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Was there a worse 5-year period of time for popular music than 1998-2002?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYnFIRc0k6E
I mean, to be fair, the Top 40 is mostly shit nowadays, but those were dark times.
kid a was made i dunno maybe
I (and many other people on /mu/) will have grown up during that time period, and I can only agree.
2011 - 2016
"le wrong generation" me all you want, I can not name a single album from these years I still listened to after 4-5 months.
It was fun :~)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAWjsVoDpm0
If you can't appreciate this fucking song get the fuck outta here
KEEP ROLLIN ROLLIN ROLLIN
>>66269491
do you mean from the beginning of 1998 to the end of 2002?
![depositphotos_11623720-Elderly-shoulder-pain[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6wf0zQr.jpg "depositphotos_11623720-Elderly-shoulder-pain[1].jpg")
Alright partner, keep on rollin' baby, you know what time it is
(throw your hands up, throw your hands up, throw your hands up)
Ladies and Gentlemen, Chocolate starfish, keep on rollin' baby
[CHORUS]
Move in, now move out
Hands up, hands down
Back up, back up
Tell me what ya gonna do now
Breathe in, now breathe out
Hands up, now hands down
Back up, back up
Tell me what ya gonna do now
Keep rollin' rollin' rollin' rollin' (what)
Keep rollin' rollin' rollin' rollin' (come on)
Keep rollin' rollin' rollin' rollin' (yeah)
Keep rollin' rollin' rollin' rollin'
[/CHORUS]
Now I know y'all be lovin this shit right here
L-I-M-P Bizkit is right here
People in the house put them hands in the air
Cause if you don't care, then we don't care
1, 2, 3 times two to the six
Jonesin' for your fix
Of that limp bizkit mix
So where the fuck you at punk
Shut the fuck up, and back the fuck up
While we fuck this track up
(CHORUS)
You wanna mess with limp bizkit (yeah)
You can't mess with limp bizkit (why)
Because we get it on(when)
Every day and every night (oh)
And this platinum thing right here (uh, huh)
Yo, we're doin it all the time (what)
So you better get some betta beats and uh, some better rhymes (doh)
We got the gang set, so don't complain yet
Twenty four seven, never begging for a rain check
Old school soldiers, blastin' out the hot shit
That rock shit, putting bounce in the mosh pit
(CHORUS)
Hey ladies, hey fellas
And the people that don't give a fuck
All the lovers, all the haters,
and all the people that call themselves players
Hot mamas, pimp daddies
And the people rollin' up in caddies
Hey rockers, hip hoppers
And everybody all around the world
(CHORUS)
(CHORUS)
>>66269711
yes
<3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYjZK_6i37M
shit went hard back then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHHT7dTmw8U
>>66269905
>Limp Bizkit was not a bad band
sk8er boi detected
Rollin is fun af
>>66269905
>Three dollar Bill
Released in 1997
it spawned the greatest album of all time though
>>66270054
>Significant Other is better than half of /mu/core too
well now you're just making shit up
>>66269992
I heard enough of them back in the day.
Fred just whines throughout the track with terrible rhymes.
The faggot with the contacts just randomly adds those shitty record scratches that every ""alternative"" band was adding at the time.
The guitar alternates between simplistic melodies and HARDCORE wall of sound choruses.
>>66269491
There are no bad time periods. Just stand out bands and albums that make it look bad.
The goat pop song my dudes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1fzJ_AYajA
>>66270093>>66269992
Oh also forgot that fred constantly has every other line sung in conjunction with backup singer fred.
>1998 to 2002
>5 years
damn millennials can't even do basic math baka
>>66269635
Kys.
Also, GKMC.
>>66269905
FRED SHUT THE FUCK UPPPPPPPPPPP
>>66270120
1998 (1)
1999 (2)
2000 (3)
2001 (4)
2002 (5)
i heard this song on the radio so much i still feel a wave of revulsion when i hear the opening riff today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc5iTNVEOAg
>>66270164
1998 to 2002 means begginning 1998 to the end of 2001
>>66270190
my favorite band!
