I don't know what it is but rap just doesn't feel new to me anymore, this probably has to do with the fact that it hasn't been a new thing for like 20 years.
the fact that I have been listening to it since my dad bought College Dropout the week it came out probably also plays a role. but it just feels as direction less to me as alternative "rock" and "folk"
quite frankly vintage music sounds more fresh to me than hip hop and electronic music does.
What ya think anoons?
>>66260132
Nope it'll still be the most popular genre for at least the next 5 years
I think you're retarded
kys
>>66260132
Nigga of course CD doesn't sound fresh it's almost a decade and a half old
In other words >>66260163
>>66260161
>at least the next 5 years
that's not a long time when you get down to it.
considering it's been around for 30
>>66260132
There's always someone pushing the boundaries; popular or ug. You just need to find the good shit
>>66260132
lol no
Rap is the most human genre because it's based almost entirely in language and lyricism. Everyone can understand a good rap song.
>>66260161
and what would replace it? EDM? Doesn't seem likely
>>66260132
I didn't think this until I heard pic related and TLOP, but now I have to agree with you wholeheartedly.
There are too many white rappers coming out. Soon successful white rappers will out number black ones and black people will invent a new type of music.
The same as what happened with disco, jazz and rock n roll.
>>66260223
point me to some recs boyo. I need to hear them
>>66260273
I can't tell if this is just bait but for me honestly it was TPaB
good album, but a lot of it just sounded like revival old school and soul music.
>>66260196
I'd say 15 more years max
>>66260256
I could see that honestly. EDM is getting more and more popular every year
>>66260256
Trap EDM is already a thing, and it's insanely popular. Not to mention hacks like yung lean mixing trap with vaporwave. Rap is breing bred out of hip hop.
I just assumed EDM was already the most popular, or at the very least, well on its way to becoming it
>>66260295
yeah but what new style of music is left to be made? Everything's been done already
Haha yep, guess all the hood rats will start listening to avant-bluegrass and industrial ambient records.
>>66260321
name one lean song that sound like vaporwave at all, real vaporwave not bandcamp memes
>>66260337
this shit is never predictable
and people said this since before we could record music so I have no clue
>>66260337
That's what stupid uncreative people say
Some sort of Funk will probably replace it,
>>66260395
Analog instruments won't be making any come back until we see computers become way more integrated into our lives.
>>66260385
Right so you have the answer smart guy?
Hopefully it's going out because it fucking sucks
>>66260518
stop shitposting about how much you hate rap and go back to /pol/
I'll even help you
>>/pol/
yeah same. and used to be a huge fan but now everything is average
>>66260539
shit
>>66260558
why do you think that
>>66260321
>Not to mention hacks like yung lean mixing trap with vaporwave.
I dont even know where to start with this one, fuck sake, how delusional/uninformed can you be
Rap will never die
>>66260539
>>66260616
hes one of those "MUH REAL HIP-HOP" people who hasn't realized today's hip-hop is pretty much a whole different genre from the old shit
>>66260558
Agreed. I still try to listen to releases from my favorite artists but I only end up keeping about a fourth of their new projects in my library
Also I could just be burnt out on hiphop who knows
>>66260637
yeh, it'll be different from rock, funk, jazz, and blues.
>>66260637
rock will never die -- everyone, 1969
>>66260670
yup, hip-hop goes through different sounds/styles constantly so even if the trap thing goes away (which it wont anytime soon) it will evolve to something else, history has proven this
>>66260669
This isn't true of just rap for me, almost all genres. It is the exception if an artist's work doesn't undergo gradual degradation after their first few releases imo
>>66260723
rock went through: rockibilly, surf, psycidelic, hard rock, heavy metal, punk, cancer metal, alternative,grunge and Br(sh)it pop.and now it's dead
>>66260670
all of those are as alive as ever
when people stop preforming and listening to them then call me
>>66260766
notice anything? most of those are complete shit
>>66260670
>implying rock isn't alive through psychedelic and stoner
>>66260877
b8 confirmed
>>66260321
>yung lean mixing trap with vaporwave
Tell me this is bait
>>66260903
>it isn't, indie crap isn't music much less rock
>>66260337
The blacks will find something
My friend who raps and I have talked about this a lot recently. Gangster rap is going to move back to a niche thing, while other forms of rap move into its place and other genres slide up and fill the gap in popular radio time.
Die isn't quite the right word, but you won't recognize the scene ten years from now.
