Holy mother of god...
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Holy mother of god...
>>65770828
Thoughts?
>>65770828
I can't wait to see what he critiques next. 7-11?
AOTY
>>65771656
It's good
>>65770828
2meandering4me
What I love about this album is that FSV seemed to be how everyone is wrapped up in technology and buying the latest products and being the ultimate consumer, where as Human Story 3 seems to be about how that technology is robbing us of our social aspects and becoming extremely introverted in an attempt to express our individualism. Our individuality extends into a much smaller space than we'd expect in this day and age, with marketing schemes and consumer expectations being predicted and preset by corporations. So, it's a point of consumerism that drives for the illusion of individuality when really we're all trapped behind screens between such a huge social disconnect that it affects our growth as a species.
There's a certain line, I can't remember it verbatim, but they essentially talk about giving the illusion of "free choice" through marketing and production.
"I say unto you my weary brothers, the Super Me era is here."
I think Market Collapse may be my favorite song on the album.
>>65771673
I really don't know what he'll do next. It's hard to guess. Skid Row came out of left field, so did Human Story 3. I hope he keeps on developing on this almost sequential idea he has going with FSV and Human Story 3. They both share similar concepts and are very interesting to listen to and think about.
>>65771879
I can get that, I am honestly a little underwhelmed with some moments on this album. Songs like Anthropoceniac.
terrible, absolute shit
ferraro is a master troll
>>65772010
fantastic post, absolute gold
anon is a terrible troll.
"You've hit your peak, AND an algorithm wants your job. Now what do you do?"
>>65771986
>has ferraro trip
>likes disney/pixar ost the album
what the fuck mate
listen to the real ferraro
lo fi work is better
this is just for the plebs, the commercial stuff, the ironic works. you need to open your brain and neural pathways to different avenues in order to get the early work, but its bolder and the real statement in the discography. the rest is superficial and just for show, showing how you lemmings are proving ferraro's point.
>>65771986
I'll have to listen to i t a few more times before I can write much about it, but Market Crash is probably my favorite as well.
I loved Skid Row, I waited 2 weeks to get it on cassette. Listening to NYC, HELL 3AM and then Skid Row was great for me to see the similarities and differences between the two cities and what they represent to Jim.
I think FSV and HS3 are the equivalent of those two "sister" albums, but addressing things much more global.
>>65772179
ok put the trip back on, at least try a bit nigga
>>65772159
>>65772179
yeah yeah you are a real cool dude who listened to the skaters in 2006 or whatever dude i dont care i want to discuss his newest works.
>>65772189
nah brother, just a true ferrarohead
fsv is superb, but if it is statements, commentary, originality, and vision you want, the lo fi works are your answer.
>>65772210
What is there to discuss?Are you retarded or something?I love ferraro but this is album is a literal meme music.
>>65772213
>>65772179
Quit your memeing the lo fi albums are trash.
>>65772248
>the lofi albums are bad
AHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHA
>>65772243
No u
>>65772248
it depends on your point of view
open your mind
take a few pills and fuck around with some men in women's clothing
play simcity on speed
then you will see
memes are now art
>>65772159
Oh, so because I enjoy Human Story 3 that means I don't appreciate his older stuff right? Cause if that's what you're implying you'd be extremely wrong considering Edward Flex is probably my favorite album by him.
I hate this whole idea that you can't like new Ferraro without shitting on his old stuff.
>>65772179
What about his "hi-fi" stuff as you'd want to call it, makes it commercial and "ironic"? Why do people who don't like his new stuff have to insinuate that if you listen to his new stuff you can't possibly appreciate his old stuff? That's a load of crap. Maybe it's you who needs to "open your brain and neural pathways to different avenues in order to get" this and his more recent albums.
As someone who has been listening for years, it pains me to see people polarize his works like this and segregate the fan base between "old and new" like he's some sort of "sell-out". Get the fuck out of here with that nonsense.
