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Which is better?
>either thoroughly composed, philosophical experimental rock
>or buttindie
hm
that's like asking "which of these 2 shits stinks the less ?"
>>65930582
I love Aesthetica too but there's no need to be rude to Sunbather boldy
>experimental, innovative progressive black metal versus generic black metal post-rock shoegaze which has been done plenty of times before
>>65930582
>>65930558
both are great
but i prefer aesthethica, because it's a more enjoyable listen
Aesthethica is a lot more unique and fun to hand-drum along to, Sunbather to me is "the musical equivalent of swallowing sunscreen" -rym comment box said it pretty well
to be fair i love all the interludes on Sunbather, which i couldn't say about the former
Aesthethica is a much more rewarding listen but Sunbather is so immediate and uplifting. This is a very difficult question.
>>65930916
>Aesthethica is a much more rewarding listen
>>65930801
>Aesthethica is a lot more unique and fun to hand-drum along to
>>65930582
>thoroughly composed, philosophical experimental rock
is this b8?
Aesthetica still sounds fresh today.
sunbather got old real fast.
>>65930558
Aesthethica for sure. One of the most underrated releases of this decade. It's ok to not like it but hating it just because its not ''muh kvlt'' or not ''evil'' enough is fucking retarded.
FUCK OFF
>>65931514
Just because someone likes something you don't doesnt make it bait.
>>65931514
no, it's a great album
>>65931569
yeah, but who actually does that
>>65930582
>either thoroughly composed, philosophical experimental rock
What a pleb. Cringe. Eww.
>>65931628
go on rym. all the darkthrone and burzum dick-riders like to shit on it for retarded reasons.
>>65931560
>>65930801
>>65930616
you guys realize sunbather was one of the first albums that did that right? the reson it sound bland is because its been copied so much times
>>65930558
>OMG A BLACKGAZE ALBUM WITH A PINK ARTWORK
> SO EDGY
> ACCLAIMED BY HIPSTERS WHO NEVER LISTEN METAL IN THEIR LIVES
>>65930558
USA is like the king Midas of shit. Touches black metal and turned it to shit
>>65931770
Alcest did it first back in 2005 you fucking pleb
>>65931960
This. Only correct answer in this thread.
>>65930558
I prefer Aesthethica desu, but it's not as consistent as Sunbather
>>65931960
krallice, agalloch, panopticon, kayo dot
>>65931693
also you can go to every single Liturgy video on YouTube and just cringe at the kvltness of the comments section
>hipster metal
>good
Retard
>>65931960
>muh scandinavian black metal
stay pleb with your stale tremolo picking senpai
I like Sunbather a lot but i like the agression and how crazy Aesthetica is a lot more
>>65932069
The thing is, not only scandinavian black is good, there are many great bands all over the world, but why American black sounds so shitty?
>>65931770
Écailles De Lune was made in 2010 brah
I really don't see how Aesthethica is "hipster". It's not as nearly as accessible as Sunbather, nor it has a huge amount of retarded fans like PewDiePie, indieheads or tumblrinas.
>>65930558
Both are hipster shit, but Liturgy is amusing. while Deafheaven are boring atmoshit
>>65932156
>that slowed down guitar part in Escailles De Lune part 1
Jesus, feels everytime
>>65932170
Only hipsters love that. Very simple.
>>65932047
Or you can cringe at HHH acting autistic
>>65932184
But they arent even atmoshit. Atmoshit is what bands like Cult of Luna or Tempel make. Deafheaven is post rock with black metal influences
>>65930582
Holy fuck how embarrassing
college freshman tier crap
Find me a better experimental rock song from this decade that isn't also by Liturgy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV00_B3ZirQ
>>65932226
>blackgaze is not atmoshit
Retard alert
And bands like Cult of Luna or Tempel make actually good atmoshit
>>65932150
those just copy-paste the scandinavian style of black metal, not saying that it is bad, but I like it when my black metal is a bit progressive or comes up with new ideas, which is what the American black has been doing for nearly two decades.