>>66260935
you're officially retarded
>>66260963
hopefully the drama will be less of a thing by then
>>66260958
Honestly all real innovation in popular music is due to blacks
>>66260963
I don't see gangster rap making a comeback until trap dies down a little bit. It's dominating the entire genre right now
everyone always overreacts to everything new or different
Rap is at the "late majority" phase right now, but soon the "laggards" will all have given in and listened to it
When the plebeian masses have all adopted something, the "innovators" know it's time to move the fuck on. Rap is absolutely on its way out.
>>66260903
I haven't heard one worthwhile album form any contemporary psych rock band. It's all just a lame nostalgia trend.
>>66260935
"I've never heard of stoner metal"
>>66261017
nigga trap is just gangster rap with rattling hi hats
>>66261058
>Fandangler
>>66261036
breddy much dis shit
>>66261036
the internet has changed the game anon
even now theres plenty of weird rap shit on soundcloud for hipsters, heard of xxxtentacion for example? shit like that
>>66261190
Yes
>>66261050
Of the top of my head
King gizzard and the wizard lizard, all them witches, colour haze, bad liquor pond. tame impala on the more poppy side.
As for stoner rock, samsara blues experiment, earthless, naam, truckfighters, naxatras
>>66261163
the majority of the population can't see a difference in genre/style between xxxtentacion and chief keef or ugly mane or whoever else
it's just bleep bloops with black people talking fast over them
Nobody gets 100k + listens by appealing only to hipsters
>>66261231
>nostalgia
I'm not 60 so no
>>66261163
>internet has changed the game
not even remotely. I know because they said
>TV has changed the game
and before that
>radio has changed the game
and before that
>international culture via newspaper has changed the game
and before that
>a whole Euro culture with free communication has changed the game
and before that
>literacy has changed the game
the game never changes
>>66260132
Its one of the few music genres thats still evolving at a noticeable and accessible rate
next thing you'll be telling us that electronic music will disappear in the next 10 years
>>66260226
>Everyone can understand a good rap song.
yes my white mom really gets hip hop
>>66261323
There's an entire genre of music based on the internet basically
What the fuck you talking about?
>>66260337
That sounds like a challenge
uzi
yachty
carti
21
madeintyo
fauni
uno
etc
>>66261360
and it's south of fuckallsberg nowhereland
>>66261323
The game gets faster, which is a sort of change. Before all these advances in technology, it took centuries for trends to rise and fall. Then generations. Then lifetimes. Now with the internet it only takes a few years.
We live in an age of extremes
>>66261394
>uzi
>yachty
>carti
>21
>madeintyo
>fauni
>uno
>tolerable
>>66261400
Not him but I think he's talking about vaporwave
>>66261360
>there's an entire genre of music based on the internet
Unless "the internet" is a new instrument I've never heard of then this is you talking out of your ass. The platform for distribution and sharing has changed and we now have cool new instruments as an advent of the last 50 years, but the actual music hasn't changed remotely.
>>66261349
mine does
Rap music is based on stealing real music that is actually good. It's either a ripoff of a song that is way superior or it's some simple as fuck beat that has no creativity or variation. And why are the MCs the one that are the face of the music they rap on? The people actually producing the tracks should be the ones getting the credit which is another reason the genre is so lame.
>>66261452
>and it's south of fuckallsberg nowhereland
>>66261442
Leave Uzi alone
He's a cutey and the only one with talent in that list
Bawitdaba, da bang, da dang diggy diggy, diggy, said the boogie, said up jump the boogie
My name is kid
Kid rock!
Bawitdaba da bang da bang diggy diggy diggy
Shake the boogie said up jump the boogie
Bawitdaba da bang da bang diggy diggy diggy
Shake the boogie said up jump the boogie
Bawitdaba da bang da bang diggy diggy diggy
Shake the boogie said up jump the boogie
Bawitdaba da bang da bang diggy diggy diggy
Shake the boogie said up jump the boogie
And this is for the questions that don't have an answer
The midnight glances
And the topless dancers
The can of freaks
Cars packed with speakers
The g's with the forty's
And the chicks with beepers
The northern lights
And the southern comfort
And it don't even matter if your veins are punctured
All the crackheads, the critics, the cities
And all my heroes at the methodone clinics
All you bastards at the i.r.s.
For the crooked cops and the cluttered desks
For the shots of jack and the caps of meth
Half pints of love and a fifth of stress
All the hookers that are tricking out in hollywood
And for my hoods of the world misunderstood
I said it's all good and it's all in fun
Now get in the pit and try to love someone!