>>65772159
>doesn't understand that fsv is supposed to be disney/pixar the album
Open ur neural patheways a bit more dude
>>65772243
What the fuck is "meme" music about this? If you mean meme music in the sense that its a commentary on culture and society and the effects technology and exponential growth are having on it, then sure.
All of Ferraro's albums are great imo. I like the new shit more but that's my personal view.
>>65772179
>>65772273
>>65772313
>dude drugs lmao
stop
>>65772243
>what is there to discuss
I don't know, this mother fucker has over 60+ albums. We used to have Ferraro generals on the daily with hundreds of posts, even an entire archive with all of his work uploaded to mega.
I'll see if I can dig up the pastebin but I doubt it's existent anymore. We started doing that in like 2012 maybe? Someone even made a flow chart for new comers to Ferraro
I've only heard Condo Pets, FSV, Night Dolls, and this. What else is essential?
>>65772179
>>65772273
If you need drugs for it to sound good it probably isn't good.
>>65772397
is this a cringe thread because holy shit you're making me cringe as hard as this album did
>>65772439
cringe your way out of here then faggot.
>>65772439
is this a cringe thread because holy shit you're making me cringe as hard as possible
i liked marble surf, where do i go next with his lo fi work?
>>65772456
don't get mad buddy, put on another memewave album by james lord of the memes ferraro and chill
>>65772265
I asked you what there is to discuss you said nothing...The theme in this album is OVERDONE.
>>65772282
>Oh, so because I enjoy Human Story 3 that means I don't appreciate his older stuff right?
Never said that but its quite strange.
>Edward Flex is probably my favorite album by him.
Kek.Youre quite clueless considering there are TWO(2) ed flex albums.
>>65772313
>its supposed to be shit
>>65772342
it sounds like a meme music literally.all these quirky sounds etc.
>>65772397
but i thought that this thread is about hs3?if its ferraro general its nice but from the op it seems to be about hs3.
>>65772426
You don't need drugs for his music to sound good. Honestly, some of his stuff is pretty hypnotic on its own. Hence the reason he's often called hypnagogic pop.
If you liked Night Dolls try On Air, Cruisin' The Night Biker Strip, and Last American Hero. If you liked Condo Pets and FSV, you may like HS3. It's more orchestral in instrumentation but very similar in arrangement.
Found the pastebin, not sure if any of these links work but here's a huge portion of his albums. I am half tempted to upload a bunch of this shit if the links are borked.
http://pastebin.com/Ect7SNvz
>>65770828
trash...
>>65772602
you listen to drake off yourself
>>65772489
I'm not mad, you're just an autistic teen with social anxiety. It's cool bro. I know seeing others have discussion makes you cringe. You couldn't possibly know what it's like to communicate efficiently.
>>65772533
You're correct. Edward Flex Presents Do You Believe in Hawaii is the one I was referring to. It's generally called Edward Flex as Maui Blackout/Liquid Bikini is fairly rare. But sure. I'm "clueless".
And having quirky sounds makes music meme music now? And if it's a thread about Human Story 3, by extension wouldn't James Ferraro discussion be welcomed as well considering you know...he made it? You're being awfully patronizing for no reason. Are you insecure or something?
>>65772469
Maybe something like Clear or Discover. Possibly Pixarni.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cecVLsBaZLQ
>>65771986
have you read the Marcel's Music Journal review of HS3
>>65772762
No, and I don't care what Marcel has to say. Why would I?
Are there any other artists that make weird electronic / experimental stuff with as varied a discography as Ferarro? I'm looking for more weird shit. I really love Night Dolls.
>>65772543
https://mega.nz/#F!C8ITkbyT!Oncn1AFkDWXbyn67idYIbQ
I think this has mostly the same content, but here.
>>65772647
>But sure. I'm "clueless".
Of course considering I already proved you wrong and having ed flex as your favorite considering how many better albums there are ...kek
>And having quirky sounds makes music meme music now?