Add me!!
http://www.last.fm/user/OneGeoffNation
That was the GOAT-era for pop music, I don't know what the fuck you were smoking then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrLequ6dUdM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1fzJ_AYajA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL7-CKirWZE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cqU1pFRqYE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oai1V7kaFBk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHuGG_FsC20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYxAiK6VnXw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYxAiK6VnXw
>>66270221
Your compatibility with OneGeoffNation is Low.
You both listen to Glassjaw, Deftones and The Strokes.
>>66270190
>Lit
>bad
Anon dislikes fun confirmed.
>>66270211
Fine, next time I make a year range I'll post it [1998,2002] so pedantic fucks like like you don't intentionally misinterpret it.
>Being 36 years old or older
>>66270271
don't you mean 35?
>>66270259
i don't even hate it it was just so overplayed on the radio i was changing the dial from one station to another and both stations were playing it because at the time we had 2 rock radio channels that played exactly the same music minutes apart, despite being completely different unrelated companies.
though in retrospect they might have both been clearchannel
>>66270271
[1998, 2002] would still exclude 2002
[1998, 2003] would be the way to go...
If you're gonna use interval notation do it right :)
>>66270207
That's literally just two guitar tracks on top of each other with some feedback in the background to make it sound like more is happening than it is.
A trick of editing, because Limp Bizkit had the best audio engineers in the industry working for them at the time.
>>66270312
>[1998, 2002] would still exclude 2002
No, no it wouldn't. You're thinking of [1998, 2002)
If you're gonna be pedantic then do it right :^)
>>66270292
Someone born December 31, 1979 would be 36 years old now.
>>66270313
Don't bands like Radiohead also heavily edit their sound like that?
Also I don't think LB heavily edited their sound on their debut.
>>66270351
I would gladly say you took the bait but sadly it wasn't bait... should I kill myself?
>>66270410
nah m8, if it was an honest mistake its cool
>>66270302
Ahh, my bad. Sorry about that anon. It was probably clear channel.
>>66270432
thx m8 u saved my loife
>>66269711
1998 was the year of The Prodigys best album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPoKiGQzbSQ
>>66270410
Nah man.
Also I thought about it and your interval notation point was kinda correct, in that the correct notation would be [1998, 2003), so neither of us was correct.
>>66269635
>Implying the greatest album of all time wasn't released in 2016
>>66270485
win win :^)
>>66270472
1998 was the year I couldn't turn on the radio without hearing this every 5 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmHDhAohJlQ
>>66270514
why is there a millipede in the music video
millipedes eat damp leaves
they're not edgy at all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfr9bhSmfXc
>>66269728
significant other was one of the first albums that I bought with my own money and I fucking loved it from front to back. I'd listen to it straight through without skipping and I'd just started playing guitar so, for some reason, wes borland was my idol. My msn name was TONGUE OF CALICAB or something stupid like that that Wes used to use.
Then Chocolate Starfish came out and I spent my own money on it again and I've never felt more betrayed in my life.
the only good song on CS is Boiler, though. I still fucking love that song.
>>66269491
That song was released in 2004 lol
>>66270514
its always staggering to know that The Prodigy was the first ever electronic group to reach super star status. The ones who made electronic mainstream
>>66269491
I legitimately cannot see what makes this worse than current pop music
Also
>listening to pop
Literally kill yourself, I mean it from the bottom of my heart
>>66270622
So have you ever checked out their debut? It's the same style as significant other but not in the pop format.
>>66270403
Radiohead is good though.
Limp Bizkit of that era is just audio engineers making it "good enough" to sell copies once it comes out.
>>66270701
actually, yeah. Loved that one when I was even younger. I love going back to it now that I can actually play guitar and watch youtube clips and shit of Wes' riffs - he wasn't amazing, but on a few tracks, he played differently than any other nu-metal guitarist was at that time.
their debut loses me near the end, though
>>66270665
There are people on /mu/ who like kanye and grimes
Let that sink in for a little
itt: kids that literally think they are better than others
>>66270746
>radiohead is good though
were
they haven't made a truly good album since Amnesiac.
I just like their style man, they had a cool style. I don't know what else to say without making myself sound like an idiot, their first two albums had a cool style that nobody else has really done.