Bawitdaba da bang da bang diggy diggy diggy
Shake the boogie said up jump the boogie
Bawitdaba da bang da bang diggy diggy diggy
Shake the boogie said up jump the boogie
Bawitdaba da bang da bang diggy diggy diggy
Shake the boogie said up jump the boogie
Bawitdaba da bang da bang diggy diggy diggy
Shake the boogie said up jump the boogie
For the time bombs clicking and the heads they hang
All the gangs gettin' money and the heads they bang - bang
Wild mustangs
The porno flicks
All my homies in the county in cell block six
The grits when there ain't enough eggs to cook
And to d.b. cooper and the money he took
You can look for answers but that ain't fun
Now get in the pit and try to love someone!
>>66261442
get with the times
>>66261463
wew
Recomend me some EDM trap, I'm sick hearing untalented hacks like future.
>>66261460
Wut
>>66261463
all reasonably sane forms of art are equally valid you mong. Most modern singers don't write their own scores either, do you hate them as well?
>>66261463
>The people actually producing the tracks should be the ones getting the credit
A lot of the time they are, DJ Shadow for instance is almost always the main nae on the tracks he produces
>>66261492
we used to bang this jawn out in 10th grade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KflTpKReKE
>>66261251
xxxtentacion sounds more like death grips then chief keef big bro, dude has literally made shit with barely any genre attached to it
>Nobody gets 100k + listens by appealing only to hipsters
wrong, plenty of underground rappers on soundcloud who have a completely alienating sounds get large numbers of streams
>>66261516
That's because he's talented enough not to need an MC for most of his tracks because he knows how to make music sound good instrumentally.
>>66261486
>get with the times
it sounds the same as shit from the 2000s
>>66261442
>dissing uzi, yachty, carti and 21
if xxl cypher had carti instead of kodak it wouldve been legendary, kodak is shit
>>66261604
all of them are shit actually
>>66261509
>implying I listen to modern singers
Nothing but garbage
>>66261602
>it sounds the same as shit from the 2000s
this is like those old ladies who cant tell the difference between hip-hop and pop music, their brain cant comprehend it
>>66261632
as with every new wave of music, the newer generation gets to decide that, the majority has spoken, sorry grandpa, go listen to your shitty dust with 2005 beats
>>66261662
there flat out is no difference, you are just a another fantano type who looks way too much into tiny details
>>66261706
so hip-hop hasnt changed? from the instrumentals themselves to vocal effects and flows? if you truly believe that you're either listening to drake and kendrick lamar or you're just delusional
>>66261741
>vocal effects and flows
don't matter
> the instrumentals
808s, minimal keyboards, minimal melody in general. sounds all the same to me
>>66260132
It's stagnated, what can you even rap about other than your life story, guns, money and bitches? Why isn't freestyle rap in the mainstream, it's the best way to show skill, flow and forces them to push themselves. The genre would be more fresh if they recorded live albums with no lyrics.
>>66261784
>>vocal effects and flows
>don't matter
straight delusional
first of all vocal effects make all the difference, Rodeo album is a pretty good example
second, kids only care about beat and flow nowadays not lyrics, so yes they do matter, alot
basically you can't admit hip-hop has changed and even when confronted with literal changes you just go "oh but not those ones i dont care about those" well guess what, most people now do so fuck off
>>66261706
Hip-hop and pop have changed significantly in the past two decades. It's pretty easy to see if you're not an idiot
Here is a popular hip-hop song from 1989 -
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vY7S6iwwlQ
Here is a popular hip-hop song from 2001 -
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYxAiK6VnXw
And here's a hip-hop song on the top 50 right now -
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GL9JoH4Sws
If you can't see the difference, you're a retard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjZq3xypvuk
best song made in the past 3 years
>>66261851
No wrong
saying these new hacks are any different from previous decade ones is the same mentality that indie kids get.
