>Tfw Radiohead is literally the only band keeping the rock genre relevant
wait a minute, that the wrong eye... has he been faking it this entire time?
you mean swans right
>radiohead
>not pop
Arctic Monkeys
Not even baiting, their first album was legitimately superb
>>66217465
K Y S
>current radiohead
>rock
>rock music
>relevant
radiohead is not really rock and not really relevant
>>66217465
I agree but consensus on here is that they are bad...mostly cause they are really only known for AM in countries outside of England
isn't rock just electric guitar + bass + drums?
dont a good percentage of modern bands still use that
>>66217589
>it doesn't sound like acdc
>not rock
>debuts #3 in billboard
>not relevant
are you a fucking idiot?
>>66217640
What? That's not true at all. They got popular internationally with Favourite Worse Nightmare. I live in Croatia and I'd first heard of them when the singles of that album got played every now and then on MTV Adria (the regional variation of MTV). AM propelled them into weird levels of superstardom, yeah, but their old stuff still gets played here.
>>66217465
If we're talking about bands that are keeping a genre relevant, saying "their first album that came out a decade ago is great" doesn't really hold much currency?
also lmao milburn were better lol
Dude try listening to The Answer.
>>66217151
Jeff Rosenstock
>>66217640
desu the people who trash arctic monkeys after listening to only am are worse than the plebs who think am is the greatest thing ever
>>66220846
I hate that everyone shits on AM and I'm not even a big fan. I thought it was an enjoyable rock record.
>>66217414
nobody outside of the internet circlejerk knows who swans is. i never heard of them before browing 4chan.
>Radiohead
>keeping rock relevant
>by ripping off old electronic music
lmao
>>66220930
I saw a guy in his early 20s wearing a swans shirt. I was genuinely surprised.
>>66220930
wew lad take a walk outside once
>>66217277
Actually he can't move his left eye properly, so when he shuts his right eye, the left eye stays open, giving that illusion. It's more apparent in interviews.
>>66221033
He's had surgery to try and fix it but it botched it more
>>66221099
I thought his eye was completely sealed shut before surgery, so it kind of worked.
>>66217151
is it?
>>66217151
and they're barely even playing rock anymore.
>>66220930
Swans was literally the only /mu/core band I listened to before coming to /mu/
>>66220930
nah man, swans is pretty well known
but they're definitely not keeping the rock scene alive lol everyone outside of the internet who's heard of swans thinks they're fucking weird
>>66220930
oh wow new guy alert
new guy to life, i mean
>>66217564
>rock ''''''music'''''
>>66218492
This -MSP couldn't even chart at #1.
On the other hand MUSE - DRONES debuted at #1 in 15 countries including the UK and the US and won the 2016 Grammy for "Best Rock Album"
>Tfw MUSE is literally the only band keeping the Rock Genre relevant.
>>66222804
You can't fool me Musefag
Radiohead-lite
>>66222933
And you can't dispute the facts that I posted. Radiohead-lite's last effort surpassed Radiohead's last effort.
>>66223065
Not critically
Whether you like it or not The 1975 has been a booster shot for rock. The whole era of buttrock resulted in a generation totally unmoved by rock. The old stalwarts like Radiohead and Tallicka kept rock alive but there was nothing new for a long time. The 1975 is as big-pop a rock band has been in decades.
The only relevant form of rock now is metal
>>66223177
and meddle
>>66223132
This. Every genre needs it's shitty pop artists to stay alive and relevant.
>>66223132
>>66223250
The 1975 aren't even as popular as Tame Impala, let alone "keeping rock relevant"
>>66223086
Critics aren't relevant. Charlie Puth's debut album is one of the lowest rated albums in Metacritic history, and it still sold 500K in a time when most people don't even buy albums.
Imagine Dragons, Fall Out Boy, and Maroon 5 are the most rock bands in recent memory. They're the only ones who consistently had hits on Billboard in the 2010s. THEY'RE the ones keeping rock relevant.
