railroad
2TE116 - freight locomotive (1971- today).
Design speed - 100 km / h
Weight - 2x138t.
Power diesel (2x3060 ÷ 4000)
One of the modern diesel locomotives on a track 1520mm.
There are many modifications and triple-section option.
Recent modifications have rheostat brake, the new diesel engine, the new motor and modern control cabin
2TE116U
Rostov-na-Donu
>>907853
>Passenger trains usually run at speeds up to 140 km/h
im scared to go 100km/h in that rustbucket. anything over that is a suicide.
>>908591
It depends on which part of the path and a train.
Passenger locomotives ChS7, ChS8, DS3, EP2k have a design speed of 160 km/h, locomotive EP1M - 140 km/h, EP20 - 200 km/h.
Passenger cars have a standard design speed - 200, 160, 140 (older models). If the car was subjected to the ravages of (frame or bogeys have defects), their speed is reduced to 140, 120, 100 km/h. Also, the speed dependent of limitations. For example, highways - 200 km/h, most - 160/140, conventional ≤ 120 km/h. If the site runs on the slopes or the old bridge, the speed is reduced to a limited, non-equipped platforms on - 80. There are some areas restricted to 40 km/h, but the core rate is higher. Also, the speed depends on the radius of the curve section.
Passenger locomotives lacking and sometimes put freight locomotive that has poor traction, which are calculated on a lot of weight, but not the speed.
Rusty car can go at the speed if the truck frame and stand. So pine dick and teach the material part.
Pikrelated: EP1, Murmansk. Speed limit -- 120/ And it is the northern region.
>>908610
pine*suck
>>908591
Speed limits on parts of the head ways.
Pridneprovskaya Railroad.
>>908436
Rail Baltica - an ambitious project. The point is to accelerate the transportation of goods on the existing and construction of new sites, but does not mean a complete replacement of the project on track 1435mm. Lithuania has built a coincident (1520 + 1435mm) from Poland to Kaunas, Estonia refused to move to 1435 and has preserved width 1520mm. Latvia is ready for the construction of only 20%, and there is a possibility of construction of 1520 mm.
>>908620
I've understood Estonians are quite ready for 1435 mm, as long as EU pays most of it. Even if not, I'd say it depends more about Latvians backing out than them.
Rail Baltica doesn't seem to be just a meh issue for them, the news for example feature it often and positively. They have completed the surveying the route of the direct high speed option and also already reopened the old Russian gauge link to Latvia.
Head of Russian Railways said that Estonia is not going to abandon 1520. References not given, but there was no refutation. And it is possible to believe, for Estonian Railways operates and has created adequate infrastructure.>>908644
http://www.delfi.lv/biznes/transport-logistika/prezident-rossijskih-zheleznyh-dorog-rail-baltica-lishnyaya-trata-deneg.d?id=43391281
>>908436
>As you might have noticed, not terribly many new railroads get build these days. I wonder why is that, after all they built a whole bunch some 100 years ago with much more primitive tools and when done, material handling capacity and speed were pretty abysmal by modern standard. How come?
Back in the days all alternatives to the railway were really weak. Trucks were a lot less economical than they are now, and looking 100 years back they were absolutely no option for medium distances. The main reason why today there are so few railway projects is that most places that actually need it already have a raiway, and for the rest using trucks is an economically viable option. Building a railway to todays safety standard is really expansive. It was actually cheaper back then, because workers got paid insanely badly for working insane hours, all while safety regulations were totally unheard of.
>Rail Baltica would be a direct line from Berlin to Tallinn in standard gauge.
It would be better than it is now, but it is possible to just change the gauge on the cars as well. Bit of work, but building a whole new railway costs a lot, so it doesn't pay off to replace today's system. Mind you, there are alternatives after all. Planes for fast, trucks for medium-fast, existing rail for medium-slow and ships for slow freight. There just isn't enough need.
>>908650
I don't see what implies that Estonia would abandon it's meager 1520 mm network or convert to standard gauge, all that article is saying is stating the fact it wont. Also calling the viability of the project in question.
Or, is the common story of
>Russians just Russing again
I do think the project would have made more sense if it was 1520 mm all the way to Berlin, but as said - it's political.
Does this count
>>908703
>>908706
>>908703
Cooling towers releasing steam, pipe - smoke.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooling_tower
>>908819
Source the pic. It is a coal plant ( they have cooling towers just like nuclear also )
>>908833
the combination of H20 and coal smoke (NOx, SO2, particulates ) is extra dangerous
Fucked up Russia
>>908834
>coal smoke
>white
Looks like steam m8.