their music is just a more minimalistic version of the shit radio head did but they act like it's a new thing
>>66261888
cherry picked examples
>>66261921
So, your opinion is that all music in a genre that you don't like is the same? Got it
>>66261888
and then theres Chief keef, young thug, shit like that, how can you possibly listen to that and say it isnt different from what was being made a few years before
people tend to cling onto weird unfactual bullshit statements to justify to themselves why they grew out of or stopped liking a certain thing, and they convince themselves of those things even when presented with evidence that proves they're wrong
TL;DR hip-hop is constantly changing every 5-10 years and if you dont recognize that youre not actually LISTENING
>>66261921
so music primarily made in computers that's been getting more and more advanced in every way every decade except lyricism is comparable to indie radiohead clones? yea no fuck off, your mental gymnastics are on a whole different level
>>66261921
>cherry picked examples
Yeah, listen to The College Dropout, then go listen through The Life of Pablo and tell me they're the exact same
>>66261953
OP is asking if rap is on its way out in general, not if its on its way out among internet autists who spend unholy amounts of their free time listening to and talking about music. Would you expect a random guy off the street to recognize the difference between crust, powerviolence, grind, death metal, etc? Most people don't care too much about these "constant changes"
I just found out YG is opening for G-Eazy on tour.
If that's not a sign of the end of days I don't know what it.
>>66262105
G-Eazy, Childish Gambino etc are what rap will look like in five years. YG, Jay Z, Lil Wayne etc are going to have to cannibalize their own signed talent in order to stay afloat within a much smaller niche, and I don't know if they can do it.
>>66262073
your ilogical rationalization of things by using weird pseudo-arguments is quite interesting but i see theres no point in trying to make you understand, it's like arguing with a female on her period, quite honestly you're a close minded moron and all of your posts incluiding this one are full of mental gymnastics
but anyways the difference is rap doesnt change into a different subgenre when it changes its more of a gradual process thats constantly happening, its THE most versatile genre of all time and is not going anywhere anytime soon
>>66262238
It's interesting, rap now has so little in common sonically with rap 20 years ago it's funny it's still brushed under the same umbrella.
>>66262298
exactly, it's like a breathing living genre and it's what makes it so popular
>>66262185
They won't be able to, their style is irrelevant in popular culture as of right now. They can't rebrand themselves successfully, they're already known for that specific genre.
>>66262238
>it's like arguing with a female on her period
lmao OK I guess. the whole "women are irrational" thing does work on pathetic weebs
>you're a closed minded moron
followed by
>rap [is the only one that] doesn't change into a different subgenere when it changes it's more of a gradual process that's constantly happening, it's THE most versatile genre of ALL TIME
lol you clearly didn't study music history. the things you said about rap are true with all types of music. Jazz morphed extraordinarily throughout the 20th century, as did rock, funk, etc. you're delusional mate
>>66262337
lmao I'm not against the legitimacy of rap and hip-hop, but this is some utter bullshit. talk less out of your ass
>>66262381
>>lmao OK I guess. the whole "women are irrational" thing does work on pathetic weebs
>not being redpilled in 2016
>adding [is the only one that] thereby changing my argument into something completely different
>>the things you said about rap are true with all types of music
>proceeds to name only genres with multiple subgenres
>>66262238
>he still doesn't realize he's arguing with multiple people
>>66262444
the [is the only one that] was to clarify, seeing as you used the following justification to say that, and I quote, "IT IS THE MOST VERSATILE GENRE OF ALL TIME".
>proceeds to name only genres with multiple sub-genres
name one popular genre that neither has sub-genres nor is one.
In 5 years it will be as dead as Rock is today. Or in other words, there will still be a large number of talented artists making good albums in the genre.
All rap sounds the same to me. Come at me /mu/
>>66262584
I'm no rap fan, generally speaking, but these two do not sound like eachother:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLZAw9FCrtg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yRme0C2pmI
>>javascript:quote('66262644')
The only rap song I've genuinely enjoyed was Ice Cube's It Was A Good Day.
>>66262777
thanks for the (you) senpai
>>66261442
>dissing madeintyo
fuck off m8
The future of rap is J.Cole, Logic, & G-Eazy. Rap's fucked.
>>66263251
t. corny white boy
>>66263269
But corny white dudes are the ones flipping their shit for those 3 the most.
>>66260132
wtf, where did that "and electronic music" come from? if you think all electronic music sounds less "fresh" than vintage rock you're a fucking idiot
>>66260334
it's not 2013 anymore lad
SHE SUCK ON THAT DICK ON THE PLANE AND I JUST CALL HER AIRHEAD
>>66263391
>vintage rock
nigger detected
"vintage" refers to music of all kinds from before the late 60s
>>66261492
>>66261492
YA CANT DISS THE FUTURE HENDRIX
>>66261806
Timmy timmy timmy turner
why do i come here
>>66260273
Thugga revolutionized hiphop with his melodic, flowy style and if you disagree you don't know hiphop.
It's not always about the lyrics
