What will be the dadrock of 2030?
>>65958564
>implying linkin park fans will ever have sex with anybody
>>65958670
I've had sex
t. Linkin Park fan
>>65958564
Foo Fighters
easy
>>65958564
Death Grips
>>65958758
They're already dadrock since many albums ago.
>>65958564
It already is.
>>65958700
pics or it didn't happen
>>65958997
An artist doesn't become dadrock until 25 years after their debut record. That means LP won't become dadrock until 2024.
>LP magically shows up one day with a slick, high budget major label album release that manages to perfectly tap into late 90s pop culture fads
There was something so contrived and fake about this thing. I mean, their later albums after Meteora were different but that's probably after the record label didn't care about them anymore and were all like "Oh well, you can do whatever you want now."
>>65959155
Shut the fuck up with this stupid assshit.
Nobody under 34 thinks Linkin Park is good unless their some scene kid music defender.
Linkin Park is a modern example of dads rock, same with bands like Brand New, Radiohead, At the Drive In etc.
>>65959290
I was Fourteen at the time, and it was kind of an open secret when Hybrid Theory come out that Linkin Park was a label-assembled band with music written by some fat middle-aged Jewish guy in Simi Valley and were basically the rock equivalent of N*sync and with exactly as much artistic merit.
But it definitely seems like all the kids who were two or three years younger than me never got that memo...
>>65959155
Example:
Rolling Stones became dadrock in 1989
Kiss became dadrock in 1999
Metallica became dadrock in 2008
Led Zeppelin became dadrock in 1994
Van Halen became dadrock in 2003
Foo Fighters
Muse
Linkin Park
Limp Bizkit
Nickelback
Creed
Radiohead (for the "sophisticated" dads)
MCR?
Queens of the Stone Age
>>65959431
You know, if you read contemporary reviews of Shout At The Devil, they thought Motley Crue were manufactured as well and they played a "watered down blend of AC/DC, Black Sabbath, and Van Halen that might as well have been synthesized by MTV's marketing department."
Though that theory is kind of disproven by how they had an earlier indie label debut which is not the case with LP. Shit, even Nickelback had albums before SSU.
>>65958564
Radiohead
The Shins
Blur
>>65958758
Foo Fighters is the dadrock of today
>>65959585
MCR will be mom rock in the future.
>>65959585
My dad likes most of these ;_;
>>65959585
>QotSA
pfft you kids these days don't know what real rock music is
*winds down the windows of my dad-mobile*
*turns on radio and starts bobbing head to No One Knows*
OMG MOOOOM MAKE DAD STOP HE'S SO EMBARRASSING
WTF is the stigma with 'dad' music? Dad rock is usually fairly good music, probably not what you'd call patrician, but not terrible nonetheless?
>>65959892
Only because you don't listen to the pleb dadrock like REO Speedwagon and Styx.
>>65959599
Fourteenfag here.
I remember when Nickelback (and Staind) had their first singles drop on WAAF in 1999 or so, and they were both inoffensively listenable aggro-sounding post-grunge, and since both Staind and Godsmack were local bands that can out of MA's shitty late-90s music scene, we all knew that their shitty corporate-ness was only because they sold their souls to the labels to make millions and sell out football stadiums.
I'd imagine listening to Crue's first major label album was the same for people who grew up in and around that legendary sunset strip hair metal scene that gave us Van Halen, Ratt, Crue, Poison, and god knows who else.
Trying to imagine what scene Linkin Park could have crawled out of is like trying to imagine what scene might have produced Maroon 5, ie, none this side of record company boardroom.
>>65959892
There's no stigma towards dad rock, only towards fans of dad rock.
>>65959599
But MC were never not bandwagoners.
>early 80s
>imitate British glam rock like Slade and Bowie
>SATD
>imitate Priest/Maiden
>late 80s
>imitate Bon Jovi
>90s
>imitate Pearl Jam
What are examples of 'good' old dad rock then?
>>65959940
>I'd imagine listening to Crue's first major label album
SATD is still pretty heavy stuff (if not as heavy as Dio, Ozzy, and Maiden's '83 releases)...the real sellout point was TOP when they turned into soft, girl-friendly pop rock.
>>65959155
>>65959503
people are having kids in under 25 years old
>>65959940
A lot of those pop punk/post grunge bands jumped on the bandwagon for money. Goo Goo Dolls, Nickelback, Vertical Horizon, even Smash Mouth all had more obscure/underground/indie releases prior to turning into commercial stadium rock.
>>65960214
Only if you live in a trailer park. ;)
If we are talking about parents in their 30-40s right now, dadrock will be:
Foo Fighters
Nirvana
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Incubus
Radiohead
>>65960234
Goo Goo Dolls had been mainstream since ABNG though.