Because thats what the album is about.Its just a "commentary" and the music is not worth anything other than for the comedic effect.If you dont get that you're quite retarded.
>Are you insecure or something?
No I just want to say my opinion.
>>65772827
I don't really know of anyone that's as prolific or varied as James Ferraro, but for some reason he is often compared to Dean Blunt and Oneohtrix Point Never.
OPN himself is pretty innovative and has progressed through different phases of experimentation himself. It's interesting to see his style change from his beginnings on albums like Rifts and Returnal to something like Garden of Delete.
But yeah, as far as someone like Ferraro? I personally can't name anyone specifically. Andrew Poppy though I'm sure is a huge influence on him, or so it sounds. The Object is a Hungry Wolf is very reminiscent of Human Story 3 and FSV in my opinion. Or, rather, vice versa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkcItO7n1qE
>>65772812
I like you.
Finally I can say that about a trip.
>>65772876
lol okay kid.
>>65772953
>lol okay kid.
>kid
>calls other people kids when he cant argue to save his life
AHAHAHAHHAAHHAAHHAH
>>65772925
I'm sure that will change pretty quickly, but thanks. I only post with this trip in Ferraro threads because I really want to encourage discussion about him. He is criminally underrated and under discussed, honestly. I want /jfg/s back man. We used to have some really good discussions in those threads.
>>65772812
because it was an interesting read and i was just curious since you were a fan of the album
i was just asking a simple question, geez, sorry.
>>65772996
I am a fan of the album. Sorry for being harsh about it, I just really hate the hivemind around here that comes with reading reviews and watching Fagtano. Out of curiosity I peeked at it. Didn't really explain anything I didn't already know. It was well written I guess. He didn't necessarily go in detail about why he gave it the score he did. But, not like that matters anyway. HS3 is certainly not my favorite album by him, but its an interesting one.
>>65772918
I like OPN and Dean Blunt is okay. I think the comparisons are there because both he and Blunt did a bunch of hypnagogic pop, and he and OPN sort of defined vaporwave.
That Poppy stuff was kind of neat, but I don't specifically like the FSV sound. It is pretty similar though.
>>65772977
your argument is retarded though.
>ed flex is his favorite so he must be stupid
>music isn't worth anything because its quirky and i'm too stupid to realize the concepts within the music itself
>>65773155
If you really love Night Dolls have you tried Last American Hero? Cruisin' the Night Biker Strip? On Air?
>>65773155
I guess I can see what you mean with the comparisons. But I'm with you man, I really wish I knew of more artists similar to James Ferraro. He's one of the most prolific and versatile song writers/producers/musicians I've come across.
>>65772533
>>its supposed to be shit
>shit
dude didnt say that at all
>>65772827
Ferraro is unique senpai
listening to the album now, as usual he has this really unique style that made me love fsv
>>65773182
>Last American Hero? Cruisin' the Night Biker Strip? On Air?
I've really just started getting seriously into Ferraro. I've heard Last American Hero, I'm currently listening to On Air, and Night Biker Strip is on my to-do list.
This album isn't all that dissimilar to the new age lo-fi stuff of his that I've heard, like Heaven's Gate. It does have more of a "pop" appeal, if you could even call it that.
I think my favorite aspect of Ferraro's music is how disconnected from humanity it feels. It doesn't sound sincere or ironic, no fear or anxiety for the boring dystopic reality it speaks of, just a visitor passing through our world writing down what he sees.
>>65773047
>>65773161
do you have reading disability.I said that the concept is overdone and the music is just there without any reason it doesn't compliment the concept.
>>65773217
what then
I think what's amazing is how his song titles say so much with one or two words
>marketphagia
>gps & cognition
>Neotenous Smart Car
Which one of you faggots keep spamming >>65773142? This isn't funny, please stop
Anyone got a link?