>>66223490
But they all suck so much dick
if AMSP was released by a different artist, rock would never come up in the discussion. They were a rock band at one time, but they've been making art pop for quite a while
>>66223600
Are you saying In Rainbows, TKOL or even AMSP is art pop? And are you actually using the term art pop unironically?
>>66217151
>>Tfw Radiohead is literally the only band keeping the rock genre relevant
>>66223490
All of those band went to a more radio, non-rock sound though. No guitars, no real instrumentation, no nothing. Maybe back in the day they played real instruments, but I haven't heard a song by any of these guys that isn't just over produced garbage in about ten years for the former two. Imagine Dragons is barely even rock.
I think that some of the more alternative bands that sneak onto pop radio like Alabama Shakes and The Black Keys have kind of kept rock relevant.
Tame Impala is the only band keeping rock relevant, and they're not even rock anymore.
>>66223985
>one album that was pop
kys
>>66223985
Agreed
Hopefully Kevin doesn't use the synthesizer on the LP4 too much though
>>66217414
Swans is technically pop music too.
Yeah I mean if we're talking relevant in the mainstream then Swans isn't even in the discussion and Radiohead isn't at the forefront. Plenty of rock-ish groups charting these past couple of years, one poster named a few like Imagine Dragons and FallOut Boy. Linkin Park sold a bunch in 2014 and a new album coming this year.
>>66224092
I hope you're joking. They are incredibly inaccessible. I listen to a lot of music and I just can't stand them at all.
>>66224022
Literally every other band has gone the way of twee indie pop that they can sell to tumblr girls flicking the bean while watching Teen Wolf reruns on MTV. Tame Impala is following the money, my friend.
>>66224216
I thought I was the only one
I just don't get the appeal of repeating the same note for 4 minutes straight at a time
>>66224429
I'd much rather have a good riff play for 10 minutes than 10 mediocre riffs play for 1 minute each.
>>66224092
Lmao Swans is about the furthest thing from "Pop"
>>66224429
I don't get it either. And constantly repeating the same word over and over and over.
>>66224497
Different strokes I guess
I've listened to The Seer and To Be Kind. Is their pre-trilogy work more of the same?
>QOTSA
>inb4 theyre not rock theyre stoner rock/metal
>>66224542
Stoner rock and metal are both rock though
And they are stoner rock
>>66223132
oh jesus, this is actually not a bad point
i really don't want this to make sense, but it kinda does
Zs
>>66223086
Get rekt
>>66224542
>Not relevant
>>66224562
>don't want it to
Who gives a shit
>>66223273
>The 1975 aren't even as popular as Tame Impala
the '75 have grossly outsold impala in record sales, and are most definitely more profitable. and shirly are playing to much larger crowds.
in what measure is tame impala more popular? did you forget to append the clause "...amongst patricians"?
>>66224632
forgot pic
I've been listening to Swans nonstop and I accidentally brought it up in conversation with a normie girl over the phone
>>66224697
Who cares?
>>66224632
You're pulling shit out of your ass Currents and whatever the name of the 1975's new album is had comparable first week sales
And both bands sell out whatever venue they go to
>>66224600
>like clockwork
>#1 on billboard
>not relevant
tripfags are truly the worst
>>66224710
Sales don't mean shit anyway with piracy and streaming.
>>66217151
>what is AWOLNATION
>>66224767
theyre electronic shit anon
>>66224764
They don't bring it up in an argument about which band is more popular
>>66224542
QOTSA aren't exactly mainstream. They're definitely the best rock band on the planet tho.
>>66224882
not mainstream? the fuck are you talking about? no one knows was all over mtv and every rock radio station on earth and since then they've been mainstays. i saw them open for the chili peppers on that tour and they blew them out of the fucking water. and that was golden era frusciante too.
