"Stay Home" is the best emo song of all time
>>66476813
that's not "Honestly"
>>66476813
that's not "The Summer Ends"
Limousine
>inb4 not emo
>>66476813
>>66476857
>>66476935
>>66477006
>I've listened to fewer than 5 emo albums yet expect people to respect my opinions pertaining to it
>>66477042
what do u think is the best emo song of all time
tfw it ends and
the one with the Wurlitzer
comes on
both of them are my favorite emo songs
>>66477109
>he thinks I'm going to give him an implicit recommendation
You're hysterical.
>>66477042
emo isn't a very prolific genre
>>66477149
It is a prolific genre, in part because of how simple it is to pull of if you aspire to be nothing but derivative, dull, and forgetful.
Don't presume that it's not dense just because people aren't constantly spoonfeeding you shit.
>>66476813
Yes.
>>66476813
The World Has Turned and Left Me Here.
>>66477252
Weezer is absolutely not emo.
I hope this post is supposed to be a joke.
>>66477222
but its like shoegaze where all the bands end up sounding like a clone of each other
>>66476813
That's not The One With The Wirlitzer
>>66476813
that's not little league
>>66477284
it has them listen on emo right on wikipedia
I think its mostly the confessional lyrics
>>66477307
>I've listened to fewer than 5 emo albums yet expect people to respect my opinions pertaining to it
Yeah, no shit. I just fucking told you that, like most genres, it's filled with bands that aspire to do nothing novel and are consequently derivative and dull. Forgetful. No one is celebrating these bands, but among the of the genre are entries with their own subtle novelties.
You know nothing about the genre. Stop spouting your ignorant fucking opinion.
>>66477368
see >>66477042
Once you've read that, stop posting.
Can't wait until the summer ends. Yes, that was a reference to AmFo. Figured it's the only album I can reference considering you people don't know anything about it beyond what you're fucking spoonfed.
emo plebs. emo plebs everywhere.
>>66477446
>no true emo fan!
easy there, you don't have to be experts in something in order to enjoy it
>>66477433
>my source is Wikipedia
My fucking god.
>confessional lyrics
So I guess MBDTF is emo too, right?
That's not what emo is, and all that fucking post served is to prove even MORE that you know nothing about this genre yet feel obligated to spout your own ignorant-ass-shit opinion on it.
>>66477489
whats wrong with wikipedia?
do you know better?
Sorry, this isn't The Brave Little Abacus - I See It Too.
>>66477481
What?
What are you inferring? I'm not saying you can't enjoy AmFo. I'm saying you shouldn't feel obligated to give an opinion on emo as a genre when you know absolutely nothing about it.
>>66477519
>what's wrong with Wikipedia
Everyone can edit it, even retards like you, so it has no credibility.
>do you know better
Yes, because I know Weezer isn't emo.
>>66477457
>he thinks there is a better emo album
>>66477586
see >>66477042
And then stop posting.
>>66477578
Wiki gets monitored so any bad edits are scrutinized.
>>66477615
>WIki gets monitored
And obviously whomever was assigned the Emo page hasn't done their homework.
Weezer is in absolutely no regard emo. It is power pop. It's not even fucking punk. Beyond the confessional lyrics, it bears absolutely NO KINSHIP with emo.
You have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
>>66477446
Pffft, get madder anon. No one's impressed that you're upset popular albums are popular. Either post an alternative or go fuck yourself.
>>66477604
why don't you name some yourself
>inb4 im not going to spoon feed you
its because you can't
I wonder why emo-elitists never share their personal favorites. Are they embarassed to share their favorite emo or some shit lmao
>>66477772
>>66477721
why don't you do some researching and find some on your own
you aren't a baby are you?
>>66477772
because if American Football is the only band you know its not even worth discussing with you
>>66477802
I do but emo is a shitty genre in general, it's not easy to find stuff worth listening to. That's why I browse threads like these but there's always toxic emofags
>>66477702
I'm not upset that popular albums are popular.
I'm upset that people who don't even fucking SKIM through the genre but simply listen to, essentially, a "greatest hits" compilation think their opinion has any weight whatsoever on the genre.
>name some yourself
Music on deaf ears.
>>66477721
See directly above.
The problem with RETARDS like you is you're not only fucking retarded, and not only aware of said retardation, but that you're complacent in that regard, and all others.
You are a false, lying faggot sloth, posturing with your copy/paste, spoonfed as fuck music taste, and think you've an opinion not worth giving. The sum of your contributions to this board present nothing novel, because all you fucking do is listen to what others tell you to, which has the effect of stagnating discourse so we've this self-perpetuating cycle of retarded, apathetic cunts like you repeating what others said several years ago, talking about the same fucking music that others listen to several years ago.