>>66270587
holy shit this brings me so much memories
when i was 9 or 10 and this played on the radio all the time
*sobs*
>>66270514
but Prodigy is good...well it was
>>66270786
No one actually likes kanye, it's a forced meme, people liking grimes is pretty pathetic though
>>66269491
*1997-2001
2002 was a great year.
>>66270643
it wasnt? Chocolate starfish came out in 2000 and Rollin was on it
>>66270796
Actually I imagine that most of the people that hate the period of music in the OP were ~10-15 at that time (and so are and part of the reason they hate that music of that period of time (in addition to it being complete shit) is because when they think of music from that time they remember what complete faggots they were (because 99% of people are insufferable faggots when they're that old.)
if you watch interviews with bands from that time you'll realize pretty much 99% of that music was completely meth fueled
>>66269635
honestly this, especially if you listen to rock
>>66269635
le wrong generation indeed
>>66270587
wow i forgot about this song... it's actually pretty good desu
>>66269789
Godsmack, a band that tried so hard to rip off another band that they even named themselves after one of their songs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF8LMQQ0rEw
both versions of this song are great but this one's catchier and the video is awesome
>>66270962
>On September 10, 2001 (one day before the Twin Towers were destroyed in a terrorist attack), Limp Bizkit received a letter from the World Trade Center, thanking them for featuring the towers in the video.
>>66270665
i'm sorry that you don't like to have a bit of stupid fun every now and again... and there's actually a lot of really good underground pop out there. dream pop, ambient pop, and twee pop are some damn good genres
this my AOTY for 2000
this masterpiece was made
Nu-metal was a ginormous mistake.
[spoiler] I unironically love this album and their previous one though [/spoiler]
>>66271132
>"Rollin'" video received the award for Best Rock Video at the 2001 MTV Video Music Awards.
>>66269491
Yes. 2012-2016
Pop music my have been shit in 98-02, but it was at least fun.
>>66271232
slipknot is also my guilty pleasure
>>66271232
what do you like about them?
>>66269491
1998 Death: The Sound of Perseverance
1999 Opeth: Still Life
2000 System of a Down: Toxicity
2002 Immortal: Sons of Northern Darkness
2002 Nile: In Their Darkened Shrines
2002 Queens of the Stone Age: Songs for the Deaf
>>66269491
2004 to like 2009 was pretty horrible
>>66271233
MTV stopped being relevant in the mid 90s
>>66269491
what happened in 2003 that suddenly made things better?
>>66271305
They energy they put into their music, how the extra drums add to the mix, the interesting progression of songs on MFKR that appeared whole or in parts on later albums, the odd yet interesting funk metal sections of MFKR. Probably rose tinted goggles too.
>>66271432
how do you feel about that limp bizkit album that was the first one they made when wes borland returned to the band?
>>66269491
>1998-2002
>Popular Music
>White Pony
>Lateralus
>Mer de Noms
>The Fragile
I reject your claim
>>66271512
If you look at their discography objectively, Gold Cobra is probably their best after $3.
What's up with all these deleted posts?
>>66271760
what's the best song on it?
>>66271856
Title track & "Bring it Back" with "Shotgun" being good in that retarded old style.
>>66271233
They just gave the awards to anyone that would actually show up, and had a popular hit.
>>66269491
2011 - 2016
OK Computer, Soft Bulletin, AND Californication all came out in 1999. I'd hardly call that a bad record.
>>66272460
>OK Computer
>1999
you might wanna check again mate
>>66272454
2012 is unironically the best year for music ever
>>66272592
Popular music hasn't been good since the mid 2000s
Are you fucking retarded, it's way worse now. Look at how based this was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRfbPto-rHk
Do you think Meghan Trainor or whatever is popular right now could pull this off? You can't understand Nu-Metal if you weren't alive when it was around.
>>66272592
>Parallax II
>Koi no Yokan
>Skelethon
Checks out
>>66272661
the music doesn't fit what's happening at all
![09257e403c488075ec7960e132ab57f37015e34da7bdff58de79ffd8ad2854c6_1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/vkBmbJ5.jpg "09257e403c488075ec7960e132ab57f37015e34da7bdff58de79ffd8ad2854c6_1[1].jpg")
>>66272661
>You can't understand Nu-Metal if you weren't alive when it was around.