Offtop.
Krivoy Rog, Ukraine.
Yellow plaque appears for a few days.
Such rains in Donbas.
Picrelated: EMU EPL2t
Donetsk, Ukraine.
>>908847
Jesus fucking christ mohammed krishna
>>908834
Since the "smoke" is white they are most likely running an SO2 filter infront of it. Since that is basically injecting water with CaCO3 into the smoke, they emit loads of water through the smokestacks, making them very visible. Very little SO2 or particulate emissions left though.
>Passenger trains usually run at speeds up to 140 km/h, 160 speed and up to 250 km/h for high speed trains.
yeah, that's why Transsiberian with the length of 9,289 km takes 6 days and 4 hours to travel aka 148 hours. What's the average speed then, 62 km/h? Lol, 140 my ass.
And keep in mind that Transsiberian is not some "fancy tourist leisoure train" as in USA where transcontinental railways are no longer a common form of transport. In Russia, a trans siberian is still a backbone of passanger travels.
62 km/h, a miracle of Russian engineering.
Have my sage.
>>907856
Cyкa блять, иди нaхyй
>>908105
Choo Choo Motherfucker
>>908849
Donezk not anymore ukraine
>>909762
Average speed and top speed are two distinctively different things. For example - most HSR has top speed of ~300km/h, while average speed is hovering between 140 and 160km/h
Considering that transsib trains are also the source of much commerce to on-the line towns, those trains tend to have alot of stops. That brings down the speed significantly. 62km/h average from 120 top is quite an achievement there - if you consider amount of stops, some padding to make up lost time, crew and locomotive changes and similar problems.
Hey - Ivan. I've got a question. Several actually.
1. There are, supposedly, quad section TE10 locomotives. However searches fo 4TE10 yields only rebuilds of 3TE10 with improved engines ( not the 10D100 ) - are four section locomotives still in use?
2. Why do russian railroads use so many multi-section locos - instead of more flexible american style multiple unit setup. I heard a story, that during soviet times there was a rule that "each locomotive needs to have an engineer", so in order to reduce amount of engineers RZD simply ordered "A single locomotive with three sections, wink wink, totally not three locos"
3. I read somewhere, there were triple section 3VL85 locomotives ( triple section VL85, the same style 3VL80 are ) - are those still around?
>>911034
Strange. Where I come from, the trains with maximum speed 140 km/h make average 100 km/h on a 250 km long line with 4 stops on the route. And there are long sections where the speed drops significantly (like to 60 km/h).
So yeah, average speed and the track speed are different things but claimed 140 km/h versus 62 km/h is just such a difference, that it just screams "140 is bullshit!"
>>911322
Kind of a different thing, really. 250 vs almost 10000km are different things. You need to consider crew changes ( 15 minutes each 3-5 hours ), locomotive changes ( usually 30-40 minutes every 8-10 hours, depending how the loco rotation is organized ) and often 1-2 hour breaks in travel to allow the passengers to get out of the train, strech. Refill water and amenities in the train, unload luggage, mail and whatnot. Sure, you could run those airliner style - point to point, but that would hardly be useful for people along the line.
BTW - think that Transsib is 120/100 most of the line.
>>911509
>think that Transsib is 120/100 most of the line.
that's what I'm trying to point out, that OP's claim that "trains usually go at speeds 140 km/h" is just another "HURRR RUSSIA STRONK!" without an actual reality basis. The truth is, trains in Russia usually go much slower than that. The most famous, longest and probably also most important line in Russia has trains going mostly 100 km/h and slower.
>>909762
Trans-Siberian Railway passes through the Ural Mountains, through the Sayan and Stanovoe Highlands, Aldan Plateau. The train can go in the mountains and at a speed of 20 km / h. You did not consider stopping in major cities. They may be up to 30 minutes. So the speed is.
>>911035
Anon, 4TE10 issued in the days of the USSR. Now many of them cut to 3TE10 due to reduced turnover, but some more work. There locomotive VL80. It has versions: VL80k - silicon rectifier; VL80T - resistance brakes; VL80S - ability to work in a system of many sections; VL80R - traction control with a transformer. VL80S and R can be operated in three or four sections. We can disconnect electric loc and insert one section or two to another. There VL85. He two-section, but has a capacity of more than three sections VL80 and can work with four sections of VL85.
System "Operated of many units" invented to many connected locomotives operate a one locomotive crew.
Picrelated: 4TE10m
Tatarstan, nowdays.
ll sometimes come here.
If the trade will live, I will post about train 1520mm.
To someone interesting?
Picrelated: VL85-241.