>>65773370
marcel
>>65773384
https://jjamesferraro.bandcamp.com/album/human-story-3
>>65773384
Check archive, I posted a link in a share thread. On mobile right now so not gonna try to link.
>>65773298
but thats not what you said, at all. the only thing you implied was the the music is pointless. and you're wrong about that.
that album is just pretentious shit.
>>65773539
t. low iq peasant
it's not ferraro's fault nature was a bitch to you
>>65773539
its pretty good actually fuck you
>>65773539
yea well you're pretentious shit
>>65773453
Do you have reading disability?
>and you're wrong about that.
explain why then FAGGOT.if youre going to talk like that fuck off already.
>>65773578
>he thinks the album is hard to get and even requires high iq
damn...
>>65773539
strongly agree
>>65773539
I love it when people call music pretentious. Cause it actually makes zero sense.
>>65773539
That's what I thought the first time I listened to Far Side Virtual. If you're willing to give Ferraro another try consider listening to Night Dolls With Hairspray or Sushi. They're both pretty fun and it'll give you some context for his other albums.
>>65773539
The thing about art is that it's completely subjective how you interpret it.
If you think it's pretentious then that is a short coming on your part and no one else.
Also, nice bait.
>>65773606
I always laugh at the irony whenever somebody calls a piece of art pretentious
>>65773606
for example, if someone plays a standard chord progression, scale, etc. and says hey look at this song I just wrote.
>>65773601
Here, have a picture of James with an orange on his head.
>>65773664
That's not pretentious though. That's just someone writing a pretty basic chord progression. To call it a song wouldn't be incorrect, nor is it "pretentious".
>>65773700
>basic chord progression.
>writing
wew
>>65773601
how about you explain why the music only provides comedic effect? let me guess, because it's laughably bad?
>>65773672
>cant even explain why
had no idea that its a YLYL thread.
>>65773614
thanks i'll try that.
>>65773713
OH NO STOP THE PRESSES THERE ARE 17 PEOPLE IN A THREAD TALKING AND THE THREAD HAS 79 REPLIES HOLY SHIT.
>>65773713
samefagging is an artform kid, I don't think you understand
>>65773737
You're petty as fuck bro.
>>65773723
Yes, you can write a basic chord progression. It's all in the rhythm you're playing, the lead melody you use, the arrangement of those chords and the way they progress, which intervals you're using, etc. etc. But yeah, hurrdurr dis m00zok so pre10chus
>>65773803
>arrangement
no its still a "traditional arrangement"
true its just a guess but my hunch is that HS3 is the same concept but at the other end of the spectrum. Its overly convoluted to hide the fact its really just arbitrary combinations of arpeggios etc.
>>65773803
>petty
oh its actually a cringe thread.i feel bad for you.
tfw this album nearly gave me a panic attack because I started thinking too much about how technology is advancing faster than humans can adapt on a social, emotional, and political level and as a result the singularity is less likely to advance us as a species and more likely to usher in a horrific new era of perpetual struggle
>>65773893
We're speaking in hypotheticals here. A traditional arrangement can be used in a song, and be called a song. So I don't really see what your point is here. On paper the chords could be G C D E or something but we really couldn't know exactly how it is played until it is notated. Anyway, this doesn't really exhibit the idea of pretentiousness well, at all.
I guess I can kinda see what you mean about Human Story 3 but I don't think it's just arbitrary combinations of arpeggios entirely. I'm still kind of analyzing the album so I can't necessarily explain in detail what I find to be going on, but whatever it is, I like it. I get this really high class, almost royal kind of feel from the instrumentation and it's all juxtaposed by these ominous lines of text-to-speech droning on about essentially a technological takeover through marketing schemes. It has this very financial district sound to it. The stocatto and pizzicato strings on a lot of these tracks mixed with the anxious arrangements, almost bouncing around as if they can't sit still, seem to remind me of meandering around a busy city bumping into people who pass by but not really connecting with them in anyway, just carrying on with life, yet every inanimate object, flashing light, gleaming billboard is drawing for your attention.