>>65932251
But anon , blackgaze isnt atmoshit
>>65932204
you mean avant-teens? we may agree on that one
>>65932226
Anything that isn't shitty thrash recorded on an answering machine is now atmoshit according to /metal/9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ6LguUL-e8
this pretentious faggot is your guy? really?
even his bandmates seem sick of his shit
>>65932156
>>65931987
I realize that, but sunbather populerized it
>>65932215
fuck off hes a qt pie
both are trash
>Liturgy fans will defend this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HTajp3sGww
>>65932294
Kek
>>65932296
>even his bandmates seem sick of his shit
The historic divides in Liturgy stem, in large part, from the force of Hunt-Hendrix’s ideas, not their content. Every member recognizes that the theories of his manifesto and the hubbub that ensued worked both ways for the band, generating attention and notice while harboring negativity and personal attacks. But no one disagrees vehemently with the ideas themselves, if they have an opinion on them at all. Instead, the conflict came from the way they crowded out discourse about the actual music, as if Hunt-Hendrix were an intellectual frontman who had simply built some heavy metal automaton.
>>65932299
Retarded
>>65932299
>I realize that
You clearly didn't, otherwise you wouldn't have claimed there weren't several albums which did blackgaze before deafheaven. I like the record but it's nothing unique.
>>65932314
kek
Sunbather is babbies first "metal" record
Fun fact: when studying music theory, there was an extra credit assignment for finding examples of certain techniques or qualities in the music (chords, functions, etc.).
One of them was a 7-6 sequence, and I used this as an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1jkUJ4IMUM
>>65932349
This
>>65930558
both are absolutely terrible but aesthetica is the lesser shit
>>65930558
Both are great but Sunbather is better.
>>65932299
I don't hate sunbather and I think you mean revived it. which is true
but for longevity I personally comeback to Aesthetica than sunbather.
It's an hell of a album that hopefully when people get over Triple H's autism realize how good it is
I love Liturgy but this is some of the most autistic shit I've ever seen, also watch out for benis at 31:45
https://vimeo.com/24858799
Are there any other Trancendental Black Metal bands besides Liturgy?
>>65932440
Gojira featuring Bjorn "Speed" strid
>>65932440
Krallice, Yellow Eyes
>>65932430
>>65932314
>>65932296
What does any of those have to do with the album aesthethica
You know the album is great which is why you're using other sources to try and discredit it
>>65932314
this is good retard
he achieves a melismatic and annealing effect which is impressive given the dearth of musical resources
*transcendental*
>>65932476
Krallice is basically Technical Black Metal, they don't even play burst-beats senpai
ark work, fags.
>>65932488
The whole album concept is pretentious hogwash that is awfully executed
>>65932498
lol
>>65932314
this is awesome
>>65932521
>experimental blackened trap with midi trumpets
No thanks
>>65932533
dude, are you the guy who runs the Hipster Black Metal channel? you have a big crush on HHH don't you
>>65931960
>xasthur, velvet cacoon, skagos
>>65932508
What the fuck is burst-beat? Can't differentiate with blast beat.
>>65932533
define pretentious please.
atm you come as somebody who tried to understand the album but failed. and have resorted to cheap shots to save your "intelligence"
It's an great album
>>65932440
Advaita
>>65932215
>acting autistic
just because you don't understand what he's saying
>>65930582
>>either thoroughly composed, philosophical experimental rock
that's a long name for "bad pretentious darkthrone ripoff"
>>65932570
That guy is almost as cringeworthy as HHH
>>65932577
>define pretentious
Liturgy
>>65932613
He has legit autism, he can barely speak
>>65932614
Pls. They dont even sound anything like Darkthrone
>>65930558
Liturgy
>>65932533
>lol
excellent argument, troglodyte
>>65932636
>>define pretentious
>Liturgy
>>65932636
lol
>>65932314
this is acutally good
this is Liturgy's best release plebs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6G1QAJ6ntk
>>65932575
According to the drummer of Liturgy "I play a blast beat that incorporates the Moeller technique".
it's basically that, it's like a blastbeat that is pretty technical, it changes BPM constantly
>>65931947
i don't think it's necessary to listen to much of a certain genre just to deduce whether a singe album that is in that genre is good or not
>>65932575
burst beats are solar
blast beats are lunar
what is so difficult to understand
>>65932696
it's basically lolicore
>>65932661
they sound like a bad darkthrone ripoff, not like darkthrone
>>65932709
>it changes BPM constantly
that's called being a bad drummer, it's not an actual technique
>>65932696
no, this is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrwql_Dfc4s
>>65932724
what a pleb statement
>>65932440
despite their nihilistic edgy image peste noire's first record and the self titled are pretty transcendental: tempo-changes, major chords, clean chantings
>>65932744
>that is called being a bad drummer
holy shit, what a fucking ignorant, do yourself a favor and look for the drummer playing the burstbeat live
>>65932744
>that's called being a bad drummer, it's not an actual technique
you have absolutely no idea of what a tempo change is dude burst beat is basically a blast beat with accelerandos
>>65932744
>calls Liturgy "bad darkthrone ripoff"
>posts a link to the generic run-of-the-mill brutal death metal band Liturgy
with such an awful taste I suggest to kys
>>65932744
M8 youre a fag.