Irkutsk
>>912473
>The train can go in the mountains and at a speed of 20 km / h.
not even heritage railways in the Alps go that slow
and Ural is no way that high or steep as the Alps
retarded question but what is kicking and dropping train cars?
>>912508
>Broken english description coming on:
Those are the acts where an engine is used to give a set of cars some velocity and then the cars are decouple from the engine while still in motion. A brakeman/trainman (whatever you call it) is needed to be on board the cars to apply handbrakes to the cars when they are at their intended position.
In kick the engine just stops and lets the cars roll, the cars may be directed to a switch or just straight track. A kick is kind of a redundant mauver, every kickmove could be done with the engine bringing the cars all the way where they are intended to.
A drop is a different case. In a "drop", the engine and the cars are approaching a switch and the endgine will speed up after decoupling, so it can clear the switch before the cars. After the engine has gone, the switch is thrown and the cars thus roll to a different track, past the engine, so this way sorting the cars or changine the engine to another end of the train can be achieved with just a single ended siding. (Rather than a passing track with a switch at oth ends.)
A "reverse drop" is a drop where the switch the engine is going to dodge the cars rolling towards it is in wrong, "reverse" direction, so the engine must first stop, the switch is thrown and the engine then back up to the direction of the oncoming carset. Needless to say, this is insanely dangerous.
Beyond that, there are some specialist moves, like poling and cabling. In these, a pole (when pushing) or a cable (when pulling), were used when an engine needed to push or pull a carset in a track parallel to it. In the bad old days these were standard procedures, now they are used mainly to recover a failed "drop" movement, where the carset left to roll on its own momentum didn't have enoug speed to clear the switch and thus left engine stranded to a siding.
I've read a term "flying shunting" used for these, but the google hitrate isn't particularly good.
>>912503
Doesn't have to be as steep as the alps to get freight trains in trouble. Their climbing ablilities are really limited. In the alps this has been solved with ridicoulous effort in keeping the grades low (bridges, tunnels, loops, looooooong detours for climbing).
If the mountains aren't as steep, this effort is not needed. Just plan a few more locomotives for trains there and don't expect them to go as fast.
>>912623
Are we still discussing the passenger express trains, right? Just to keep things straight and not mix freight trains in it.
>>912662
Doesn't really matter that much, as long as the train is heavy in total. Passenger locos would probably be a bit lighter (or less units) because the train may be lighter.
>>912503
>>912974
Freight trains normally 1520mm 4000-9000 tons, passenger 2000t.
The estimated speed of the main spans of the Russian railways 140 km / h.
Picrelated:
EP2k
Sverdlovsk
>>912978
>>907853
You can see my home town in that picture.
>>908620
As I understand, this is purely a Lithuanian move to grab some freight traffic. It's a refurbished line, on diesel! And Poland has done nothing yet and the speed limit is 80 km/h.
Any plans on the Rail Baltica proper to start constructing? I am not able to get anything credible sounding. Surely the Baltics have a better idea as they can read their agencies' releases, maybe even meeting notes in their own languages but what is available in English can only be described as "advertisement".
Numbers like as early as 2018 or as late as after 2030 crop up.
>>913020
>As I understand, this is purely a Lithuanian move to grab some freight traffic. It's a refurbished line, on diesel! And Poland has done nothing yet and the speed limit is 80 km/h
Basically yes.
The Polish part is even worse as there are several kilometres with lowered speed due to bad technical condition.
Rail Baltica in this form is totally unsuitable for international passenger traffic.
It's a useless crap funded by EU money thanks to pretty words about development etc
>>907889
>I advise you to ride on the train Moscow - Vladivostok
As a Russian I would not recommend you do that.
7-10 days in fucking train, even in comfortable coupees - please no.
>>913107
Actually, Poland is passively sabotaging the project. Lithuanians are dicks to polish minority in Latvia, this Poland decided to be dicks back - in a typical diplomatic manner.
Source: I am polish.
>>912503
small and densely populated of Alps and mountains of quater Russia
ChS7
Moscow
Two ChS4
Vinnitsya
Electric VL8.
The Soviet Union in 1946, ordered a batch of US locomotives (Little Joe), but in 1948 began the Cold War and locomotives sold in the US railways. Stalin gave the order to build a similar locomotive Novocherkassk Electric Locomotiveengeneering plant (NEVZ)
In 1953 Nevz built VL8. 3kV DC, (four Solid bogies?) like frame, 8 × 525 kW. Maximum speed - 90 km / h. Most of the locomotives are now write-off, but a large number still works in Ukraine. Created upgraded version VL8M (100km|h). It produced until 1968.