There are uplifting moments in these songs backed by ominous undertones that something dark looms over head. And honestly, a lot of the percussion and arrangements on this album remind me of clocks ticking, it's very fleeting in a sense.
I don't know man, it's interesting as hell but I can't really describe it musically yet. It evokes a very specific feeling in me though, and its one of happy unfettering anxiety. If that makes any sense.
>>65773921
Oh no! He called this a cringe thread! Pack up boys, time to go home. :^(
too many tripfags in this thread
>>65774034
>meandering
then we are both strongly in agreement
and just apparently why I hate it is why you like it
>>65774047
but you still can disprove my points.are you autistic because they are usually have no self awareness just like you.
from little i heard it was far side virtual part 2
which means it was bad.
>>65774094
well actually it's human story 3
>>65774100
ahahahaahahaah very witty
>>65774087
Here's your (You)
>>65773997
With the human invention of technology, something that took such immense knowledge and understanding, comes the dumbing down of an entire species due to how stupidly simple things have become to achieve through tapping a screen and receiving instant gratification.
>>65774079
It is a lot of back and forth, a lot of disjointedness, which is a bit of a turn off for me at times, but it fits with the concept. I feel it's supposed to be a representation of the constant bombardment of being plugged in to the internet and technological devices. Something is always reaching out for our attention, or we are always reaching out for attention through means of the internet/cell phones/lap tops/TV etc. It also plays on the idea of "hyper individualism" with the more upbeat melodies and chord structures devolving into chaotic percussive dissonance at times. I kind of imagine someone who is extremely narcissistic constantly posting their pictures on Instagram or something, but ignoring their surroundings or possibly even the people in their lives. Feels like there's an inner struggle going on with this album, which is why I feel it IS so back and forth and meandering.
>>65774166
>It is a lot of back and forth, a lot of disjointedness, which is a bit of a turn off for me at times, but it fits with the concept.
to me it makes it disingenuous. If he was obviously not using a computer at all then I would be far more lenient.
>>65774094
I would have liked it more if it used less conventional instrumentation. Instead he uses conventional instrumentation in an unconventional manner this time around.
>>65774166
it's not even so much that, I just feel like if we were to encounter some sort of insane technological advancement as we are now there's no fucking way we'd use it for the good of all mankind; we'd try to profit off of it, use it to separate and stigmatize ourselves, crush anyone lower than us, basically make our ivory tower as tall and dangerous as possible. if you've ever seen 2001 you'll know what I'm talking about, picture the part where the apes learn to use tools.
>>65774191
so you have an analog bias
>>65774224
>>65774191
Eh, it doesn't make it any less genuine to me. The concept he's putting forth is a very legitimate concern. I've never really listened to Ferraro on a count of his musicianship, or rather, ability to play an instrument.
But as you noted, he did make this music on a computer which in a way ties in to the themes prevalent throughout the album. What if music one day is merely made by a computer rather than musicians and it's yet another algorithm that wants your job? Not sure he intended for that to be part of the concept, but it's an interesting thought. I guess we just both see the album in different light. I think for what he was going for, he executed it all pretty well. Althought I wish at times I hadn't had the entire aesthetic to go off of to see if I'd arrive at the same conclusion after listening for my first time.
>>65774224
Can 19 people please have a conversation in peace? No one here is pretending they're someone else. Please go.
>>65774237
That totally makes sense. But what would stop artificial intelligence from having those exact thoughts about us? Thus we arrive at the singularity.
>>65774241
compositionally yes
>>65774284
>But what would stop artificial intelligence from having those exact thoughts about us?
exactly, I'm honestly convinced that we're living in an era where we might actually see humanity become obsolete on an evolutionary scale. if superintelligent AI ends up happening, I don't think they'll go all terminator on us; they won't have to. they'll just be better than us, the same way humans are better than our evolutionary ancestors.