The Eagles were pretty manufactured back in the day.
>bunch of session musicians who get together in a band
About as real as Bread except Bread didn't sell 25% as many albums as the Eagles or get 15% of the radio play.
System of a down
Blink 182
Weezer
>>65958564
Oasis
>>65958564
won't be dadrock as much as dadrap
Wolfmother
>>65960234
Yeah, I remember Smashmouth's pre-All Star days as a quirky retro 60's mod kitsch band not unlike the B-52s or Edwyn Collins.
>>65959155
I'd say 20, but yeah
>>65960404
Just like Toto!
But I'd hardly call them "manufactured" in the same way that late-90s/early-00's bands were, only because the record industry was just so different back in the 70s and shit like bands forming out of record company/studio personnel happened in a much more organic fashion because the industry was so much larger and more diversified (not to mention profitable)
>>65960541
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Z2218wdcs
>song about lesbians
How the fuck would you even believe this is the same band? And it took them only one album to sell out.
>>65960541
>mfw Astro Lounge is unironically GOAT
>>65960428
this + pre-21st century breakdown Green Day
>>65960628
Fuck, do I miss the sonic/thematic diversity of the 90s music scene
>>65959155
This is what I use as well, and its by far the most accurate way to define it. It's true for retroactive AND Proactive analysis.
>>65960609
Well...I mean in the 70s, rock music was still very young and much more associated with rebellion than it would be by the 2000s.
Maybe Foreigner would be a good example of a nakedly manufactured 70s group?
>>65960338
Yeah that was the first album to get them mainstream attention but Dizzy Up The Girl is what made them into superstars for a brief moment in time.
>>65960737
Yeah, Foreigner was an obviously manufactered cash grab of a band
>>65960737
>>65960827
Would REO Speedwagon count as well, I don't remember if they were nakedly commercial as well
>>65960852
REO Speedwagon were part of that slick country rock sound that was popular in the 70s but no as the other guy said it was a different time and those bands weren't "manufactured" in the sense that Simple Plan were.
And yes, REO Speedwagon were very very very commercial and their singles got played on the radio thousands of times a day back then.
>>65958564
>>65958758
>>65959585
all already dadrock
t. i'm a father of two
>>65961056
Post pics of your kids.
>>65961203
tor exists to supply yourself with skeet material
>>65959599
Or why Kurt Cobain thought AIC and Pearl Jam were fake since they had no underground or indie label past.
>>65958758
they transcended the dadrock definition after 2000 into being an early and permanent member of dadrock
>>65961203
>me
>posting pics of my kids on 4chan of all places
Are you Squidding me?
>>65958564
Things like eminem, dre, nwa, snoop dogg etc. pretty much fill the role dad rock used to.
>>65961611
Eminem aside, is your dad black? Oh wait.
>black people
>father
Pick uno.
Read Christgau's column about "the 70s in review". He comments on the rapid degeneration of rock after 1972 into commercial slop like Doobie Brothers and REO Speedwagon.
>>65961904
IAF, the protest movement was winding down by that point so it's understandable why rock got a tune slacker than in 1969.
>>65959585
Was about to comment this. Don't forget about the Black Keys& Arctic Monkeys
>>65959585
6 of the nine bands you listed suck cock and balls though.
>>65958564
The black keys are the most dad rock of dad rockiest bands I've ever heard, so much so that my dad already been listening to them for years in his shop and hes like 60. When I walk in and hear them its like I'm looking at myself in the future.
>>65959642
Each MCR album became mom rock two years after its release
once they broke up they lost all glory and achieved double mom status
Mom
Core
Rock
I'd say any of those 90s alt rock bands have been dadrock for some time now. That whole 90s Gen Xer angst is really kind of outdated and not at all what kids today are feeling. I think if a frontman today said stuff in interviews like Thurston Moore or Layne Staley did, he'd probably get punched in the face.
Wait, didn't John Kasich who's like 60 admit to having LP on his MP3 player?
>>65962613
So you'd rather he has nothing made after 1978 on his MP3 player?
>tfw the awful thought of all the middle aged dudes washing their car to Stadium Arcadium in 25 years
>>65962721
As far as I know, all RHCP fans consist of:
1. Old ex-frat boy stoners from the 80s
2. Millenials who got into them during the Californication-SA run.
LP sucked then and they suck now.
>>65960601
25 actually does work out pretty nicely if you study most bands' career arcs.
>>65958758
HOLY SHIT
IT'S 2030?!
>>65959155
Oh hey look, an autistic person.
>>65959922
Shut up, REO Speedwagon is great.
>>65963874
Ok, explain in detail how I'm wrong.
What's /mu/s opinion on blink-182, specifically the track Adam's Song?