Both are shit, and a testament to the death of black metal.
>>65932814
>>65932850
>>65932887
>>65932932
>liturgy defense force jumps in as soon as their shitty band gets any kind of disapproval
not my fault your drummer can't blast beat at a regular tempo
>>65932977
Its not dissaproval, its just you being an autist m8
>>65932977
are you aware of the fact that greg fox is one of the most praised drummers atm?
>>65932728
Damn...
>>65933122
I'm aware I'm in a liturgy cocksucking thread yes.
sunbather
>>65932977
>>65933166
You have to be HBM
>>65933222
trips confirm
he's HBM
now we all comment "well meme'd mr. HBD, may the edge be with you" on his last video
>>65932574
Skagos is from Canada, but that Cascadian scene in the American Pacific Northwest is killing it right now.
Okay so I listened to Sunbather for the first time a few weeks ago. I really liked the climactic crescendos and the noisier parts of the record, plus how the screaming was mixed so low so it was sort of treated as just another instrument layered into the texture, not the main focus. Overall I enjoyed the record and I don't understand why you guys get so butthurt about it.
I am currently in the middle of listening to Aesthetica for the first time and I have to say three tracks in I am not enjoying it much. The music sounds like this kid was thinking "I'm so fucking smart for writing this music, this is really groundbreaking shit." Plus his vocals sound like someone who is making fun of the black metal vocal style, just weakly parodying it instead of actually trying to sing/scream well. It's so high and whiny, and his pronunciation is shit. Plus some of the guitar tones sound really thin, way too much on the high end and not nearly enough on the low. And there's just overall muddiness throughout the lower guitar parts. And there are some points, especially at certain "wall of sound" moments where the drums sound canned as FUCK, like they were literally copied from fucking garageband or FL or something.
I'm going to finish the record (on track 4 right now and it's really starting to bore me) but if it continues like it has been, I don't think I'm going to start enjoying it anymore. Sunbather is the clear winner.
Paul Ledney's incidental Bataillean idiot savant exemplification of the abject > HHH's quasi-Hegelian rambling of a total work fit for oh, so post-modern epistomologies
the former strikes to the core of metal ethos in its austerity, the latter bloats in psuedoacademic masturbatory want of transcendence, as far as discussing HHH and his antipode go
>>65935029
pretty much this
>>65935526
I didn't even finish it. Tragic Laurel was such a bad song I had to stop and re-listen to Sunbather to cleanse my palette. I still haven't given it enough listens yet.
>>65930558
i have never seen so much support for liturgy in a thread
this, combined with the low poster count, is going to make me go ahead and call samefagging
i know, i'm anticipating the inevitable
>WOW SOME1 DOESNT LIKE WHAT U LIKE THAT DOESNT MAKE IT SAMEFAG FAGGOT1!!
but i know it's true. go to bed hunter.
>>65932314
This is cool as fuck, I actually like the HEEEEEY stuff
>>65935029
this post sounds like this kid was thinking "I'm so fucking smart for criticizing the production-value and equalization even if i don't know shit about any of those things"
the production on aesthethica is amazing, and especially the drums are absolutely gorgeous. if you disagree you have either shit-headphones or shit in your ears
I think Sunbather is good, but nothing that blows my mind or makes me want to follow the band religiously. I'm a big fan of math rock and math core, so I'd say Aesthethica is great and probably my favorite album from whatever year it came out in. Fuck everything else that Liturgy and HHH have pulled out of their asses.
Hard question honestly, each has their pros
I’d say Aesthethica though
Reminder that TAW is better than either of them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN4BncLvXic
>>65932614
>bad pretentious darkthrone ripoff
you're an idiot
>>65930582
objectively bad taste m80
>>65937173
plebeian
>>65932393
what is a 7-6 sequence mate
>>65930558
pewdiepie literally has the sunbather album cover as his monitor wallpaper