I was around for Nu-Metal and it was terrible.
It's the Coldsteel of rock music.
>>66272753
It does though, that was the hype party music back then. I fucked my first girlfriend when I was 14 to Korn's self titled album, like I said it doesn't make sense unless you were around back then. Sure it was corny, but it was edgy young people music and bitches tolerated it.
>>66272773
That came later. Those were the guys still listening to Nu-Metal in the mid to late 2000s.
>>66272661
>>66272773
How good people thought it was at the time really has no bearing on the actual quality of the music.
I blame the period on the fact that technology had advanced to the point that the presentation of music was monopolized by MTV and that the studios and radio stations had homogenized and realized they could play whatever they wanted until people liked it and they used this to print money, but the internet hadn't really changed anything up yet.
>>66270211
*beginning
>Millennials can't do basic math
>Can't spell one of the most basic words in the English language
Everyone ITT seems to be focusing on Limp Bizkit because OP post has Limp Bizkit, but I think Linkin Park was worse.
Also it wasn't just popular rock that sucked during this time.
Pop sucked, and was boy bands like NSYNC.
Rap sucked, it was just a flaccid watered down version of the rap from the mid nineties except with over the top music videos this time around, and wouldn't be good again until the mid 00s.
>>66273074
It does though, you have to judge music objectively as an entity in the time that it was created. You can't take future developments into consideration when judging music in the past.
Without Limp Bizkit (and the Nu Metal genre in General) Death Grips and the modern lineup of Swans couldn't have happened. Those are just two examples. I think the Nu-Metal revival hasn't even started yet.
>>66272529
It came out in 97?
Huh.
>>66273317
>you have to judge music objectively as an entity in the time that it was created.
Then if we're comparing popular music it's all equal because it's all popular at the time.
This seems like you're just judging music as it was when you first heard it, and liking it more because you lost your virginity to it.
>>66269491
The entire 21st century has been non stop terrible.for music
>>66273474
Yes, but which parts are the most shit?
>>66273417
Not just the popularity, but the stylistic, technological and cultural developments that played a role in the creation of the music in its time. I think since 2001 we've lived with pop-music that has been consciously not confrontational , it's the post 9-11 distraction. We consume media that has no objective other than distraction from real world problems.
Musically speaking many bands like KoRn were taking big risks using dark social themes, harmonic dissonance and strange augmented chords to create a dark atmosphere. In the post 9-11 world anything that implied negativity is looked down upon. I think that's just starting to change with Kendrick Lamar, Beyonce etc.. releasing racially charged music, it's just unfortunate that it's only blacks that are allowed to publicly express angst these days.
In the 90s it was OK to be white and frustrated with society. Not anymore, as a white person you're the oppressor and should feel guilty.
>>66270502
>le new album is also goat album meme
fuck off bandwagonfag
>>66273611
I bet you think Frankie Sinatra wasn't a top tier song too
>>66271341
Saosin
>>66273517
Now. I honestly have a hard time imagining how pop music can get more base than it is right now.
>>66273560
>In the 90s it was OK to be white and frustrated with society. Not anymore, as a white person you're the oppressor and should feel guilty.
I think it was more that in the time that this music was getting made it really really sucked to be a gen X wageslave somewhere (the people making this music were all gen X), because life was incredibly boring if you didn't have money and the boomers had an even stronger stranglehold on jobs. Also crime had still not really fallen significantly.
Nowadays being in that demographic is not nearly as shitty, both because of slightly increased purchasing power for people in that demographic and because of the internet, so people have less to complain about. Plenty of people still complain anyway.
t. babby born in 1988 that was not a gen X wageslave so going off of what people told me
>>66271232
The first two Linkin Park albums were GOAT af
what are you talking about?
>>66269635
About to post good job
>>66273934
wew lad... just cause that's his best album don't mean it's good
>>66274066
10/10
Tbqh
>>66269491
>chocolate starfish
what the FUCK did he mean by this?
>>66270919
Stop being such a bitch and accept that stoner rock is actually good, then you will see how rock isn't dead yet.