Pcrltd: VL8
Ukraine
Dnepropetrovsk
>>913387
Poland in nutshell ladies and gentlemen
>>908847
It must be nice to actually have heavy industry still.
>>913702
It's not nice when the factories are outdated and your economy is dependent on it
>>913540
How long did you go with rigid frames, btw? Was the the start for the whole articulated lovomotive thing?
(I looked up that most famous mode, but that did have bogies.)
>>913731
>How long did you go with rigid frames, btw? Was the the start for the whole articulated lovomotive thing?
>(I looked up that most famous mode, but that did have bogies.)
I do not understand, "articulated". If it is about a whole lot of "VL", these bogies only VL8. In earlier models (VL19, VL22, VL23) carriers, but welded bogies. In late - welded, but not frame.
VL8
![14527696060590[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/45ga12r.jpg "14527696060590[1].jpg")
Bump
VL10U
Cheluabinsk
>>914112
Story?
>>915582
No story, it's fake.
>>915681
Hohols
Not even once
>>913020
The Estonian ministry of Economic Affairs and Communication has announced the final plans of how the railway line will cross from Tallinn to Latvia. It's thorough with all connected projects like tunnels or bridges.
I should also mention that the long term plans is to connect Helsinki with Rail Baltica as well via an underground tunnel.
3D demonstrations of the Estonian part of Rail Baltica:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwMFv9r-ezE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkb5gCri1uQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNcj5zh8EyY
>>907853
nivt
>>917455
Does Ukraine have decent rail infrastructure? Did the Soviets electrify their lines as well?
The Soviets built the most attractive diesel and electric locomotives in Europe.
>>907889
>Moscow - Beijing
Platskartny-carriage y/n?
How many roubles is it now? I recall some price a way back which was equivalent of taking a sleeper from Helsinki to Oulu, but after that it almostd doubled.
>>924181
Soviet made - yes.
Red - originally.
Angry face - yes.
The soviet design ethics worked marvellously with industrial stuff. This includes radioteknika hifi stuff too, with its military grade circuit boards. Too bad the drivers weren't remarkable at all.
>>913014
Where's that at, anon?
I've noticed in many videos of Russian freight (cargo) trains that the rolling stock (wagons) seem to be uniformly short. For example.
<--pic related
Many North American freight cars are in the range of 50-60 feet (15.2-18.2m), with tank cars as long as 70 feet (21.3m) and auto-carrier cars as long as 89 feet (27.1m). Also it seems that the longest freight wagons in the European Union are about 76 feet (23.2m) (Transwaggon sliding-wall wagon).
The various Russian freight wagons I have seen do not seem to come anywhere close to these lengths. Have there been any efforts to experiment with longer freight wagons, or are there operational (economic?) factors governing the lengths of this equipment?
>>924329
Long cars are bad in tight turns, since you need clearance for the rigid car sitting between its trunks. That can be fixed by either making the clearance (to the sides and the other rails), making the cars less wide (that's why passenger trains, especially MUs often have so short cars), making the cars shorter so they don't span out of the rail so far or making the turns wider. The russians probably just wanted to have wagons that can run everywhere without need to adjust their infrastructure.
>>924329
There is no point to make longer cars, when the maximum axleload is just ~22 tons ( about 2/3rd of american axleloads ). Russians use some 8 axle tank cars, which are proportionally longer, but other then that, there is no need to do so.
>>925072
22 ton axle load. I would have never expected it to be that light considering Russia's track gauge. Learn something new every day :D
Since my original post, I have seen examples of the eight-axle tank cars you mentioned, as well as a couple of longer boxcars in the midst of the train in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVXW_rLC8R8
I wonder, dragging equipment detectors, or did the crew look back in a curve and spot the derailed tanker before the problem escalated?
>>928006
More to do with rail and ballast standards. The gauge difference is only small.
Soviet union was very good in standardizing thing, less so in updating the said standards.
I'd imagine, many huge embarkments like this made completely from local soil, expensive to upgrade and pose really hard limits on allowable loads.
>>928006
Truth being said - 22.5t axleload is current target goal on european railroads, russia included. Most of the world is around 20 tons.
USA, and a host of mineral carrying railroads ( mostly iron ore, bauxite and coal ) around the world, are a bit of an exception.
>>928006
man, the catenary lines seem like they make recovering cars a bitch.
Month later
>>928092
Yeah.
The main freight routes in Sweden are being upgraded to 25 tons, and the Luleå-Narvik railroad does 30.
>>928013
I'd love to spend a season exploring that line.
