>2016-1
>still not watching the Prague service tram live stream
http://slowtv.playtvak.cz/prave-ted-mazaci-tramvaj-jede-prahou-d73-/mazaci-tramvaj.aspx?c=A150908_111659_mazaci-tramvaj_plap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATfDipVGpRU
I love watching train rides.
>>901615
What kind of tram is that? MoW?
And thanks for the link.
>>901663
Tatra T3 with adjusted cabin and open deck. It serves for greasing the inner sides of tracks in curves, because after the new Škoda 15T's were delivered it was soon discovered they make terrible screeching noises in curves.
>>901615
looks like I caught a minute of it, but then it pulled into the garage and went offline. It's probably 3am over there or something.
I wanted to watch :(
>>901666
it's 18:48 right now in here, it usually runs longer than that during workdays
>>901669
it's out again :)
>>901671
thanks for the alert
i love the way the light filters like a disco effect
>>901676
it might soon get into the city centre, there are some nice views during night...let's just wait where it turns to :D schedule would be helpful
>>901677
amberlamps!
>>901680
>amberlamps
firefiters acualy
>>901681
prague looks chill as fuck
>>901681
hehe accident epic
>>901682
it's still in the suburbs, but slowly getting into the more older parts, I hope it turns right right now
>>901684
oh noes, it turned back to the east now, no river bank with nice castle views for you tonight, it seems :(
>>901687
still cooler than my city. It's young by US standards so even your suburbs seem dense to me.
whats with all the tram stops in the middle of the street? the curb is like nothing, don't people get hit by cars?
>>901688
I don't think I can remember any accident like that in the near past, althought some steps are made to rebuild the stops to at least wider platforms. Of course there are some safety standards.
but sometimes shit happens, this one is like 15 years old, from Prague
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD_VMVMu-kE
cool, we going to Žižkov right now, so there will hopefully be a bridge crossing and some nice old town views
>>901690
ok, a freak derailment. in Atlanta, all those people casually walking down the middle of the road and at the stops in the road would be getting ran over on an hourly basis.
your culture knows that people are always in the road. mine needs to learn this.
tram ride in Japan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uTXWkct5w0
oh, it's nice here
>>901615
Needs 360cam installed.
there's all these awesome bike lanes but I haven't seen any bikes on them or anywhere at all. what's up with that, Praguebro?
>>901700
I'm not from Prague actually, only from the country.
Yeah, I've noticed that too. There's a pretty loud and active cyclist movement in Prague but actually not many people that would cycle, lol. Prague is pretty hilly actually and as you can see with a decent public transportation network which is pretty cheap. It's just a tiny minority of hipsters that use bicycle. IMHO unfortunately, because Prague is overrun with cars.
>>901702
>decent public transportation network which is pretty cheap.
I'd say better than decent, by US standards.
so, I guess that makes sense. you can get everywhere on these trams, it seems.
is this service tram squirting grease all the time? I don't see any maintenance happening, just driving around
>>901704
Yeah, the greasing mechanism is supposed to be automatic, placed somewhere near the boogies. That's also the reason why it goes slower than usually in curves.
So the tram basically just rides around the city the whole day.
>>901706
such a great idea for a stream, this is great. we get to sight-see Prague all the time and nerd out to trams. fucking A.
>>901707
I'm amazed they managed to make the stream a reality. Not only because of the technological reasons, but there are also some strict laws about privacy in Czechia. I know how much pain in the ass it is to place a camera on your own property.
>>901694
>>901690
for comparison, here's a stop on our just-installed-this-year tram. over a foot off the ground, railing, big visible shelter. they're taking no chances, it's a fortress by comparison.
moving again
>>901716
yaaay
>>901715
on the other hand, this is a tram stop of MUNI metro in SF
people getting on and off directly from a street level, no visible marking on the tarmac, only a tiny road sign on the lamp post
such thing is totally unimaginable over here, there are only few surviving street level tram stops, but all with very visible road signs and street marking
It's pretty empty and quiet for a city of the size.