Also
>Boris
>Melt-Banana
>Tame Impala
>>66273934
Look I was in 8th grade and thought this album was the shit. Friend played it as a joke five years later, objectively awful, shit hard rock riffs, poor rapping, and he says nigga in one song 1/10 cause Eminem has an okay feature
>>66274289
Serious what's some stoner rock. I liked Like Clockwork, but I haven't dug for more releases from this period
>>66274274
>Chocolate Starfish and the Hot Dog Flavored Water
Buttholes and semen lol
>>66274349
Yawning Man
Fatso Jetson
Ten East
Colour Haze
Causa Sui (who released AOTYSF, pic related)
Earthlings?
Brant Bjork
Dead Meadow
My Sleeping Karma
Bardo Pond
Earthless
And many others that are "pretty good" as well.
I also didn't even mention any stoner metal, just rock. There's plenty of good stoner metal right now.
>>66274390
oh shit i didnt here the second part that actually make sense
what a great lyricist
1998-2002 was pretty good, Californication, Limp Bizkit, Marilyn Manson, Sum 41, Blink 182 etc. Music we have now is shit
>>66274507
they were all just really funny in retrospect. i wouldnt call them good. some catchy songs i guess.
>>66274541
By no means do they have the depth of The Beatles or something, but if you take them for just catchy songs then they're all pretty good.
>>66274349
Wait, are you implying that ...Like Clockwork is stoner rock???
my dog actually dated fred durst and his daughter in dogschool. when i asked him how it felt to be in this telationship he just smiled snd walked away
>>66274796
Legitimately their best record
>>66269635
yeezus, everything by death grips
>>66269698
>>66269728
*Undertaker rides out on a Harley*
>>66273848
good album, I have it on vinyl
>>66273815
i really can't stand linkin park now, but i remember being a freshman when hybrid theory came out, downloading it on napster (probably took a week to do that) and going to buy their shirt at hot topic. for some kid living in a town of 2500 in a flyover state, that album really did seem mindblowing, if only because i'd never heard a turntable being used in a rock context like that
at any rate, 1987-1991 is objectively the worst five year period
>>66271308
is this a joke?
>>66271308
>not mentioning ITAOTS
WITH ARMS WIDE OPENNNNNN
>>66271308
He said POPULAR music, not your niche metal.
>>66274308
>go to a friend's 30th birthday party a couple of months ago
>completely shithoused
>decide to take our friend's truck into town to get some cigarettes
>heading back to the house
>"only god knows why" comes on
>haven't heard this song in like 16 years
>friend turns the volume all the way up
>start singing all the words together
>by the end of the song we are screaming the outro at the top of our lungs
>tfw kid rock unironically gave me the only genuine moment of friendship i've shared with another person in several years
that song will always be good.
you'd never see me doing that sober around anyone else though. if anyone else i knew got wind of it i'd be in deep shit because it would expose me as the hypocritical contrarian piece of shit that i am.
>>66269491
There was loads of good music coming from those five years
>>66270826
>What is In rainbows?
corporate rock in that period had been milking the post-Nirvana grunge boom for years, exploring every potential avenue for making every niche genre of rock under the sun into a radio-ready hit single - and they had just started to exhaust it.
mainstream radio rock was beginning to split into two directions: way heavier with metal influences (SOAD, Deftones), or going pop punk (Blink 182, Sum 41).
the third direction was "rap rock" like Linkin Park and Limp Bizkit, but even Radiohead outlasted than that deadend genre fusion
Nickelback basically took over the emotive rock style of Pearl Jam, dulling its subject matter into the most generic strain yet. and they were still one of the most successful rock bands of the Oughts. that speaks volumes about what happened to rock during that time: anything valuable wasn't going to be heard on the radio anymore
but even with all of that darkness, there are still way more recognizable hits from that era than the last five years. I still can't hear what's so catchy about the current strain of Nordic pop that Max Martin and his crew have been putting together - no matter how many people latch on, I can't remember a single song
that's not how pop's supposed to work: it's supposed to saturate the culture, so even if you're as tuned out of the mainstream like I am, you can't avoid not just hearing it, but remembering it for years afterward. and that's just not happening to me.