>>65774288
Eh I guess I can understand not liking it because of that. Different strokes for different folks. I never go into a Ferraro album looking for technicality or musical prowess though. And by musical prowess I mean supreme handling of instruments. Most of his ideas are pretty simplistic, to an extent, but the way he develops them and the thoughts that are behind them are what are interesting to me. I feel he is more rhythmically inclined in a musical sense than anything. The offbeat polyrythmic percussion in Escalade from NYC Hell 3 AM has always been a very simplistic, subtle, yet very effective attribute which he executes pretty well in a lot of his music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_CdCAkSzds
Is it astonishing? Nah. Is it the most amazing innovative thing anyone has ever done? Nah. But it sounds nice, it grooves, and fuck if it isn't a great song to listen to at 3 AM driving through the city. Which is exactly what he was going for I'm sure. And that's what I love about Ferraro, he's great at capturing a scene, a mood, a theme.
>>65774348
>mfw
so everyone's gonna ignore that this is literally a ripoff of r+7?
>>65774418
>i only listened to Ten Songs for Humanity
I'll admit, Ten Songs for Humanity sounds a lot like something from R+7, however, the rest of the album...does not. At all. The only reason it sounds ike R+7 is probably because the choir sounds he's using are most likely from Omnisphere which OPN used on R+7 a fuck ton.
>>65774392
>Eh I guess I can understand not liking it because of that.
I dunno but its definitely making me knock off points. This is the only thing I've heard this year that if it was composed with computer assistance I wouldnt care.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvRnPtbHC0o
what the fuck is happening in this thread?
Ferraro Official Ask Me Anything?
or just a anon tripfag?
>>65774348
it's generally believed that humans will merge with computers (we are already in a very basic method, as people use their smartphones for direction, asking questions, socialization, memory keeping, etc) during the singularity age.
this may happen before or after an AGI is created (or creates itself). as for the question of malevolent artificial super intelligence, there are steps being taken to prevent this, search "Friendly AI." however, if a hypothesized "intelligence explosion" does occur, we will have no choice in the matter. i pray we do not have a Roko's Basilisk situation that occurs/is occurring.
>>65774531
People always accuse him of being James. Its just his fro, yo.
Is it good?
>>65774889
no, really not.
Computer music.
>>65776245
muh gitah is troo music damn skrillex crap lol
what are you fucking 50
>>65776288
Cruise Control Computer music
>>65776305
wait dont bother posting again i got it:
*sharting sound effect*
>>65776368
well I only heard it once but it just seemed convoluted not complex
>>65774418
ferraro kicks opn's ass
the ironic music nerds at something awful can't decide what to make of this and are obsessing over 'music journalism', bless you jim
>>65778344
link?
there's NOTHING ironic about james ferraro stop using that word
>>65772179
listened to Nightdolls For Hairspray and it sounded like a shittier version of Ariel Pink. Not bad, but his latest stuff is way more interesting
>>65779071
*Nightdolls With Hairspray
>>65778369
https://jjamesferraro.bandcamp.com/album/human-story-3
haha what the fuck is this the sim city sound track
Is that an Amazon Prime box?
>>65780480
yes
Marble Surf is the only good thing he's done
>>65780500
Marble Surf is pretty good but it isn't the best thing he's done at all. I do like his use of 90's pop samples. Distorting their mix until they're unrecognizable is pretty cool. I always liked Rerex more for the ambient pop style though.
>130 replies
>29 unique posters
>>65780617
it's called actual discussion m80
What I want to know is where Wenquan by Bodyguard is? He said in 2014 he had a new Bodyguard album coming and all we got was this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvSLIECS_N0
>>65780617
t. A fucking idiot.
posting in a dead thread
>>65772179
>ironic
the album ain't ironic m8. You need to drop that shitty attitude and actually think critically for once in your pathetic life.
so glad I copped the cassette
>>65770828
this is forgetable Google translator "music"