>>901720
everyone is sitting at home and watching the tram stream
>>901719
crazy.
SF is a lot different culture than most of the US, but still, that's bonkers.
>>901721
kek
>>901719
>>901688
The key here is that the trams have been there doing their thing for some 100 years, so the great majority of the motorists know about the street level stops and that they are not supposed to run over the poor people boarding.
The rest I suppose are startled enough about the "small train cruising around the downtown" so they stay alert around it.
>>901696
I wonder why the Japanese treat their remaining tram systems like crap?
looks like the theatre just got out
you can see the illuminated Žižkov tv tower :)
I want some drunk guy to show off to his friends and hop up into the tram and everyone laugh when he starts dancing around.
oh jeez. this must be where the US immigrant population lives
aaand now we are passing the place of this >>901690 accident
the super comfy old town part incoming
>>901740
my stream fucking froze until the bridge. i see what you mean, tho. thanks for all the guide info, too.
whoa, we in the projects now
>>901764
explain pls, what projects?
>>901766
project housing=low income, gov't subsidized housing=commieblocks
I could see 'em up over the retaining wall in the curve a while back, i know a motherfucking project when see one!
>>901767
I see, commieblocks, here we call them panel houses. I'd say that like half of Prague is of commieblocks, it's just they are mostly served by subway and buses. Trams go only to few of them (Řepy, Barrandov, Modřany, Petřiny, Kobylisy and Hloubětín we could have seen right now)
>lads havin laff
>>901770
btw, commieblocks are not gubmint subsidized or low income anymore, more like middle class private housing
>>901771
gentrification; sure, we have it over here, too, but we bulldoze the motherfuckers and build prettier-but-not-actually-higher-quality condominiums on the land.
>>901792
it's not gentrification, buddy
commieblocks were built here during socialism times for inhabitants of all classes. There were doctors and engineers living next to construction workers basically. The fact is, the high class have already moved from them but fortunately the middle class stayed (there were concerns that ghettos would happen)
>>901799
whoa, no shit? man, you learn something new every day!
>>901792
What does "condominium" actually mean, that it's managed by a cooperative?
How come the Americans see the inner city as the low quality crime ridden places, where here they are about the most wanted actually affordable apartments. Something to do with subsidized housing or the magic hand at work ("slum barons")?
How common is this cooperative thing in the states? Is it so that a single capitalist entity builts the houses and then rents the apartments or is it so that that capitalist entity then sells the apartments to investors and walks away with the profits? Usually the "capitalist entity" here is the building company that builds the house in the first place.
Around here the poor and the criminal simply live in those commie blocks that are far from everything in the middle of the forest, even behind the outer perimeters of the burb's. "You live modernly but the nature is still near" was the slogan when they were built. No it wasn't, the people who wanted to live in apartment, wanted ones from the innercity and because hardly any new buildings had been built around the center, the price and prestige of the old went up high.
>>901799
>except party members, I suspect.
How did the membership thing work, by the way? I'd imagine that a person with a prestigeous enough job (not just a doctor, because free education; head surgeon maybe) could be eligible, or was that predominantly reserved for the military?
>>901725
>I wonder why the Japanese treat their remaining tram systems like crap?
>very dense urban cores
>low density rural areas
Japan doesn't exactly have many areas where trams make sense.
>>901807
>except party members
well, there were lots of party members back then, but yeah, the top members had different standards, that's right
>How did the membership thing work, by the way? I'd imagine that a person with a prestigeous enough job could be eligible, or was that predominantly reserved for the military?
Socialism wasn't a military or "intelligency" dictatorship, but the "rule of the people", mate. When the communism was established after WWII it was the workers and low class that took over (of course with some smarter people ruling them). If you was a member of the intelligency or the rich class you had to be prepared to lower your standards really hard. You either served the party, undergo a reeducation and then you might even continue with your job, or you simply lost your job, your proffesion and was send to some factory.