>>66273656
That song was a banger
>>66275560
>that's not how pop's supposed to work: it's supposed to saturate the culture, so even if you're as tuned out of the mainstream like I am, you can't avoid not just hearing it, but remembering it for years afterward. and that's just not happening to me.
It may just be that you're getting older. The further you get from the target demographic the less penetration into your circle the music gets. Earlier even if you don't listen to music your peers might put it on, etc.
>>66275560
This is a good post.
You could also add that, because of this over-saturation of alt-rock, nu-metal, and emo, guitar music in general became seen as lame as fuck, allowing Hip Hop to gain dominance.
>>66273848
Still enjoy this album.
>>66275773
Different anon.
I'm a 20 year old in uni. They always play contemporary pop in the cafeterias and dorm rooms. He is right. It's so sterile and inoffensive, you could swear it's made by robots.
>>66273848
At times I listen to this album in the current year
>>66275560
to be fair, nickelback is sort of the scapegoat for all of that but they aren't really to blame. the telecommunications act of 1996 destroyed american radio. in a way it's kind of the opposite of what you said, because that type of music is valuable, just not culturally.
but it's sort of a chicken or the egg question: did watered down, bland modern rock become ubiquitous because people liked it, or did people like it because radio made it ubiquitous?
i hear you on max martin and the rest of the scandinavians who have infiltrated pop. it all sounds the same to me. i can't tell if it's because i'm getting old or if it all really has turned into a monogenre.
i agree with you with regards to today's pop music not having any songs that permeate the culture like they used to. but every once in a while we get one. i remember going to london in 2014 and hearing "happy" in piccadilly circus, and that was the first "can't avoid not hearing it" moment i'd had in a long while. every other song seems like it gets put through the rounds and is quickly disposed of.
>>66275056
>>66275815
>>66275851
Good taste lads
Three Cheers was decent as well
>>66275773
I see what you're saying, but I still feel like there's a lot less competition today than in the late 90's when he was making hits for Britney Spears and Backstreet Boys.
even the Bon Jovi hit "It's My Life" feels way stronger than anything he's made in the last 15 years, which flies in the face of the fact that his star has been rising that entire period.
>>66275794
I don't know if that's true, even though I agree that there was oversaturation. it was like the big music companies had discovered that "the kids want whatever Nirvana does" - which really was the Pixies' formula of quieter verses, explosive choruses. they milked that thing for all it was worth, but I still think nothing has come along since as a general formula that has gotten more influential. it probably still works.
but there was still an amazing vitality in rap music around the same time, as well as R&B, country, and plain pop music. I think there were these vital niche genres and everyone had their thing they listened to. and it kind of came apart a little more than a decade ago.
>>66275937
I think it's hilarious you mention regulations, because Canadian radio stations were mandated by Canadian Content regulations (Cancon) to play a significant percentage of home-grown talent. so when "How You Remind Me" went mega literally everywhere simultaneously, it was played to death up hear (and the radio/TV stations were fulfilling their obligations to play Canadian music).
I think almost all the way back to the 50's, radio rock music has been the tip of the iceberg, with the most vital, most powerful artists nearly always staying underexposed. that said, the situation has gotten particularly dire in the last decade. rock as a form of pop music seems to be creatively dead. it has splintered and resplintered stylistically so many times by now that it's hard to recreate the mass audience as it existed circa 2000.
>or if it all really has turned into a monogenre.
it has - the same people make it.
>>66276249
>but there was still an amazing vitality in rap music around the same time, as well as R&B, country, and plain pop music. I think there were these vital niche genres and everyone had their thing they listened to. and it kind of came apart a little more than a decade ago.
this is a great point. i know not many /mu/tants listen to popular country (other than that ridiculous aldean meme), but that format is a prime example of how much the lines have become blurred.
the zac brown band, who were perceived as this rootsy, homegrown, somewhat traditional country act, released "beautiful drug" not too long ago, and it sounds exactly like something you'd hear on top 40. it's nothing more than a four on the floor electronic dance song.
then you have artists like sam hunt who are bringing rap into popular country, or thomas rhett's "vacation," which had the aid of a scandinavian producer and sounds as such. not trying to single the scandinavians out, but they are everywhere now.
i'm not saying you can't put rap and country together, or that they shouldn't be allowed to create this sort of music. but it's really bizarre how radio stations can play these songs on what is supposed to be a country format and tell themselves it in any way resembles country music. so now we will have a generation who grow up listening to this and believe that's what country is, when they are essentially listening to something that could be heard on the top 40 station and no one would be the wiser. they are deluding themselves, and it's really odd because country, moreso than most genres, has always carried with it a sense of musical conservatism.