Do I have serve shit taste if this piece gives me the feels? It can't be nostalgia because I was a wigger as a teenager
>>65959431
Yeah, I was a fucking retard when I was like...10/11 I'll own it, lol
Were they really pre-assembled? I have no problem believing they were entirely manufactured but I thought they were an existing band with a different singer they kicked out in favor of bleach-blonde Sonic the Hedgehog there.
I'd be morbidly fascinated to know the gross history of how they got big and all that. Kinda like watching a documentary on the rise of Hitler or something.
>>65963916
Kevin Cronin's nephew plz go.
>>65963941
Technically Pearl Jam used to be a hair metal group Mother Love Bone and then they renamed themselves, hired Eddie Vedder, and played angsty whinefests.
>>65963919
Do you literally think there is some magic number that, by the time a band/their music has been around that long, it magically becomes some kind of tangible entity known as "dad rock"?
If yes - then you are a goddamn autist lmao. I mean Christ, people labeled Wilco as dad rock the second their very first damn album came out.
>>65963939
I think the majority of /mu/ has a soft spot for Blink even if they refuse to admit it. Adam's Song is a great track.
>>65963939
Its literally the saddest song ever written and don't let anyone ever tell you otherwise. Its inspired by an actual suicide note.
>>65963984
How the fuck did they land on "Mother Love Bone" AND THEN DECIDE TO CHANGE THEIR NAME?
It's like being given a gift from the gods and being like "nah thanks we're good actually"
>>65963993
In the case of the Rolling Stones, 1989 works great because that's the year they officially gave up on life and became a Greatest Hits act until they die.
>>65964013
Never liked them. Not as a kid. Not now.
And I even really like pop punk/emo *now
>>65963984
Ditto Alice In Chains were a hairspray group Temple of the Dog in a previous incarnation.
>>65964037
Well yeah but that's just one specific example yknow
There are plenty of bands that dadrock from the day they form
>>65963939
Blink-182 managed to inspire a huge wave of pop punk of which the reverberations can still be felt today. And even more amazing than that, they are still the only band to pull it off.
>>65964037
Metallica, same thing. 2008.
>>65959155
>Nirvana
>became dadrock in 2012
>Soundgarden
>became dadrock in 2014
>Pearl Jam
>will become dadrock this year
>Alice in Chains
>became dadrock last year
Mark my words, Radiohead will actually be considered dadrock in 2030
It'll still be "cool" to like them though, they'll be the Pink Floyd of the future
>>65964081
>There are plenty of bands that dadrock from the day they form
Tame Impala
>>65964207
what? Pearl Jam has been dadrock for at least 5 years
>>65963984
Eh, Mother Love Bone was pretty angsty in itself.
>>65964266
Assuming the 25 year figure, so 1991+25=2016 and Ten turns 25 next August.
I was 11 when Linkin Park came out and Hybrid Theory is one of my favorite music albums.
I can understand why a lot of people think they were overrated (they were probably were), but why do people think that LP's earlier albums were bad music?
>>65964323
They were shit with obnoxious songs, obnoxious fans, and the later albums (after they had free creative reign) were even worse.
>>65964323
It's just that they were so over-the-top and angsty that it made them easy to make fun of. I don't think LP was bad at all.
>>65964084
Not true, that was Green Day's "Dookie" that inspired that wave of pop-punk. Blink-182 was actually swimming in the waves that Green Day created back in 1994, just like the Sum42, All-American Rejects, Avril Lavigne, Simple Plan and the other pop-punk acts.
>>65964347
What was obnoxious about their music?
Hybrid Theory [Warner Bros., 2000]
the men don't know what the angry boys understand ("Points of Authority," "Papercut") **
>>65959940
Lmao, it is kind of funny trying to imagine Maroon 5 starting out as a band "trying to make it"
It does sort of feel like they have been on KISS FM across the country for the entirety of their career (mostly because yknow...they have.)
>>65959585
Radiohead wil definitely be a top "wrong generation" band, OK Computer hits the same sort of nerve as Wish You Were Here or The Wall
>>65964255
Yep.
Not since the day they formed but didn't take long either, Arctic Monkeys in this boat too.
>>65964413
Dookie, like all of greenday, is more punk rock than pop punk
>>65964494
I mean, yeah GD did gradually get softer and more radio friendly as they went along.
>>65964323
I was too man, but as soon as I grew half a brain I was able to look back at that shit and look at it for the joke that it was and is, lol
(Also, thinking about that span of time...probably ~6 yearsish I would say, it's crazy how much you change during your teens, but I'm 25 now and I've been listening to pretty much the same kind of stuff I've liked for the past 5 or 6 years now...I mean duh obviously, but kinda hilarious to think about.)