Membership was basically essential if you wanted to "climb the ladder" in any company, because party ruled everything in the country. And if you wanted to get the membership you had to be loyal. That means 1) praise Lenin and Marx, 2) don't argue with leader, 3) sometimes spy on your colleagues, friends and family.
>>901815
>Socialism wasn't a military dictatorship
Well except for that one time.
>>901816
Well, yeah, few days in 1968 Czechoslovakia was ruled by the Soviet army.
But that has nothing to do with the socialism.
>>901817
Sure. I was just poking fun.
>>901803
>>What does "condominium" actually mean, that it's managed by a cooperative
completely opposite. traditionally, you would rent an apartment in a building, but the designation "condo" means you buy your apt outright just like a stand-alone house (either type usually financed by a bank, but anyway) and there's a smaller periodic fee for maintenance etc. They're usually newer with the most modern amenities and trendy colors; they're for yuppies, basically.
there is co-op housing but mostly holdovers from the hippie era or on Northern college campuses. I don't know of anything explicitly chartered co-op down south at all, but of course groups of friends will rent a whole house and split the bills, that's common. they're seldom long term, family style, permanent arrangements, tho.
>How come the Americans see the inner city as the low quality crime ridden places, where here they are about the most wanted actually affordable apartments. Something to do with subsidized housing or the magic hand at work ("slum barons")?
kinda. mostly it has to do with race:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_flight
it wasn't always so, and we're getting less racist, so the downtowns are revitalizing gradually.
as off-topic as this may seem, white flight has actually directly dictated US transportation policy for the last 60 years.
>muh individual tract home far away from darkies
>muh suburbs
>muh roads
>muh freeways
>let's build the freeways so side streets/foot traffic is blocked from the nigger neighborhoods
looks like the tram is done for the night?
good talking with you, Czechbro and others!
I'm a /bike/, btw. we're not all bad :3
>>901822
it should be back on tracks in 4 hours, I guess this thread will survive until then :o)
>>901803
>How come the Americans see the inner city as the low quality crime ridden places, where here they are about the most wanted actually affordable apartments. Something to do with subsidized housing or the magic hand at work ("slum barons")?
Inner-cities were pretty shitty in the pre-war years and the post-war policies that were created in order to 'fix' inner-cities typically made them worse (large Corbusier inspired tower blocks, measures that 'adapted' cities for cars, dismantling of inner city transit infrastructure, etc.) so they had a shitty reputation for the longest time. There's also a racial component to all this but I won't get into that just to avoid triggering the /pol/acks who roam on this board.
>How common is this cooperative thing in the states? Is it so that a single capitalist entity builts the houses and then rents the apartments or is it so that that capitalist entity then sells the apartments to investors and walks away with the profits? Usually the "capitalist entity" here is the building company that builds the house in the first place.
Renter operated cooperatives have actually become one of the more typical operation models used for new public housing projects.That being said, privately owned condominiums are typically a "build and sell" affair. Private rental unit construction is somewhat of a rarity in most places here (and it usually has to be government 'incentives' in place for them to be built).
>>901819
>completely opposite
I essentially meant that with a cooperative, I think. The google translate suggests "housing cooperative" for it.
Apartment "stock" or "option" is what we call them, and the thing is essentially operated as a joint stock company. (With special amedments in the corporate law.) You own the "stock" for the apartment, you own the partment. The company's purpose is to collect funds from stock owners to arrange maintenance.
I think there's some language barrier here.
>>901827
There's no reason living in apartment unless you own it.
Then you are paying for yourself, not for some formerly affluent pensioner's next trip into Spain.
>>901873
>>Apartment "stock" or "option" is what we call them, and the thing is essentially operated as a joint stock company. (With special amedments in the corporate law.) You own the "stock" for the apartment, you own the partment. The company's purpose is to collect funds from stock owners to arrange maintenance.
Oh. In that case we have plenty of those. We call them Homeowners' associations (HOA for short).
tram is running again, guize
Does it ever stop to actually do maintenance work?
So I'd like to hear some honest opinions on Prague from people who have never been there and watched the stream.