You contribute NOTHING to this website. As much as I would LOVE to recommend you something, I've no desire to fuel this self-perpetuating doom when you've shown me absolutely NOTHING indicating that you're capable and willing to find music yourself, to explore the medium in unyielding fashion.
You are a fucking cancer.
>>66477693
why are you so angry? it's only music dude
>>66477853
>it's not easy to find stuff worth listening to
This can be said of most genres.
I've only been looking into emo for about 18 months, all the while incessantly exploring other genres, and have already established a firm-footing and found plenty of rewarding releases.
You are fucking pathetic. Do not give me that bullshit excuse.
>>66477693
other emo bands cite them as an influence
if they aren't emo they are at least proto-emo
>>66477893
*and not only unaware
>>66477893
tldr
>>66477893
>being this salty over this situation
>>66477893
if you don't like our American Football thread you don't have to post in it or on /mu/ in general if it upsets you this much
>>66477942
It is true of other genres, I will give you that. I'm just not as inclined to emo, I guess
>>66477969
>other emo bands cite them as an influence
*emo bands cite them as an influence
Fixed that for you.
Also, that's not how this works. Every artist/band has NUMEROUS influences contributing to their output, several often from completely foreign, and unrelated genres. Further, simply looking at this chronologically, Weezer's release came after emo had already begun.
A few emo bands citing Weezer as influences does not make Weezer emo.
>>66477986
>I'm too stupid to read a few lines and won't even waste your time with a faux, ignorant opinion
Thank you. I appreciate your honesty.
>>66478000
You too. I appreciate your honesty. You've keep our discourse brief.
>>66478016
This isn't an American Football thread. It's a thread for discussing the best song in all of emo.
>>66477893
at least you're venting your anger instead of bottling it up, keep it up!
is unty the only black guy that listens to emo
>>66477893
Then you're not going to get very far browsing 4chan because these kind of sweeping opinions are everywhere. Telling people they're retarded isn't going to encourage them to check something else out though. Posting something else might do, but it seems your more content to be stewing in your own rage that they aren't on their own.
God-tier emo album coming through.
>>66478111
b-but animal football is the only emo band worth discussing
>>66478177
This
>>66478111
tons of credible sources cite Weezer as emo pioneers
you can't honestly dismiss all of them
>>66476813
Wrong
"Important Things (Specter Magic)" is the greatest emo song of all time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP3yYt05Wkw&list=PL698866BCF135C9BF&index=2
>>66478258
new wave emo isn't real emo
>>66477893
man you've gotta get your shit together or something that's some unhealthy rage
>>66478177
>Then you're not going to get very far browsing 4chan
I've been on this website since I was 14, so over 7 years now.
Do I expect to change everyone's mind? No. I hope, however, that within perhaps a few I'll stir some prior dormant interest in the genre and they'll start exploring it. If I'm wrong, oh well. I've long given up on this board. I'm here to, as >>66478124 pointed out, vent and kill time.
Anyone too stupid to glean the sincerity and wisdom in my posts will persist clinging to the hivemind, and I pity them.
>>66478244
>you can't honestly dismiss them
With the time and motivation, I could and would with ease, and it wouldn't be difficult, just a matter of tedium and achieving such a level of absolute fucking boredom that I'm willing to subject myself to people who've proven themselves to know nothing about the genre they consider themselves an expert in.
That's it.
Weezer's kinship with emo start and fucking end with their confessional lyrics, which neither emo NOR Weezer pioneered.
>>66477893
i can see why you'd like emo so much
kek
>>66478329
>Weezer's kinship with emo start and fucking end with their confessional lyrics,
and their punk and alt rock roots
genres aren't anything set in stone, they are kind of just ideas floating around and emo overlaps with a lot of their music
>>66478274
how is not real emo
you yourself used emo in its genre name
>>66478329
unty is that you?
it reads like your purple, self bemoaning prose
>>66476813
you're not the angry son, OP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSxJe2JWe70
>>66478408
ZING! You got me there, buckoo!
>>66478408
>their punk and alt rock roots
My Bloody Valentine has alt rock roots.
Jesus half of 90's grunge and post-grunge buttrock had punk and alt rock roots.
That statement means absolutely nothing.
>>66478474
Yes.
>this whole thread
>>66476813
>american football
>emo
>>66476813
youre righterino
All of you sensationalist motherfuckers need to calm down and listen to the right proper answer which is Seam:
https://youtu.be/uU-UwcX_IDs
>>66476813
That's not even the best song on that album.