>>66276587
well, the lines between country and pure pop music have been blurring for decades now. Garth Brooks wasn't exactly "pure country" - and how many in the 90s could claim they were? unless you're Appalachian bluegrass musicians who've been playing this kind of music for generations, then it's always authenticity by degrees.
but rap country? that really doesn't sound like it would work. country truly is the last bastion of traditional songwriting, come what may. if they give that up, what do they have on everyone else - occasional pedal steel? specific cultural references? I think it's an awkward fit, to say the least...
but even the rap guys say what gets played on the radio isn't the "true hip hop" - and they may be right. there's always this core of listeners faithful to their genres, who go out of their way to inform people what the "real stuff" is. that's really all people can do when big music companies try to foist unacceptable changes on their audience. or else they'll just tune out.
>>66269635
ariel pink, of montreal, destroyer, deerhunter, panda bear ... all released god tier albums during one or multiple of these years...
Sure it was the last era of white males presence in the music scene via '' indie '... but its seems like you are wrong
>>66269728
Uh........
BUBBLE BUTT BUBBLE BUTT BUBBLE BUTT BUBBLE BUTT BUBBLE BUTT BUBBLE BUTT BUBBLE BUTT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR-NXv5Tma0&oref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DhR-NXv5Tma0&has_verified=1
>>66277300
The bubble butt bubble bubble butt etc, is basically part of the beat of the song, and the song is otherwise constructed well. It's also partly meant to be humorous, judging from the video. Humor singles have been around since forever (and if we want to compare humor singles about butts -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJfnOdVeHxg)
Rollin' reads like it was written 15 minutes before recording because Fred Durst and Interscope need more money and you have to have some words to put in the song and they have to rhyme because you technically need songs on an album for it to be bought by the morons that assumed that you still gave a shit beyond just cashing the next paycheck.
Bubble Butt is giving you a wink and a nod, Rollin' is played completely straight and the message of the song is "give me your money, fuckwit."
>>66277447
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJfnOdVeHxg
>Does he mean that he'd be lucky to get a disease or that if he gets lucky by having sex,he'll get a disease? Deep songs like this make you think
>>66270643
Isn't this from the video where they are on top of one of the World Trade towers?
You're telling me that was made in 2004? That was a brave and technically impressive move by Limp Bizkit.
>>66277217
>it was the last era of white males presence in the music scene
are you retarded?
>>66273192
Agreed, but poptimists today will hail this as a GOAT era for teen pop. Blink-182 looks a lot better when compared with everything else going on. Strange that the music was so awful amidst the peace and prosperity.
>>66274289
>>66270919
I think the last half-decade has been good for rap/hip-hop, R&B, and pop, but there hasn't been much good rock in the mainstream. That may be starting to change.
>>66269635
There have been plenty of great albums released in these years
>>66275250
Yeah pretty sparse other than some good late period Prince, U2, and R.E.M. Today this period gets hailed as GOAT by poptimists (see 1989).
>>66275773
>>66275837
I don't know, I think pop has been better in the past 2 years or so than any in recent memory. I'll take Drake, The Weekend, Taylor Swift, Rihanna, Future, and Beyoncé over what they were playing during 1998-2002 any day. Even the latest Bieber singles were really good.
>>66280140
I think he's right that popular music has never been less masculine, obviously that statement is way over the top.
>>66269491
I've always thought Limp Bizkit's success explains a lot about the rise of Bush and the Iraq War. That video sounds and looks like his America going to war.
>>66280859
>early 2000s
>peace and prosperity
>>66281120
1997-2001
>>66270852
If you don't like Kanye you're a nerd and probably got/get bullied in school
>>66276017
>good taste
fuck off fag, you ruin this board