I just realized the tram basically has its stable daily schedule and runs only on like half of the total network in Prague. It doesn't run to Kobylisy and Ďáblice, not to Barrandov, Spořilov, Petřiny, Bílá Hora, Divoká Šárka, Podbaba, Spojovací, Karlín and Hostivař. It also avoids the right bank line thru Staroměstská in the centre.
That's sad, I hoped for some unexpected views.
>>902019
I should correct myself, it runs through Karlín but it basically avoids the whole Holešovice.
If I got it right, then the red lines in the map are avoided.
bump for trams and serious discussion
>>902022
too bad. hopefully there will be some periodic variation.
I got a couple OK screenshots, was trying to get combos of cool architecture and other trams but only got one or the other so far.
unfortunately I'm asleep when it's daylight there. maybe when the days lengthen after winter I can see more daylight
>>902108
>>902022
It does go both directions, though. I saw it go past stuff I recognized from last night the opposite way this morning.
I recently saw a young couple jogging in pace with the tram waving like they knew about the stream, too; that was fun. couldn't get a cap, tho.
Busan Metro Line 4 LRT
The train plays very dramatic music for the passengers on sections where the distance between the station is quite long.
https://youtu.be/LjE-vp3xdXw?t=2m48s
>>902121
Is there a single thing the Koreans haven't copied from the Japanese in terms of railroad operations?
>>902123
Korean high-speed rail is a licensed copy of the French system, so that's not from Japan.
>>902113
Have you screencaped the part where it runs thru the house and then there's that short but nice view of the Prague castle?
>>902131
I was going to when I did those others, which are right before that, but there was a column of cars backed-up behind the tram and the headlights were flooding the cam.
It's potentially a great shot, though.
>>902134
unfortunately it doesn't run here
http://mapy.cz/s/n03h
would be 10/10 ebin shot
>>902131
>>902134
oh, wait, I did get one. you can see the castle fairly well, but the lights annoy me.
>>902136
That's exactly the reason why Prague needs to implement a car regulatin in the very city centre. I mean, this is just ridiculous.
>>902137
yes, how dare they interfere with the screengrabs I make from a 3rd party streaming site using their tram service! don't they know I post them to the worlds largest Iranian basket-weaving website?!
outrage!
…but I'm sure it would actually benefit the actual citizens, too.
kaleidescope!
>>902219
cool
yo, check it
I glanced up and homeboy was in the tram
he works there, pretty sure this is a service area. not sure if he jumped up or came out of the cab
>>902022
getting a bit nostalgic for Prague (I was there just a few weeks ago). big shout out to tram line A - Namesti Miru represent.
i recommend anyone to go to park letna as the sun is setting - it's a view to remember.
the confusing part is, between >>902423
and>>902424
he just went over and inspected something on the track for like 2 seconds. >>902424 is him hopping BACK into the tram, pic related is him on the tram, and then the stream interrupts again (don't think it's supposed to be on at all in the service area, but I reloaded and caught a glimpse somehow, I think.)
>>902504
Spooky.
>>902425
>tram line A
that's a metro line you silly tourist
>>902427
Judging from the crowbar he (she?) holds, he is switching the switches. The switches are supposed to be automatic but sometimes they need to be manually switched. It might look like this: you put the crowbar in the long hole in the metal cover and push really hard.
>>902578
because of the grey hair, I assumed it was a walking stick, but I'm sure you're right. If he can hop down from the tram like that, he doesn't need a walking stick, and he was bent over the junction area.
Listening to the instrumental beginning of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX7TA3ezjHc
Whilst watching the tram wind around the downtown area at night. Cozy as fuck
one TV-Channel in Austria shows at night rides with Trams or Subways. It is really chill.
>>902974
any streams?
>>902995
>>902996
ok, so found something out…
>>903001
this thing is a remote. he was just backing it up with this. it's always there, but you can see the ld open to the controls in pic related
>>903002
*lid
Why don't you guys work on a train if you enjoy this shit so much
>>903432
>"hello I am here for the train driver job"
>"what's your qualification?"