>>66478408
>>66478505
Cont.
If you're going to label every meadering power pop+pop punk release emo then you complete defeat the purpose of genres.
The incredibly slight overlap between Weezer and emo does not warrant their inclusion in the genre. Vocals and theme alone are not enough. In regards to instrumentation, they are little alike.
i come into here to see people talking about emo, instead i just see someone constantly whining like a bitch itt gj
>>66478613
>If you're going to label every meadering power pop+pop punk release emo then you complete defeat the purpose of genres.
thats the point, you shouldn't take it so seriously or care if some people consider one band this or that
>>66478634
>your discussion of x doesn't count as discussion of x if I don't like it!
Kill yourself.
>>66478555
But...it is. It's THE midwest emo album of the late 90's.
>>66478613
I mean Pinkerton is really the only album in their disco that even REMOTELY hits emo, but most people I've seen talk about it give a sort of "honorable mention,"
>>66478661
>you shouldn't take it seriously when I'm wrong and spread my misinformation among the fertile, impressionable youths that this website consists of
Categorization matters. Genre matters. According to you, grunge with some confessional lyrics is emo, and that is absolutely fucking wrong, and I'm going to take it seriously, because I care about fact and intellectual integrity.
>>66478719
I'm glad. At least a healthy majority don't poison young intellects with misinformation.
>>66478696
>midwest emo
>emo
>>66476813
Here's my favorite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrcpzPpo8_Y
>>66478503
THIS IS THE ONLY CORRECT ANSWER
>>66476813
The outro is stay home is the song I want to fade out while I circle the drain, it's perfect in the way it ends and goes into the final track.
ITT: plebs except for OP
>>66476813
who here also really likes their EP? I think it's great
>>66478784
>have an opinion other than babby's first emo record? Well then you're a pleb!
The irony in this post is palpable.
>>66478818
its babbys first because its also the best and good place to stop
>>66478853
See >>66477604.
>>66478853
> good place to stop
American Football is fucking great, but they're definitely not the best of the genre.
There's so much more that one can get out of Emo than just AmFo.
>>66478882
>I've listened to fewer than 5 emo albums yet expect people to respect my opinions pertaining to it
I don't even know 5 and see nothing wrong with that. its music, one album doesn't have to relate to the next
>>66478503
OP here, just listened and i like
>>66478914
So you don't see the issue with not even knowing 6 albums in a genre, yet spouting opinions pertaining to it as though they've any weight.
Suppose you've a diet that consists of pizza, hamburgers, hotdogs, fried chicken, and lasagna, yet feel you've a weighty opinion on food.
You are a fucking idiot. I honestly hope you made that post with the singular intent of making me mad.
>>66478966
Kill yourself.
>>66478505
why go without your trip?
we can tell it's you. despite the rules of 4chan, it is kind of pertinent to your posts
anyways I just wanted to say, sex is overrated. romance is overrated. maybe chill out and have some levity every now again. not everything is worthy of such melodrama. Life is actually kind of banal and repetitive and absurd when you think about it
There's a reason why all the Eastern philosophies teach that attachment = pain. Maybe it might help you to detach and disengage some. Not in a melodramatic Nietzsche cynic kind of way, but in a Diogenes "this is all kind of fucking silly" kind of way
That's kind of the philosophy of 4chan, anyway
>>66479016
I enjoy the album, its as simple as that. no need to in-group it
thoughts on "I'll See You When We're Both Not So Emotional"? imo most underrated song on the album, great lyrics, instrumentation, and flow to the song. got some good goosebumps moments too
>not understanding my motivation for being alone
There was supposed to be a seperate cringe thread, wtf is this
>>66479039
Are you suggesting that I restore my trip, all the while advocating that I detach myself from this material, mortal realm?
Doesn't that seem just perhaps a tad bit contradictory?
Anyway, I agree with much of your post, yet I still desire to at least once in this lifetime feel wanted by another person, to have my company appreciated and ailments understood without contempt, malice, or pity.
I know that existence is an exercise of ultimate futility but while I exist I'd enjoy the comfort of placid recollection and fewer regrets.
I am pursuing much of what you've mentioned, though. I post on this board and others much less than I've in the past.
>>66479199
you should consider therapy that shit can really help
helped me go from a robot to a level of social interaction i'm comfortable with at least. i don't go out all the time but i have friends who are cool with the fact i need time to myself and im happy
>>66479239
How old were you when you began therapy?
>>66479329
19 and then 23. im 27 now, might go back if grad school becomes too stressful for me to manage with my current coping strategies.
