>Why don't you like jazz?
"Because it sucks and I'm tired of hearing about it. Believe me I've tried. I just hate the parts I hate about it more than I like the little things there are to like. The batting average is just so low I can't bear the dead time between highlights being filled with all that noodling. It's vain music."
What did he mean by this?
jazz is the most self indulgent genre next to highly technical metal. i'ts trash for tryhards
>>66259461
Pretty much.
For the most part, jazz is either cluttered wank or bland songwriting.
It started out as pop music, then became music for music critics.
Now it's a dead meme genre.
>>66259461
>>66259563
>>66259461
>>66259563
t. 16 years old rockist
>>66259414
SET ME ON FIREEEEEE
>>66259414
He did mean he's a garbage musician who likes to be edgy instead of delivering quality music. A hack.
>>66259461
how does it feel to not understand a whole genre?
>>66259563
>cluttered wank
you probably don't play an instrument and you also thinks shoegaze is good
>bland songwriting
Objectively wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB2Z2DY17yQ
>Now it's a dead meme genre.
Jazz recent outputs have been more meaningful and innovative than rock releases since the 90s
>>66259414
it's nice to put on in the background
i can't imagine actually getting into it though
>>66261098
You don't know what rockism is.
holy shit /mu/ has gotten pleb-tier in my absence
>>66261396
>implying /mu/ was not always pleb-tier
>>66261396
No idea who you are but welcome back lad
>Because it sucks and I'm tired of hearing about it
He's just a petulant real life shitposter.
Stop niggering around Albini and learn how to actually produce.
Finishing a college degree now
If I fucking do some production school shit and move to Chicago and approach Albini super directly and bluntly (like his music) and ask for an internship what are the odds he'll throw me a bone
>>66261205
Shoegaze is terrible, as is most rock music.
>Herbie Hackcock
>>66261057
It's /mu/to!
>>66259414
What exactly does Albini like? He's openly shat on jazz, electronic music, punk, metal, shoegaze, the Pixies for being "not *that* good", and presumably hip-hop though I can't say for sure.
>>66261778
I also want to know what Albini actually likes...
He probably likes a lot of stuff and just recognizes the parts about it he doesn't like.
On another note, a lot of Jazz is trash, but it has the capacity to be so expressive and beautiful. It's a really mixed bag genre.
>>66261099
KER-O-SENE
>>66261846
what are five jazz albums that you would describe as "trash"?
>>66261467
That's true but this is a whole new level...shitting on jazz? Really?
>>66261490
Thanks friend! I used to post a lot but have been quite busy with real life pursuits.
>>66261915
i'm not gonna go find 5 god damn obscure piece of shit horn players to fill your quota
>>66261915
You're five favorite jazz albums
he is basically a pure hedonist
the boring parts are what makes the good parts good
it would be like skipping through porn watching for only the best positions
>>66261986
and yet you feel confident making the statement "a lot of jazz is trash"
>>66262041
>it would be like skipping through porn watching for only the best positions
doesn't everybody do this though?
>>66261778
idk he said spiderland was a 10/10, but i feel like i could easily see him call that self indulgent trash as well
albini is annoying as fuck
Steve albini = Jim steinman
>everyone in this thread
WEW
>>66261948
You seem cool. What have these real life pursuits involved may I ask?
>>66262187
Mostly research. I started undergrad and have been working on CS research, I'd like to pursue it in graduate school.
I browse whenever some new album comes out just to see what /mu/ thinks about it.
>>66259414
he writes some of the most direct, immediate, non-virtuosic music I can think of, so it makes sense that he wouldn't like jazz
>>66262308
it sucks
>>66262578
:) always
jazz is just blues with all the feeling sapped out of it.
>>66262070
nope, only plebs
>>66259461
lol what does this even mean
>>66259563
>cluttered wank
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmDDOFXSgAs
>bad songwriting
just wrong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeJ9NEyxk8I
>now it's a dead meme genre
Jazz is in an excellent place musically, modern artists are still breaking new ground. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pCzqVoqfc4
>"I'm 16, listen to radiohead, and think I know everything about music" - the post
>>66262808
it means jazz is played for the musicians themselves much like technical metal, i.e. self indulgent
>>66262639
jazz and blues are completely different genres with not even similar cultural contexts
>>66262840
This is partially true these days, but it's such a big genre that different styles are very divergent in this respect (all the community swing bands are done entirely for the audience where lots of free jazz is very self-indulgent)
>>66262840
>jazz is played for the musicians themselves
what, in oppose to, playing to make money? that kind of music is shitty anon. If you don't play music because you enjoy it and to explore your own creative abilities and ideas then you shouldn't be playing at all.
>>66262808
I literally am not listening to any of these.
Cry more, dootfags.
>>66262639
>people with this amount of musical knowledge share the same board as you
it's a shame
>>66261306
>thinking jazz is background/easy listening music
I bet you like Kenny G
>>66261306
Clearly have never listened to Coltrane
>>66262901
As supposed to performing as an entertainer of an audience, and not just masturbating with a vague sense of purpose.
>>66262910
>>66262863
>wikipedia "Jazz"
>control f "blues"
>83 results
your move, jazzfags
>>66259414
yeah i wish everyone pounded the same 3 chords on a distorted guitar too
>>662631
>technical theory aspects are the only important pieces of songwriting
>>66262996
>because jazz originated with the blues it means that jazz is blues with the emotion taken out of it
you clearly have so little knowledge of jazz you shouldn't even be posting. there are so many different subgenres of jazz that you're going to have to be a bit more specific. do you mean bebop? modal jazz? free jazz? swing? cool jazz? post bop? all of these different genres had different origins and different musical vocabulary, and none have inherently less "emotion" than the others
any kind of music that is impressive because of how its made is not necessarily good music. it is just something you enjoy analyzing for personal reasons. you can enjoy something because you appreciate the hard work but effort is not inherently related to the quality of the final product
however i think jazz music is good d:)
>>66262041
>the boring parts are what makes the good parts good
This is so wrong it's almost Satanic. A piece of music has to be good from the first second to the last.
>>66262863
>>66261205
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnyCJDYONSU
>>66261544
>thinking there is anything to imply about hancock
Pleb fucking alert.
>>66262639
is this bait or are you just that stupid
>>66261884
I WAS BORN IN THIS TOWN
Steve the spoiled little boy albini, he doesn't have the time for it, so it's bad, bad like mommy 2312planetehhe
Niggers farting on saxophones is not music
>>66261884
>>66266070
LIVE HERE MY WHOLE LIFE
>>66261525
You have a better chance of slipping on a banana peel and falling dick-first into your favorite female musician's waiting pussy tbqh
>>66266228
PROBABLY COME TO DIE IN THIS TOWN
>>66266296
See ya lads, I'm going to go get some bananas and think of Chelsea Wolf