>"I've watched several hours of live streams from the webcamera situated on a service tram in Prague"
almost missed them! I think this is the same couple as before>>902113
I had the damn sound off, they may have been yelling, I don't know, but they were both waving like mad.
shit, it's blurry and I couldn't cap it fast enough, the girl has stopped and you can't really see the guy anyway.
tram jam. everyone is mildly amused by the addition of the christmas tree. i like it.
>>904153
oh, nice. i was wondering what was up with that platform they added yesterday
SOMEONE WAVED AT US
THEY KNOW
>>904153
>red star on a christmas tree
my sides...
>>904215
It actually kinda looks like a red star that used to be on trams in early commie times. Recyclation in praxis.
GUYS IT'S INTERACTIVE
you can choose a color of the lights on christmas tree with this!
You choose a color from the color panel down and then you click on the place on the tree where it should light the color. And after cca 20 secs it should work! :D have fun
CRIBMAS!!
interesting that the tree forced them to clean up the glare their lens made from direct light sources. they probably hooked up the lights on the tree and realized it turned into a blob of streaking light and finally "fixed" it. now all the streetlights and car headlights don't drown out the lens anymore. personally, i liked the disco effect combined with the motion, but it sucked for taking screenshots. and i think the overall quality of the resolution is somewhat improved at night, now.
>>904225
not seeing it. link?
>>904260
on the right side but it doesn't seem to be working for me
>>904263
you won't see the color appear in the graphics of the app, just click on the color panel and then on some place in the animated tree and wait, when the lights on the tram start waves then you should see your color
guy in the van filming us
is it just me or have y'all seen a whole lot more people waving over the last few days?
>>904277
That's a Czech TV van. I guess it's that guy's job, to film things, lol.
It's live again :)
>>901615
Great post OP, keep up the good work.
>>912993
You're welcome my friend.
>>901615
>2016-1
>-1
You mean 2015+1.
Anybody watching?
>>913149
Me
>>913158
Neat.
Waiting for it start it's journey again.
>>913159
Did somebody hop off in the middle of nowhere to maintain something?
>>913160
Idk.
Maybe it's just a scheduled break.
bump
Good idea for a stream, strangely captivating for some reason.
>>917339
>>916529
>>917344
>>917339
that parking culture
>>916529
in case it wasn't obvious, this is where the tram pulls into the service area. I'm pretty sure >>903001
>>903002
is a bit further inside this area except from when it arrived thru a different entrance. or else it's an altogether different service area, but I don't think so. I thought I had discovered that they were the same but that was a few months ago, my memory is bad.
>>901615
kool
Takin it another level
Watch live stream of Prague main railway station
from what I got the microphone is situated somewhere inside the station
http://slowtv.playtvak.cz/zive-sledujte-vlaky-v-primem-prenosu-dwi-/hlavni-nadrazi.aspx
![SOB610548_nadraamazaka[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/UJ2X3HU.jpg "SOB610548_nadraamazaka[1].jpg")
Can you see our service tram on this picture? :---)
>>919813
cool! bookmarked
>>919814
the one in the foreground is the service tram? how can you tell?
~~~~~~~~~~
screenshots from this morning, I think (it was 3am my time.)
I left the tram alone for the holidays because all my screenshots had the tree in it. a few for christmas-in-Prague shots were OK, but I didn't want the tree in my otherwise normal shots.
anyway, I used to watch all the time but I don't remember any of these buildings at all. do the routes change seasonally, or maybe it was a special job? maybe I didn't see them before, but I was pretty obsessed, I knew the routes pretty well.
>>921020
2/3
3/3
>>919814
>>921020
>>921020
nah, according to the map this route has always been serviced
It should be the Letenské náměstí stop
>>921091
damn. good eye, anon. I can't believe you saw that.
>>924249
>>924250
>>919813
Also LKPR airport there. Pick your poison.
Anyone having a watch?
bumpo
good morning, Prague