>>66224798
>I listened to one of their popular songs a few years ago and now know that they are undeniably shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hc6egaAUjI
you have shit taste friendo
>>66224817
the anon you're responding to isn't me who you were responding to at first.
anyway, according to wikipædia's reporting of album sales all of tame impala's albums combined don't equal the sales of the 1975's first album, even though it came out 3 years late than tame's.
but whatever man, i'm not saying TI aren't popular, i'm just saying they don't attract seas of screaming tweens and 1D fans
Did you, uh, forget about Muse?
>>66224817
It does because who knows how many people are pirating and streaming.
>>66224092
>>66224515
It's popular music.
>>66224970
I did not forget Radiohead-lite
>>66225008
pop =/= popular music you mong
>>66225008
Swans is not that popular
>>66224970
Kek
>>66225008
They're not popular by any stretch of the imagination.
>>66224092
>>66224216
>>66224515
They're popular music, not pop music
Get your shit straight retards
>>66225116
Are you fucking stupid? They're still not "popular". In the main scheme of things less than a million people in the entire world probably listen to swans.
>>66225116
Swans =\= popular
>>66225144
>>66225222
Hello idiots, time for a music lesson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_music
>>66225008
LMAO dude Swans' TGM debuted at 151 on billboard that means it sold like 3-4 thousand albums and barely streamed. If that's "popular" to you then I'm done here
>>66225236
time for a history lesson
>>66225241
>>66220930
>nobody outside of the internet circlejerk knows who swans is
One of the most influential experimental rock/alternative bands?
>>66225236
Please lull yourself.
>>66225259
>i didn't read the article
>"Although popular music sometimes is known as "pop music", the two terms are not interchangeable.[7] Popular music is a generic term for a wide variety of genres of music that appeal to the tastes of a large segment of the population,[8] whereas pop music usually refers to a specific musical genre within popular music.[9]"
Man, I'm a Swans fan and you're embarassing as shit.
>>66225262
I mean one of the most experimental sure, but I don't know any bands that sound like them enough to say they're influencing bands and artists.
>>66225323
>swans
They don't at all appeal to a "wide variety" of people. They're not popular like you think they are.
>>66225344
That's what makes a band popular though
Appealing to either a wide variety of people or a very large number of people and Swans does neither
>>66225344
>h-haha i only r-read the s-small excerpt of a full article and you're wrong h-haha
Guess again retard
>The term popular music belongs to a number of musical genres "having wide appeal"[1][2][3] and typically distributed to large audiences through the music industry. These forms and styles can be enjoyed and performed by people with little or no musical training.[1] It stands in contrast to both art music[4][5][6] and traditional or "folk" music.
That describes Swans down to the last apostrophe.
>>66225364
That's what I was saying..? They're not popular no matter which at you try and spin it.
>>66225385
I didn't insult you. It's not doing your argument any favours.
>>66225389
Ah sorry thought you were the guy saying Swans is popular in the non-musical term of the word
>>66225404
>waaahhhh you insulted me
>i have no comment on your argument or point though ok muh feefees are most important
Behold, the kind of person who doesn't understand the popular/art/traditional music dichotomy
>>66224216
>>66224515
>>66225116
>I worked soo hard to get into this band and now I'm told it's the same thing as most other bands?! NOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>66225470
Dude, we're on the same side. Stop attacking the people that are with you. I'm
>>66225236
>>66225287
>>66225323
>>66225385
>>66225449
>>66225116
I've been defending your original argument longer than you have even been in the thread.
>Radiohead
>Arctic Monkeys
>Muse
>Swans
>Unironically caring about any of these enough to have a pitched shitflinging contest about them, let alone actually listening to them
You people are below plebeians; you are slaves, helots, worthy only of servitude.
>>66223530
>keeping something relevant
=/=
>being good
>>66225526
>I only listen to true Avant-Garde music. Merzbow, TMR the list goes on...