>>66479346
I see.
I was 16 when I first when. It never accomplished much, but some of that is perhaps my fault. When I've a nice job and can afford it I'll probably readmit myself.
Good luck in grad school.
>>66478586
you fucking plebs listen to this shit right now or die plebber
>>66478586
>>66477446
Cool your jets, friendo.
We can all be sadboys together and be friends.
>>66477578
>>66477693
REEEEE
muh meemo waifimos.
>>66477604
>>66477802
>>66477893
Cool your jets, friendo.
>Midwest emo as a whole
>Compared 90s post-hardcore/emo
>>66477893
You need to calm down, Mr. Llama Hands and get to be friends with Coolio the Jet Plane.
hey this thread has had nothing to do with "Stay Home" for a while but I would like to say that yes, that song is dank af. the guitar riff just lays you down to cry until you go to sleep. 10/10
>>66477893
reassess your life. step out of the basement every so often.
>>66479199
>Doesn't that seem just perhaps a tad bit contradictory?
>What is the Tao Te Ching
>The best leader is he who leads least, etc.
Sometimes truth can only rest in a contradiction
>All the while advocating that I detach myself from this material, mortal realm
>What is the Middle Way
No, I didn't say that. Do you know the story of the Buddha? A rich king swamped in decadence, tries the life of an ascetic as the way to spiritual enlightenment. He finds both poles wanting.
Absolute denial is just as incorrect as absolute indulgence. You're still letting external things define you.
The Middle Way is to accept things as they are. If a someone comes into your life, good. Enjoy them while they are there. If you find a time of great feasting, feast.
But likewise, in lean times, take them with equal gratitude.
There's an old joke, that a man without a woman desperately needs pussy (you could put companionship here to be less crass)
And a man with a woman desperately wants silence.
Try to see it that way. The grass isn't greener on the other side, just a different shade with equal monotony.
Your trip doesn't seem to be a point of ego for you. Instead, it provides context in your chain of earlier posts. It connects others to you. To me this doesn't seem like a bad indulgence. It's how we're having this pleasant conversation.
Here I am, a bored student on holiday in the wasteland of flyover country, having an intellectually engaging conversation when I wouldn't otherwise.
I'm appreciating your company. You managed through your chain of posts to say something which caused me myself to think. You did something.
>>66476813
The one with the wulitzer is the best fag
>>66480034
This
>>66480010
I'm not overly familiar with eastern philosophies. I took an early interest in Buddhism while still in high school that never manifested beyond a few footnotes' worth of knowledge. That said, I've slowly resumed my interest ever since the semester finished, and I'm only more interested after reading this post.
Thank you for this alternate perspective.
>>66477550
I'll take just got back over masked dancers any day
>>66479199
also, one other point!
you seem so frustrated with people in this thread for not being as sharp as you are on when it comes to knowledge of many emo albums.
do you think, perhaps, that maybe the reason why they don't have your refinement of taste is that the surround themselves with other incorrigible idiots and social bonds that eat up their time?
That perhaps, what they'd really like at the end of the day is some peace and quiet and alone time to listen to some of their fucking back catalog?
That what you have is just as enviable to another as what they have is to you?
Just a thought!
so is this the strategy for beating unty? just be nice to him?
>>66477489
I'm sorry but I agree with the other anon and wikipedia. Early Weezer had a little bit of emo in them. Confessional lyrics, a lot of major 7th chords, and the band persona during that era was pretty emo looking.
>>66480827
yea but there's a solid argument for them not being emo too, mainly that the instrumentation doesn't evoke sadness the way the lyrics might. it was happy, poppy instrumentation contrasting with the simple, confessional lyrics that made them a sensation
>>66477893
>>>>being this edgy
god is dead
>>66477446
>IM MOAR EMO THAN YOU
>Honestly - yes that is a reference to AF (American Football not Abercrombie Fitch you spoonfed babies) Honestly, I know more about any emo song ever created than you ignorant spoonfed little bitch. Come see me when the summer ends Ill be the one with the wurlitzer. Unless you wanna stay home little bitch. You were never meant to like this band. again yes these are all references to AF.
>>66477893
>This much butthurt about a well known mediocre album
>On a Vietnamese cartoon inspired imageboard
>>66481482
kek
>>66477446
>>66481482
devious
>>66478754
BHD is some good shit.
![a0626907586_10[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7YLldTd.jpg "a0626907586_10[1].jpg")
Make way for the greatest emo album of all time
>>66483905
I think i've been forgotten-OH YEAH IVE BEEN FORGOTTEN