>>65964564
linkin parks collision course with Jay Z is still a top tier album
>>65964323
Californication was one of my favorite when I was 11 but that was actually a real band and not a product of professional Jew song doctors to milk angsty teens' money.
>>65964463
Hopefully there'll be enough kids by then who'll be smart enough to not fall into ~LE WRONG GENERATION trap that it doesn't give Radiohead a bad name to all the rest of younger people and oh god why am I talking about shit that's gonna happen when I'm 40.
>>65964623
"Agreed"
-14 yr old me
>>65959305
Fuck you asshole
>>65964323
I am born in 1993, and I got into LP after they released MtM, which I bought a CD of but never really got into, instead listening to Hybrid Theory and Meteora obsessively, to the point that when I listen to songs from these albums now, I can't hear any music or message other than a huge bombardment of my old over-the-top teenage angst feels, which are not relevant to me anymore (I don't go to high school anymore, so it is not relevant to feed the anxieties about school bullying or puppy loves by listening to LP)
So yeah, it is an age thing. At certain point, you kinda figure out that all this pop-punk and nu-metal is just a clever marketing that caters perfectly to insecurities almost any teenager in the world faces at some point (disappointed parents, school bullying, puppy love, friends backstabbing you etc.) and you have to start finding music that caters to niches that supports your growth as a person better (inspires your creativity, encourages positive mental attitude, allows relaxation, encourages you to face reality instead of caving into escapism etc.)
>>65958564
>>65964679
listen to that shit again and then say that to my face
>>65964701
this will actually be hilarious
>>65964697
Unless you're nostalgic 50-60 year olds on Steve Hoffman Forums who still wank off to IT'S OOOONLLLYYY TEEEEENNNNAAGGGEEEE WAAAASTELAAAAANDDDDD
>>65964701
Give it 5, 10 years max. I mean, their new shit is borderline dadrock-on-arrival.
Seriously, their new music is NFL-commercialcore.
>>65958700
nah
>>65964762
Yeh but at least you can appreciate the cultural significance of The Who and they weren't manufactured Jew crap like LP.
>>65964697
Most of those pop punk/nu metal bands were totally fake and manufactured and they all had the same downtuned crunchy guitars, Eddie Vedder impersonators, fake angst lyrics, and identical chord progressions. Oh, and no solos.
>>65964697
>So yeah, it is an age thing. At certain point, you kinda figure out that all this pop-punk and nu-metal is just a clever marketing
With all of the songs written by some 45 year old Jewish guy at Geffen Records.
OK, we're starting to cross over into annoying, anti-Semitic level with the constant harping on the jew thing
like christ
you can probably just safely assume that about any pop artist and probably be right.
>>65965910
>>>/reddit/
Mike Shinoda seems like a pretty cool guy
The Strokes
Interpol
Fleet Foxes
Wilco
Muse
Coldplay
Radiohead
>>65962913
highly accurate
>>65964153
holy shit you're totally right
and they even gave up on that record too because the song structures are identical to past hits (Cyanide = Fuel, just off the top of my head
>>65964266
its ofc a rule of thumb, but you'll hit critical mass dadrock, where there will be more dads than kids who like Pearl Jam. This is specific to PJ because they went dadrock faster than others. The rule holds more true for most other bands
>>65968135
>This is specific to PJ because they went dadrock faster than others
Whut.
>>65964233
I can definitely see this happening. Great from almost day 1 (in retrospect, because the past mushes together as time goes on) and consistently good, with great records all over the place.
Pink Floyd is probably the most airtight dadrock band, and the most similar band to that reputation has to be Radiohead. They even work in a vacuum like Pink Floyd did.
>>65959155
>>65959503
Judas Priest...if you count 25 years from Rocka Rolla then that would bring us up to 1999 but then that would leave out Demolition which was the last time they tried anything new before bringing back the bloated ghost of Rob Halford to exploit nostalgiabux.
On the other hand, they've always considered SWOD their "official" start so 1976+25=2001 and that just about works.
>>65968579
Demolition was absolute garbage though.
>>65968579
And Aerosmith should have been dadrock in 1998 although they actually managed to hold out until at least after JPP.
>>65968725
JPP was also garbage and nothing but a wrapper for one single.
>>65968613
Yeah yeah I know Jugulator was the last time Tipton and Downing did anything remotely interesting with their guitars (dat Cathedral Spires).
>tfw my dad got me into LP when I was 7
Reanimation was on okayplayer when it first came out and I was obsessed for years to come. No regrets, it's been a fun ride. Can't wait to tell my kids about it.
>>65959503
But the Stones were already dadrock by the Reagan years?
Considering I know dads who went to raves in the 90s, I'm pretty sure brostep dads aren't that far off.
Surprised no one has mentioned pic related yet
Seven Nation Army is going to be on every classic rock radio station 15-20 years from now