>not Muse
>>66225526
>Listens to static for breakfast
>"Yea I'm enjoying this"
>>66225575
I know this is bait but christ Muse gets tiring
>>66225575
Legendary bait
>>66225575
get the bait while its hot fags
>>66225618
>>66225616
>>66225612
Give me one legitamately reason as to why Radiohead is better than Muse
I'll wait
>>66225575
even if this were accurate, it would still not take into account that the material radiohead produces ends up being much more exciting and innovative, even if the origins of the music were as they were in this
>>66225637
Give me one legitmate reason as to why Muse is better than Radiohead
Go on, you're the one claiming they're better, so prove it
>>66225554
>>66225599
>The only two genres in the world are alternative rock and noise bullshit
You just dropped from slaves to lion food.
>>66225637
Muse
>Kids like glitter and edgy sharp guitars
>Look I can falsetto
>Same 2 notes 4 octaves away sounds cool
>Le harmonic scale
>I just went from a Minor to it's parallel major, I'm a fucking music god
>"OOOOHH SAAAVE MMMEE BAABY FROM THE BAD GOVERNMENT PEOPLE"
Radiohead
>I doubt anyone will relate to this but here I go I'm doing it for the sake of my own musical creativity flow
>Not quite there, let's rewrite it was probably rubbish anyway
>Make that one instrument quieter
>No why would we need a solo in this? It's not even relevant to the song
>Forget theory just make sure it's from the heart
This is half trolling but you get the point. There are no solid points because its musical taste
and autismos on /mu/ don't understand you can dislike/like certain things. Also I have a
band mate who is into Muse and he is the most pretentious fan I have met of any band.
>>66217151
>rock genre
uh what? are we talking about the same band here?
>>66223177
but these days metal is shit
if you think radiohead is even remotely representative of rock music, you need to stop spending so much time with your wife's son and grow a pair
>>66222804
WTF I love Muse now
>>66224959
>wikipædia
>æ
you are a fucking faggot
In Rainbows changed music forever though
>literally
as opposed to figuratively?
>>66227849
>People unironically thinking Muse is/ ever was good.
>>66222804
LE GOVERNMENT IS CONTROLLING THE DRONES UNSUSTAINABLE WUB WUB WUB WUB BRAAHA WEWEWEWEWEEWEW
keeping it irrelevant more like it
>ctrl+f
>no Alice in Chains
Not sure if you people are too young or just contrarians.
Last RH album was crap.
>>66217151
Arcade Fire are undoubtedly the most important rock band of our generation, whether you like it or not. They are by far the most acclaimed and heavily influential of this era of music in rock, everytime Arcade Fire put something out, the hold music world stops and has to examine it. It's very clear to me, whether you like it or not, they're going to go down as the dadrock of this era.
>>66217151
Ehh, I've listened to better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCjV-80Tqog
![85705fc6a0f0507c1b5c6c39a6788628.480x480x1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/TZTUDHy.jpg "85705fc6a0f0507c1b5c6c39a6788628.480x480x1[1].jpg")
What about Breaking Benjamin?
>>66224529
lol not in the slightest
here, give these songs a listen
Fool - from Greed (1985)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-g8FlYRflA
Blackmail - from Children of God (1987)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIP7TVwsv1o
Killing for Company - from The Great Annihilator (1995)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqRt34Yf-b0
>>66217465
The first album felt like a legit take on emo from the UK then it just got p boring.
>>66217151
>tfw OP is wrong
Rock is fine, people will always play rock music regardless if its popular or not. Radiohead is just a pop band. Titus Andronicus is probably the best answer for a band keeping rock relevant. Or PUP. Their new album rocks
>>66220841
Tru
>>66230078
Seeing Pup at a sold out show on their first headline UK tour soon, so excited The Dream is Over is fantastic.
>>66217414
Not even trolling, how do I into swans
>>66220888
It's a good record but a little bit samey I feel
>>66218696
Really I never heard of Arctic Monkeys being big in Croatia
>>66220846
True but most people find it hard to get over first impressions
